Unindented players play in the Round of 36 Indented players are seeded into winner's matches in Round of 36 from previous OSL (#5-16) Doubly-indented players are seeded into Round of 16 from previous OSL (#1-4)
May 6 - Group A by vx70GTOJudgexv May 8 - Group B by vx70GTOJudgexv May 13 - Group C by vx70GTOJudgexv May 15 - Group D by vx70GTOJudgexv May 20 - Group E by vx70GTOJudgexv May 22 - Group F by vx70GTOJudgexv May 27 - Group G by vx70GTOJudgexv May 29 - Group H by disciple June 3 - Group I by konadora June 5 - Group J by boesthius June 10 - Group K by 3 Lions June 12 - Group L by MorningMusume11
He should've won a couple of the OSLs he didn't. By the time he does it's gonna be way too far apart from his MSLs to give him any kind of reign over an era, sadly. Would've been nice to have a real Protoss king.
If everything goes according to plan, then by the Ro16 there should only be two toss left (BeSt and Bisu) And Casy can have a fun time till he reaches either one.
* MBCGame HERO is the only team that didn't qualify a Zerg. * This is the first OSL since So1 2005 that Zergs are the most-represented race. * IrOn doesn't have an English translation of his name in TLPD * This is the first OSL since Shinhan 3 2006 that every team has qualified players for.
On May 11 2009 00:28 DoX.) wrote: If everything goes according to plan, then by the Ro16 there should only be two toss left (BeSt and Bisu) And Casy can have a fun time till he reaches either one.
Stork should make it too, but yeah it would be epic if Casy makes it to the quarterfinals.
I'm hoping to do all the LR threads, as I'm making an attempt to watch the entire Bacchus OSL live this season. Only thing standing in my way is not knowing my exact summer work schedule (overnights or closing shift. Overnights defeats me, closing shift is no problem).
On May 13 2009 23:21 GrandInquisitor wrote: haha, that's intense. okay!
It is, but it's really not all that hard actually.
I've only stayed up for one where I had classes the next morning (Group A) and then my classes ended. Now I'm at the point where I don't have a final tomorrow or next wednesday, then I'm home and I'm working a late shift for work hopefully (4:00 PM-11:30 PM).
EDIT: On an OSL related note, we're down to a maximum of 5 Protoss onto the next round and with Shuttle in Flash's group, I'm more inclined to think it will be 4 - Bisu, BeSt (should beat Pure/type-b), BackHo and Stork (could possibly lose though **UPSET ALERT**).
I just realized that I had been using the ridiculously fail map to keep track of which OSL is which: Ever 2007 - Persona Bacchus 2008 - Demon's Forest Ever 2008 - Hwarangdo Incruit - Plasma Batoo - Tears of the Moon
Hopefully Holy World will break the trend; the map stats so far already make it look more balanced than any of those maps, hopefully that will hold true for PvT.
Thanks for keeping this up, can't always remember all the results as there are many other tournaments going on the same time! Also thanks to aeonshifter for that tiebreak info.
Looks like Flash is going to get knocked out. Yarnc needs one more win (or Effort 2) and Flash can't make it out. The only way that he could is if Yarnc and Effort both end up 1-2, which isn't likely.
Last OSL ro16, Leta needed by.hero to lose (to fantasy) to guarantee advancing. This OSL, Leta needs by.hero to win (vs Kwanro) to guarantee advancing. by.hero and Leta also met in the MSL at one point (Leta won, they both advanced). Rivalry?
On July 02 2009 17:55 Too_MuchZerg wrote: so what is clinch? Kinda like another word for advance / qualify?
Clinch = make it impossible to not advance. If a player is guaranteed to advance but the group is still going on they haven't technically advanced yet (because the round/group isn't over), they've just clinched.
On July 03 2009 02:45 StorZerg wrote: If effort beats yellow, Jaedong could just lose to yellow auto eliminating flash O_o.
