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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 11:48:36
September 10 2008 11:18 GMT
#1
so, i usually type like this on the internet: my rule is fuck capitalization, but basic punctuation and spelling need to be maintained unless i'm doing an awsum abbv. however, it's just mind boggling how some people type so goddamn formally! is this a standard i somehow missed? are these typers simply presenting a mask to us, using the vilest of slang when they talk to their buddies? do these people read our (my) posts everywhere and think i'm some classless swine, educated and uncouth? is the internet really so serious?!?!?!

in an effort to further my understanding of these strange SIS (Serious Internet Persons), i will begin typing like them in every post and on irc for an entire week, beginning from when i wake up in four hours. if you are a slob in your internet rompings feel free to join me, and if you are an SIS please tell why you type like an asshole.

note: i'm not talking about newsposts and shit on tlnet's frontpage, i'm talking about random posts like: "Why yes, I do enjoy a pickle nestled firmly in my hamburgers; the flavour and texture added transcends that of those sandwiches eaten by peasants."

note2, added after reading the first few replies: Please notice that an SIS is not simply someone who uses capitalization - it's people who make posts with excessive lead-ins to sentences, refusals to say a few bad words, excessive punctuation to the degree of punctuating acronyms ("roflmao."), etc. Do not be so quick to take offense, my delightful readers.

*****
Moderatorhttps://soundcloud.com/castlesmusic/sets/oak
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
September 10 2008 11:22 GMT
#2
I have decided to embark with you on this righteous quest of self-discovery.
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
September 10 2008 11:22 GMT
#3
Wait.. using capitalization makes me an asshole?
parasite
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
September 10 2008 11:24 GMT
#4
Criticizing someone for using proper english is stupid.
Oh no
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 11:29:27
September 10 2008 11:25 GMT
#5
On September 10 2008 20:22 DownMaxX wrote:
Wait.. using capitalization makes me an asshole?
It gives off the impression that you're too uptight about little things like capitalization to have any fun. "Hey, don't invite the guy that guy that types properly! He's a stick in the mud, a real wet blanket!" It's the same reason no one likes Chill.
On September 10 2008 20:24 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Criticizing someone for using proper english is stupid.
It's exactly this tone that makes you look like a jerk. It's as if you're saying, why should those vile beasts criticize me!? I, a noble scholar, have standards to uphold! Do not bring me down to your level!
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 10 2008 11:27 GMT
#6
I'm just used to type with capitalization. I don't think there's something wrong with it. Actually in English nearly all of the words don't have a capital letter. You should write German and realise thats a pain in the ass. For example a German sentence:

Heute ist das Wetter echt schön, um einfach mal raus zu gehen und das Leben zu genießen.
-> The weather is really nice today to go out and enjoy life.

SEE?-_-
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
September 10 2008 11:28 GMT
#7
lol i never pay attention to that shit
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
September 10 2008 11:28 GMT
#8
On September 10 2008 20:24 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Criticizing someone for using proper english is stupid.


Agreed. It's just as bad as the idiots who post just to say "it's THEIR not there" or "it's spelt XXXX, not XXYX." I don't fucking understand those people. Do they get kicks out of correcting the literacy of a random stranger on the internet? Who the fuck cares!!? It's the Internet. As long as the meaning is clear and it's not complete txtmsg garbage, why bother.....
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
September 10 2008 11:29 GMT
#9
Also, what indeed is up with those fellows that selectively capitalize letters in their sentences? I will provide an example: "today I played a Game of starcraft on Iccup, and i went zero and Seven simply Tank Rushing his zerglings." It isn't even consistent! If only there was a internet standard for typing, both efficient and aesthetically pleasing!
Moderatorhttps://soundcloud.com/castlesmusic/sets/oak
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 11:48:57
September 10 2008 11:31 GMT
#10
Indeed, I do not mean any insult to either side. Note that I refer to myself and others like me as 'slobs,' and the proper typists as 'assholes.' In insulting everyone I hoped that nobody would be insulted! As imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I wish to extend my hand across our differences and forge a deep and meaningful relationship.

