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EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
December 03 2008 15:21 GMT
#1
So I've been into metal for a while already but never bothered to learn what they really are. With this I mean like, their subgenres.
I just noticed that there is something called thrash metal, black metal, speed metal, etc (yes I know I'm a dumbass XD) and would like to learn what is that.
However, I'm finding difficult to just surf on the web and type those names and get some retarded or confusing crap.
So I'll ask the experts here to maybe tell me a little explanation of what each subgenre is and probably post one of your favorite songs that relate to it (requirement is: it's got to be badass!)
Thanks =)

*
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 03 2008 15:27 GMT
#2
Haha you realize you just asked one of the most impossible questions to answer ever?
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Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
December 03 2008 15:29 GMT
#3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heavy_metal_genres

no probs
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EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
December 03 2008 15:36 GMT
#4
Holy shit!

Alright, them I'll have to narrow down my question a little bit more XDDD (holy fuck!)

I want to find this subgenre I love a lot but just can't figure out what it is. Here are some examples:


meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-03 15:48:28
December 03 2008 15:36 GMT
#5
On December 04 2008 00:27 Plexa wrote:
Haha you realize you just asked one of the most impossible questions to answer ever?


True.

However, all you need to know is that Metallica is thrash metal; Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath is heavy metal; Venom, Bathory and some other bands are black metal and everything else are sub-genres and somehow inspired by the aforementioned.

My two cents anyway.

Edit:

On December 04 2008 00:36 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Holy shit!

Alright, them I'll have to narrow down my question a little bit more XDDD (holy fuck!)

I want to find this subgenre I love a lot but just can't figure out what it is. Here are some examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brRvCP2xZSo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIeD49G4Pp0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYlZAI2K0eU

First one is nu(new)-metal and is, with right, considered gay and awful. Second one is some sort of death/doom metal or grindcore even. The last one sounds like a slower type of thrash metal.. dunno.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-03 15:52:36
December 03 2008 15:44 GMT
#6
On December 04 2008 00:27 Plexa wrote:
Haha you realize you just asked one of the most impossible questions to answer ever?


pretty much.

check wikipedia and metal-archives.com

edit:
On December 04 2008 00:36 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Holy shit!

Alright, them I'll have to narrow down my question a little bit more XDDD (holy fuck!)

I want to find this subgenre I love a lot but just can't figure out what it is. Here are some examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brRvCP2xZSo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYlZAI2K0eU


i only listened to the second link, but that's some death metal right there.
r.i.p. Bud Shank May 27, 1926 - April 2, 2009
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
December 03 2008 15:57 GMT
#7
Addendum, this video helped me through life:



Haha.. weddings are awesome. And that bald guy looks like my boss..
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
December 03 2008 15:57 GMT
#8


RURRRRRRRRRR
r.i.p. Bud Shank May 27, 1926 - April 2, 2009
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
December 03 2008 16:04 GMT
#9
On December 04 2008 00:57 meathook wrote:
Addendum, this video helped me through life:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7oCDbDebDA

Haha.. weddings are awesome. And that bald guy looks like my boss..



ROFLMAO
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AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
December 03 2008 16:10 GMT
#10
On December 04 2008 00:57 meathook wrote:
Addendum, this video helped me through life:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7oCDbDebDA

Haha.. weddings are awesome. And that bald guy looks like my boss..


this is great hahaha
r.i.p. Bud Shank May 27, 1926 - April 2, 2009
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
December 03 2008 16:19 GMT
#11
I've always thought all those metal subgenres are retarded, most subgenres have like 1 band or something anyway just call all of it metal.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
December 03 2008 16:29 GMT
#12
Try some Obituary if you like Death Metal. Other stuff includes Cannibal Corpse, Death, Morbid Angel, Malevolent Creation, Autopsy, Pestilence. Death metal splits into a softer melodic death which includes Dark Tranquility and OLDER In Flames. Technical/Progressive Death Metal is another split that includes Atheist, Necrophagist, Nile, and Opeth.