This could very well happen since Jaedong probably wouldn't practice for a match that means nothing to him. However I still see JD taking this round 3-0 as he seems to win ZvZs in his sleep.
On July 03 2009 02:45 StorZerg wrote: If effort beats yellow, Jaedong could just lose to yellow auto eliminating flash O_o.
This could very well happen since Jaedong probably wouldn't practice for a match that means nothing to him. However I still see JD taking this round 3-0 as he seems to win ZvZs in his sleep.
Ya but knowing that if he throws the game he will eliminate a possible obstacle down the road might make playing shitty one game worthwhile.
There was no fixed bracket for Batoo OSL. There was a drawing after the last tie breaker where a coach or a player (I forgot who) just picked lottery tickets out of boxes with the players names on it. As far as I remember, it was not fixed but random. With the exception of course that a group winner plays against a second place, and that you cannot play against the other player advancing from your group.
There was no fixed bracket for Batoo OSL. There was a drawing after the last tie breaker where a coach or a player (I forgot who) just picked lottery tickets out of boxes with the players names on it. As far as I remember, it was not fixed but random. With the exception of course that a group winner plays against a second place, and that you cannot play against the other player advancing from your group.
I think Flash really will force a tiebreaker. Flash can beat Effort (won't be easy), as long as he doesn't go for another absurd 1 fact into CC build vs a 2 hatchery build. As for Yarnc vs Jaedong, eliminating Flash by throwing the game would be the smartest idea, since JD will not lose to either zerg player in a Bo3. However, I think his competitive nature will not allow him to take a game off, and JD is likely quite confident he'll crush anyone he has to play next round, regardless of whom it may be.
But will Flash win said tiebreaker? I predict not so.
A If Flash > EffOrt: Jaedong & Yellow[arnc] If Flash < Effort: tiebreaker between Jaedong / EffOrt / Yellow[arnc] B If fantasy > Stork: fantasy & type-b If fantasy < Stork: tiebreaker between fantasy / type-b / Stork C Zero & If go.go > Hwasin: go.go If go.go < Hwasin: tiebreaker between go.go / Bisu / Hwasin D Leta & winner of Canata vs by.hero
The OSL Ro8 format is always decided by a random drawing. The only stipulation is that a player cannot play someone in his Ro16 group and the first place seeds cannot play themselves and the same for the second place seeds.
On July 07 2009 00:42 SuperArc wrote: I dont even see Flash winning against Effort...
Me either. Flash hasn't been doing great recently and it can be argued that Effort is the 2nd best Zerg there is.
Actually he's been doing awesome lately, just sucked in his OSL group and lost to Calm and Kal in PL. Other than that he's been steamrolling kids left and right the past 1.5 months.
On July 09 2009 11:33 peidongyang wrote: Okay so these people are probably gonna advance to ro8 JD, Yarnc, Fantasy, Type-b, Zero, go.go, leta, by.hero or kwanro?
Saying "probably gonna advance" is just so inexact. It's way more complicated than that. Besides, Kwanro is and has been eliminated for a while now.
ZerO and Leta are locks. Jaedong, YarnC, fantasy, and type-b are guaranteed a spot in a tiebreaker at least. hero and Canata duke it out for the second place spot in their group. go.go can advance with a win, is in tiebreaker with a loss. Hwasin, Stork, and EffOrt are playing for a tiebreaker spot if they win. Bisu's fate is out of his control (hoping for Hwasin to win - IRONY ) Flash, BackHo, and Kwanro are all eliminated, but Flash could decide if there's a tiebreaker or not.
