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United States10089 Posts
I know TL is probably not the best place to bring your family troubles but I really needed somewhere to rant and this is probably the only place I know.
I'm a second semester senior. By an overwhelming majority, this means that you can relax, not really care much about school as long as you are passing all your classes and staying out of trouble to graduate and go to college. my parents? nah, they still force me to study every damn day and force me to get Bs or else they take away "privileges" (unlimited texting... which does not impact my studying at all...)
Today my dad goes to my online gradebook and sees that I have a 72% in english honors right now with only 1 essay grade in, in which teacher was overall very disappointed in the ENTIRE CLASS. ofc, i already knew what they were going to tell me. the usual, "why are you playing games with this shit grade, you'll never graduate, how will you feel with a C on your transcript going into college?" hey guess what? ITS ONE FUCKING ESSAY GRADE GET OVER IT. oh, and my past marking period grades? 84, 90, 87 respectively. I am nowhere even near, hell, a C average for the year in english. so how about you get off my fucking back and take a seat. plus I have many english projects this quarter that will fluff up the grade substantially.
oh, and wait, after I tell them that I had already submitted many other english assignments for grading (one socratic seminar participation grade which I felt very confident about, and my senior speech outline which is honestly a fluff grade), and that colleges dont really care about your senior year so long as you didnt miserably fail any classes, AND that your high school transcript basically vanishes once you get into college, they say all this shit about how im making excuses. im sorry, im just telling you common sense information that pretty much everyone agrees on.
Sorry for the vent. If you've read it this far, I'm impressed that you managed to read through a high schooler's poorly thought out rant. I have one more favor to ask you. What would you tell your parents if they were acting like this and do senior year grades actually matter? I figured if my own parents cant believe me, then i'll need outside proof to back up my statements.
Thanks for reading.
FlaShFTW
 
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My parents didn't care what I did. I didn't even go to college  they just asked that I didn't end up in a gutter somewhere. I have a good job that pays well enough and am so glad I did not put myself through another 4/5 years of study... I think the exams are what really matter? I'm not sure, I have been out of high school for 5 years (holy shit!) and it has changed a lot since then.
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Hehehe, your parents would of hated me I graduated in the bottom 15 people of my high school because I was skipping so many days of school. The important thing is, I graduated though. Did just enough to scoot by.
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I was in your shoes for a long time. Just learn to deal with it, and don't let senioritis carry over to college (it did in my case...i really regret that)
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Hong Kong9151 Posts
for full effect, make sure to read this blog with linkin park playing in the background
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United States10089 Posts
On May 06 2014 12:12 imBLIND wrote:
I was in your shoes for a long time. Just learn to deal with it, and don't let senioritis carry over to college (it did in my case...i really regret that)
im not. im going to be quitting all my video games in july. and yet apparently they say thats an excuse too. ive had to deal with this for like my entire life already. im getting sick of it and today i just wanted to crawl up and cry.
On May 06 2014 12:15 itsjustatank wrote:
for full effect, make sure to read this blog with linkin park playing in the background
favorite band of all time
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The above two posts made me shoot gin and limeade out of my nose.
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On May 06 2014 12:15 itsjustatank wrote:
for full effect, make sure to read this blog with linkin park playing in the background
The music video of Numb does this blog justice...
As for the actual blog, I have Korean parents myself, and with me growing up here in the States, they obviously cared a lot about my grades and actually expected bad middle school grades to prevent me going to high school, which is the case in Korea, but obviously not here.
When I got to high school, they were, like you, always on my ass and lordy, my mom would never stop bitching at me about grades and this and that. After bitching about my grades, she would always find a way to relate something that she hates about me, like me exercising in the house or listening to too much music, or anything she found annoyed of me doing on that particular day.
Honestly, your best bet was to either deal with it, or just prove them wrong and get A's for every single class, ace all your IB/AP exams, and take part in extra curricular stuff for your junior year, which is sort of what I did, except for AP Physics, because fuck physics. High school is fairly easy in terms of tests/quizzes and the work they give you, it's just whether you decide to complete them or not.
