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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 01 2008 19:33 GMT
#41
I would beat that noob on fucking slowest
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
May 01 2008 19:40 GMT
#42
That article made me hurt inside.

It's a real-time strategy game because it is in real-time. You're not supposed to have hours on end to think out what strategy you want to use to counter your opponents'. Any idiot can figure out how to beat what your opponent is doing if he's given an ample amount of time. What he wants is not strategy - it doesn't even happen in real life.

The most truly "strategic" thing in the world, the one that all strategic games are based off of, is real-life war. If real-life commanders applied his "give-me-a-couple-hours-to-think-this-through" philosophy, I'm sure that the results of many battles would have changed.
Super serious.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
May 01 2008 20:00 GMT
#43
So many people on that forum are defending Dan also. No I understand why Blizzard is so split on the issue, because they want $, and a ton of people who don't even care about competitive RTS gameplay are going to buy this game.

I don't know why you'd want to play a game badly, so I just assume everyone would want it geared towards a competitive style of play. I have no idea what these people would do with SC2, play campaign? Play a 2v2 once or twice a week with their friends on normal speed? I guess they can do that, and there will always be a normal speed. It's silly to complain that people who are (or try to be) good at the game play on fastest, they'll always do that, and you can play your casual games on normal with your friends.

But slow game speeds are never going to played competitively.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
May 01 2008 20:02 GMT
#44
i guess that guy never saw mid and late game first person views of progamers LOL
hello there
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
May 01 2008 20:05 GMT
#45
GUys fucking stupid. He wants to play connect the dots instead of multitasking ==
Nak Allstar.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5906 Posts
May 01 2008 20:08 GMT
#46
Heh, I admire the fact that the guys who wrote that "hate mail" (how ridiculous of Dan to call it this way...) kept cool all along. :O
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 01 2008 20:23 GMT
#47
On May 02 2008 03:21 ATeddyBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2008 03:16 JeeJee wrote:
I think he missed the part where you're supposed to think *while* doing all the micro/macro in starcraft. It's not like he'll win against pros even on normal speed (unless they fall asleep). I don't really see what point he's trying to make.

banned... dodger


Maybe you should stop playing your crappy gta and come 1v1 some more on hamachi
dodger.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-01 21:16:52
May 01 2008 20:27 GMT
#48
I don't want to make an account but if someone wants to reply for me to this:

"Sun Tzu and Hannibal weren't great generals because they could yell orders faster than anyone else."
Actually, they were. That wasn't all they did, they prepared excellently outside of battle as competitive RTS players do, but a large portion of their brilliance came from their ability to make quick decision. The double envelopment at Cannae would not have been successful had Varro been given more time to view and understand what the Carthaginians were doing. In fact, nearly every lopsided military defeat has happened because one side could not adequately comprehend and react to the situation they were given. Time and speed are important parts of tactical decisions and don't be so foolish as to think different armies use radically different formations and equipment. Since the author somehow wants to talk about realism in a fantasy game, if you remove the fast pace from warfare, then it would simply become a beancounting exercise where whoever had the superior numbers and equipment would win.

Now why don't we consider a reductio ad absurdam view of your argument. If slowing down the game requires more strategic thinking, then why don't we slow it down even further like to SC64 speeds? Playing the game on slowest would offer the most strategy oriented experience possible, and isn't that what we want? Of course this would be ridiculous, and in general we can say that after some time, giving us extra time to think about strategy and tactics really doesn't benefit us anymore. For you, extra time starts to diminish around the Normal speed setting or slower. Now when you talk to good players, not professionals, just good amateurs, I can almost guarantee you that they're going through an excess of strategic calculations in their head, so for them, time diminishes around the Fastest speed.

Well then isn't it just great that Blizzard offers us different speed settings, for you to play slower and for the quicker thinker to play faster?! Yes, I did call the good player a quicker thinker, just as a brilliant child can finish a math test in 10 minutes and it might take the better part of an hour for a less intelligent child to finish. This is a game, not a test however, so everyone should get a chance to play as you'd like and you absolutely do.
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5546 Posts
May 01 2008 20:50 GMT
#49
I signed up and posted. Hope i did good because im not good at arguing my point on message boards ;;
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
naventus
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1339 Posts
May 01 2008 21:00 GMT
#50
What a fucking stupid scrub.

He doesn't understand anything about a game, but decides that rather than admitting he doesn't understand it, he would rather claim that other people are playing the game incorrectly.

This is the worst filth of the planet.
hmm.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-01 21:02:36
May 01 2008 21:02 GMT
#51
On May 02 2008 05:50 jimminy_kriket wrote:
I signed up and posted. Hope i did good because im not good at arguing my point on message boards ;;

Please post what I said. <3 Actually, gimme 1 sec I'm gonna add some more.
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5546 Posts
May 01 2008 21:10 GMT
#52
you post it, i need backup in there, taking fire from all sides

SHIT THEY'RE EVERYWHERE
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 01 2008 21:15 GMT
#53
OK I EDITED MY POST NOW YOU POST IT ON THEIR BOARDS
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
May 01 2008 21:36 GMT
#54
IDEA: Think faster.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 01 2008 21:51 GMT
#55
also, one reason for France's stunning defeat in WW2 was because they were unused to the pace of war, and expected it to be slow strategic maneuvers
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
May 01 2008 22:06 GMT
#56
Absurd article. And to think that magazines are dying. PC Gamer has been a fat piece of shit for years now.
Late
Profile Joined August 2007
Latvia418 Posts
May 01 2008 22:06 GMT
#57
This Blog made my day.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-01 22:12:24
May 01 2008 22:09 GMT
#58
On May 02 2008 06:51 fusionsdf wrote:
also, one reason for France's stunning defeat in WW2 was because they were unused to the pace of war, and expected it to be slow strategic maneuvers


Stop to compare real life to broodwar.... Seriously if you think that Savior would make a good general you are an utterly retarded fanboy dork.

Make comparisons with other RTS, but please stop this bullshit it is terrible to read.


Seriously how can you dare to compare France defeat to a fucking whiner who dont know how to play video games ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
May 01 2008 22:10 GMT
#59
And wow, what a bunch of whiners on that forum. Dawn of War is too fast? Jesus.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
May 01 2008 22:23 GMT
#60
On May 02 2008 07:09 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2008 06:51 fusionsdf wrote:
also, one reason for France's stunning defeat in WW2 was because they were unused to the pace of war, and expected it to be slow strategic maneuvers


Stop to compare real life to broodwar.... Seriously if you think that Savior would make a good general you are an utterly retarded fanboy dork.

Make comparisons with other RTS, but please stop this bullshit it is terrible to read.


Seriously how can you dare to compare France defeat to a fucking whiner who dont know how to play video games ?

Do you know for a fact he wouldn't (after extensive military training, that is)?
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
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