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After watching a few of the recent games I've begun to notice a re-occurring trend - a goddamn retarded naming scheme for the players.
Case in point: Luxury vs By.Hydra.
The commentators (and the website) refer to luxury as "Chance". Who the hell decides this? Park Chan Soo is known as either Luxury (his old ID) or Practice (his current ID).
This wouldn't be so bad if he actually used the id...like EVEN IN THE GAMES THEMSELVES
^^ Luxury using the id "practice" during the gom games
Same thing with KTF's stats, commonly referred to as "protoss" in the games.
^^ Stats using the id KTF_Stats, but referred to as "prOtoss" in-game
I'm just hoping tastless or someone will spot this and put and end to it.
 
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Yeah and they spelled Oragn instead of Organ on the game Organ vs. Backho.
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To be fair, sometimes the Korean commentators refer to Luxury as Chance or Chance Park because of the way his name sounds when you say it out loud.
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This has kind of annoyed me as well. I'm assuming it's the PLAYERS who are choosing to go by these names? Why doesn't this occur in other leagues? I mean obviously the Koreans don't really seem to care much about the player ID's rather than their full names, but still, i'ts just odd.
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Yeah i was assuming it was the players too, but they dont even use the id's in game which makes me wonder if they are aware we dont really have anything else to tell us who they are other than their pictures.
Like i had no idea that chance vs hydra was really luxury vs hydra and would never have watched the games if i wasnt lucky enough to recognize luxurys picture
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Yeah, it annoys me too.
Like calling JiHyun "Hul". Who the hell is Hul? Everybody knows him as JiHyun ;]
Same with Piano/Organ and others
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Luxury's official ID is KTF_Practice. We call him Luxury because Practice is retarded, and we don't like to change when we're already so used to one ID.
Just like Iris changing his ID to Berserker...we still call him Iris.
For IDs in games, players can use whatever ID they want. In Korea they go by their actual names, anyway, so it makes little difference. The commentators call them by their name, and if they called Lux "Chance", that was simply referring to his nickname...just like how we call Jaedong or Flash "monster" or whatever.
GOM's English section still needs polishing, though...that definitely can't be contested.
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The only thing that bothered me was that they had the most recent MSL champion playing and completely failed to mention it, even after the terrible name confusion. I mean how little credit can he get. Him and jaedong are the two most recent MSL and OSL champions how you not know that!
(TBFair I have to admit I watched the first game and about 30 seconds of the second before I turned it off, so later on if they mentioned it I can understand)
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The only person to have their name changed successfully was
IPXZERG -> sAviOr
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wow that feathers guy is so bad in real life Timing and Game Sense.
I guess this is not a big deal for me because I am familiar with the faces of players that I care about and barely care about the faces I am not familiar with. I think it is the players who chose there GOM ids when they register though and maybe some of them were joking around or something. I might be wrong.
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On May 04 2009 15:35 feathers wrote:
Funny. Goodbye.
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Melbourne5338 Posts
Stats is down as PrOtoss in the team lists published by KESPA, but has since started using Stats.
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On May 04 2009 16:18 Highways wrote:
The only person to have their name changed successfully was
IPXZERG -> sAviOr
There are others.
ddang -> midas springs to mind.
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that's a picture of a nice apartment tho. very spacious.
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On May 03 2009 18:46 NeVeR wrote:
In my opinion, this is one of the reasons why I think the foreign community should start referring to progamers as the Koreans do, using their real names. You often have players who use multiple IDs, and it can be quite confusing. Honestly, Korean names really aren't that difficult once you get the hang of them.
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thats an apartment? it looks so frigging nice, reminds me of a freshly new place without furnitures.
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bul_T -> doctor k is another name change we seemed to go with.
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On May 04 2009 17:09 SnowFantasy wrote:
bul_T -> doctor k is another name change we seemed to go with.
That's because doctor K is a damn awesome name change. As long as the name change passes the general consensus we usually go with it, TL is the forefront of this type of thing don't you know.
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 Justin used to change his nick once a week or so.
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Shuttle/YoonJoong still tend to both get mentioned. Also iirc, BaBy was called Sun in his debut game then changed to Baby.
Also if you'd consider them:
JulyZerg -> July
iloveoov -> Oov
SlayerS_`BoxeR` -> BoxeR
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On May 04 2009 16:18 AttackZerg wrote:
The only thing that bothered me was that they had the most recent MSL champion playing and completely failed to mention it, even after the terrible name confusion. I mean how little credit can he get. Him and jaedong are the two most recent MSL and OSL champions how you not know that!