Some advice that worked out with my parents, whom I believe are reasonable to an extent, but similar in the amount they bitch at you: make sure you remind them that not everyone actually gets accepted into college. It's not a right to go to college, it's an opportunity. Granted, nowadays, college is pretty iffy as to how much it'll lead up into the job market, but make sure you remind them. Also tell them that with high school, even though it isn't about the grades, it's about how you study and your habits and maintaining a healthy lifestyle throughout all of this. I know two friends, one who graduated 12 and another who graduated like, 30 something, both major in computer science, but while 12 is slacking off because he thought college would a breeze like high school, the other is going to San Diego this summer for a paid internship with Google for 3 months. They both attend UT Austin AND pretty much go to the same classes.
Seeing as it's May, hope you study well for AP exams or whatever finals you're about to take soon, and have fun graduating with prom (if it hasn't happened for you yet).
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IMO, senior/high school grades matter far less than some would lead you to believe. Case in point: my brother had some of the absolute shittiest high school grades imaginable. Just terrible grades. Comes back from his mormon mission and goes to community college for 2 or 3 semesters and does quite well. Ends up going to BYU and graduates Summa Cum Laude. He is now a tenured law professor at Ohio State University.
My point is that you can do shitty in high school, but well in something like a community college setting and still do really, really well in life.
(Edit: you still have to do well at some point in your academic career, it just doesn't have to be high school)
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On May 06 2014 12:15 itsjustatank wrote:
for full effect, make sure to read this blog with linkin park playing in the background
Crawwwwling in my skiinnnnnn
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Hong Kong9151 Posts
On May 06 2014 13:08 Mothra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2014 12:15 itsjustatank wrote:
for full effect, make sure to read this blog with linkin park playing in the background Crawwwwling in my skiinnnnnn
I KNOW
T-L
IS NOT
THE PLACE
TO BRING
MY TROUB-LES
BUT THIS
IS PROB-A-BLY
THE ON-LY
PLACE
I KN-OW
[. . .]
I need some place to rant that I'm a senior.
By majority, this means that,
you can relax, and not really care about school
as long as, you graduate
my parents still force me everyday to study all damn day...
(unlimited texting privileges don't impact my studying at all)
Today my dad goes online
and and sees that I HAVE C'S
IN ENG-LISH
HON-ORS NOW
WITH ON-LY
ONE GRADE IN
"WHY ARE
YOU PLAYING
GAMES
WITH SUCH A
SHITTY GRADE?"
[. . .]
hey guess what? It's just one essay grade
Get over it. oh, and my
past marking
period grades? 84, 90, and 87
respectively. I am nowhere
even near, hell, a C average for the year in english.
(so how about you get off my fucking back and take a seat.)
plus I have projects that will FLUFF UP THE GRADE
OH, AND WAIT,
AF-TER I
TELL THEM
THAT
I HA-D
AL-READY
SUB-MITT-ED
O-THER THINGS
FOR GRAD-ING
I TOLD THEM
THAT COLLEGE
DON'T REALLY
CARE A-BOUT
YOUR YEAR SORRY
FOR THE
VENT THANKS
FOR READING
FLASHFTW
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On May 06 2014 13:06 Kaizen[7] wrote:
IMO, senior/high school grades matter far less than some would lead you to believe. Case in point: my brother had some of the absolute shittiest high school grades imaginable. Just terrible grades. Comes back from his mormon mission and goes to community college for 2 or 3 semesters and does quite well. Ends up going to BYU and graduates Summa Cum Laude. He is now a tenured law professor at Ohio State University.
My point is that you can do shitty in high school, but well in something like a community college setting and still do really, really well in life.
(Edit: you still have to do well at some point in your academic career, it just doesn't have to be high school)
Cause honestly high school isn't shit. A lot of teenagers don't know what they really want in life until they become fully fledged adults. I know I had my head up my ass all the way up until my early 20s. Then I realized that I needed to change my life and be responsible
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OP don't let your parents stress you out. Just relax and take life one day at a time. Life is too short.
