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Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-24 23:43:04
May 24 2009 23:41 GMT
#1
It took me the better part of my morning to perfect this strategy. Appearently Destination is extremely gay PvP wise. This is how this little cheese works
- You have to be at the bottom position
-Building placement needs to be precise
-If Protoss attacks gateways and knows what your doing, your fucked
-If Protoss thinks your doing a standard inbase 2 gate proxy rush and he just adds a second gateway, your fine and in good position to win

Basically what happens is one of the zealots will actually get stuck inbetween gateways and just happens to be right next to the nexus. He will be the only one to attack the nexus lolol. Seems pretty simple, but this shit is pretty damn hard to pulloff


Note: You dont need the pylon on the right to wall the zealot in. I just put it there to power both gateways

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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-24 23:43:33
May 24 2009 23:42 GMT
#2
I know where you got that build from ^^
And btw I'm pretty sure it's possible to do it if they're at the bottom position too.
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Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
May 24 2009 23:43 GMT
#3
I got it from a random Iccup player O_o I believe it was a coincidence that this happened methinks O_O O_o O_o
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-24 23:46:36
May 24 2009 23:44 GMT
#4
On May 25 2009 08:43 Racenilatr wrote:
I got it from a random Iccup player O_o I believe it was a coincidence that this happened methinks O_O O_o O_o

Are you 404.Evan? Because if you are I watched my friend do that to you earlier today ^^
And if you're not then you either got the build from him or someone he did it too.
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Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
May 24 2009 23:46 GMT
#5
LOL Yes I am. haha I was like roflsup when he did that to me, it was so so wierd. I think this DOES have potential to be a good suprise strategy
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
May 24 2009 23:50 GMT
#6


I was laughing so hard when I saw it lol
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
May 24 2009 23:51 GMT
#7
LOL.

I wanna see it get done in proleague.
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Diomedes
Profile Joined March 2009
464 Posts
May 24 2009 23:51 GMT
#8
You almost lost vs a D- protoss. Well done brag blog.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
May 24 2009 23:52 GMT
#9
LAWL YOU'RE 404.Evan!?!
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
May 24 2009 23:55 GMT
#10
404.Evan = Racenilatr k everyone? I didn't feel like typing in 404.Race so I just joined 404 as 404.Evan
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
May 24 2009 23:59 GMT
#11
On May 25 2009 08:51 Diomedes wrote:
You almost lost vs a D- protoss. Well done brag blog.


the building placement and the strategy is what's cool. I think that if you wanted it to be good, you need to 9/9 into 1 zeal+second pylon+ maybe third pylon to make sure you can power the gates. It wouldn't work against a better player though, as they would 9/9 as well, and then as soon as they figured out that they couldn't get in, they would counter with all their probes+ zeals, possibly if they're good with a probe drill.
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ShmotZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States581 Posts
May 25 2009 00:00 GMT
#12
lol such a sexy cheese XD
Ah, computer dating. It's like pimping, but you rarely have to use the phrase "upside your head." - Bender
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
May 25 2009 00:01 GMT
#13
I think I can put 2 gateways down, then stop probe production and then I can get enough money and stuff to build a second pylon to power both gateways after first two zealots start producting. Also ya its the strategy that is the shit. It just took a long long long time to learn how to use this and it was easier to do it at D level because its like playing against a computer except the computer is sort of a nooby human
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44022 Posts
May 25 2009 00:02 GMT
#14
I'll spoil it for you. The correct way to do this is to send one of the starting probes out from the bottom. Place your first pylon 1 pylon size below directly to the left of his gas. Then make a gateway on 10 above the minerals, walling with them so the right side of the gateway is in line with the left side of the pylon. That'll wall above the gas so you can only get in from the right hand side. Make a zealot asap. Then run the probe in and put down the forge above the gas, walling it in completely. There should be three pylon sized gaps within this area. One to the right of the gateway, one between that and the pylon, one between that and the forge. Your gateway should be building a zealot which you will use to harass their mineral line and draw attention. As soon as you can place another pylon above the first one because they will often attack the first to get in and if they drill probes well they can get through one, but not two. Your probe should be kept on the top left corner of the gas so it can build at all three places without moving, if you move it carelessly you can get it trapped. Moment the forge is done place a cannon, if he's trying to break through the forge place it to the right of the gateway then the moment the forge dies build a new one two spaces to the left of the original with the probe. If he tries to break through the pylon then build the cannon to the left of the forge and build a pylon to the left of the cannon, walling it in and providing backup power. You can also replace the pylon to the left of the gas as he kills it if you're fast enough which is highly annoying.

That should give you instant wins up to B or so. Works for me when I get bored. If he counter attacks either cannon yourself or save up 400 then go allin and take his base. His nexus is within cannon range and he's gonna lose his gates and pylons whereas all yours are in his base, you're still ahead.
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Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
May 25 2009 00:05 GMT
#15
Can you provide a replay? tbh I just watched the replay and visually memorised the buildling placement
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
May 25 2009 00:06 GMT
#16
I still can't believe you are 404.Evan
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
May 25 2009 00:07 GMT
#17
On May 25 2009 09:06 Resonance wrote:
I still can't believe you are 404.Evan

Whats wrong with that?
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
May 25 2009 00:08 GMT
#18
A LOT OF THINGS
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
May 25 2009 00:09 GMT
#19
I'm thinking that if he pulled all his probes+zealots to your base, you could immediately add forge while bringing all your zealots (except the trapped one). It'd end up being like your 1/3 zealots + warping cannons + probes vs his 3/5 zealots + probes.
RedTerror
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand742 Posts
May 25 2009 00:13 GMT
#20
On May 25 2009 09:02 Kwark wrote:
I'll spoil it for you. The correct way to do this is to send one of the starting probes out from the bottom. Place your first pylon 1 pylon size below directly to the left of his gas. Then make a gateway on 10 above the minerals, walling with them so the right side of the gateway is in line with the left side of the pylon. That'll wall above the gas so you can only get in from the right hand side. Make a zealot asap. Then run the probe in and put down the forge above the gas, walling it in completely. There should be three pylon sized gaps within this area. One to the right of the gateway, one between that and the pylon, one between that and the forge. Your gateway should be building a zealot which you will use to harass their mineral line and draw attention. As soon as you can place another pylon above the first one because they will often attack the first to get in and if they drill probes well they can get through one, but not two. Your probe should be kept on the top left corner of the gas so it can build at all three places without moving, if you move it carelessly you can get it trapped. Moment the forge is done place a cannon, if he's trying to break through the forge place it to the right of the gateway then the moment the forge dies build a new one two spaces to the left of the original with the probe. If he tries to break through the pylon then build the cannon to the left of the forge and build a pylon to the left of the cannon, walling it in and providing backup power. You can also replace the pylon to the left of the gas as he kills it if you're fast enough which is highly annoying.

That should give you instant wins up to B or so. Works for me when I get bored. If he counter attacks either cannon yourself or save up 400 then go allin and take his base. His nexus is within cannon range and he's gonna lose his gates and pylons whereas all yours are in his base, you're still ahead.


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