Please notice that an SIS is not simply someone who uses capitalization - it's people who make posts with excessive lead-ins to sentences, refusals to say a few bad words, excessive punctuation to the degree of punctuating acronyms ("roflmao."), etc. Do not be so quick to take offense, my delightful readers.
Moderatorhttps://soundcloud.com/castlesmusic/sets/oak
Ivs
Profile Joined January 2008
Australia139 Posts
September 10 2008 11:31 GMT
#11
For some, I think capitalisation is just a habit, that's just how they always type their sentences. It's not they are trying to be more serious than others.
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
September 10 2008 11:32 GMT
#12
On September 10 2008 20:29 intrigue wrote:
Also, what indeed is up with those fellows that selectively capitalize letters in their sentences? I will provide an example: "today I played a Game of starcraft on Iccup, and i went zero and Seven simply Tank Rushing his zerglings." It isn't even consistent! If only there was a internet standard for typing, both efficient and aesthetically pleasing!
Hark! The songbird of the morn sounds its melody! Has not the chariot of dawn approached? Why art thou not in bed?
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
September 10 2008 11:37 GMT
#13
You Just Have To Be A Little More Experienced To Spot The Difference Between Impersonators And The Genuinely Educated. Also, The Buddy Slang Talk Is Usually Done When We're Just Plain Lazy And Understand That The Buddy Would Understand With Less Typing As Well As Making Them Feel More Like Your Personal Friend Thus A Better Relationship Bonding. On The Internet, If We Put Too Few Words, Things Like WHY SO SERIOUS? Can Be Seen As A Threat Instead Of A Joke. Therefore, A More Eloquent Post Is Necessary.

In Your Case, You May Just Be Lazy Or Untrained To Press The Shift Key. Also, With That, You Can See Who Judges You By Appearance Which Means They Are Obviously The n00b-kind. Therefore, Do Not Take Their Posts To Heart. But Then Again, Some Of Us May Confuse It Up By Doing It Sarcastically. So My Advice Is That You'd Have To Take Account Of That Person's History (Post Count Is A General Estimate But Better To Know What Kind Of Stuffs He/She Posted In The Past).
"Eyes in the sky."
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
September 10 2008 11:40 GMT
#14
It's just a good habit to get into, once your in you can't get out. Good luck
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
September 10 2008 11:43 GMT
#15
On September 10 2008 20:40 Spenguin wrote:
It's just a good habit to get into, once your in you can't get out. Good luck
On the contrary! In my younger years, I typed very much like an asshole! However, in shedding my snarky, sarcastic persona with age, I also lost the obvious superiority complex that accompanies proper typing.
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
September 10 2008 11:45 GMT
#16
You can develop very bad habits if you don't.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
September 10 2008 11:52 GMT
#17
On September 10 2008 20:37 Aerox wrote:
You Just Have To Be A Little More Experienced To Spot The Difference Between Impersonators And The Genuinely Educated. Also, The Buddy Slang Talk Is Usually Done When We're Just Plain Lazy And Understand That The Buddy Would Understand With Less Typing As Well As Making Them Feel More Like Your Personal Friend Thus A Better Relationship Bonding. On The Internet, If We Put Too Few Words, Things Like WHY SO SERIOUS? Can Be Seen As A Threat Instead Of A Joke. Therefore, A More Eloquent Post Is Necessary.

In Your Case, You May Just Be Lazy Or Untrained To Press The Shift Key. Also, With That, You Can See Who Judges You By Appearance Which Means They Are Obviously The n00b-kind. Therefore, Do Not Take Their Posts To Heart. But Then Again, Some Of Us May Confuse It Up By Doing It Sarcastically. So My Advice Is That You'd Have To Take Account Of That Person's History (Post Count Is A General Estimate But Better To Know What Kind Of Stuffs He/She Posted In The Past).

You are mathematical!
Moderatorhttps://soundcloud.com/castlesmusic/sets/oak
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 12:04:13
September 10 2008 12:02 GMT
#18
It is a response to TL's strict moderating and banning "shitty posters". People obviously want to sound smart and educated so they do not fall under the "shitty posters" category.
tracer
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)693 Posts
September 10 2008 12:07 GMT
#19
On September 10 2008 20:25 yubee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2008 20:22 DownMaxX wrote:
Wait.. using capitalization makes me an asshole?
It gives off the impression that you're too uptight about little things like capitalization to have any fun. "Hey, don't invite the guy that guy that types properly! He's a stick in the mud, a real wet blanket!" It's the same reason no one likes Chill.
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2008 20:24 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Criticizing someone for using proper english is stupid.
It's exactly this tone that makes you look like a jerk. It's as if you're saying, why should those vile beasts criticize me!? I, a noble scholar, have standards to uphold! Do not bring me down to your level!


You can just as easily flip that argument over. So those people who don't use proper English on the internet are saying, I am a vile beast whose standards don't compare to those of the noble scholars! I am not of their level!

Besides, conceiving someone as a jerk because he uses proper English is a misguided, unjustifiable assumption in itself. Only a jerk would call someone else a jerk for no valid reason.