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On May 06 2014 13:21 itsjustatank wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2014 13:08 Mothra wrote:On May 06 2014 12:15 itsjustatank wrote:
for full effect, make sure to read this blog with linkin park playing in the background Crawwwwling in my skiinnnnnn I KNOW T-L IS NOT THE PLACE TO BRING MY TROUB-LES BUT THIS IS PROB-AB-LY THE ON-LY PLACE I KN-OW [. . .] I need some place to rant that I'm a senior. By majority, this means that, you can relax, and not really care about school as long as, you graduate my parents still force me everyday to study all damn day... (unlimited texting privileges don't impact my studying at all) Today my dad goes online and and sees that I have Cs IN ENG-LISH HONORS NOW WITH ON-LY ONE GRADE IN "WHY ARE YOU PLAYING GAMES WITH SUCH A SHITTY GRADE?" [. . .] hey guess what? It's just one essay grade. Get over it. oh, and my past marking period grades? 84, 90, 87 respectively. I am nowhere even near, (hell, a C average for the year in english. so how about you get off my fucking back and take a seat.) plus I have projects that will fluff up the grade OH, AND WAIT, AF-TER I TELL THEM THAT I HAD AL-READY SUB-MITT-ED OTHER THINGS FOR GRADING I TOLD THEM THAT COLLEGE DONT REALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR YEAR SORRY FOR THE VENT THANKS FOR READING FLASHFTW
I just wanna take a moment to say that this post is magical.
Also, be glad you get to take this time off as relaxation, for me, this was the most stressful time of my life last year. It was awful, and my parents were telling me to lighten up  .
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Yeah I feel for you man, I'm pretty sure you gave me some advice in my blogs actually about the same kind of stuff. My situation seems extraordinarily similar to yours except I was just getting a B- in Bio. You're almost done though, if you got into the college that you want, great for you, your parents should be happy for you when you graduate. Just ride this storm out, you're at the final hurdle and you'll be away from your parents at college.
Graduation is going to be great for you, but some advice is know when to throw your damn graduation hat, don't jump the gun and embarrass yourself
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Blog is too short and you didn't capitalize the fourth paragraph. B+. A- at best.
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You've got noob Asian parents. My parents would kill me if I got B's. Count your blessings you lucky bastard.
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On May 06 2014 13:47 obesechicken13 wrote:
Blog is too short and you didn't capitalize the fourth paragraph. B+. A- at best.
Didn't capitalize 'I'll' at the end of the fifth paragraph either. A- is reaching a bit, I think.
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TLADT24920 Posts
Honestly, I would say prove them wrong. Do the extra work, raise up whatever grade they have a problem with and show them that you are capable of getting those grades all while doing other stuff on the side (gaming, extracurricular activities etc...). Arguing with your parents won't change anything. The only thing that'll happen is that there would be tension between you guys which would make living harder to do.
It's much easier to make peace with it than fight it. Your dad said that its 72%? You're right dad, I will work harder on the next assignment and then just do better on the next one and show it to them. Still not satisfied? I'll continue trying harder. I think most parents are satisfied if they see their son working hard so that even with the end result, they know you are trying your best. I'm sure that applies to asian parents as well. Working hard now will also help you out when you get to college. You don't need to give up gaming or anything like that either. Just work hard and game on the side.
As for them mattering or not, I dunno how it works like in the US. Up here, grade 12 marks(guessing those are the equivalent to yours) can determine if you get any entrance scholarships and their amount etc... so they do have some bearing. Some of the harder programs actually require 85% or more while most are around 70% or so, so the higher average that you have, the better chance you'll get into your program. Again, this is the general Canadian system, dunno how it compares to US but regardless, better marks can't hurt
Also, for being completely subjective, I'll give you your first C in english!
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wtf ur parents settle for Bs? That's pretty lenient for Asian parents. Anything less than A was unacceptable for me.
