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On February 17 2009 13:44 SerpentFlame wrote:
Assuming most of you are under 30, wait until you turn 55 when all the associated health problems kick in. You might be singing a different tune =P, and trust me, I've seen enough families to know that it's not pleasant.
Anyways, I think we should give the OP a little more respect. The OP mentioned how he knew people who do substance abuse, which is certainly a fair reason to dislike the whole joint in general. A smoke now and then might not be the know-all end-all horror, but abusing drugs definitely destroys its fair share of lives (I at least have my share of friends who got into it and are pretty much lost in life forever), although it's not a fair way to characterize everyone who does alcohol or smoking.
Its' one thing to do drugs by yourself and another to get others into doing drugs (like getting friends over for a smoke), and that line can get pretty thin.
i think its safe to say most people who do any kind of drug here smoke weed, which, let's be honest doesn't ruin many lives.
edit: unless you're one of those dumb people who call weed the "gateway drug"
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On February 17 2009 13:44 SerpentFlame wrote:
Assuming most of you are under 30, wait until you turn 55 when all the associated health problems kick in. You might be singing a different tune =P, and trust me, I've seen enough families to know that it's not pleasant.
Anyways, I think we should give the OP a little more respect. The OP mentioned how he knew people who do substance abuse, which is certainly a fair reason to dislike the whole joint in general. A smoke now and then might not be the know-all end-all horror, but abusing drugs definitely destroys its fair share of lives (I at least have my share of friends who got into it and are pretty much lost in life forever), although it's not a fair way to characterize everyone who does alcohol or smoking.
Its' one thing to do drugs by yourself and another to get others into doing drugs (like getting friends over for a smoke), and that line can get pretty thin.
You know, that reminds me of something else. Wouldn't be surprised if a good deal of my dislike for drugs stems from the fact that many of my friends stopped being able to have fun doing things without drugs or alcohol. It got weird trying to hang out with them and far less enjoyable to me. I guess I missed late night video gaming and such.
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On February 17 2009 13:50 Phyre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2009 13:44 SerpentFlame wrote:
Assuming most of you are under 30, wait until you turn 55 when all the associated health problems kick in. You might be singing a different tune =P, and trust me, I've seen enough families to know that it's not pleasant.
Anyways, I think we should give the OP a little more respect. The OP mentioned how he knew people who do substance abuse, which is certainly a fair reason to dislike the whole joint in general. A smoke now and then might not be the know-all end-all horror, but abusing drugs definitely destroys its fair share of lives (I at least have my share of friends who got into it and are pretty much lost in life forever), although it's not a fair way to characterize everyone who does alcohol or smoking.
Its' one thing to do drugs by yourself and another to get others into doing drugs (like getting friends over for a smoke), and that line can get pretty thin. You know, that reminds me of something else. Wouldn't be surprised if a good deal of my dislike for drugs stems from the fact that many of my friends stopped being able to have fun doing things without drugs or alcohol. It got weird trying to hang out with them and far less enjoyable to me. I guess I missed late night video gaming and such.
See, that's pretty understandable. Have you at least tried to hang out with them while they're doing that stuff? It's probably a bit harder with drinking, but it's not like people do anything spectacular that you can't be a part of when they're getting high, and it's not like they're that far out of it. You can just sit there and laugh at the stupid shit they say.
If they're cool people, they'll probably still want to hang and hopefully aren't retarded when they get fucked up.
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This debate reminds me of some sort of special Olympics debate, even if u win and we are all low life drug addicts. Your still retarded.
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On February 17 2009 13:56 Elementy wrote:
This debate reminds me of some sort of special Olympics debate, even if u win and we are all low life drug addicts. Your still retarded.
nobody is debating anything
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On February 17 2009 13:56 Elementy wrote:
This debate reminds me of some sort of special Olympics debate, even if u win and we are all low life drug addicts. Your still retarded.
hey you're 13 years old or really really ignorant
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On February 17 2009 13:55 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2009 13:50 Phyre wrote:On February 17 2009 13:44 SerpentFlame wrote:
Assuming most of you are under 30, wait until you turn 55 when all the associated health problems kick in. You might be singing a different tune =P, and trust me, I've seen enough families to know that it's not pleasant.
Anyways, I think we should give the OP a little more respect. The OP mentioned how he knew people who do substance abuse, which is certainly a fair reason to dislike the whole joint in general. A smoke now and then might not be the know-all end-all horror, but abusing drugs definitely destroys its fair share of lives (I at least have my share of friends who got into it and are pretty much lost in life forever), although it's not a fair way to characterize everyone who does alcohol or smoking.
