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On May 25 2009 10:28 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2009 09:56 Racenilatr wrote:
ya I think most Protoss players are under a common misconception that they can't break through gateways, but in reality, if they start soon enough they can really force the toss to cancel the gateway. Also WHATS WRONG WITH ME BEING 404.EVAN? WHAT IF THATS NOT MEH? The point is that even if you attack the gateways you still lose because of mining time. You want a way of being safe fast without using probes. When they commit allin to blocking your gateway stuff while you're building up your own economy and relying on travel time to defend you you end up ahead.
Everytime they did it to, I attacked the gateway with probes, and I won. Maybe the opponents were not strong.
What seems to have happened, is that I do get zealots much before the opponent and map control
You can harass his base so badly when your gateway is that much earlier.
He still has a pylon and gateway to go though when my zealot is already under production.
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United States43990 Posts
I guess they didn't know what they were doing then. If you don't commit to the proxy gateways you can still come out ahead because of travel time and because you build a 2nd gateway swiftly in your main (on about 14 psi). You need to have a clear idea of how you're adapting from the failed proxy rather than just attempt to play it normally but it doesn't leave you behind if you do it well. Imo most players are really bad at doing anything non standard.
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On May 25 2009 09:56 Racenilatr wrote:
ya I think most Protoss players are under a common misconception that they can't break through gateways, but in reality, if they start soon enough they can really force the toss to cancel the gateway. Also WHATS WRONG WITH ME BEING 404.EVAN? WHAT IF THATS NOT MEH?
Lol there is nothing wrong with you being 404.Evan. It's just funny b/c I remember obsing you w/other 404s and you were a complete jerk + bm and I was wondering the aka. Lol now I know.
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probe jump a zealot fyi
oh, and send probes to mine geiser from bottom right of the geiser... they'll go into between they gateways so they can attack the zealot and squeeze it out.
and you can build an assimilator on the geiser which makes it take up less space, so zealots can fit through.
your opponent is a douche... but nice cheese  made me smile
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On May 25 2009 11:19 Resonance wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2009 09:56 Racenilatr wrote:
ya I think most Protoss players are under a common misconception that they can't break through gateways, but in reality, if they start soon enough they can really force the toss to cancel the gateway. Also WHATS WRONG WITH ME BEING 404.EVAN? WHAT IF THATS NOT MEH? Lol there is nothing wrong with you being 404.Evan. It's just funny b/c I remember obsing you w/other 404s and you were a complete jerk + bm and I was wondering the aka. Lol now I know.
Mihai told me to do that so i would blend in wif crowd
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DON'T FUCKING LISTEN TO ANYTHING MIHAI SAYS HOLY SHIT
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Oh gosh civilization 4 music I HATE IT
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On May 25 2009 09:08 404.Nitrogen wrote:
A LOT OF THINGS
haha i lol-ed
5/5 totally delivers best cheese ever!!
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awesome strat definitely gonna have to do that to a friend or 2 later. nice song btw Civ 3/4 w/e the real one with the song is better though with the african singers haha
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
I'm dying a here. This shit is so good.
Yes, he is 404.Evan. Yes, he was BM, apparently because mihai told him to be to "fit in". In reality, that's Mihai trying to convince people to be BM so we have something entertaining to observe.
ROFL. Only listen to Mihai for game advice. Please.
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On May 25 2009 11:32 404.Nitrogen wrote:
DON'T FUCKING LISTEN TO ANYTHING MIHAI SAYS HOLY SHIT
Not true. Keep it up Evan, if your pro like me ull get strat banned for 6 months for no real reason ^^
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you got banned for a 1egit reason. haha I cant use 1 right now because I'm streaming atm
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On May 25 2009 09:21 Kwark wrote:If you can't work it out from this and the description you don't deserve the freewins.
Can't they make an assimilator and then squeeze between the gas/pylon?
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LOL that was awesome, i shall try it one day
thanks :p
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konadora
Singapore66363 Posts
On May 25 2009 09:02 Kwark wrote:
I'll spoil it for you. The correct way to do this is to send one of the starting probes out from the bottom. Place your first pylon 1 pylon size below directly to the left of his gas. Then make a gateway on 10 above the minerals, walling with them so the right side of the gateway is in line with the left side of the pylon. That'll wall above the gas so you can only get in from the right hand side. Make a zealot asap. Then run the probe in and put down the forge above the gas, walling it in completely. There should be three pylon sized gaps within this area. One to the right of the gateway, one between that and the pylon, one between that and the forge. Your gateway should be building a zealot which you will use to harass their mineral line and draw attention. As soon as you can place another pylon above the first one because they will often attack the first to get in and if they drill probes well they can get through one, but not two. Your probe should be kept on the top left corner of the gas so it can build at all three places without moving, if you move it carelessly you can get it trapped. Moment the forge is done place a cannon, if he's trying to break through the forge place it to the right of the gateway then the moment the forge dies build a new one two spaces to the left of the original with the probe. If he tries to break through the pylon then build the cannon to the left of the forge and build a pylon to the left of the cannon, walling it in and providing backup power. You can also replace the pylon to the left of the gas as he kills it if you're fast enough which is highly annoying.
That should give you instant wins up to B or so. Works for me when I get bored. If he counter attacks either cannon yourself or save up 400 then go allin and take his base. His nexus is within cannon range and he's gonna lose his gates and pylons whereas all yours are in his base, you're still ahead.
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