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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
August 24 2009 12:14 GMT
#101
that would be the most awesome legacy to leave with. All the other amazing players dominate and decline into a shadow of their former selves. It would be nice to see a player walk away at the top of the game, if we look at oov, savior, nada, and boxer they obviously aren't the same players they once were. no 3 OSL then slump or anything, he just retires.

Although I would undoubtedly miss the most talented Zerg of all time.

But in truth, I doubt he will retire.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 24 2009 12:20 GMT
#102
wow is every other team fucking dumb? NO OFFERS for the best god damn zerg on the planet. god
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
August 24 2009 12:24 GMT
#103
Tx for the translation. I can't imagine the retirement being realistic considering SC2 is around the corner, and the opportunities that come with it.
觀過斯知仁矣.
Fresol
Profile Joined April 2009
China77 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-24 12:29:49
August 24 2009 12:25 GMT
#104
Retirement is an option, as Jaedong is only 19 and there's enough time for him to study some serious skills which may enable him to work and live like a normal person for the rest of his life. Esport is really not a serious business when you grow old.

And he's proven himself a truly GREAT starcraft player (at least to me) and have played many wonderful games/series. I won't be sad if he actually retires.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66202 Posts
August 24 2009 12:29 GMT
#105
Parents and their wordgames...
POGGERS
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 24 2009 12:32 GMT
#106
He could just go to college after he actually retires(later). He won't ever be making this much money working a normal job.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
sehole
Profile Joined August 2009
Korea (South)3 Posts
August 24 2009 12:35 GMT
#107
Hi I've been reading this site for about a year now and I finally decided to register.
I've just been on fomos and I'll try too summarize the situation.

1. In Korea you have to be 20 years old to sign a contract without your parents consent. Jaedong is still only 19. It's why his parents are negotiating his contract.
2. The rumor on fomos is that his parents wanted 200 million won guaranteed and his schedule cut back. Oz consented on the latter point but was only willing to guarantee 140 million won with incentives up to 60 million won.

On free agency
1. Its not like American sports where the player gets to choose whatever team he wants to go to.
Players are posted on a certain date and can only negociate with the team that posts the highest OVERALL offer. Teams are allowed to offer up to 3 years.
ex) Player X has opted to become a free agent. Team A offers 50 mil for 1 year, Team B offers 40 mil for 2 years, Team C offers 30 mil for 3 years. Because Team C has offered a total package of 90 million won, Player X may only negociate with Team C and his original team.
It's rumored that after learning of this rule many players decided not to opt for free agency.
2. If a team loses a player it must be compensated in one of two ways. 200% of the player's 1st year salary or 100% of the player's salary and a player on the buying team. The buying team may protect up to 6 players.
ex) Jaedong's yearly salary is expected to be around 200 million won. Any team interested in buying Jaedong would also have to pay OZ twice that.

Final opinions
I doubt that Jaedong is going to be hurt by free agency. With SK T1's gaping hole in their zerg lineup I think that Jaedong's parents are betting that T1 comes up with a huge offer and wanted to see what his market value was before signing with anybody.
Batibot
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines348 Posts
August 24 2009 12:37 GMT
#108
You know what, I believe JD wanted to play. Look at his determination. Look at how he practices, for god's sake, he's SO competitive. Like he said, he wants to beat records. There's still the platinum mouse or even the DIAMOND MOUSE.

Please don't kill JD's dreams.
Jaedong has to be a Bonjwa. Tired of of rooting for July.
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
August 24 2009 12:40 GMT
#109
On August 24 2009 21:35 sehole wrote:
Hi I've been reading this site for about a year now and I finally decided to register.
I've just been on fomos and I'll try too summarize the situation.

1. In Korea you have to be 20 years old to sign a contract without your parents consent. Jaedong is still only 19. It's why his parents are negotiating his contract.
2. The rumor on fomos is that his parents wanted 200 million won guaranteed and his schedule cut back. Oz consented on the latter point but was only willing to guarantee 140 million won with incentives up to 60 million won.

On free agency
1. Its not like American sports where the player gets to choose whatever team he wants to go to.
Players are posted on a certain date and can only negociate with the team that posts the highest OVERALL offer. Teams are allowed to offer up to 3 years.
ex) Player X has opted to become a free agent. Team A offers 50 mil for 1 year, Team B offers 40 mil for 2 years, Team C offers 30 mil for 3 years. Because Team C has offered a total package of 90 million won, Player X may only negociate with Team C and his original team.
It's rumored that after learning of this rule many players decided not to opt for free agency.
2. If a team loses a player it must be compensated in one of two ways. 200% of the player's 1st year salary or 100% of the player's salary and a player on the buying team. The buying team may protect up to 6 players.
ex) Jaedong's yearly salary is expected to be around 200 million won. Any team interested in buying Jaedong would also have to pay OZ twice that.

Final opinions
I doubt that Jaedong is going to be hurt by free agency. With SK T1's gaping hole in their zerg lineup I think that Jaedong's parents are betting that T1 comes up with a huge offer and wanted to see what his market value was before signing with anybody.