Ethenielle
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Norway1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 12:14:32
September 10 2008 12:12 GMT
#20
Correct spelling and puctuation is a must(if not you're an asshole), but if you DARE use capitalization you're an asshole.
Theres a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
September 10 2008 12:27 GMT
#21
yo homie. miss me? ^_^ <3
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
September 10 2008 12:31 GMT
#22
On September 10 2008 20:29 intrigue wrote:
Also, what indeed is up with those fellows that selectively capitalize letters in their sentences? I will provide an example: "today I played a Game of starcraft on Iccup, and i went zero and Seven simply Tank Rushing his zerglings." It isn't even consistent! If only there was a internet standard for typing, both efficient and aesthetically pleasing!


Maybe they are German?
No I'm never serious.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
September 10 2008 13:35 GMT
#23
On September 10 2008 20:40 Spenguin wrote:
It's just a good habit to get into, once your in you can't get out. Good luck


Exactly. I might as well type properly if I can just so that I can keep my wpm up when I'm typing an essay or other long prose. The people that add in extra words to sound condescending are simply retarded and are easy to pick out.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 10 2008 13:51 GMT
#24
Am i SIS?
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 10 2008 13:58 GMT
#25
I am Laughing Out Loud!
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
September 10 2008 14:03 GMT
#26
I like Chill!
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
September 10 2008 14:09 GMT
#27
i hat ewen ppl abbv everything & r 2 la-z 2 even capitlize I, & mispel cuz they in a hurry and shit
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
September 10 2008 14:13 GMT
#28
Wouldn't SIPs be better?
No I'm never serious.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24692 Posts
September 10 2008 14:26 GMT
#29
On September 10 2008 20:28 Elric_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2008 20:24 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Criticizing someone for using proper english is stupid.


Agreed. It's just as bad as the idiots who post just to say "it's THEIR not there" or "it's spelt XXXX, not XXYX." I don't fucking understand those people. Do they get kicks out of correcting the literacy of a random stranger on the internet? Who the fuck cares!!? It's the Internet. As long as the meaning is clear and it's not complete txtmsg garbage, why bother.....

You are overgeneralizing, and I belive missing the point in many cases.

If you are arguing with someone and typing really quickly, and they are trying to find fault with you, and then call you an idiot for an obvious typo, then they are being an idiot. But I don't like the mentality that because it's the internet you should never correct anyone for anything. If your reasoning is to be a pain in the ass, then you should just stop. But let's be honest. Some people make the same stupid mistakes over and over again without realizing it. Sometimes all it takes is someone to politely point out and possibly explain the error, and it won't happen anymore.

I like it when people correct me if it's because I was mistaken (it's called learning dur). But I agree it can be hard to tell if they are genuine or not, and they can be really dumb about it when they want to.

BTW intrigue if the people typing properly aren't complaining about other people then I see 0 problem. Nothing wrong with practicing proper English.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
September 10 2008 14:44 GMT
#30
yeah serious, formal language is a little out of place in casual conversation... it's like a guy who shows up to (public) school in a tie. or how slang is out of place in a serious/formal environment ("yo sup this is my resume... so like when i was 8 my uncle hired me to mow his lawn... he said i did a kickass job so plz hire me thx").

so it's a little weird, but no reason to hold it against people i think, especially when english might not be their native language -- picking up on these little nuances might be hard.
I BELIEVE IN CAPITAL LETTER PUNISHMENT!!!!!
8Pylon
Profile Joined April 2008
United States223 Posts
September 10 2008 14:48 GMT
#31
big deal you whiney bitch e.e
I 3 pooled your mom with a napping drone, then scarabed her face. GG
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
September 10 2008 15:01 GMT
#32
this is the stupidest thing ive ever read

This is the stupidest thing I've ever read.
May the BeSt man win.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 10 2008 15:07 GMT
#33
On September 10 2008 23:13 Nytefish wrote:
Wouldn't SIPs be better?


yeA! siS makeS nO sensE siP ftW! screW thosE whO capitilizE correctlY (noticE lacK oF perioD)
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 15:15:53
September 10 2008 15:14 GMT
#34
On September 10 2008 20:18 intrigue wrote:do these people read our (my) posts everywhere and think i'm some classless swine, educated and uncouth? is the internet really so serious?!?!?!

Yes, now learn to write properly or suffer from incomprehensible and widely used internet jargon a decade from now.

Damn trailer trash.

On September 10 2008 22:51 Plexa wrote:
Am i SIS?

No, you forgot to capitalize "I" and didn't properly punctuate "S.I.S".
♞
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 15:17:05
September 10 2008 15:16 GMT
#35
On September 10 2008 23:26 micronesia wrote:

BTW intrigue if the people typing properly aren't complaining about other people then I see zero problem. Nothing wrong with practicing proper English.

