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SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
July 15 2014 12:35 GMT
#1
So I'm in deep s***. I must write around 100 pages for my master's degree thesis in Philosophy but thing is that I have always been a scarce writer. If there were 20 pages to write, I would write 10 and have no idea at all how to feel the other 10. This is also happening now but it's a BIG trouble, because I am currently at page 30 and my mind is super blank.

I just feel like I already wrote everything I needed to and it just feels redundant to write more. Man I feel bad, it's an horrible sensation of re-reading books and notes and having nothing to add. Whenever I read a paper, I feel like the author could have delivered the same message in half the pages. Uff.

Any tips?

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Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
July 15 2014 12:51 GMT
#2
I'm no philosopher, so I'm unsure what the field is like, but is it possible for you to extend the scope of your thesis in some way, to allow you to write more relevant information?
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SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
July 15 2014 12:54 GMT
#3
On July 15 2014 21:51 Salivanth wrote:
I'm no philosopher, so I'm unsure what the field is like, but is it possible for you to extend the scope of your thesis in some way, to allow you to write more relevant information?


My thesis is on a position endorsed by X. Until now I wrote:

-Introduction
-Past positions on the same topic
-X position
-Critiques and reply to critiques
-A contemporary approach on the position of X
-Recap

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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
July 15 2014 13:08 GMT
#4
first of all, about whom are you writing? Which author and which book exactly. Because if your writing about something like let's say Descartes Meditationes, you can write 100 pages for sure and you don't even have footnotes then (;
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SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
July 15 2014 13:09 GMT
#5
On July 15 2014 22:08 Cele wrote:
first of all, about whom are you writing? Which author and which book exactly. Because if your writing about something like let's say Descartes Meditationes, you can write 100 pages for sure and you don't even have footnotes then (;


Luis de Molina - De Concordia

Late scholastics spanish jesuit who contributes to the whole foreknowledge and free will debate. Nobody knows him lol
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 13:15:24
July 15 2014 13:12 GMT
#6
I can feel with you. I always wrote less pages than required/expected whenever I had something to write (thank god I never had to write 100 pages on something, 30 on my bachelor's thesis was enough already, and that included tables and other non-text stuff).

A minimum page requirement is nonsense; when everything is said, everything is said. Maybe you should extend your thesis by a section on the stupidity of minimum page requirements.

Considering that I fail at this myself, I can't really give you any advice though. Maybe if you can contrast your topic with other topics you could both find more stuff to write about your topic and at the same time get an excuse for writing about the other topics...

EDIT: I just went to Wikipedia expecting at least a couple of pages on that dude. It's philosophy after all, those people like to write many pages of text. Boy was I in for a surprise.
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 13:23:51
July 15 2014 13:21 GMT
#7
On July 15 2014 22:09 SoSexy wrote:
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On July 15 2014 22:08 Cele wrote:
first of all, about whom are you writing? Which author and which book exactly. Because if your writing about something like let's say Descartes Meditationes, you can write 100 pages for sure and you don't even have footnotes then (;


Luis de Molina - De Concordia

Late scholastics spanish jesuit who contributes to the whole foreknowledge and free will debate. Nobody knows him lol


True- i did loads of different stuff in philosophy and i didnt come across him. But if he's contributing to the free will debate, you should be able to write quite a bit about his influence on the debate and how his arguments can be aplied to contemporary discourse i imagine? it depends on your leading scientific Question though, if it is interesting enough it should allow you, to extend your understanding of his philosophy to modern approaches. I for instance did a work on Thomas Nagel- The view from Nowhere once, but it was only a short abstract. (10 pages roughly) I had enough to write about, but concerning his pov on the self, identity and epistemology in general, i could have rambled on his Position in Relation to Wittgenstein, Krippke and alike for a many more pages (;

in short: sharpen your scientific Question and find out, where it's interesting beyond the descriptive analysis of de Molina himself.
€: even more: talk to your professor about your issues! It's not a shame and in my experience a lot of them EXPECT you to keep close contact with them during the process of writing a master thesis. I still think it was a mistake of me not to do so myself.
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SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
July 15 2014 13:23 GMT
#8
Yeah Cele, what you say it's right. The problem is the enormous amount of pages I have left - if it was something like 5-10 pages more, I could try and squeeze them. But 70? @_@
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
July 15 2014 13:25 GMT
#9
On July 15 2014 22:23 SoSexy wrote:
Yeah Cele, what you say it's right. The problem is the enormous amount of pages I have left - if it was something like 5-10 pages more, I could try and squeeze them. But 70? @_@


i feel with you, i was in the same spot half a year ago. I had to reorganize my subject drastically and extend my approach on the literature. Then again i did my masters thesis in political science and it's a different beef there.
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rafaliusz
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland482 Posts
July 15 2014 14:34 GMT
#10
Do you have any tutor that supervises your thesis? If so, try getting advice from him.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
July 15 2014 15:01 GMT
#11
Change the size of periods/commas to extend the length provided you don't have to supply a digital copy?

