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Nylan
United States795 Posts
In all seriousness though, this wouldn't be a bad move. Get a degree, get some room to breathe...*maybe* come back for SC2 or if not then leave behind a powerful legacy. He's got to be looking towards the future here. I can guarentee more than half of his life will be entirely based on what he's doing after he's done pro gaming. I just hope he and his parents can reconcile without pain or conflict. | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On August 24 2009 15:54 Day[9] wrote: good for the parents!! as far as i'm concerned, much of the progaming scene is one giant human rights violation. players and parents NEED to start pushing for better playing conditions and players' rights! I've had the same reaction many times. Some of these players are in high school, working 15h days. On top of it all, the rules are rigged so teams don't have to pay top dollar for them. The offer Oz is trying to get away with for the best player in the world is just pathetic. On August 24 2009 21:32 Shikyo wrote: He could just go to college after he actually retires(later). He won't ever be making this much money working a normal job. The sad thing is, many "regular" jobs, if you have a college degree, would pay him $100k/year if he worked 14h/day. In the US anyway. Heck, 14h is almost enough to work 2 jobs. Gaming is not that great of a path financially: he is foregoing future income thanks to a delayed/no university degree and no workplace experience, etc. Obviously, he LIKES starcraft, but this is a different matter. | ||
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Sharp-eYe
Canada642 Posts
However, I believe the blame should first of all go to KeSPA for making such moronic rules. Second to who ever deals with player's salaries. Hwaseung sells brand name clothes, and big clothing companies always have tons of cash. All this is rather disheartening. | ||
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food
United States1951 Posts
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zeppelin
United States565 Posts
On August 24 2009 23:42 Sharp-eYe wrote: I can understand his parent's concern about the money. I believe JD should be payed atleast 200k USD. 140m is a joke, considering how much Calm is gonna make now. But e-sports without Jaedong is gonna be pretty hard to get over for many. He is imo undisputably the best player of all time. Now that I think of it, those media reports did make his parents look like evil people D: However, I believe the blame should first of all go to KeSPA for making such moronic rules. Second to who ever deals with player's salaries. Hwaseung sells brand name clothes, and big clothing companies always have tons of cash. All this is rather disheartening. Pro gamers play the bulk of their games in a shopping mall, the only money sponsors get out of having pro-gaming teams is advertising cachet, and that caps out after so long. It's not like Jaedong is selling tickets and luxury boxes and apparel like normal athletes, so there's probably a pretty hard limit on the amount of money that sponsors are willing to spend on a team. | ||
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Nylan
United States795 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13921 Posts
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ForTheSwarm
United States556 Posts
On August 24 2009 15:52 Waxangel wrote: "I didn't expect a victory today, I was actually just hoping that he win even one game..." WTF JD's dad?!?!?! Your son is arguably the best player in the world right now, and you thoght he would only win one game?!?!?! Gtfo | ||
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alt.tday
United States180 Posts
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alt.tday
United States180 Posts
On August 25 2009 00:06 For_The_Swarm wrote: WTF JD's dad?!?!?! Your son is arguably the best player in the world right now, and you thoght he would only win one game?!?!?! Gtfo dude its cuz its osl. its between 2 of teh best players. JD has been sucking in ZVZ lately, and he said in the pre interview that he didnt have time to practice that much. Makes sense. | ||
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
i do think jd should come to the us and study computer science but he's at his peak. he should be playing a bit more. retirement is silly. | ||
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
On August 24 2009 15:59 SnowFantasy wrote: wow.. not really sure what to say... what ever is best for JD i guess.  I hope he doesn't retire yet. But the good thing is that would be good for jd in terms of stress etc. His parents does have a good point. | ||
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sixghost
United States2096 Posts
On August 25 2009 00:29 alt.tday wrote: dude its cuz its osl. its between 2 of teh best players. JD has been sucking in ZVZ lately, and he said in the pre interview that he didnt have time to practice that much. Makes sense. He's a 77% winrate player in the matchup. Yarnc cleary isn't even close to the 2nd best player right now, and ZvZ isn't exactly his strength. It makes no sense at all. | ||
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appe
Sweden149 Posts
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KwarK
United States44187 Posts
If I were his father I'd be proud of him but I wouldn't want him finding himself getting washed up with no marketable skills. | ||
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C[SCL]
Philippines576 Posts
But still, JD could be a Korean icon. LOL | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On August 24 2009 23:56 zeppelin wrote: Pro gamers play the bulk of their games in a shopping mall, the only money sponsors get out of having pro-gaming teams is advertising cachet, and that caps out after so long. It's not like Jaedong is selling tickets and luxury boxes and apparel like normal athletes, so there's probably a pretty hard limit on the amount of money that sponsors are willing to spend on a team. Jaedong -> better team + more fans -> better viewership in PL + more appearance in SL -> more exposure for the team. IMO, sponsors aren't willing to spend money because they don't HAVE to spend money. SC players have no union. They have no agents. Jaedong has to rely on his parents, who likely doesn't even have negotiation or business skills, negotiating his contract. He is going to be underpaid relative to regular professional sports players. On August 24 2009 23:41 citi.zen wrote: The sad thing is, many "regular" jobs, if you have a college degree, would pay him $100k/year if he worked 14h/day. In the US anyway. Heck, 14h is almost enough to work 2 jobs. Gaming is not that great of a path financially: he is foregoing future income thanks to a delayed/no university degree and no workplace experience, etc. Obviously, he LIKES starcraft, but this is a different matter. First of all, he's not actually playing 14 hours a day. Maybe at times, but definitely not consistently. A human body cannot withstand such pressure. Also, $100k/year is not chump change, especially since Jaedong wants to go into the computing field(I have 3 relatives working in computing and you don't make THAT much unless you have other skills too). In addition, the average Korean work week is 53 hours, whereas it's 40 hours for the US and 30-35 for many European countries. So even a normal job is pretty crappy in terms of work hours by western standard. | ||
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mcgriddle
United States253 Posts
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
It would pain me more to see him slump like Savior than to see him retire and go on to better things. Some progamers that stay in starcraft too long burn out their lives. They come to a point where they can't branch out into other industries because they've played a game for way too long. That said, there's no way he can retire now. 1-2 more years. | ||
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