Numbers below 10 should be written out with letters.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
September 10 2008 15:17 GMT
#36
It just comes naturally to me. It honestly is an effort to do it the other way around for me. Seems counter-intuitive, I know, but it's true!

But yes, all users that refuse to capitalize and use punctuation deserve to be slaughtered! D:<
hear my serious roar
Think. :)
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
September 10 2008 15:25 GMT
#37
Who cares as long as the message you want to deliver is clear :p
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azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 15:34:39
September 10 2008 15:33 GMT
#38
If we confine discussion to film production, it makes sense in this context to speak of national cinemas as non-standard and marginal activities. Part of the problem, of course, is the paradox that for a cinema to be nationally popular it must also be international in scope. That is to say, it must achieve the international (Hollywood) standard. For, by and large, it is films of the major American distributors which achieve national box-office success, so that film-makers who aspire to this same level of box-office popularity must attempt to reproduce the standard, which in practice means colluding with Hollywood's systems of funding, production control, distribution, and marketing. Any alternative means of achieving national popular success must, if it is to be economically viable, be conceived on an international scale, which is virtually impossible for a national film industry, unless it has a particularly large domestic market, as in the case of the Bombay film industry. The difficulty is to establish some sort of balance between the 'apparently incompatible objectives of a national cinema -- to be economically viable but culturally motivated', ' to be "national" in what is essentially an international industry'.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
September 10 2008 15:36 GMT
#39
Back in the Day, WhiPPerSnaPPerZ like you would get SPANKED on THE reaR enD.

With a gust of wind, perhaps.
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
September 10 2008 15:40 GMT
#40
how everyone writing in this blog suddenly uses capitalization
beam me up scotty, this planet suxX
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
September 10 2008 15:44 GMT
#41
On September 11 2008 00:36 inertinept wrote:
Back in the Day, WhiPPerSnaPPerZ like you would get SPANKED on THE reaR enD.


Intrigue, I think you should proceed cautiously -- this guy means business.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
September 10 2008 15:50 GMT
#42
Well, some people are indeed typing like a borderline retarded person sometimes - and I don't want anyone to have that impression of me.

That simple.

It's not like you have to refrain from rofling, though.

Besides, typing a little bit more formally also helps me maintain the level of English I have, as it's not my first language.
Complete the cycle!
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6636 Posts
September 10 2008 16:28 GMT
#43
I don't mind a lack of capitalization, it's the needless text message style abbreviations that get to me.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
September 10 2008 16:28 GMT
#44
It would be nice if people used their/they're, you're/your, loose/lose, etc. properly, if only to help those who want to improve their English.
No I'm never serious.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24692 Posts
September 10 2008 16:31 GMT
#45
On September 11 2008 00:16 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2008 23:26 micronesia wrote:

BTW intrigue if the people typing properly aren't complaining about other people then I see zero problem. Nothing wrong with practicing proper English.

Numbers below 10 should be written out with letters.

Point me to this convention please.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 16:34:06
September 10 2008 16:33 GMT
#46
On September 10 2008 20:37 Aerox wrote:
You Just Have To Be A Little More Experienced To Spot The Difference Between Impersonators And The Genuinely Educated. Also, The Buddy Slang Talk Is Usually Done When We're Just Plain Lazy And Understand That The Buddy Would Understand With Less Typing As Well As Making Them Feel More Like Your Personal Friend Thus A Better Relationship Bonding. On The Internet, If We Put Too Few Words, Things Like WHY SO SERIOUS? Can Be Seen As A Threat Instead Of A Joke. Therefore, A More Eloquent Post Is Necessary.

In Your Case, You May Just Be Lazy Or Untrained To Press The Shift Key. Also, With That, You Can See Who Judges You By Appearance Which Means They Are Obviously The n00b-kind. Therefore, Do Not Take Their Posts To Heart. But Then Again, Some Of Us May Confuse It Up By Doing It Sarcastically. So My Advice Is That You'd Have To Take Account Of That Person's History (Post Count Is A General Estimate But Better To Know What Kind Of Stuffs He/She Posted In The Past).


ATOMIC RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


btw. i'm a classless swine for sure.
We make signature, then defense it.
sqwert
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States781 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 16:53:59
September 10 2008 16:51 GMT
#47
It's [fucken] impossible homie G. Unless you're really bz like me and need to get your point across fast and don't have time to type it, just abbreviate everything. I tried being "correct" once, and it didnt last very long.
if everythings coming your way, youre in the wrong lane. sAviOr 4evar!
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
September 10 2008 17:13 GMT
#48
On September 11 2008 01:51 sqwert wrote:
It's [fucken] impossible homie G. Unless you're really bz like me and need to get your point across fast and don't have time to type it, just abbreviate everything. I tried being "correct" once, and it didnt last very long.