Step up your Asian game....
Just curious, which college are you attending in the fall?
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I'm in a university in a pretty hard course (not some hell but harder than most others here) and me an my parents celebrate me passing shit (which sometimes doesn't happen). I feel or you.
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You'll thank them later, trust me. (giving you working habits. School was so easy for me that i ignored their advice to still work and.... I failed afterwards.)
It is the right time to get a good work ethic that will be useful all your life, and even if it pisses you off they are not happy right now and don't let you do as you want, you WILL understand and be grateful in a few years.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49647 Posts
On May 06 2014 13:21 itsjustatank wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2014 13:08 Mothra wrote:On May 06 2014 12:15 itsjustatank wrote:
for full effect, make sure to read this blog with linkin park playing in the background Crawwwwling in my skiinnnnnn + Show Spoiler +
I KNOW
T-L
IS NOT
THE PLACE
TO BRING
MY TROUB-LES
BUT THIS
IS PROB-A-BLY
THE ON-LY
PLACE
I KN-OW
[. . .]
I need some place to rant that I'm a senior.
By majority, this means that,
you can relax, and not really care about school
as long as, you graduate
my parents still force me everyday to study all damn day...
(unlimited texting privileges don't impact my studying at all)
Today my dad goes online
and and sees that I HAVE C'S
IN ENG-LISH
HON-ORS NOW
WITH ON-LY
ONE GRADE IN
"WHY ARE
YOU PLAYING
GAMES
WITH SUCH A
SHITTY GRADE?"
[. . .]
hey guess what? It's just one essay grade
Get over it. oh, and my
past marking
period grades? 84, 90, and 87
respectively. I am nowhere
even near, hell, a C average for the year in english.
(so how about you get off my fucking back and take a seat.)
plus I have projects that will FLUFF UP THE GRADE
OH, AND WAIT,
AF-TER I
TELL THEM
THAT
I HA-D
AL-READY
SUB-MITT-ED
O-THER THINGS
FOR GRAD-ING
I TOLD THEM
THAT COLLEGE
DON'T REALLY
CARE A-BOUT
YOUR YEAR SORRY
FOR THE
VENT THANKS
FOR READING
FLASHFTW
15/10
great lyrics.
in my case, mom's been pretty ok as long as I didn't fuck up my exams.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51451 Posts
On May 06 2014 13:21 itsjustatank wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2014 13:08 Mothra wrote:On May 06 2014 12:15 itsjustatank wrote:
for full effect, make sure to read this blog with linkin park playing in the background Crawwwwling in my skiinnnnnn I KNOW T-L IS NOT THE PLACE TO BRING MY TROUB-LES BUT THIS IS PROB-A-BLY THE ON-LY PLACE I KN-OW [. . .] I need some place to rant that I'm a senior. By majority, this means that, you can relax, and not really care about school as long as, you graduate my parents still force me everyday to study all damn day... (unlimited texting privileges don't impact my studying at all) Today my dad goes online and and sees that I HAVE C'S IN ENG-LISH HON-ORS NOW WITH ON-LY ONE GRADE IN "WHY ARE YOU PLAYING GAMES WITH SUCH A SHITTY GRADE?" [. . .] hey guess what? It's just one essay grade Get over it. oh, and my past marking period grades? 84, 90, and 87 respectively. I am nowhere even near, hell, a C average for the year in english. (so how about you get off my fucking back and take a seat.) plus I have projects that will FLUFF UP THE GRADE OH, AND WAIT, AF-TER I TELL THEM THAT I HA-D AL-READY SUB-MITT-ED O-THER THINGS FOR GRAD-ING I TOLD THEM THAT COLLEGE DON'T REALLY CARE A-BOUT YOUR YEAR SORRY FOR THE VENT THANKS FOR READING FLASHFTW
Quite clear how you got your TL Pen. Holy shit /clap
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I feel you. Trust me, I really do.
