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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
I just feel like I already wrote everything I needed to and it just feels redundant to write more. Man I feel bad, it's an horrible sensation of re-reading books and notes and having nothing to add. Whenever I read a paper, I feel like the author could have delivered the same message in half the pages. Uff. Any tips?   | ||
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Salivanth
Australia1071 Posts
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
On July 15 2014 21:51 Salivanth wrote: I'm no philosopher, so I'm unsure what the field is like, but is it possible for you to extend the scope of your thesis in some way, to allow you to write more relevant information? My thesis is on a position endorsed by X. Until now I wrote: -Introduction -Past positions on the same topic -X position -Critiques and reply to critiques -A contemporary approach on the position of X -Recap  | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
On July 15 2014 22:08 Cele wrote: first of all, about whom are you writing? Which author and which book exactly. Because if your writing about something like let's say Descartes Meditationes, you can write 100 pages for sure and you don't even have footnotes then (; Luis de Molina - De Concordia Late scholastics spanish jesuit who contributes to the whole foreknowledge and free will debate. Nobody knows him lol | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
A minimum page requirement is nonsense; when everything is said, everything is said. Maybe you should extend your thesis by a section on the stupidity of minimum page requirements. Considering that I fail at this myself, I can't really give you any advice though. Maybe if you can contrast your topic with other topics you could both find more stuff to write about your topic and at the same time get an excuse for writing about the other topics... EDIT: I just went to Wikipedia expecting at least a couple of pages on that dude. It's philosophy after all, those people like to write many pages of text. Boy was I in for a surprise. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On July 15 2014 22:09 SoSexy wrote: Luis de Molina - De Concordia Late scholastics spanish jesuit who contributes to the whole foreknowledge and free will debate. Nobody knows him lol True- i did loads of different stuff in philosophy and i didnt come across him. But if he's contributing to the free will debate, you should be able to write quite a bit about his influence on the debate and how his arguments can be aplied to contemporary discourse i imagine? it depends on your leading scientific Question though, if it is interesting enough it should allow you, to extend your understanding of his philosophy to modern approaches. I for instance did a work on Thomas Nagel- The view from Nowhere once, but it was only a short abstract. (10 pages roughly) I had enough to write about, but concerning his pov on the self, identity and epistemology in general, i could have rambled on his Position in Relation to Wittgenstein, Krippke and alike for a many more pages (; in short: sharpen your scientific Question and find out, where it's interesting beyond the descriptive analysis of de Molina himself. €: even more: talk to your professor about your issues! It's not a shame and in my experience a lot of them EXPECT you to keep close contact with them during the process of writing a master thesis. I still think it was a mistake of me not to do so myself. | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On July 15 2014 22:23 SoSexy wrote: Yeah Cele, what you say it's right. The problem is the enormous amount of pages I have left - if it was something like 5-10 pages more, I could try and squeeze them. But 70? @_@ i feel with you, i was in the same spot half a year ago. I had to reorganize my subject drastically and extend my approach on the literature. Then again i did my masters thesis in political science and it's a different beef there. | ||
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rafaliusz
Poland482 Posts
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
In all seriousness, this sounds like a type of punishment for academic dishonesty in some countries but I've never had the interest in philosophy to pursue it. It always felt so slippery, in a rather frustrating fashion to me. That being said I like Wittgenstein. | ||
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radscorpion9
Canada2252 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45937 Posts
Shit like that. I do literature reviews all the time when writing education papers. It shows you know more about the topic's background than just your tiniest focus. It's also a great page-waster. It's a lot of work, but you should be able to fill at least another 10-20 pages on what everyone else thinks, and how it all relates to your guy. Also talk about his other works and how his views have evolved over his life. | ||
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
But I'll manage it. And so will you. Just write...stuff. (Be detailed as fuck about everything.) The master's thesis is more like a gatekeeper than a real scientific effort. Once you've written that shit, you'll be ready for the real deal. Which is either life or a so-called career.  | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