Word.
Moderatorhttps://soundcloud.com/castlesmusic/sets/oak
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 17:16:10
September 10 2008 17:13 GMT
#49
On September 11 2008 01:31 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2008 00:16 Jibba wrote:
On September 10 2008 23:26 micronesia wrote:

BTW intrigue if the people typing properly aren't complaining about other people then I see zero problem. Nothing wrong with practicing proper English.

Numbers below 10 should be written out with letters.

Point me to this convention please.

Dear Sir,

I believe the answer to this question is the following:

The style guide for practically every newspaper in existence, most notably the AP style guide, which is number one in a world of 3890340384 style guides. GOT IT SIR?!

Additionally, I would like to voice my strong and vocal support of the activity thus described in the Original Post (OP). It never hurts to make fun of people who belong to stereotypes that do not at all exist on teamliquid! It gives one a fascinating sense of superiority; of which the OP is clearly in need of. I applaud your efforts! Avaste! Go forth and mock, ye with no self esteem! Go forth!

Yours beloved *HINT HINT INTRGUE*,

ahrara_
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
September 10 2008 17:15 GMT
#50
in seriousness, i think this will end in a duel to the death between intrigue and moltke

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Pwntrucci[sR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1519 Posts
September 10 2008 17:17 GMT
#51
People should type in whatever way they want, adds personallities to the internest
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24692 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 18:08:50
September 10 2008 18:08 GMT
#52
On September 11 2008 02:13 ahrara_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2008 01:31 micronesia wrote:
On September 11 2008 00:16 Jibba wrote:
On September 10 2008 23:26 micronesia wrote:

BTW intrigue if the people typing properly aren't complaining about other people then I see zero problem. Nothing wrong with practicing proper English.

Numbers below 10 should be written out with letters.

Point me to this convention please.

Dear Sir,

I believe the answer to this question is the following:

The style guide for practically every newspaper in existence, most notably the AP style guide, which is number one in a world of 3890340384 style guides. GOT IT SIR?!

This is not a newspaper. I am talking about the conventions of standard written english. If there is no convention which states that you should write out numbers less than ten, then I am right and you all are my bitches.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 10 2008 18:16 GMT
#53
It depends what you mean by "standard written english." Since we're talking about proper capitalization and punctuation as practice for future assignments, etc. then the number rule should be followed as well since it's a part of the AP/MLA/Oxford rule sets that most academic papers adhere to.

BTW I could've said all that in about 5 words, but I want to sound smarter than I really am.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 18:47:26
September 10 2008 18:47 GMT
#54
On September 10 2008 20:28 Elric_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2008 20:24 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Criticizing someone for using proper english is stupid.


Agreed. It's just as bad as the idiots who post just to say "it's THEIR not there" or "it's spelt XXXX, not XXYX." I don't fucking understand those people. Do they get kicks out of correcting the literacy of a random stranger on the internet? Who the fuck cares!!? It's the Internet. As long as the meaning is clear and it's not complete txtmsg garbage, why bother.....


I don't really care about other people's spelling that much, except for the word "Ridiculous".

I've seen so many people spell it as "Rediculous" when they are like complaining about something. To me, it's an instant 50% credit drop on whatever they are trying to talk about.
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6636 Posts
September 10 2008 18:50 GMT
#55
On September 11 2008 01:28 Nytefish wrote:
It would be nice if people used their/they're, you're/your, loose/lose, etc. properly, if only to help those who want to improve their English.

I can understand how people get those mixed up but something that escapes me completely is how people can get "then" and "than" mixed up. What the fuck?
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24692 Posts
September 10 2008 18:57 GMT
#56
On September 11 2008 03:16 Jibba wrote:
It depends what you mean by "standard written english." Since we're talking about proper capitalization and punctuation as practice for future assignments, etc. then the number rule should be followed as well since it's a part of the AP/MLA/Oxford rule sets that most academic papers adhere to.

BTW I could've said all that in about 5 words, but I want to sound smarter than I really am.

I had an inkling that it wasn't in the same style as your normal writing lol.

APA/MLA etc are for academic writing, not the english language :-/
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anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
September 10 2008 19:17 GMT
#57
I just type this way because my OCD goes crazy over missed caps, indents, whatever. It's purely chemical, not jut blatant assholery.
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
September 10 2008 19:28 GMT
#58
srs
kdog3683
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States916 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 19:51:41
September 10 2008 19:48 GMT
#59
Seems some like pretty obvious reasons to me.

