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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
August 25 2009 01:52 GMT
#201
COME TO AUSTRALIA JAEDONG
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
August 25 2009 01:55 GMT
#202
woaah

JD in computing field!?

i already see him prograMMing (notice the 2 m's) Starcraft 3.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7298 Posts
August 25 2009 02:04 GMT
#203
where are you guys living?

gl getting 100k paying jobs as engineers 5 years out of college here in michigan.

Youd have to work at a nice firm or something and move up relatively quickly from what I can tell.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
August 25 2009 02:19 GMT
#204
Man this is really in stark contrast to Jaedong's interview. I mean in his interview JD really came off like he strongly desires to get back in the OZ house, and just out of the blue his dad says stuff like this ... just leads me to think there's either a lot of disagreement between JD and his parents or they want to try to scare OZ into giving up more money.
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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
August 25 2009 04:02 GMT
#205
I'd be sad to see him go, especially if he makes the decision purely because of his parents wishes. I can understand them wanting to protect their son, but his mother's demand for such a massive salary just strikes me as mercenary and greedy. There are a lot of things JD has had to give up in relation to a 'normal life' to be a progamer, but the advantages speak for themselves. I think transfering to a new team where the burden is lessened or a serious re-thinking of the Hwaseung OZ approach to utilising Jaedong and the rest of the line up is needed.

A retirement at this early stage would feel like squandering talent. Unless he chooses to play the remaining PL season and then either complete his mandatory military service before SC2 is too established or just takes time off to practice for the future before returning.

I just hope all this ends well for Jaedong - he's the one who will be living this life after all, not his parents or his current team.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
gaggar
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada118 Posts
August 25 2009 04:11 GMT
#206
JD's parents have JD's best interest in mind. Let there be no doubt about that.


Progamer isn't a real occupation which allows you to actually build your life around it. It sucks the life out of players and spit them out when they're spent. JD's parents have a foresight into this harsh truth and they're acting in the best interest of JD.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-25 04:13:20
August 25 2009 04:13 GMT
#207
You can build your life around it if you're REALLY GOOD. Not for most B-teamers obviously.
Jaedong
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
August 25 2009 04:19 GMT
#208
On August 25 2009 13:02 NeverGG wrote:
I'd be sad to see him go, especially if he makes the decision purely because of his parents wishes. I can understand them wanting to protect their son, but his mother's demand for such a massive salary just strikes me as mercenary and greedy. There are a lot of things JD has had to give up in relation to a 'normal life' to be a progamer, but the advantages speak for themselves. I think transfering to a new team where the burden is lessened or a serious re-thinking of the Hwaseung OZ approach to utilising Jaedong and the rest of the line up is needed.

A retirement at this early stage would feel like squandering talent. Unless he chooses to play the remaining PL season and then either complete his mandatory military service before SC2 is too established or just takes time off to practice for the future before returning.

I just hope all this ends well for Jaedong - he's the one who will be living this life after all, not his parents or his current team.

imo 180m won is the least OZ can do for the Golden mouse winner. I mean look at Calm... 130 won? for what? lots of PL wins?
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-25 04:37:35
August 25 2009 04:30 GMT
#209
I thought things were being released the 25th??

edit:nvm, its the 26th
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 25 2009 04:34 GMT
#210
rofl
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AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
August 25 2009 04:36 GMT
#211
On August 25 2009 13:19 Sharp-eYe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2009 13:02 NeverGG wrote:
I'd be sad to see him go, especially if he makes the decision purely because of his parents wishes. I can understand them wanting to protect their son, but his mother's demand for such a massive salary just strikes me as mercenary and greedy. There are a lot of things JD has had to give up in relation to a 'normal life' to be a progamer, but the advantages speak for themselves. I think transfering to a new team where the burden is lessened or a serious re-thinking of the Hwaseung OZ approach to utilising Jaedong and the rest of the line up is needed.

A retirement at this early stage would feel like squandering talent. Unless he chooses to play the remaining PL season and then either complete his mandatory military service before SC2 is too established or just takes time off to practice for the future before returning.