Obituary- Slowly we Rot


Thrash metal includes the early work of the most popular metal band of all time, Metallica, but it was before the black album. Better thrash comes off with stuff like Megadeth, Sacred Reich, Artillery, Testament, Overkill, Slayer, Sodom, Kreator, Destruction, and there's some weird stuff like Merciless which is Death/Thrash.

Newer stuff can be like Trivium which is like metalcore thrash.

Be careful with thrash though, because most bands have albums that aren't considered Thrash. the best example is probably Metallica with Load, Reload, St. Anger, and the black album.

Overkill- Elimination
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HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
December 03 2008 17:56 GMT
#13
I love the instrumentals from almost all metal genres, but I can't stand most metal vocalists (why is death metal so popular ? I really don't get it.)
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
December 03 2008 18:05 GMT
#14
I like that type of metal that has extremely deep (EXTREMELY) bass/guitars/etc pretty much like in the second link I posted above.
Is that considered death metal?
Post more like this! :D
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
December 03 2008 18:06 GMT
#15
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EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
December 03 2008 18:35 GMT
#16
What would you guys say about this?



:D
AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
December 03 2008 18:40 GMT
#17
is that ashley olsen
r.i.p. Bud Shank May 27, 1926 - April 2, 2009
Dead
Profile Joined November 2008
71 Posts
December 03 2008 18:46 GMT
#18
For me best is classic heavy metal (like Black Sabbath) and every form of good black metal (and I mean first and second way - no gay Dimmu Borgir and Cradle Of Filth).

Heavy:
Black Sabbath - Paranoid, Iron Man, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and many more.
AC/DC - Highway To Hell, Back In Black

Black:
Mercyful Fate - Evil
King Diamond - Sleepless Nights
Venom - In League With Satan, Black Metal, Welcome To Hell
Bathory - One Rode To Asa Bay, Raise The Dead
Gorgoroth - Incipit Satan, A World To Win
MayheM - Freezing Moon
Burzum - Dunkelheit, War, Lost Wisdom
Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
Immortal - Sons Of Northern Darkness, In My Kingdom Cold

All songs above are totally badass. These are only few examples of how good classical heavy metal/black metal really is. There are a lot more. I suggest for you to start from Gorgoroth - A World To Win. Then try rest. <3 Black Metal. FTW.

P.S. Morbid - Funeral Winds, Disgusting Semla
Beware Firebat Rush~!!!
Dead
Profile Joined November 2008
71 Posts
December 03 2008 19:12 GMT
#19
There are two great things in black metal. Euronymous said something like that: in black metal you have best music quality and most interesting personalities. And this is definitely true. Musically this is like tremolo picking, fast drumms sections and specific kind of singing (with satanic lyrics). But this is not like golden rule that everyone must follow. There are black metal bands that have standard "clean" vocal, especially in first wave (King Diamond, Venom) and there are bands with standard slow drums and even heavy-metal like riffs. This must be evil, atmospherical - musical form is pretty much dependant on artist. Tremolo picking etc. are just commonly used.
Beware Firebat Rush~!!!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
December 04 2008 02:43 GMT
#20
On December 04 2008 03:06 boesthius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2008 01:29 FragKrag wrote:
Try some Obituary if you like Death Metal. Other stuff includes Cannibal Corpse, Death, Morbid Angel, Malevolent Creation, Autopsy, Pestilence. Death metal splits into a softer melodic death which includes Dark Tranquility and OLDER In Flames. Technical/Progressive Death Metal is another split that includes Atheist, Necrophagist, Nile, and Opeth.

Obituary- Slowly we Rot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uh3aeYwrS0

Thrash metal includes the early work of the most popular metal band of all time, Metallica, but it was before the black album. Better thrash comes off with stuff like Megadeth, Sacred Reich, Artillery, Testament, Overkill, Slayer, Sodom, Kreator, Destruction, and there's some weird stuff like Merciless which is Death/Thrash.

Newer stuff can be like Trivium which is like metalcore thrash.

Be careful with thrash though, because most bands have albums that aren't considered Thrash. the best example is probably Metallica with Load, Reload, St. Anger, and the black album.