1. Posters see Moltkewarding Post. They think "wow, such deep insightful posts and tl.net loves him. I'm going to emulate!"
2. They wanna be a pillar of the community like a village elder and in order to be a village elder, you gotta be wise! You can only be wise if you type like gigantic prick that knows everything and explains in a condescending / pompous tone.
3. Some people are just naturally inclined to be serious and have no sense of humor so it carries over to tl.net. aka die hard religious folks.
4. Some people want to practice English. And may or may not possess the ability to type informally aka non americans. Maybe somebody on here is a lawyer and hones his debating skills in the Tl.net: General Arena.
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Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
September 10 2008 19:56 GMT
#60
On September 11 2008 01:31 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2008 00:16 Jibba wrote:
On September 10 2008 23:26 micronesia wrote:

BTW intrigue if the people typing properly aren't complaining about other people then I see zero problem. Nothing wrong with practicing proper English.

Numbers below 10 should be written out with letters.

Point me to this convention please.

holy fuck, are you seriously in grad school?
T-P-S
Profile Joined June 2007
United States204 Posts
September 10 2008 20:25 GMT
#61
I don't speak like I'm eight in real life, why would I want to type like it online?
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24692 Posts
September 10 2008 21:41 GMT
#62
On September 11 2008 04:56 Masamune wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2008 01:31 micronesia wrote:
On September 11 2008 00:16 Jibba wrote:
On September 10 2008 23:26 micronesia wrote:

BTW intrigue if the people typing properly aren't complaining about other people then I see zero problem. Nothing wrong with practicing proper English.

Numbers below 10 should be written out with letters.

Point me to this convention please.

holy fuck, are you seriously in grad school?

Are you? You must have mistakenly thought I didn't realize that academic writing requires the use of words for single digit numbers -_-

If you are going to be offensive on the internet, at least be right or be trolling.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
September 10 2008 22:23 GMT
#63
Communication is simply easier when people use proper punctuation and spelling =/

Does it really make someone uptight to press shift at the beginning of every sentence? I hate reading long winded posts without punctuation. They're harder to read. I don't care if it's one sentence... But paragraphs of this bullshit is generally enough reason for me to stop reading unless the person has really enlightening ideas.

Frankly, it pisses me off that you have something against people who take the "extra" (in quotation marks because it should be normal) time to communicate their thoughts in a way that will be easiest to read. It has nothing to do with professionalism or showing off; Just common courtesy.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 10 2008 22:42 GMT
#64
On September 11 2008 07:23 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
Communication is simply easier when people use proper punctuation and spelling =/

Does it really make someone uptight to press shift at the beginning of every sentence? I hate reading long winded posts without punctuation. They're harder to read. I don't care if it's one sentence... But paragraphs of this bullshit is generally enough reason for me to stop reading unless the person has really enlightening ideas.

Agree, and remember punctuation serves a purpose.

On August 10 2008 14:04 Sfydjklm wrote:
man volley players have such nice asses.


Plus I'm not a douche that corrects people's spelling/grammar. I find more creative ways to be a douche.
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
September 10 2008 22:49 GMT
#65
On September 11 2008 03:08 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2008 02:13 ahrara_ wrote:
On September 11 2008 01:31 micronesia wrote:
On September 11 2008 00:16 Jibba wrote:
On September 10 2008 23:26 micronesia wrote:

BTW intrigue if the people typing properly aren't complaining about other people then I see zero problem. Nothing wrong with practicing proper English.

Numbers below 10 should be written out with letters.

Point me to this convention please.

Dear Sir,

I believe the answer to this question is the following:

The style guide for practically every newspaper in existence, most notably the AP style guide, which is number one in a world of 3890340384 style guides. GOT IT SIR?!

This is not a newspaper. I am talking about the conventions of standard written english. If there is no convention which states that you should write out numbers less than ten, then I am right and you all are my bitches.

me too? am i your bitch, bitch? is intrigue?
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
September 10 2008 22:50 GMT
#66
On September 11 2008 07:23 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
Communication is simply easier when people use proper punctuation and spelling =/

Does it really make someone uptight to press shift at the beginning of every sentence? I hate reading long winded posts without punctuation. They're harder to read. I don't care if it's one sentence... But paragraphs of this bullshit is generally enough reason for me to stop reading unless the person has really enlightening ideas.

Frankly, it pisses me off that you have something against people who take the "extra" (in quotation marks because it should be normal) time to communicate their thoughts in a way that will be easiest to read. It has nothing to do with professionalism or showing off; Just common courtesy.

i totally agree with intrigue. how dare anyone not meet her expectations of right and wrong.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 10 2008 22:51 GMT
#67
On September 11 2008 07:50 ahrara_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2008 07:23 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
Communication is simply easier when people use proper punctuation and spelling =/

Does it really make someone uptight to press shift at the beginning of every sentence? I hate reading long winded posts without punctuation. They're harder to read. I don't care if it's one sentence... But paragraphs of this bullshit is generally enough reason for me to stop reading unless the person has really enlightening ideas.

