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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-01 22:29:43
May 01 2008 22:27 GMT
#61
On May 02 2008 07:23 Ancestral wrote:
Do you know for a fact he wouldn't (after extensive military training, that is)?


LOL

Sry if i seem rude, but please stop to compare bw to real life, it is stupid, and lets stop this off topic
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-01 22:36:32
May 01 2008 22:36 GMT
#62
On May 02 2008 07:27 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2008 07:23 Ancestral wrote:
Do you know for a fact he wouldn't (after extensive military training, that is)?


LOL

Sry if i seem rude, but please stop to compare bw to real life, it is stupid, and lets stop this off topic

Personally, I'm not comparing it to real life. I don't think being good at BW makes you instantly a good general, but I don't think there is any specific evidence that Savior would NOT make a good general, that is the only point I am contending.

And Jibba, I'll post that if no one else has in a bit, I want to see how the react to my current post first.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 01 2008 22:52 GMT
#63
On May 02 2008 07:09 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2008 06:51 fusionsdf wrote:
also, one reason for France's stunning defeat in WW2 was because they were unused to the pace of war, and expected it to be slow strategic maneuvers


Stop to compare real life to broodwar.... Seriously if you think that Savior would make a good general you are an utterly retarded fanboy dork.


The idea is that a huge component of tactics lies in the time you're allowed to make those decisions. In Starcraft, strategy does not vary so much among good players because everyone knows the appropriate builds, counters, etc. Tactically, there is a huge amount of variation and time is a big reason for that. If you removed time as a limiting factor, tactics would become formulaic as everyone would know which maneuvers to pull off and how to do them. When tactics and strategy both stall, you usually run into boring, defense oriented, dragged out affairs, as more people become capable of responding to pressure adequately. With a time constraint, the advantage is given to the attackers and it becomes more difficult to respond to each move. Thus you get a fast and exciting game, like the Showtime Lakers.

Comparing chess to speed chess is an absolutely horrible example. First of all, chess is a super dumbed down version of Starcraft. Second, it's still a turn based game, so you don't have dynamic circumstances to deal with. You simply cannot accurately compare a real time game to a turn based game.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
May 01 2008 22:57 GMT
#64
TL fighting. i hope you guys totally and utterly dominate the pcgamer members.
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MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
May 01 2008 23:03 GMT
#65
why bother? Convincing blizzard is enough. Everybody else does not really matter.
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5608 Posts
May 01 2008 23:03 GMT
#66
On May 02 2008 07:57 alffla wrote:
TL fighting. i hope you guys totally and utterly dominate the pcgamer members.


It's just a matter of them admitting it, which they won't. T___T
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-01 23:50:39
May 01 2008 23:35 GMT
#67
On May 02 2008 07:52 Jibba wrote:
Comparing chess to speed chess is an absolutely horrible example. First of all, chess is a super dumbed down version of Starcraft. Second, it's still a turn based game, so you don't have dynamic circumstances to deal with. You simply cannot accurately compare a real time game to a turn based game.


I already said that Turn-based games / Macro RTS / Fast paced RTS ( broodwar ) are each different kinds of games and it is a matter of taste.

Nevertheless you can still make comparisons with other RTS or Turn-based games like chess and point out the characteristics of each games, why you ( dont ) like it, why you think it is a great game, balance issues and so on.
But when you make comparisions between 1v1 GAMES and real life battles involving thousands of PEOPLE you are a fucking dork who takes starcraft too seriously.

Stop to dream, reaching B+ rank doesnt mean that you are smarter than the D- beginner. It doesnt mean that you would be a better general neither. You are just more used ( or skilled ) to play a fucking video game.

I hate those stupids analogies.


edit: btw mechanics > strategy in broodwar.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42875 Posts
May 02 2008 02:55 GMT
#68
On May 02 2008 08:35 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2008 07:52 Jibba wrote:
Comparing chess to speed chess is an absolutely horrible example. First of all, chess is a super dumbed down version of Starcraft. Second, it's still a turn based game, so you don't have dynamic circumstances to deal with. You simply cannot accurately compare a real time game to a turn based game.


