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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 24 2009 09:41 GMT
#81
I can't believe both his parents thought he wouldn't win, I mean have some faith in your own son. He didn't bring flowers because he thought he wouldn't win? Bring some anyway just incase he does (and he did!).

I can see where they are coming from when they say his schedule allows him to do almost nothing else. No parent ever wants to see their child go through such hardships when they don't need to. But it made JD who he is. I hardly think he will quit, and my heart will break if he decides to retire. But dammit JD if you retire you better have picked a uni in Melbourne, or at least in Australia LOL.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
hk2717
Profile Joined July 2008
123 Posts
August 24 2009 09:41 GMT
#82
On August 24 2009 18:38 Foucault wrote:
Yeah leave SC, I never cared for JD anywho. If no other team wants him he might as well leave.


His quit will hurt the whole e-sport industry. No matter you care for him or not.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 24 2009 10:09 GMT
#83
On August 24 2009 18:41 hk2717 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 18:38 Foucault wrote:
Yeah leave SC, I never cared for JD anywho. If no other team wants him he might as well leave.


His quit will hurt the whole e-sport industry. No matter you care for him or not.

Besides...not being able to afford him is much different than not wanting him. Every team wants him. Not many are in a position to actually get him.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
August 24 2009 10:10 GMT
#84
On August 24 2009 15:56 Red_Storm wrote:
Jaedong: Coming to a university near you.


HhahAHAHAH can you imagine he comes to berkeley and raping all our LANs?
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
August 24 2009 10:15 GMT
#85
On August 24 2009 17:02 nayumi wrote:
There is no way Jaedong is gonna retire lol This is solely a negotiation tactic.
1. Jaedong's parents wanted a better contract. Oz refused.
2. Jaedong's parents declared his son an FA.
3. Deadline is approaching but no team has made any offer.
4. Oz smirks. Jaedong's dad doesn't like it so he plays hardball, hence a lose-lose situation (more like a lose-lose-lose-lose seeing how it affects jaedong, his parents, Oz and us).

If none of the teams makes any better offer, I believe Jaedong's parents will have to announce stuffs like "After blah blah blah ... Jaedong has been trying to convince us blah blah blah ... so we decided to let the boy do what he desires ... blah blah blah".


i'll hold on to this comment. I think what you're saying might come true
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
August 24 2009 10:37 GMT
#86
Well, retiring after winning the golden mouse is sure 1 hell of a way to end his career.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 24 2009 10:59 GMT
#87
Seriously, Jaedong should get himself a professional manager for that kind of suff, not his parents. Too little experience (ok dunno what his parents' jobs are), too biased.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-24 11:09:41
August 24 2009 11:08 GMT
#88
I agree with darktreb's post, but one sentence is extremely important imo
On August 24 2009 17:57 darktreb wrote:
If JD actually quits (again I find this to be highly unlikely but still), this is a HUGE blow to the legitimacy of progaming as a career.


On August 24 2009 19:59 spinesheath wrote:
Seriously, Jaedong should get himself a professional manager for that kind of suff, not his parents. Too little experience (ok dunno what his parents' jobs are), too biased.

Kespa made a rule so that the players are not allowed to employ agents.
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
August 24 2009 11:13 GMT
#89
On August 24 2009 19:15 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 17:02 nayumi wrote:
There is no way Jaedong is gonna retire lol This is solely a negotiation tactic.
1. Jaedong's parents wanted a better contract. Oz refused.
2. Jaedong's parents declared his son an FA.
3. Deadline is approaching but no team has made any offer.
4. Oz smirks. Jaedong's dad doesn't like it so he plays hardball, hence a lose-lose situation (more like a lose-lose-lose-lose seeing how it affects jaedong, his parents, Oz and us).

