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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
May 25 2009 00:18 GMT
#21
That's a fun strategy kwark but maybe that's why your PvP is weak. :D
No I'm never serious.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
May 25 2009 00:20 GMT
#22
On May 25 2009 09:18 Nytefish wrote:
That's a fun strategy kwark but maybe that's why your PvP is weak. :D

kwark is like this in every matchup
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
May 25 2009 00:21 GMT
#23
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If you can't work it out from this and the description you don't deserve the freewins.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
May 25 2009 00:23 GMT
#24
On May 25 2009 09:18 Nytefish wrote:
That's a fun strategy kwark but maybe that's why your PvP is weak. :D

I don't use these. I just like working them out and if there's going to be a topic on how to cheese PvP on Destination then I'm going to tell them how to do it right.
As for the suggestion that I do this every matchup, take a look at any of my PvZ wins and you'll see high level straight up play.
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Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
May 25 2009 00:24 GMT
#25
Wow. Now I know where to put my 1st pylon if I'm the top position in a pvp on destination.
KwanROLLLLLLLED
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
May 25 2009 00:25 GMT
#26
hmm This might work out. I'll have to try this one too haha. I still like mine because its pure roflsup if you can pull it off correctly
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
May 25 2009 00:26 GMT
#27
On May 25 2009 09:24 Lysdexia wrote:
Wow. Now I know where to put my 1st pylon if I'm the top position in a pvp on destination.

Blocking them from manner pyloning you. If they go 8 manner pylon successfully you're still fucked. Your first pylon is always antimanner.
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Muirhead
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States556 Posts
May 25 2009 00:27 GMT
#28
Kwark I've lost to your exact cheese build a few times. Could you tell us the most effective way to block it? Thanks!
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Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
May 25 2009 00:28 GMT
#29
Put a probe in one of the positions of the gateway or forge and press S
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
May 25 2009 00:31 GMT
#30
8 pylon, 10 gateway, 12 forge. Remain calm. Don't scout. Keep pumping probes. Make 1 zealot to keep his zealot off your back (it won't have probe support so it's not that dangerous, it's mainly a distraction) then make a cannon asap. Yours will be done before his. If he makes 2 then you make 2. You will have a vastly superior economy and he will be losing his buildings for no gain. You can then do what you like to win. Generally 2 gateway pressure into rangegoon will do the trick.
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Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
May 25 2009 00:33 GMT
#31
On May 25 2009 09:07 Racenilatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2009 09:06 Resonance wrote:
I still can't believe you are 404.Evan

Whats wrong with that?

I TRUSTED YOU

: <
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
May 25 2009 00:33 GMT
#32
It's not actually a great build (though definitely better than the gateway one suggested here) because if the opponent knows exactly what they're doing and remains calm it is completely owned. It works because half the time even if they stop it they waste so much time messing around with probes trying to attack buildings or losing probes to your zealot harass that you're a mile ahead. Remain calm, keep powering that economy and just make a cannon.
But it will save you time getting to the rank where you have to start playing properly because bad players see it and either get confused or panic and by the time they work out what you've done they've lost.
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
May 25 2009 00:36 GMT
#33
On May 25 2009 09:23 Kwark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2009 09:18 Nytefish wrote:
That's a fun strategy kwark but maybe that's why your PvP is weak. :D

I don't use these. I just like working them out and if there's going to be a topic on how to cheese PvP on Destination then I'm going to tell them how to do it right.
As for the suggestion that I do this every matchup, take a look at any of my PvZ wins and you'll see high level straight up play.


I was just teasing, nice explanation of a fun build. Do you have any other map specific cheeses, any matchup?
No I'm never serious.
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
May 25 2009 00:37 GMT
#34
Nice build and nice music. Makes me want to play Civ4 again.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
May 25 2009 00:38 GMT
#35
On May 25 2009 09:36 Nytefish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2009 09:23 Kwark wrote:
On May 25 2009 09:18 Nytefish wrote:
That's a fun strategy kwark but maybe that's why your PvP is weak. :D

I don't use these. I just like working them out and if there's going to be a topic on how to cheese PvP on Destination then I'm going to tell them how to do it right.
As for the suggestion that I do this every matchup, take a look at any of my PvZ wins and you'll see high level straight up play.


I was just teasing, nice explanation of a fun build. Do you have any other map specific cheeses, any matchup?

Same trick on Blue Storm when you're bottom left. Gateway above the gas, forge to the right of mineral line, pylon between gas and mineral line. I had it done to me a while ago and thought it was pretty clever so I worked out how to do it on other maps.
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Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
May 25 2009 00:51 GMT
#36
What if protoss makes a geyser to get in between? It is very possible, Im sure.

Also, probes can break in base gateways, I think people let them be built cuz they are at the micro advantage fighting with the probes at home, dunno...
Id have broken it with probes.
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Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
May 25 2009 00:56 GMT
#37
ya I think most Protoss players are under a common misconception that they can't break through gateways, but in reality, if they start soon enough they can really force the toss to cancel the gateway. Also WHATS WRONG WITH ME BEING 404.EVAN? WHAT IF THATS NOT MEH?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44190 Posts
May 25 2009 01:28 GMT
#38
On May 25 2009 09:56 Racenilatr wrote:
ya I think most Protoss players are under a common misconception that they can't break through gateways, but in reality, if they start soon enough they can really force the toss to cancel the gateway. Also WHATS WRONG WITH ME BEING 404.EVAN? WHAT IF THATS NOT MEH?

The point is that even if you attack the gateways you still lose because of mining time. You want a way of being safe fast without using probes. When they commit allin to blocking your gateway stuff while you're building up your own economy and relying on travel time to defend you you end up ahead.
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Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
May 25 2009 01:28 GMT
#39
Just thought I'd say, yes that was me Sup Racenilatr ^^
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
May 25 2009 01:46 GMT
#40
yea any non-retard toss will attack the gateway as soon as you build it that close. I've had this done to me so many times in so many ways that I expect it on destination now.
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
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