Frankly, it pisses me off that you have something against people who take the "extra" (in quotation marks because it should be normal) time to communicate their thoughts in a way that will be easiest to read. It has nothing to do with professionalism or showing off; Just common courtesy.

i totally agree with intrigue. how dare anyone not meet her expectations of right and wrong.


Maybe intrigue is just pmsing
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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
September 10 2008 23:03 GMT
#68
My typing depends on my mood. I rarely dont capitalize though. It makes it easier to read for everyone else. Capitalization and punctuation make reading a lot more convenient.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24692 Posts
September 10 2008 23:12 GMT
#69
On September 11 2008 07:49 ahrara_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2008 03:08 micronesia wrote:
On September 11 2008 02:13 ahrara_ wrote:
On September 11 2008 01:31 micronesia wrote:
On September 11 2008 00:16 Jibba wrote:
On September 10 2008 23:26 micronesia wrote:

BTW intrigue if the people typing properly aren't complaining about other people then I see zero problem. Nothing wrong with practicing proper English.

Numbers below 10 should be written out with letters.

Point me to this convention please.

Dear Sir,

I believe the answer to this question is the following:

The style guide for practically every newspaper in existence, most notably the AP style guide, which is number one in a world of 3890340384 style guides. GOT IT SIR?!

This is not a newspaper. I am talking about the conventions of standard written english. If there is no convention which states that you should write out numbers less than ten, then I am right and you all are my bitches.

me too? am i your bitch, bitch? is intrigue?

You're all bitches.
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obviously
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
September 10 2008 23:26 GMT
#70
On September 10 2008 23:26 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2008 20:28 Elric_ wrote:
On September 10 2008 20:24 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Criticizing someone for using proper english is stupid.


Agreed. It's just as bad as the idiots who post just to say "it's THEIR not there" or "it's spelt XXXX, not XXYX." I don't fucking understand those people. Do they get kicks out of correcting the literacy of a random stranger on the internet? Who the fuck cares!!? It's the Internet. As long as the meaning is clear and it's not complete txtmsg garbage, why bother.....

You are overgeneralizing, and I belive missing the point in many cases.

If you are arguing with someone and typing really quickly, and they are trying to find fault with you, and then call you an idiot for an obvious typo, then they are being an idiot. But I don't like the mentality that because it's the internet you should never correct anyone for anything. If your reasoning is to be a pain in the ass, then you should just stop. But let's be honest. Some people make the same stupid mistakes over and over again without realizing it. Sometimes all it takes is someone to politely point out and possibly explain the error, and it won't happen anymore.

I like it when people correct me if it's because I was mistaken (it's called learning dur). But I agree it can be hard to tell if they are genuine or not, and they can be really dumb about it when they want to.


I agree that if people are genuinely trying to help other people on the Internet with spelling and grammar then it's normally okay to correct them. However, 90% of the time (imo), people who do this are just being pretentious fags who think that pointing out obvious grammatical errors/typos increase their e-credibility.

Most people have seen enough corrections of "your/you're" "their/there" (on the Internet or in school) to have bothered to correct their typing if they gave any type of shit about it in the first place. In other words, (imo) the proper-English-brigade should stop wasting their time and clogging up the Internet with the crap that 90% will not make any difference.

I don't like the mentality either that "because it's the internet you should never correct anyone for anything". Not quite sure how you could suggest such a huge statement from my post Maybe it should be "on the internet you should never correct anyone for anything when the mistakes are trivial, obvious and do no distort the meaning of the original post"
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
September 10 2008 23:28 GMT
#71
On September 11 2008 08:12 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2008 07:49 ahrara_ wrote:
On September 11 2008 03:08 micronesia wrote:
On September 11 2008 02:13 ahrara_ wrote:
On September 11 2008 01:31 micronesia wrote:
On September 11 2008 00:16 Jibba wrote:
On September 10 2008 23:26 micronesia wrote:

BTW intrigue if the people typing properly aren't complaining about other people then I see zero problem. Nothing wrong with practicing proper English.

Numbers below 10 should be written out with letters.

Point me to this convention please.

Dear Sir,

I believe the answer to this question is the following:

The style guide for practically every newspaper in existence, most notably the AP style guide, which is number one in a world of 3890340384 style guides. GOT IT SIR?!

This is not a newspaper. I am talking about the conventions of standard written english. If there is no convention which states that you should write out numbers less than ten, then I am right and you all are my bitches.

me too? am i your bitch, bitch? is intrigue?

