• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:12
CEST 04:12
KST 11:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed15Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension3Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7
StarCraft 2
General
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed Who will win EWC 2025? RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Server Blocker
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Soulkey Muta Micro Map? [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2025 ACS Season 2 Qualifier Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches CSL Xiamen International Invitational
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Summer Games Done Quick 2025!
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 672 users

Screwing around on iccup - Page 2

Blogs > Racenilatr
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
May 25 2009 00:18 GMT
#21
That's a fun strategy kwark but maybe that's why your PvP is weak. :D
No I'm never serious.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
May 25 2009 00:20 GMT
#22
On May 25 2009 09:18 Nytefish wrote:
That's a fun strategy kwark but maybe that's why your PvP is weak. :D

kwark is like this in every matchup
Moderator。◕‿◕。
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42604 Posts
May 25 2009 00:21 GMT
#23
[image loading]


If you can't work it out from this and the description you don't deserve the freewins.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42604 Posts
May 25 2009 00:23 GMT
#24
On May 25 2009 09:18 Nytefish wrote:
That's a fun strategy kwark but maybe that's why your PvP is weak. :D

I don't use these. I just like working them out and if there's going to be a topic on how to cheese PvP on Destination then I'm going to tell them how to do it right.
As for the suggestion that I do this every matchup, take a look at any of my PvZ wins and you'll see high level straight up play.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
May 25 2009 00:24 GMT
#25
Wow. Now I know where to put my 1st pylon if I'm the top position in a pvp on destination.
KwanROLLLLLLLED
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
May 25 2009 00:25 GMT
#26
hmm This might work out. I'll have to try this one too haha. I still like mine because its pure roflsup if you can pull it off correctly
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42604 Posts
May 25 2009 00:26 GMT
#27
On May 25 2009 09:24 Lysdexia wrote:
Wow. Now I know where to put my 1st pylon if I'm the top position in a pvp on destination.

Blocking them from manner pyloning you. If they go 8 manner pylon successfully you're still fucked. Your first pylon is always antimanner.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Muirhead
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States556 Posts
May 25 2009 00:27 GMT
#28
Kwark I've lost to your exact cheese build a few times. Could you tell us the most effective way to block it? Thanks!
starleague.mit.edu
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
May 25 2009 00:28 GMT
#29
Put a probe in one of the positions of the gateway or forge and press S
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42604 Posts
May 25 2009 00:31 GMT
#30
8 pylon, 10 gateway, 12 forge. Remain calm. Don't scout. Keep pumping probes. Make 1 zealot to keep his zealot off your back (it won't have probe support so it's not that dangerous, it's mainly a distraction) then make a cannon asap. Yours will be done before his. If he makes 2 then you make 2. You will have a vastly superior economy and he will be losing his buildings for no gain. You can then do what you like to win. Generally 2 gateway pressure into rangegoon will do the trick.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
May 25 2009 00:33 GMT
#31
On May 25 2009 09:07 Racenilatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2009 09:06 Resonance wrote:
I still can't believe you are 404.Evan

Whats wrong with that?

I TRUSTED YOU

: <
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42604 Posts
May 25 2009 00:33 GMT
#32
It's not actually a great build (though definitely better than the gateway one suggested here) because if the opponent knows exactly what they're doing and remains calm it is completely owned. It works because half the time even if they stop it they waste so much time messing around with probes trying to attack buildings or losing probes to your zealot harass that you're a mile ahead. Remain calm, keep powering that economy and just make a cannon.
But it will save you time getting to the rank where you have to start playing properly because bad players see it and either get confused or panic and by the time they work out what you've done they've lost.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
May 25 2009 00:36 GMT
#33
On May 25 2009 09:23 Kwark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2009 09:18 Nytefish wrote:
That's a fun strategy kwark but maybe that's why your PvP is weak. :D

I don't use these. I just like working them out and if there's going to be a topic on how to cheese PvP on Destination then I'm going to tell them how to do it right.
As for the suggestion that I do this every matchup, take a look at any of my PvZ wins and you'll see high level straight up play.