(TBFair I have to admit I watched the first game and about 30 seconds of the second before I turned it off, so later on if they mentioned it I can understand)
it's cause they confused fake yellow (Yellow[ArnC]) with Luxury (KTF_Practice)
they're brothers and look so much alike (though one looks younger than the other)
the thing they forgot was Hite (Yellow's team) isn't in S3 so it was technically impossible for him to be there
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On May 04 2009 17:00 NeVeR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2009 18:46 NeVeR wrote:
In my opinion, this is one of the reasons why I think the foreign community should start referring to progamers as the Koreans do, using their real names. You often have players who use multiple IDs, and it can be quite confusing. Honestly, Korean names really aren't that difficult once you get the hang of them.
Bad idea. I don't want to hear the poor Korean players' names get butchered all the time.
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I always figured this was because they register into the tournament under a particular screen name and during game they switch if they feel like it because it doesn't particularly matter when you're in-game as long as they can differentiate between the two players.
For example on a much smaller scale; I know that when I go to a LAN I almost never actually use my real ID, I generally only sport it online.
Playing in person is an opportunity to deviate I suppose because then there's no question of if that's really that certain player playing where as online it would be a question of "Who the hell are you?" if you show up with a different ID.
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On May 04 2009 16:59 lilsusie wrote:
that's a picture of a nice apartment tho. very spacious.
agreed
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Luxury is well known as Park Chance, so figuring out a zerg player from KTF with the name Chance is Luxury isn't that hard.
Korean don't really care about these nicks since they call their players with their korean names, rarely by the nick. And if you just use TLPD for the players, figuring out who the players are won't be very hard.
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On May 04 2009 17:00 NeVeR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2009 18:46 NeVeR wrote:
In my opinion, this is one of the reasons why I think the foreign community should start referring to progamers as the Koreans do, using their real names. You often have players who use multiple IDs, and it can be quite confusing. Honestly, Korean names really aren't that difficult once you get the hang of them.
Flash  LuCifer
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On May 04 2009 21:51 iCCup.d(O.o)a wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2009 17:00 NeVeR wrote:On May 03 2009 18:46 NeVeR wrote:
In my opinion, this is one of the reasons why I think the foreign community should start referring to progamers as the Koreans do, using their real names. You often have players who use multiple IDs, and it can be quite confusing. Honestly, Korean names really aren't that difficult once you get the hang of them. Flash LuCifer
That's really not the problem since Korean commentators don't call them by their IDs, they call them by their Korean names. I seem to call they differentiated them by calling them Terran Lee Young Ho and Protoss Lee Young Ho.
And yes I don't want to see names butchered. 
On May 04 2009 19:10 o3.power91 wrote:
Shuttle/YoonJoong still tend to both get mentioned. Also iirc, BaBy was called Sun in his debut game then changed to Baby.
Also if you'd consider them:
JulyZerg -> July
iloveoov -> Oov
SlayerS_`BoxeR` -> BoxeR
I still think all of them use their respective IDs, they just switch off with minor differences when they feel like it. I've seen Boxer use SlayerS_'BoxeR' one day and then a week later he was using BOXER and then another week later he went back to his original ID.
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It's one thing if they're not famous yet, and have a stupid ID and change it to a better ID. But it does really bug me when someone who's well known and has a cool ID like Forgg or Luxury decides to change to something stupid (although I kinda like the ID Chance, especially since his name is
chan su.
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I found it funny that during season 1 they had this map with a Korean name (폭풍의언덕) and translated it to Wuthering Heights, which makes absolutely no sense. Think it was the fault of some retard on TL who started it calling that way for some reason.
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On May 04 2009 19:37 PH wrote:
Bad idea. I don't want to hear the poor Korean players' names get butchered all the time.
On May 03 2009 18:46 NeVeR wrote:
Honestly, Korean names really aren't that difficult once you get the hang of them.
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On May 04 2009 19:18 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2009 16:18 AttackZerg wrote:
The only thing that bothered me was that they had the most recent MSL champion playing and completely failed to mention it, even after the terrible name confusion. I mean how little credit can he get. Him and jaedong are the two most recent MSL and OSL champions how you not know that!
(TBFair I have to admit I watched the first game and about 30 seconds of the second before I turned it off, so later on if they mentioned it I can understand) it's cause they confused fake yellow (Yellow[ArnC]) with Luxury (KTF_Practice) they're brothers and look so much alike (though one looks younger than the other) the thing they forgot was Hite (Yellow's team) isn't in S3 so it was technically impossible for him to be there
I fully understand the mix up BUT it is not excusable to not know which player is playing AND even once it is figured out still failing to talk about the fact that he is the second strongest zerg in the world right now and just won the msl in really entertaining fashion.
I mean in terms of entertainment value luxury vs leta (not finals) was better then jaedong vs fantasy.
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They say "Chance" to the player we know as "Luxury"/"practice"?
never heard of Chance lol.
Anyway i also thing we should use their real names. its same in soccer and stuff.
eSport is a sport and real names are just more into the reality, which is what we want
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