You're all bitches.
+ Show Spoiler +
obviously

why you calling a girl names
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
September 10 2008 23:29 GMT
#72
godammit i just walked into a zinger didn't i
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
September 10 2008 23:59 GMT
#73
intrigue and yubee, sitting in a tree

C A P I T A L I Z I N G
Hippopotamus
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1914 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-11 00:25:03
September 11 2008 00:24 GMT
#74
On September 10 2008 20:18 intrigue wrote:
so, i usually type like this on the internet: my rule is fuck capitalization, but basic punctuation and spelling need to be maintained unless i'm doing an awsum abbv. however, it's just mind boggling how some people type so goddamn formally! is this a standard i somehow missed? are these typers simply presenting a mask to us, using the vilest of slang when they talk to their buddies? do these people read our (my) posts everywhere and think i'm some classless swine, educated and uncouth? is the internet really so serious?!?!?!

in an effort to further my understanding of these strange SIS (Serious Internet Persons), i will begin typing like them in every post and on irc for an entire week, beginning from when i wake up in four hours. if you are a slob in your internet rompings feel free to join me, and if you are an SIS please tell why you type like an asshole.

note: i'm not talking about newsposts and shit on tlnet's frontpage, i'm talking about random posts like: "Why yes, I do enjoy a pickle nestled firmly in my hamburgers; the flavour and texture added transcends that of those sandwiches eaten by peasants."

note2, added after reading the first few replies: Please notice that an SIS is not simply someone who uses capitalization - it's people who make posts with excessive lead-ins to sentences, refusals to say a few bad words, excessive punctuation to the degree of punctuating acronyms ("roflmao."), etc. Do not be so quick to take offense, my delightful readers.


Years upon years of painful essay-writing can do that to you. When your school and college forces you to write so much that it dwarfs your online typing output, you cannot but succumb to the formal style.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-17 19:17:13
September 17 2008 19:12 GMT
#75
On September 10 2008 20:18 intrigue wrote:
so, i usually type like this on the internet: my rule is fuck capitalization, but basic punctuation and spelling need to be maintained unless i'm doing an awsum abbv. however, it's just mind boggling how some people type so goddamn formally! is this a standard i somehow missed? are these typers simply presenting a mask to us, using the vilest of slang when they talk to their buddies? do these people read our (my) posts everywhere and think i'm some classless swine, educated and uncouth? is the internet really so serious?!?!?!

in an effort to further my understanding of these strange


SIS (Serious Internet Persons),


i will begin typing like them in every post and on irc for an entire week, beginning from when i wake up in four hours. if you are a slob in your internet rompings feel free to join me, and if you are an SIS please tell why you type like an asshole.

note: i'm not talking about newsposts and shit on tlnet's frontpage, i'm talking about random posts like: "Why yes, I do enjoy a pickle nestled firmly in my hamburgers; the flavour and texture added transcends that of those sandwiches eaten by peasants."

note2, added after reading the first few replies: Please notice that an SIS is not simply someone who uses capitalization - it's people who make posts with excessive lead-ins to sentences, refusals to say a few bad words, excessive punctuation to the degree of punctuating acronyms ("roflmao."), etc. Do not be so quick to take offense, my delightful readers.


don't fuckin tell me im the only one who noticed this?

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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
September 17 2008 20:36 GMT
#76
I've always typed exactly like you, because I learned to type on bnet. To be honest I've only just recently started using capitalization because it's pretty needed if you ever want to have a formal e-mail conversation with a professor or something. It just makes you look so much more professional.
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zOula...
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
September 17 2008 20:49 GMT
#77
yeah i don't get how SIS = Serious Internet Person...
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
September 18 2008 01:18 GMT
#78
Is Intrigue the girl or is it Infinity21?
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
September 18 2008 03:40 GMT
#79
the people that matter all know the best way to type is in lowercase
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fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-18 06:30:54
September 18 2008 06:28 GMT
#80
for me at least, capitalizing or not is a very conscious decision. Sometimes I will uncapitalize something that is correct or visa versa. Sometimes I will uncapitalize the first word of a paragraph, but write the rest correctly. Its all an overly complicated mix of deliberate subtleties, at least in my case. The same goes for punctuation....whether to put a period, put no period, or put a series of periods causes me way too much grief.

I always try to use correct grammar and put commas in the correct places though. Sometimes I will come back to a post I made 20 minutes ago because I'm missing a comma. I usually re-read my post 4 or 5 times at least before I post it. Sometimes I write out an entire post by decide not to post it after all.

Is there something wrong with me?

edit: btw, random capitalization is retarded imo
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