Overkill- Elimination
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoMCka5bBdU

Newer stuff can be like Trivium which is like metalcore thrash. - ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Listen to all of the stuff he mentioned except trivium .


Trivium does suck, but it is one of the best metalcore, I guess.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
xxsaznpride
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States506 Posts
December 04 2008 04:47 GMT
#21
All That Remains is metalcore, no? I refuse to put Trivium and ATR in the same category. Every Trivium song I've ever heard is trash, whereas ATR had me from song one (The Air that I Breathe... which isn't even one of their best songs, imo).

I think the third video in OP is "Ruin" by Lamb of God, purely because it's green and the drummer looks like Adler right before Blythe says "this is the iron hand // this is the revolution" or something like that. Oh, god, I miss their old sound. The new stuff is okay (wtf is Redneck doing as a single when Requiem and Descending were so much better), but Gospel and BtP were amazing.

Listened to some "classic heavy metal"... It's kinda meh to me. I can dig Pantera, and I can probably tolerate all that other stuff, but my dad used to always play Black Sabbath... geh.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
December 04 2008 04:49 GMT
#22
Pantera is what gave birth to Limp Bizkit, and Linkin Park. Fuck Pantera.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 04 2008 05:03 GMT
#23
On December 04 2008 13:49 FragKrag wrote:
Pantera is what gave birth to Limp Bizkit, and Linkin Park. Fuck Pantera.


wat
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
December 04 2008 05:38 GMT
#24
On December 04 2008 14:03 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2008 13:49 FragKrag wrote:
Pantera is what gave birth to Limp Bizkit, and Linkin Park. Fuck Pantera.


wat


lol
r.i.p. Bud Shank May 27, 1926 - April 2, 2009
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
December 04 2008 06:08 GMT
#25
limp bizkit toured with Pantera. Linkin Park stole limp bizkit shit
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
December 04 2008 06:12 GMT
#26
On December 04 2008 03:05 EsX_Raptor wrote:
I like that type of metal that has extremely deep (EXTREMELY) bass/guitars/etc pretty much like in the second link I posted above.
Is that considered death metal?
Post more like this! :D


Well deep bass/guitar usually = doom metal; some death metal has it too. Thick tones :o

maybe you'd like "bolt thrower" (named after warhammer lol!)
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
December 04 2008 07:07 GMT
#27
On December 04 2008 13:49 FragKrag wrote:
Pantera is what gave birth to Limp Bizkit, and Linkin Park. Fuck Pantera.


dont talk about things you don't understand
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-04 23:18:49
December 04 2008 23:16 GMT
#28
On December 04 2008 13:49 FragKrag wrote:
Pantera is what gave birth to Limp Bizkit, and Linkin Park. Fuck Pantera.


holy shit, you lose



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-> if you want a laugh just look up any Adam D. video on youtube, this guy is so awesome I want to have his babies
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-05 01:46:30
December 05 2008 01:45 GMT
#29
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 05 2008 02:28 GMT
#30
btbam sucks
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Beardfish
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States525 Posts
December 05 2008 02:43 GMT
#31
On December 05 2008 11:28 Mindcrime wrote:
metalcore sucks

boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
December 05 2008 03:44 GMT
#32
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-05 06:02:24
December 05 2008 05:59 GMT
#33
Death/Thrash for me kthx

btw, the last video you posted; "Flyleaf" is that wannabe grunge stuff.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 05 2008 06:47 GMT
#34
On December 05 2008 12:44 boesthius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2008 11:28 Mindcrime wrote:
btbam sucks

only band with talent in the core genre imo


They have talent, but they still make music that is, for the most part, shitty.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
December 05 2008 08:47 GMT
#35
On December 04 2008 03:35 EsX_Raptor wrote:
What would you guys say about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB5fV_Pewlg

:D


flyleaf isn't metal ;x
@QxGDarkCell ._.
yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
December 05 2008 10:31 GMT
#36
On December 04 2008 03:35 EsX_Raptor wrote:
What would you guys say about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB5fV_Pewlg

:D


bubblegum pop or trl pop ;]
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