I already said that Turn-based games / Macro RTS / Fast paced RTS ( broodwar ) are each different kinds of games and it is a matter of taste.

Nevertheless you can still make comparisons with other RTS or Turn-based games like chess and point out the characteristics of each games, why you ( dont ) like it, why you think it is a great game, balance issues and so on.
But when you make comparisions between 1v1 GAMES and real life battles involving thousands of PEOPLE you are a fucking dork who takes starcraft too seriously.

Stop to dream, reaching B+ rank doesnt mean that you are smarter than the D- beginner. It doesnt mean that you would be a better general neither. You are just more used ( or skilled ) to play a fucking video game.

I hate those stupids analogies.


edit: btw mechanics > strategy in broodwar.

My mechanics suck ass. Always have done. I'd give my classic example of my success at low apm except I said I'd stop doing that after some guy nagged me so pm me if you want to hear me brag.
To give a different example, K00lam beat Testie on Longinus with 90apm. He did it by having excellent game sense and strategy, even though his mechanics were, at 90 apm, pretty awful.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42875 Posts
May 02 2008 02:56 GMT
#69
Oh, and most beginners simply cannot think. I mean the first step in any game is to just take a basic look at the map and describe its features. Most D- players struggle to do this, let alone predict how those features will influence the strategies available.
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Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
May 02 2008 05:00 GMT
#70
Wow that was hard to read. I don't think he realized that this game WAS made for the speed and competitiveness (and strategy too!). But that's the truth with modern day games; casual games are always a plus these days... and the skill gap between pros and noobs are shrinking (look at ssbm -> ssbb, they're debating like the MBS threads...)

I really hope sc2 gets an eSports opportunity in the U.S., even though it's highly unlikely.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-02 06:10:12
May 02 2008 06:08 GMT
#71
You know how you hear random people all the time complaining that Starcraft is a "rushing" game? This is a perfect example.

I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands (if not millions) more out there, so there's no way that anybody can convince most of them to change their opinion, let alone even change a single person's. I fully trust that Blizzard won't slow down the game just for them so I really don't care what one self-important retard thinks about the game.
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
May 02 2008 06:12 GMT
#72
God reading that article (and the associated forum thread) just INFURIATES me. Unfortunately, that's pretty much the reaction of every casual starcraft player.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
May 02 2008 07:08 GMT
#73
Posted.

What a tiring and infantile post.
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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
May 02 2008 07:46 GMT
#74
hey, i got quoted!

and nice post LR
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azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
May 02 2008 07:51 GMT
#75
very eloquent post btw
MyLostTemple *
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2921 Posts
May 02 2008 08:35 GMT
#76
what's his fucking email
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
May 02 2008 08:49 GMT
#77
LOLLL

Tasteless go check the SC2 thread on it.
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11297 Posts
May 02 2008 09:27 GMT
#78
It still baffles me that he was referring to "hate-mail".
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BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-02 09:32:30
May 02 2008 09:32 GMT
#79
He's not just ignorant. He is an idiot. He knows he is ignorant and that he is going to offend people because of that. But that's what he wants. He wants to provoke 'hate mail'. WTF man, he is worse than the trolls on the bnet forums. And he gets payed to do so and many many readers.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5608 Posts
May 02 2008 09:44 GMT
#80
On May 02 2008 18:32 BlackStar wrote:
He's not just ignorant. He is an idiot. He knows he is ignorant and that he is going to offend people because of that. But that's what he wants. He wants to provoke 'hate mail'. WTF man, he is worse than the trolls on the bnet forums. And he gets payed to do so and many many readers.


Heh, QFT.

I also doubt, contrary to what he claims, that he played progamers in Korea. After all, he's called TL Blizzard attendees progamers. LOL
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