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On July 19 2012 02:03 VenomBRA wrote: Ethical board, wow. That sounds serious.
Well, stealing something which your colleague has been working on for a year actually IS kinda serious ...
Anyway, this story gives me a bad feeling about graduating soon lol
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If everything happened according to the OP, I'm glad the right things are being done. Congratulations~
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that made me really angry you got to fight back
QUE SE JODA
if you don't mind, I'm curious as to how he could just steal your project just like that
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I hope everything works out for you!
I recently went through a somewhat similar experience, and I know how much it stings to have someone else take credit for your work, and still fuck it up in the process.
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Man people suck sometimes, did he spend the money on stuff you guys needed at least? People really suck sometimes :S
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Nice!
On July 19 2012 02:03 VenomBRA wrote: Ethical board, wow. That sounds serious.
also whats an Ethical board? lol
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Wow, you turned it around amazingly. I feel you man, and I really hope that asshole gets what he deserves. Good luck!
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On July 19 2012 00:08 UmbraaeternuS wrote:UPDATE
I neglected to mention in my rant that I had written a memo/report to my boss regarding the utility of the project I was writing (handling the pre-project she never saw, because it was discussed with my colleagues first, being in that instance when this bastard stole my idea) about 2 days ago, not recieving any reply whatsoever. She's usually very busy (she's running a fucking hospital after all) so she couldn't spare a minute to talk to me today. Being so pissed made me lose track of this oh, so very important thing... Anyway, she replied 30 minutes ago with an e-mail: "After reading both proposals I seriously believe yours adjusts better to what we're looking for in terms of modernization of our medical equipment. I will ask you to get the pricings for each article and to send me an estimate budget for everything, and since you acquired the funding, I will put you in charge of this project. I am also very concerned regarding your claims of your project and funding being utilized by your colleague without your knowledge and without mine. This happened because you took a long time in telling me about this, maybe because you wanted to get everything done and present the finished thing; still, it is inexcusable for a colleague to do such a thing and we will pass this to the ethical board promptly. I would like to discuss all of this with you in private later this week. Could you spare an hour this friday morning? Lock your agenda from 11:00 to 12:00 and come to my office." Shit just got real! ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) Karma.
HIGH FIVE.
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I don't know what it is, but lot of stories that get posted on TL seem to end on good note eventually. You can bet I'll be blogging any real-life disasters here should one happen to strike me. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) (okay I suspect it is selection bias but let me have my moment)
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So glad it worked out for you man! And so glad that it worked out for the hospital too! (since you know, modernization > one ultrasound machine) Sounds like you are trying to do good things in medicine. Keep it up!
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hopefully your colleague gets his ass fired or something.
Justice is done! :D
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On July 19 2012 04:04 LazyFailKid wrote:Nice! Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 02:03 VenomBRA wrote: Ethical board, wow. That sounds serious. also whats an Ethical board? lol
Ethics boards generally oversee/review actions to see if they comply with organizational ethical standards. Depending on the exact situation they can frequently place sanctions of some sort against individuals they find to have committed unethical acts. For example, a ethics board for a state Bar Association could revoke a lawyer's license to practice law (or suspend it, or fine them) for engaging in unethical practices.
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I wish you the best of luck. Fuck these kinds of people man :/
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i don't know how things work in Chile, but that sounds like theft.
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Also, if all else fails (after your update), wait 10 years then burn down his house.
No one expects that shit.
+ Show Spoiler +Yes I'm just kidding. But seriously though, no one.
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Hey hey congrats. I hope things go as well as that email suggests it might. Love seeing times where there's actually justice in the world :D
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Ethical board is kind of barking up the wrong tree here.
Whining about it to your boss won't solve the problem because your boss doesn't have an incentive actually get involved. The ethics board is far too slow of a mechanism--by the time they get involved your friend will have accumulated the points, and what's more it, won't help you either--the best that could happen is that the entire thing gets delayed for a year.
Time to take matters into your own hands.
The ideal solution? If it's $90,000, and that's considered a lot of money in Chile, and your colleague already has shown that he lacks a moral backbone, then half the work is almost done for you.
Just entrap him in a kickback scandal for buying the new machines that he's proposed. The sonomonographs or whatever machine you talked about--they were already new, right? So to a neutral observer, it appears that the machines are unnecessary, and that maybe your friend has some ulterior reasons for pushing to buy them. So you just make it so that when the machines are ordered from the factory, you tell the factory owner or salesperson about how poor your friend is. Tell them that your friend needs some cash because of a gambling problem or sick relative or demanding girlfriend or whatever. Make it seem like your friend is too proud to ask for the cash himself but would appreciate getting it as a gift anyhow. Just mention all this in passing, say, over a casual coffee or lunch, and then wait.
Once the transaction is made, get evidence of the kickback. Just a simple photograph, maybe a forged invoice, or something. Then approach the director with that evidence, and say that you'll go to the ethics board with *that* complaint as opposed to a simple case of office politics. Now your director *has* to get involved, because if a kickback scandal happens it's his ass on the line, and given the circumstantial evidence already listed above (unnecessary purchase, large sums of money, etc.) then the ethics board will probably find him guilty. Offer your director an easy way out of the situation: fire your friend, put you in charge of the project, and the evidence goes away.
Now your friend is the one completely screwed--and the best thing is, he will have no idea that it was you who did the screwing, so he won't even know where to look for revenge, first, either. In fact, the best way to cap this off would be to take him out for drinks the final night, and sympathize with him about the raw deal he got, and tell him how you're always eager to repay his friendship and kindness.
Don't get mad. Get even.
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Nice work. Keep fighting the good fight!
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Wow, that really sucks man. I know you had good intentions with your plan, and it really sucks that everything you worked for got corrupted for selfish reasons. If I could offer any silver lining here, it's that you are now wiser and know to watch your back next time. ^^;
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This is how a good Law and Order episode starts.
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