Its' one thing to do drugs by yourself and another to get others into doing drugs (like getting friends over for a smoke), and that line can get pretty thin. You know, that reminds me of something else. Wouldn't be surprised if a good deal of my dislike for drugs stems from the fact that many of my friends stopped being able to have fun doing things without drugs or alcohol. It got weird trying to hang out with them and far less enjoyable to me. I guess I missed late night video gaming and such. See, that's pretty understandable. Have you at least tried to hang out with them while they're doing that stuff? It's probably a bit harder with drinking, but it's not like people do anything spectacular that you can't be a part of when they're getting high, and it's not like they're that far out of it. You can just sit there and laugh at the stupid shit they say. If they're cool people, they'll probably still want to hang and hopefully aren't retarded when they get fucked up.
Yeah, I've hung out with them on quite a few occasions when they've been either drinking or smoking. Honestly, its somewhat entertaining at first to laugh at some of the stupid things they do. When they get high, all they want to do is sit around in a stupor. When they drink they either just sit around and drink or play beer pong. After the first few times it just isn't as amusing and gets boring. While they may find something random like an object in the room or a certain phrase utterly hilarious I obviously don't. And I'm not sure I want to alter myself so that I do.
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On February 17 2009 14:33 Phyre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2009 13:55 Jibba wrote:On February 17 2009 13:50 Phyre wrote:On February 17 2009 13:44 SerpentFlame wrote:
Assuming most of you are under 30, wait until you turn 55 when all the associated health problems kick in. You might be singing a different tune =P, and trust me, I've seen enough families to know that it's not pleasant.
Anyways, I think we should give the OP a little more respect. The OP mentioned how he knew people who do substance abuse, which is certainly a fair reason to dislike the whole joint in general. A smoke now and then might not be the know-all end-all horror, but abusing drugs definitely destroys its fair share of lives (I at least have my share of friends who got into it and are pretty much lost in life forever), although it's not a fair way to characterize everyone who does alcohol or smoking.
Its' one thing to do drugs by yourself and another to get others into doing drugs (like getting friends over for a smoke), and that line can get pretty thin. You know, that reminds me of something else. Wouldn't be surprised if a good deal of my dislike for drugs stems from the fact that many of my friends stopped being able to have fun doing things without drugs or alcohol. It got weird trying to hang out with them and far less enjoyable to me. I guess I missed late night video gaming and such. See, that's pretty understandable. Have you at least tried to hang out with them while they're doing that stuff? It's probably a bit harder with drinking, but it's not like people do anything spectacular that you can't be a part of when they're getting high, and it's not like they're that far out of it. You can just sit there and laugh at the stupid shit they say. If they're cool people, they'll probably still want to hang and hopefully aren't retarded when they get fucked up. Yeah, I've hung out with them on quite a few occasions when they've been either drinking or smoking. Honestly, its somewhat entertaining at first to laugh at some of the stupid things they do. When they get high, all they want to do is sit around in a stupor. When they drink they either just sit around and drink or play beer pong. After the first few times it just isn't as amusing and gets boring. While they may find something random like an object in the room or a certain phrase utterly hilarious I obviously don't. And I'm not sure I want to alter myself so that I do.
if you don't want to be high or drunk with your friends just make new friends who don't smoke or drink, it must be excruciatingly boring to be sober around people who aren't
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On February 17 2009 14:38 Aux1 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2009 14:33 Phyre wrote:On February 17 2009 13:55 Jibba wrote:On February 17 2009 13:50 Phyre wrote:On February 17 2009 13:44 SerpentFlame wrote:
Assuming most of you are under 30, wait until you turn 55 when all the associated health problems kick in. You might be singing a different tune =P, and trust me, I've seen enough families to know that it's not pleasant.
Anyways, I think we should give the OP a little more respect. The OP mentioned how he knew people who do substance abuse, which is certainly a fair reason to dislike the whole joint in general. A smoke now and then might not be the know-all end-all horror, but abusing drugs definitely destroys its fair share of lives (I at least have my share of friends who got into it and are pretty much lost in life forever), although it's not a fair way to characterize everyone who does alcohol or smoking.