Good post. Welcome to TL.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
August 24 2009 12:45 GMT
#110
If Jaedong doesn't come to an agreement with any team (however likely or unlikely that is), I wonder whether he would be allowed to compete as a free-lance in the big tournaments (OSL, MSL, GOM). That would be a interesting prospect.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
August 24 2009 12:50 GMT
#111
Say he goes to university and gets an EE degree. Guess what? He doesn't need to work 15 hours a day anymore. Just 12!
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
August 24 2009 12:57 GMT
#112
ohh now it's retirement? what the hell is this soap-opera, aren't we supposed to get some facts by the 26th anyways? he ain't retiring that's for sure.
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
sh02hp0869
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden460 Posts
August 24 2009 13:00 GMT
#113
I dont know what to think but I blame KESPA. It seems there is meny rumors and nothing seems sure at the moment but 2days more will probleby know.
Hello mother hello father
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-24 13:06:42
August 24 2009 13:06 GMT
#114
if another team didn't have to offer 200% i'm 100% confident someone would have picked him up right now for 180 million or something
verzisor
Profile Joined February 2009
Romania73 Posts
August 24 2009 13:42 GMT
#115
Hahahahah It would be awesome if Jaedong drops SC goes to study abroad and becomes the richest man on Earth :O.
natturner
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
342 Posts
August 24 2009 14:01 GMT
#116
wtf, there's no way jaedong is gonna retire. they're just trying to scare other teams into making offers.
This nigga done stole my bike.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
August 24 2009 14:06 GMT
#117
what the fuck :|
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
August 24 2009 14:22 GMT
#118
On August 24 2009 21:35 sehole wrote:
Hi I've been reading this site for about a year now and I finally decided to register.
I've just been on fomos and I'll try too summarize the situation.

1. In Korea you have to be 20 years old to sign a contract without your parents consent. Jaedong is still only 19. It's why his parents are negotiating his contract.
2. The rumor on fomos is that his parents wanted 200 million won guaranteed and his schedule cut back. Oz consented on the latter point but was only willing to guarantee 140 million won with incentives up to 60 million won.

On free agency
1. Its not like American sports where the player gets to choose whatever team he wants to go to.
Players are posted on a certain date and can only negociate with the team that posts the highest OVERALL offer. Teams are allowed to offer up to 3 years.
ex) Player X has opted to become a free agent. Team A offers 50 mil for 1 year, Team B offers 40 mil for 2 years, Team C offers 30 mil for 3 years. Because Team C has offered a total package of 90 million won, Player X may only negociate with Team C and his original team.
It's rumored that after learning of this rule many players decided not to opt for free agency.
2. If a team loses a player it must be compensated in one of two ways. 200% of the player's 1st year salary or 100% of the player's salary and a player on the buying team. The buying team may protect up to 6 players.
ex) Jaedong's yearly salary is expected to be around 200 million won. Any team interested in buying Jaedong would also have to pay OZ twice that.

Final opinions
I doubt that Jaedong is going to be hurt by free agency. With SK T1's gaping hole in their zerg lineup I think that Jaedong's parents are betting that T1 comes up with a huge offer and wanted to see what his market value was before signing with anybody.

so getting jd on your team would cost you 600m won or 400m won and a player.
who would t1 protect? bisu, fantasy, canata, best, boxer, and doctor.k as the teamleader? so oz would get iloveoov? forget it;-)
600m won are fucking 330k euros, a third of a million...
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 24 2009 14:27 GMT
#119
On August 24 2009 23:22 Heimatloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 21:35 sehole wrote:
Hi I've been reading this site for about a year now and I finally decided to register.
I've just been on fomos and I'll try too summarize the situation.

1. In Korea you have to be 20 years old to sign a contract without your parents consent. Jaedong is still only 19. It's why his parents are negotiating his contract.
2. The rumor on fomos is that his parents wanted 200 million won guaranteed and his schedule cut back. Oz consented on the latter point but was only willing to guarantee 140 million won with incentives up to 60 million won.

On free agency
1. Its not like American sports where the player gets to choose whatever team he wants to go to.
Players are posted on a certain date and can only negociate with the team that posts the highest OVERALL offer. Teams are allowed to offer up to 3 years.
ex) Player X has opted to become a free agent. Team A offers 50 mil for 1 year, Team B offers 40 mil for 2 years, Team C offers 30 mil for 3 years. Because Team C has offered a total package of 90 million won, Player X may only negociate with Team C and his original team.
It's rumored that after learning of this rule many players decided not to opt for free agency.
2. If a team loses a player it must be compensated in one of two ways. 200% of the player's 1st year salary or 100% of the player's salary and a player on the buying team. The buying team may protect up to 6 players.
ex) Jaedong's yearly salary is expected to be around 200 million won. Any team interested in buying Jaedong would also have to pay OZ twice that.

Final opinions
I doubt that Jaedong is going to be hurt by free agency. With SK T1's gaping hole in their zerg lineup I think that Jaedong's parents are betting that T1 comes up with a huge offer and wanted to see what his market value was before signing with anybody.

so getting jd on your team would cost you 600m won or 400m won and a player.
who would t1 protect? bisu, fantasy, canata, best, boxer, and doctor.k as the teamleader? so oz would get iloveoov? forget it;-)
600m won are fucking 330k euros, a third of a million...


I thought it was based on CURRENT salary? cause if thats the case its only like 70 million right?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Hieros
Profile Joined June 2009
United States83 Posts
August 24 2009 14:28 GMT
#120
On August 24 2009 20:24 DragoonPK wrote:
Personally, I think its quite selfish for all the fans and people to start bashing Jaedong if he decides to retire. I mean being a progamer specially on Oz, the amount of workload and pressure you have to go through is crazy! JD sure can handle it today, but look it it more into the future, a couple of years and the effect of this spartan training will show and it wont be good. Thus, I think that if Jaedong decides to retire then that would be the best for his body/mind , I know he still wants to play but his future is really not going to be that healthy if he stays the same way. His parents probably dont agree with him on being a progamer as you saw from his fathers response specially, they are more old school. So JD, even if you retire, I still think you are the best ever and it will be a good choice to go through as many progamers dont get much education if because of the insane time allocation.



Ah but isn't the rub of this is that it's not really JD's decision at all? Who's to say if parents are taking his desires into account? (Not to conflate desires with best interests, though).

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