If none of the teams makes any better offer, I believe Jaedong's parents will have to announce stuffs like "After blah blah blah ... Jaedong has been trying to convince us blah blah blah ... so we decided to let the boy do what he desires ... blah blah blah".


i'll hold on to this comment. I think what you're saying might come true

This. It's a very asian way of going about things, and in the end it works out - everyone gets to save face, people get more sympathy for progamer rights, and Jaedong gets to stay with Oz.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
August 24 2009 11:24 GMT
#90
Personally, I think its quite selfish for all the fans and people to start bashing Jaedong if he decides to retire. I mean being a progamer specially on Oz, the amount of workload and pressure you have to go through is crazy! JD sure can handle it today, but look it it more into the future, a couple of years and the effect of this spartan training will show and it wont be good. Thus, I think that if Jaedong decides to retire then that would be the best for his body/mind , I know he still wants to play but his future is really not going to be that healthy if he stays the same way. His parents probably dont agree with him on being a progamer as you saw from his fathers response specially, they are more old school. So JD, even if you retire, I still think you are the best ever and it will be a good choice to go through as many progamers dont get much education if because of the insane time allocation.
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
August 24 2009 11:24 GMT
#91
nooooo JD can't go now he needs a diamond mouse!
#1 arb fan -- Raelcun is Nuclear backwards. Rekrul is Lurker backwards. Grobyc is Cyborg backwards. Eniram is Marine backwards.
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
August 24 2009 11:24 GMT
#92
Even if this is just a bunch of talk, it's an incredibly insulting statement. It's insulting to Jaedong, as it assumes that he is not able to make decisions for himself. It's also insulting to every progamer and even the fans out there, all who see progaming as something that is actually important and meaningful.

It's very painful to read this sort of thing - even though we know it's a bluff - for those of us who are not in Korea especially. We know progaming in Korea is far ahead of the rest of the world, and just the fact that something like this would be said feels like a setback to our efforts in our respective countries.
Oh, my eSports
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
August 24 2009 11:27 GMT
#93
On August 24 2009 18:41 hk2717 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 18:38 Foucault wrote:
Yeah leave SC, I never cared for JD anywho. If no other team wants him he might as well leave.


His quit will hurt the whole e-sport industry. No matter you care for him or not.


If he quits not a single thing will change, the fans will miss him, that is all.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-24 11:31:20
August 24 2009 11:30 GMT
#94
Jaedong leaving pro gaming isn't a bad thing.

Pro gaming itself is pretty hellish, the koreans spend WAY too much time practicing a week.

It will be better for his future if he leaves and gets an education.
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
August 24 2009 11:41 GMT
#95
Hey how bout everyone in TL pool in the money and buy jaedong for a month and we win the next OSL/GOM and be famous?

JK

But seriously, i think they are hinting that he should be payed more while Oz quite refuse to.. Oz still stand a chance to compete with other teams even without Jaedong, but they wont get anywhere far up on the list..
대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
August 24 2009 11:50 GMT
#96
On August 24 2009 15:56 Red_Storm wrote:
Jaedong: Coming to a university near you.


that is a seriously scary thought.
faseman
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia215 Posts
August 24 2009 11:55 GMT
#97
He should definitely be payed more for what he does. Does anyone work as hard as him in pro-gaming? From what little I know, I doubt it. In fact all pro-gamers should be payed more, or at least work less. It's pretty sad to hear them work for 18 hours a day sometimes.

If he did go into retirement, it might bring changes to the SC scene. Could mean better conditions for everyone!
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
August 24 2009 11:57 GMT
#98
On August 24 2009 20:55 faseman wrote:
He should definitely be payed more for what he does. Does anyone work as hard as him in pro-gaming? From what little I know, I doubt it. In fact all pro-gamers should be payed more, or at least work less. It's pretty sad to hear them work for 18 hours a day sometimes.

If he did go into retirement, it might bring changes to the SC scene. Could mean better conditions for everyone!


Boxer and Yellow play the same amount, at least Boxer did, and I've heard Yellow does it right now
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-24 12:03:06
August 24 2009 12:00 GMT
#99
On August 24 2009 18:40 Polis wrote:
He can study in late 20s if he choose so. Leaving his carrier now based on wishful thinking that he find good job that he will enjoy is irrational becouse he does not loose that possibility later in life if he stay in progaming.

There's a lot more to growing up than just studying, and going to college when you're 30 does not offer the same experience.

I'm with Day[9] and others who are alright with it. I think most of the people in this thread are being a lot more selfish than his parents.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
August 24 2009 12:03 GMT
#100
correct me if im wrong, but it sounds like the "free" agency has jaedong trapped to his contract because no team is willing to buy out his contract, despite the fact that he has completed it, so jaedong and his parents are trying to play hard ball to get a better contract deal done.
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