= Qualified ***** = On the border of qualified and in tiebreaker. **** = In tiebreaker. *** = Chance to qualify. ** = Chance to qualify for tiebreaker. * = Disqualified.
that made it way more confusing... and completely wrong
jd yarnc and effort is not in tie breaker yet neither is fantasy or type b canata and by.hero is not fighting for tie breakers, they're fighting for advance leta qualified already
On July 09 2009 07:20 oneill wrote: I can see intentional loss from Hwasin and Flash. Too bad BIsu is going to be out of the tournament T.T
Yeah, I can totally see Hwasin deciding that he should eliminate himself from the OSL, and letting the guy who called him Insurance during the Group Selections advance. Makes perfect sense.
On July 10 2009 10:44 MountainDewJunkie wrote: It says, "advances to Round of 16" next to Leta and Zero... but this is the Ro16... so shouldn't it say "advances to Round of 8"?
3 Teammate battles. Hite gauranteed for Final spot. Alot of good potential match-ups. Yarnc vs Leta and JD Vs Fantasy Ro4 would be awesome. Then again Flash instead of Yarnc and Bisu instead of go.go, Stork instead of type-b and Hero instead of Canata would of made this the best OSL Ro8 ever.
On July 10 2009 10:44 MountainDewJunkie wrote: It says, "advances to Round of 16" next to Leta and Zero... but this is the Ro16... so shouldn't it say "advances to Round of 8"?
Looks like there could be an underdog victor here. As long as the top half of the Ro8 bring their absolute best, this could end up with a great finals rather than the victor from the bottom half 3-0ing a Hite guy.
On July 10 2009 23:39 Flicky wrote: 4 Hite players, 3 SKT and a 1 Woongjin. 3/8 (possible) teams still in? That must be some kind of record. Looks like there could be an underdog victor here. As long as the top half of the Ro8 bring their absolute best, this could end up with a great finals rather than the victor from the bottom half 3-0ing a Hite guy.
On July 10 2009 23:39 Flicky wrote: 4 Hite players, 3 SKT and a 1 Woongjin. 3/8 (possible) teams still in? That must be some kind of record. Looks like there could be an underdog victor here. As long as the top half of the Ro8 bring their absolute best, this could end up with a great finals rather than the victor from the bottom half 3-0ing a Hite guy.
Jaedong is a SKT player?! OMG
I didnt know that! :p
Fark, I even double checked that and I still made a mistake. I was like "Man, that doesn't seem right" Edited that out now =/.
On July 10 2009 23:39 Flicky wrote: 4 Hite players, 3 SKT and a 1 Woongjin. 3/8 (possible) teams still in? That must be some kind of record. Looks like there could be an underdog victor here. As long as the top half of the Ro8 bring their absolute best, this could end up with a great finals rather than the victor from the bottom half 3-0ing a Hite guy.
Jaedong is a SKT player?! OMG
I didnt know that! :p
Then again that could be scary proleague lineup.... Bisu, Fantasy, Jaedong and Best.
On July 10 2009 23:39 Flicky wrote: 4 Hite players, 3 SKT and a 1 Woongjin. 3/8 (possible) teams still in? That must be some kind of record. Looks like there could be an underdog victor here. As long as the top half of the Ro8 bring their absolute best, this could end up with a great finals rather than the victor from the bottom half 3-0ing a Hite guy.
Jaedong is a SKT player?! OMG
I didnt know that! :p
Then again that could be scary proleague lineup.... Bisu, Fantasy, Jaedong and Best.
Take out BeSt and you make it sound 100x scarier.
Edit: Jaedong's ZvZ, Bisu's PvP, and Fantasy's TvT are strong enough. Now let these 3 players practice with each other and allow them to share each other's workload (*cough* Jaedong Oz *cough*) then that would be one imbalanced team.
poor Protoss... well I don't think there will be too many mirrors. I yellows lucky OSL though, he will very likely fighting terrans the first two round, hes great at vT...and his zvz is not that bad. Expecting JD, Leta, Yellow, Fantasy... And I cant imagine a zvz final with this
For anyone making crazy predictions about matchups they should/want to see, brackets for the Ro8 should look thusly:
Yarnc <> Type-b
Fantasy <> Jaedong
Zero <> Canata
Leta <> go.go
So Ro8 is Hite deathmatch central, and past that is fairly unclear with 2 teammate matchups and JD/Fantasy and Canata/Zero both being fairly close (depending on which Zero shows up). I'd say ZvZ finals are fairly unlikely, but TvT is possible if Fantasy beats Jaedong. One of Leta or Canata could certainly take down Zero, it would surprise me a little if he makes it to the finals. I'd project JD/Leta as the most likely finals scenario, but tons of things could happen.