I'd say: Start by clearly defining the scope of your topic. Do tons of research without spending too much time sorting/filtering it properly; what matters is that you are aware of the various theories/arguments. Write an outline. Fill the outline and add references from what you researched. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Dingodile
4139 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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TheEmulator
28100 Posts
On July 16 2014 01:41 endy wrote: I wrote my wife master's thesis in 10 days and got a very good grade while not even being a native English speaker. But the subject was marketing, aka common sense. Philosophy takes a lot of research unless you know all the references related to your topic by heart. I'd say: Start by clearly defining the scope of your topic. Do tons of research without spending too much time sorting/filtering it properly; what matters is that you are aware of the various theories/arguments. Write an outline. Fill the outline and add references from what you researched. wait what, you really wrote your wife's thesis and submitted it? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45937 Posts
On July 16 2014 03:43 TheEmulator wrote: wait what, you really wrote your wife's thesis and submitted it?  | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
edit: is the page length an official department requirement? if not, you might have enough ... in any case, i'd maybe go to your advisor and have them look at what you have so far and ask them to make suggestions. either they'll say it's fine as is or ask you to extend it in X, Y, Z way, which will be helpful, since then you'll know exactly what to elaborate upon. | ||
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BlaineLogan
Canada29 Posts
Make sure the scope is not too broad and not too focused. It seems obvious but I used to always think I was being very specific but I was actually speaking in very broad terms because I had not narrowed down my topic adequately. GL | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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polishedturd
United States505 Posts
On July 16 2014 03:43 TheEmulator wrote: wait what, you really wrote your wife's thesis and submitted it? that is seriously some wack ass shit | ||
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TheGloob
97 Posts
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zf
231 Posts
Edit: I'm only half kidding. Some of the best - and worst - philosophy articles I've read have contained page-length block quotations. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On July 16 2014 03:43 TheEmulator wrote: wait what, you really wrote your wife's thesis and submitted it? Yes, I really wrote the ~110ish pages. It was about brand loyalty and celebrity endorsement's impact on fashion retail. If by "submitted it" you mean that I had to do a presentation then no. There was no thesis defense, so no one noticed. The only hard evidence of research we had to submit together with the paper were audio recordings of the focus groups we conducted. As far as I know, in many countries you are not required to do a presentation of a thesis for Master's degree. I got my Master's degree in France and I didn't have to either. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17742 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On July 16 2014 13:53 Ilikestarcraft wrote: Why didn't your wife write her own thesis? She wrote a first version that was kinda bad and way too short, her written English wasn't very good, and it was the first time she had to write such a big paper so she had no proper methodology. Deadline was approaching. She did great at her finals, always was a good student, but we couldn't take the risk of failing the thesis, which would mean she'd have to stay another year in Ireland and I had just secured a job in China. So instead of trying to fix it I decided to rewrite it from scratch. Luckily, the subject was marketing which does not require any hard/technical skill. I don't wanna derail the blog further, I first mentioned my wife's thesis just to encourage OP and show him it was possible to write a decent 100+ pages paper in 10 days. Please PM me if more questions. | ||
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
On July 16 2014 03:01 Dingodile wrote: I dont understand this requirement. I know alot people can tell/explain a topic very very good in less words/sentences. In that case they have a disadvantage to people who arent good at it (most likely double so much words for the same topic with same coverage). That might be true, even though it's often a defensive position for people who simply aren't good writers - and this is meant as no offense, I had similar problems in high school. It's also a little flawed argument, if you're good at explaining things with a few words, you can also give examples and/or go into more details, see what Plexa wrote. If someone has a disadvantage here, it's the people who haven't been forced to train writing correctly over and over again, or the ones receiving little to no feedback from their mentors and peers. | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
Thank you for the great tips, I didn't expect this blog to have so many replies ^^ I will write an update about my thesis in the future | ||
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