Its' one thing to do drugs by yourself and another to get others into doing drugs (like getting friends over for a smoke), and that line can get pretty thin. You know, that reminds me of something else. Wouldn't be surprised if a good deal of my dislike for drugs stems from the fact that many of my friends stopped being able to have fun doing things without drugs or alcohol. It got weird trying to hang out with them and far less enjoyable to me. I guess I missed late night video gaming and such. See, that's pretty understandable. Have you at least tried to hang out with them while they're doing that stuff? It's probably a bit harder with drinking, but it's not like people do anything spectacular that you can't be a part of when they're getting high, and it's not like they're that far out of it. You can just sit there and laugh at the stupid shit they say. If they're cool people, they'll probably still want to hang and hopefully aren't retarded when they get fucked up. Yeah, I've hung out with them on quite a few occasions when they've been either drinking or smoking. Honestly, its somewhat entertaining at first to laugh at some of the stupid things they do. When they get high, all they want to do is sit around in a stupor. When they drink they either just sit around and drink or play beer pong. After the first few times it just isn't as amusing and gets boring. While they may find something random like an object in the room or a certain phrase utterly hilarious I obviously don't. And I'm not sure I want to alter myself so that I do. if you don't want to be high or drunk with your friends just make new friends who don't smoke or drink, it must be excruciatingly boring to be sober around people who aren't
That's asking a lot lol. At least in Canada, it's completely a drug culture. It's easier to ask people to hang out and not do drugs with you once in awhile than to find the 1 in 1000 people who stay away from them completely.
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i accidentally the whole bottle am i going to die
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i hate weed cuz it makes my brain move faster than my body.
and so i start thinking in all these weird circles and whattheFUCK i start thinking of some weird shit and then i tell myself to move my hand and there's like a 4 second delay!
seriously, being high is like playing with bad lag.
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Heh. DARE. So useless. I recall most studies essentially say DARE does not work.
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Phyre, I have a similar amount of experience with drugs and alcohol, and I used to feel the same way you do about drugs. Then I realized that marijuana is actually a wonderous plant which can do a lot of good, and the drug war is not about public health but a number of other things.
Now I don't think drugs are fundamentally a bad thing. I think before I was biased was not coming to my own conclusions about it. That does not mean I think people should do drugs, generally they shouldn't.
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I don't drink or smoke anything, but a lot of my friends do. I just never really had the desire to do them. I don't really mind when my friends drink and smoke and such, although yeah, sometimes when they get really high they get BORING AS FUCK.
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I'm just like the OP. I pretty much hate drug usage for no apparent reason. I think a big part of it is the fact that I am a completely original person who doesn't follow the crowd. That coupled with the idea that drugs are sort of the epitome of peer pressure makes me really disrespect people who use them.
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On February 17 2009 15:17 NatsuTerran wrote:
I'm just like the OP.....I am a completely original person who doesn't follow the crowd.
I think I see a problem with your statement 
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On February 17 2009 15:38 CDRdude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2009 15:17 NatsuTerran wrote:
I'm just like the OP.....I am a completely original person who doesn't follow the crowd. I think I see a problem with your statement
i would hardly consider agreeing with a single person "following the crowd."
anyways, i've never done drugs and i never really plan to, but i really didn't see any difference in my friends behavior when they started smoking weed. most of my friends do and they haven't really changed at all. and i really couldn't care less if they do/don't, as long as they don't do anything dumb while they are high.
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On February 17 2009 13:46 Descent wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2009 13:37 Luddite wrote:On February 17 2009 13:19 Avidkeystamper wrote:On February 17 2009 12:48 Luddite wrote:
if you've never tried it, you really can't judge since you have no idea what it's like. Most juries couldn't judge murderers then. The difference is quantitative rather than qualitative. Of course I've never murdered someone, but I've hurt people before, and I know what death means, so I can imagine what it's like to hurt someone until they die. Whereas if you've never altered you mind with drugs, there's just no comparison. I guess the closest you could come would be like drinking a lot of coffee... but coffee is completely the opposite of alcohol. Imagine if a 10 year old said "I've never even masturbated, but I think that sex sounds terrible." How the eff would he know? I think Avidkeystamper's post is correct, since any 10 year old human can still form a rational or irrational opinion based off of what experiences he or she has had in regards to the topic, in this case sex, from any indirect sources, e.g. a movie. Your statement makes it sound as if nothing can be formulated without prior experience, yet your example seems contradictory. Creating a posteriori knowledge about murder by hurting people is similar to how the 10 year old can formulate his or her own opinion based upon gained insights, no? Edit: Typo. =( Edit 2: This isn't very coherent...I think, in short, what is the difference between formulating an opinion of murder based off of hurting people and formulating an opinion of sex based off of similar indirect exposures? Edit 3: Edited the main reply, for clarity, and hopefully, for coherence.
would you trust a 10 year old's opinion on a murder case? because that's a much more apt analogy for someone who has never had any personal experience with these substances talking about them or being judgemental toward people who use them
no one is pretending he's incapable of having an opinion
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