I just hope all this ends well for Jaedong - he's the one who will be living this life after all, not his parents or his current team.

imo 180m won is the least OZ can do for the Golden mouse winner. I mean look at Calm... 130 won? for what? lots of PL wins?


Well PL wins is what recruiting teams really care about...
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Simple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
August 25 2009 04:37 GMT
#212
jd is so young though. he COULD retire early and remain known for his amazing play as a young pro, or he could continue playing where he will inevitably slump like all the greats
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
August 25 2009 04:52 GMT
#213
On August 25 2009 11:04 Sadist wrote:
where are you guys living?

gl getting 100k paying jobs as engineers 5 years out of college here in michigan.

Youd have to work at a nice firm or something and move up relatively quickly from what I can tell.

Michigan is worse than many other places, because of foolish economic policies.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
August 25 2009 05:02 GMT
#214
I'm not sure where some of you are getting the idea that you can make $100k right out of college with a comp.sci degree. I'm a Computer Science major (2 years in, 2 more to go), and all indications are that you're lucky to get a $65k starting salary these days.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
August 25 2009 05:06 GMT
#215
On August 25 2009 13:36 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2009 13:19 Sharp-eYe wrote:
On August 25 2009 13:02 NeverGG wrote:
I'd be sad to see him go, especially if he makes the decision purely because of his parents wishes. I can understand them wanting to protect their son, but his mother's demand for such a massive salary just strikes me as mercenary and greedy. There are a lot of things JD has had to give up in relation to a 'normal life' to be a progamer, but the advantages speak for themselves. I think transfering to a new team where the burden is lessened or a serious re-thinking of the Hwaseung OZ approach to utilising Jaedong and the rest of the line up is needed.

A retirement at this early stage would feel like squandering talent. Unless he chooses to play the remaining PL season and then either complete his mandatory military service before SC2 is too established or just takes time off to practice for the future before returning.

I just hope all this ends well for Jaedong - he's the one who will be living this life after all, not his parents or his current team.

imo 180m won is the least OZ can do for the Golden mouse winner. I mean look at Calm... 130 won? for what? lots of PL wins?


Well PL wins is what recruiting teams really care about...

Lol, having a Jaedong in your team is like having 3 Calm at the same time, you can't deny that. Not to mention his success in individual leagues. If Calm could get 130m, 180m for Jaedong is just ridiculous.
I'm sure some teams like STX could easily pay Jaedong at least twice what Calm is paid. Fcking stupid FA rules!
I hope Jaedong retires just to get out of Oz then get the pro license again and join another better team.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 25 2009 06:01 GMT
#216


I hope JD keeps playing, but I guess he should do what's best for him...
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
August 25 2009 06:04 GMT
#217
Hwaseung needs to stop being cheap and if not JD needs to come study in the real OZ
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blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-25 06:58:23
August 25 2009 06:52 GMT
#218
i'm beginning to conclude that:

oz (just the corporation and managers and possibly even coach cho) and kespa are huge ass douchebags who don't give a shit about their players and only want $$$

JD is so homo for lomo (young, naive, passionate, w/e) that he doesn't care about being ripped off

JD's parents are getting frustrated at the two above points and are becoming desperate as they know they are slowly losing with no offers having been made thus far


seriously, 200m (salary plus bonuses) for JD when calm gets 130m (i dont even know if this includes bonuses) isn't simply unfair, it's cruel for such a devoted and successful player

also, i'm pretty sure JD ain't going to retire and that the university thing is a bluff
JD parent's are prbly going to be forced to take Oz's offer like someone said

what they can do however, is to help contribute to the movement to remove kespa and all this abusive shit and replace it with something reasonable
ppl are certainly getting more pissed off as protests are showing up at matches now lol
it's time for a fucking progamer's rights movement if you ask me.
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 25 2009 07:59 GMT
#219
orrrr jaedong could just practice less haha. like not practice beyond the normal hours required, drop from top 3 players to top 15 players or something, and still perform as the best player on his team although Oz will drop in the rankings.

I'd just be like "so yeah, I carried us this far, still want to help, but it's been too much so far..."
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
August 25 2009 08:04 GMT
#220
2~3 hours till deadline
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