In all seriousness, this sounds like a type of punishment for academic dishonesty in some countries but I've never had the interest in philosophy to pursue it. It always felt so slippery, in a rather frustrating fashion to me. That being said I like Wittgenstein.
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
July 15 2014 15:09 GMT
#12
Oh man...I don't have much advice beyond talking to your supervisors, but I wish you a big good luck. If you think hard I'm sure you'll figure out something to talk about.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 15:34:44
July 15 2014 15:33 GMT
#13
Don't just involve critiques to his perspectives, but create a literature review of other philosophies that independently support or contradict him, to show where he stands in the sea of other great minds.

Shit like that. I do literature reviews all the time when writing education papers. It shows you know more about the topic's background than just your tiniest focus. It's also a great page-waster. It's a lot of work, but you should be able to fill at least another 10-20 pages on what everyone else thinks, and how it all relates to your guy.

Also talk about his other works and how his views have evolved over his life.
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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 16:30:55
July 15 2014 16:30 GMT
#14
I'm currently working on my master's thesis in history, and I'm struggling with a similiar problem. I always write my papers in one big blurb, and spends weeks on the concept and the organization of all the information. Right now, I'm almost done with the organization part, which means that I'll soon have to start writing. Usually, I can produce about 10 to 15 pages per day, but I DON'T WANT TO. It's highly irrational, but basically I don't want to write that shit. The topic is kind of interesting (radical reformation and the use of media), but I feel like I don't have anything relevant to say. On the other hand, I know that once my brain goes into overdrive, I will work like a maniac. But still, overcoming the procrastination hurdle was never as hard as it is right now.

But I'll manage it. And so will you. Just write...stuff. (Be detailed as fuck about everything.) The master's thesis is more like a gatekeeper than a real scientific effort. Once you've written that shit, you'll be ready for the real deal. Which is either life or a so-called career.
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 15 2014 16:41 GMT
#15
I wrote my wife master's thesis in 10 days and got a very good grade while not even being a native English speaker. But the subject was marketing, aka common sense. Philosophy takes a lot of research unless you know all the references related to your topic by heart.

I'd say: Start by clearly defining the scope of your topic. Do tons of research without spending too much time sorting/filtering it properly; what matters is that you are aware of the various theories/arguments. Write an outline. Fill the outline and add references from what you researched.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 17:35:55
July 15 2014 17:35 GMT
#16
I think the best advice is to be very nit picky when it comes to writing. Write every single detail you can and always try to expand. Compare and contrast to other philosophies, changes over the years etc... basically, the last couple of posts had some good stuff I would follow. You can probably even consider future possibilities due to the philosophy at hand. Best of luck!
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 15 2014 17:47 GMT
#17
Friend of mine is atm writing his master thesis in philosophy as well he he
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 18:02:55
July 15 2014 18:01 GMT
#18
I dont understand this requirement. I know alot people can tell/explain a topic very very good in less words/sentences. In that case they have a disadvantage to people who arent good at it (most likely double so much words for the same topic with same coverage).
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 15 2014 18:05 GMT
#19
quoting, quoting, quoting. You get +20% text if you just keep on (correctly!) copying text that someone else has already written. And always use phrases like: "as he himself put it best: *in-detail-quote*"
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28097 Posts
July 15 2014 18:43 GMT
#20
On July 16 2014 01:41 endy wrote:
I wrote my wife master's thesis in 10 days and got a very good grade while not even being a native English speaker. But the subject was marketing, aka common sense. Philosophy takes a lot of research unless you know all the references related to your topic by heart.

I'd say: Start by clearly defining the scope of your topic. Do tons of research without spending too much time sorting/filtering it properly; what matters is that you are aware of the various theories/arguments. Write an outline. Fill the outline and add references from what you researched.

wait what, you really wrote your wife's thesis and submitted it?
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