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DhakhaR
United Kingdom721 Posts
Every Tuesday me and about 7 others meet at a mutual friends house for a poker game. anyway, long story short I really don't know how to play a mid pocket pair in any position. The table has a fair mix of aggressive and passive players. please don't link me to liquid poker (even though I just did in my own post :o ) or say something like "play the player not the hand" ty    | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
edit: On a more serious note, I'm bad at poker so all I can really say is gl getting good advice here. :o | ||
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renegade_zerg
Korea (South)525 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
How many big blinds deep are you playing? What has happened before your turn to act (ie did someone raise? did someone limp? etc) How many players are you/what position are you in...... Like really, your question is waaaaaaaaaaay too vague ;p To make a starcraft analogy.. It's like asking "what do I do after I fast expand?" without specifying your race, the matchup, or what you've seen your opponent do. | ||
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DhakhaR
United Kingdom721 Posts
the problem i have is that if i call in an early position and gee the flop theres almost certainly gonna be one or two over cards in which case im probably behind (providing most people would call the BB too). If I raise and get called I'm probably behind, at best I'm in a coinflip. assume im not in too much danger of being blinded out: Should i fold to any raise infront of me? what should i do if im first to act? edit: oh crap that was my 500th post. | ||
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renegade_zerg
Korea (South)525 Posts
- This is up to how you have read how this player has been playing his hands, how big of a bet he made, if he bet pre-flop, what the flop looks like and on and on and on. This is another impossible question. That's why pros are pros, they have these instincts. If you watch Daniel Negreanu play, he a lot of times calls the other players hand to the number and suit. what should i do if im first to act? if you check with over cards on the board, you're either trapping or showing signs of weakness. Most likely the other guy is gonna think you're weak and bet.. then you'll be back to problem number 1. You should raise to see how strong of a hand you really have.. with 2 over cards on the board and a check raise to you, he probably has you beat. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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renegade_zerg
Korea (South)525 Posts
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Taurent
Canada401 Posts
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DhakhaR
United Kingdom721 Posts
I think im going to try and get to the flop as cheaply as possible and hope for a set or 3 undercards then go from there. Taurent, the reason i asked on TL rather than LP is because i have no experience with LP, i dont know the user base, the forum rules/system/etiquette etc, whereas i have a fair idea of the TL ones. Asking for anything on GG.net is foolish. | ||
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HighTimes
Taiwan342 Posts
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DhakhaR
United Kingdom721 Posts
On November 17 2008 20:31 DhakhaR wrote: Every Tuesday me and about 7 others meet at a mutual friends house for a poker game. On November 18 2008 00:59 HighTimes wrote: intrawebz microstakes poker is simple... | ||
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HighTimes
Taiwan342 Posts
And that other play then setmining is depentand on reads.. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
TT+ is standard raise | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14904 Posts
On November 18 2008 01:30 Chef wrote: Go all in. On November 18 2008 01:40 Chef wrote: In fact, your only plays should be limp, flat call, and fold. Never bet or raise. ????????? | ||
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SpiralArchitect
United States2116 Posts
I think you would get much better replies if you were to describe a game that you and your friends have played before. Maybe pick one hand and tell us how you played it. Otherwise your just going to get a bunch of weird comments, like Chefs. | ||
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
On November 18 2008 01:31 ToT)OjKa( wrote: 22-99 just limp early game i'd say, maybe call a small raise with 77+ TT+ is standard raise | ||
cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
On November 17 2008 22:10 Taurent wrote: asking poker questions on TL.net instead of asking them on LP.net is like asking for a starcraft strategy on GG.net instead of TL.net lol | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
On November 18 2008 01:30 Chef wrote: Go all in. w/ e han timing. Just act like you don't know shit, that's how I beat my friends. Oh, but you've played them already right... | ||
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Kami
United States127 Posts
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edzwoo
United States469 Posts
First of all, are you playing cash game or tournament style? It really does make a difference. You say your friends are a mix of passive and aggressive, but you didn't mention if they were solid or not. Are they bad where they would be willing to go allin with any top pair? If you're playing cash game and your friends aren't very solid, I would limp/call to hit a set and stack someone when I hit a set. In middle position, I would raise unless the majority of your aggressive friends are to your left, or you have a tell that someone likes their hand. If the pot has been raised I flat call to hit a set. Late position is the same as middle position except I will always raise with it if the pot is unopened. If you're playing a tournament style, how many big blinds do you start with? If it's 75 like most online rooms or less, I would fold from early position when the blinds are low, assuming you raise the blinds after a certain point. You probably shouldn't raise your mid pps ever when there's an aggressive guy to your left, because he might just spew your equity by going crazy. I will, however, boss around passive players. | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
Or make a big raise in late position and hope everyone folds or it's 1v1. Probably fold early raises. Esp if it's one of the lower middle pairs. Definitely fold to reraises unless you have a read. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
Call any standard raise just to flop a set 18% chance. Don't call any re-raised or highraised pots preflop though. Sounds like you have a really action table where 4+ people are in every hand preflop, if that's the case be careful even if you make an overpair on a raggedy board. | ||
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