I was just teasing, nice explanation of a fun build. Do you have any other map specific cheeses, any matchup?
No I'm never serious.
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
May 25 2009 00:37 GMT
#34
Nice build and nice music. Makes me want to play Civ4 again.
"Jinro soo manly wearing only a T-Shirt while the Koreans freeze in their jackets" -- Double_O
"He's from Sweden, man. We have to fight polar bears on our way to school." -- Yusername
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42604 Posts
May 25 2009 00:38 GMT
#35
On May 25 2009 09:36 Nytefish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2009 09:23 Kwark wrote:
On May 25 2009 09:18 Nytefish wrote:
That's a fun strategy kwark but maybe that's why your PvP is weak. :D

I don't use these. I just like working them out and if there's going to be a topic on how to cheese PvP on Destination then I'm going to tell them how to do it right.
As for the suggestion that I do this every matchup, take a look at any of my PvZ wins and you'll see high level straight up play.


I was just teasing, nice explanation of a fun build. Do you have any other map specific cheeses, any matchup?

Same trick on Blue Storm when you're bottom left. Gateway above the gas, forge to the right of mineral line, pylon between gas and mineral line. I had it done to me a while ago and thought it was pretty clever so I worked out how to do it on other maps.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
May 25 2009 00:51 GMT
#36
What if protoss makes a geyser to get in between? It is very possible, Im sure.

Also, probes can break in base gateways, I think people let them be built cuz they are at the micro advantage fighting with the probes at home, dunno...
Id have broken it with probes.
http://www.kongregate.com/?referrer=Sagess
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
May 25 2009 00:56 GMT
#37
ya I think most Protoss players are under a common misconception that they can't break through gateways, but in reality, if they start soon enough they can really force the toss to cancel the gateway. Also WHATS WRONG WITH ME BEING 404.EVAN? WHAT IF THATS NOT MEH?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42604 Posts
May 25 2009 01:28 GMT
#38
On May 25 2009 09:56 Racenilatr wrote:
ya I think most Protoss players are under a common misconception that they can't break through gateways, but in reality, if they start soon enough they can really force the toss to cancel the gateway. Also WHATS WRONG WITH ME BEING 404.EVAN? WHAT IF THATS NOT MEH?

The point is that even if you attack the gateways you still lose because of mining time. You want a way of being safe fast without using probes. When they commit allin to blocking your gateway stuff while you're building up your own economy and relying on travel time to defend you you end up ahead.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
May 25 2009 01:28 GMT
#39
Just thought I'd say, yes that was me Sup Racenilatr ^^
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
May 25 2009 01:46 GMT
#40
yea any non-retard toss will attack the gateway as soon as you build it that close. I've had this done to me so many times in so many ways that I expect it on destination now.
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 48m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 201
NeuroSwarm 171
RuFF_SC2 148
Livibee 136
StarCraft: Brood War
Icarus 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever835
League of Legends
Trikslyr89
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K449
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe175
Other Games
tarik_tv25921
summit1g16320
Skadoodle951
shahzam701
JimRising 510
C9.Mang0247
ViBE227
WinterStarcraft104
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1918
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 86
• davetesta62
• HeavenSC 13
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt158
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
7h 48m
Epic.LAN
9h 48m
CSO Contender
14h 48m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 7h
Online Event
1d 13h
Esports World Cup
3 days
ByuN vs Astrea
Lambo vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
Solar vs Zoun
SHIN vs Reynor
Maru vs TriGGeR
herO vs Lancer
Cure vs ShoWTimE
Esports World Cup
4 days
Esports World Cup
5 days
Esports World Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

BSL 2v2 Season 3
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Xiamen Invitational
2025 ACS Season 2
Championship of Russia 2025
Underdog Cup #2
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.