On July 11 2009 06:12 BlackMagister wrote: Seriously Sparkyz will need outside help to practice. Not only are most of their top players in but they're all facing each other.
On July 11 2009 06:12 BlackMagister wrote: Seriously Sparkyz will need outside help to practice. Not only are most of their top players in but they're all facing each other.
the other teams are quite busy with playoffs :p
Well they don't need Protoss practice partners for OSL, and I hear KT has a few decent Terrans and Zergs and doesn't have playoffs to worry about.
On July 11 2009 06:12 BlackMagister wrote: Seriously Sparkyz will need outside help to practice. Not only are most of their top players in but they're all facing each other.
the other teams are quite busy with playoffs :p
Except for the whole half of the league not in the playoffs...
On July 11 2009 06:31 Macavenger wrote: For anyone making crazy predictions about matchups they should/want to see, brackets for the Ro8 should look thusly:
Yarnc <> Type-b
Fantasy <> Jaedong
Zero <> Canata
Leta <> go.go
So Ro8 is Hite deathmatch central, and past that is fairly unclear with 2 teammate matchups and JD/Fantasy and Canata/Zero both being fairly close (depending on which Zero shows up). I'd say ZvZ finals are fairly unlikely, but TvT is possible if Fantasy beats Jaedong. One of Leta or Canata could certainly take down Zero, it would surprise me a little if he makes it to the finals. I'd project JD/Leta as the most likely finals scenario, but tons of things could happen.
Are those the brackets? Poor Fantasy is going to get another silver. He is going to get run over in TvT by go.go
On July 16 2009 21:19 JohnBall wrote: No Flash or Bisu... Looking good for Jaedong. I predict that Fantasy vs Jaedong will be the real finals here. Whoever wins this is taking the trophy.
Leta's TvT or Yarnc's ZvT are as strong as fantasy.
Well I actually think that no protoss will be a good thing. I personallly love watching TvZ, a huge ball of marines and medics with tons of vessels. on the other hand zerg uses just about every unit in a decent TvZ. You gotta love the battles where the Zerg uses swarm, and plague... And brings a huge army of Ultras and Lurkers. And well TvT... not the favorite match up, but I dont see why there couldnt be some epic ghosts and Battlecruisers, starcraft is good as it gets when you see 12 Battlecruisers using Yamato, right after getting locked and nuked. And well for the ZvZs, there wont be many if you ask me, but for the ones there are, hope for the best... The players got this far, they wont bring their mediocre game.
On July 16 2009 21:19 JohnBall wrote: No Flash or Bisu... Looking good for Jaedong. I predict that Fantasy vs Jaedong will be the real finals here. Whoever wins this is taking the trophy.
Leta's TvT or Yarnc's ZvT are as strong as fantasy.
Leta just does not beat fantasy, Bisu, Jaedong, or Jangbi. He is a combined 2-13 against those players (1 win against Jangbi, 1 win against Bisu).
The ro4 bracket makes me so mad. Jaedong vs fantasy is a semifinal that was actually a final if there ever was one. It makes the MSL's decision to have the brackets based on Kespa rankings look that much smarter. I wish the OSL had had that in place at the ro8
If SKT1 beats Oz in PL, I don't see fantasy beating Jaedong. It doesn't matter how hungry you are for revenge after a humiliating loss last OSL; Jaedong's wrath cannot be surpassed.
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