+ Show Spoiler +
I have Asian parents, I know what it's like for them to constantly nag; I always felt like I was in control of my situation, I'm the one who knew how to handle my own business. Their meddling was annoying, why couldn't they just see that I could take care of things? Still, give credit where credit is due. Your parents want 100% of your effort and nothing less, which is a valuable mindset to have.
I read a blog post recently. You should too: http://affectiveliving.wordpress.com/2014/03/08/what-students-really-need-to-hear/
Not saying I agree completely with the blog post, but he makes some great points. You're right - a lousy English essay grade won't matter. But at the end of the day, you're typing a paragraph about how you did get a C but it doesn't matter and everyone else did poorly too and you always get high marks in English so your essay grade isn't indicative of anything else, and plus since when did high school grades dictate your future prospects, etc. etc.
Meanwhile, you could have typed a simple sentence instead: "I got an A on my essay." That's all there is to it.
It's hard to stay motivated when the stakes are low, but keep in mind that complacency is a drug. Don't try to justify your performance; take your parents' nagging as a challenge to improve yourself. Because really, it's not about satisfying your parents - it's about ensuring that you'll never satisfy yourself. Strive higher
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do you know where you wanna go in life? where are you going for college? what kind of college student u gonna be? what gonna pay?
i get caught up with my parents too really my baggage with how they try to deal with me usually just gets in the way of thinking about getting what i really want for myself
as for your question of what to tell them, it really depends on how badly they could potentially react, but they should know that
1. you're going to survive no matter what, they've raised you well enough and you're clever enough to do well where it matters, and you have a good sense of priorities and the big picture. (BUT DO YOU!?!?)
2. tell them why you're getting the grades and put it in perspective
these are kind of questions for you too though
what are you learning in class? i know high school english can seem like... dull and fluffy, especially for certain types, but you should read good literature on your own, it helps you grow emotionally and actually gain a big picture view of the world. this sounds like generic condescending bullshit, but... i feel compelled to bullshit it
what's your big picture plan? if you arent getting perfect grades where's that time going? i wasted a lot of time in high school but i still did the academics (can't say the same for college l o l)
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Next birthday/christmas present for parents:
Pop-psychology book on how pressure fucks up your kids.
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If i where you i would try to understand better their point of view instead of trying to convince them of yours. This may seem like cheap talk in high school but later it pays off.Your grades are only important to get into future schools, other than that grades are not that important. It doesn' t determinate what you know, how much you are of value; it determinates your options later on so to speak, as to what kind of school you can get into. Studying hard now gives you an advantage later in terms of discipline in whatever field you decide to work/study in. Its your life. You can live it the way you want to. If you just try to oppose your parents or try to become what they want to you have failed. Doesn' t matter what road you take to get there, make sure you end up doing what you want to do; Thats what your parents want i' m sure they would agree, in an asian-esque way
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At least your parents care. Besides what the fuck else are you doing that's so important right now? Texting a bunch of people? Playing SC2?
I get the screaming for independence part, but you're about to see way less of your parents when you go to college and subsequently enter the "real" world afterwards, it'll come soon enough.
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itsjustatank's post gained you this 5/5
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In 10 years, you'll thank them for not letting you get into a "slacking" mentality. There is a fine line between thinking "yeah, this isn't important, i can slack off" and actually slacking when you shouldn't be, which on assignments in probably the worst education system in the world is probably when you shouldn't be.
My mother never gave a single shit if i'm honest and i screwed it all up by slacking completely, i could have done far, far better with a kick up my ass like you had.
They basically want to prepare you for when they aren't there to kick you up the ass so you don't slack off when you shouldn't be.
*Italics placed because american education isn't bad, just its system of college / uni / money $$$, getting accepted into a "good" place is required or people lol at your degrees and shit.
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As others have said there is a lot to be grateful about having parents whom push you and want you to succeed, although it sounds like your parents maybe blowing this one result out of proportion.
Being good academically is not necessarily something you can just switch on an off when you want to and slacking off can definitely limit your skill ceiling permanently. First and foremost I think parents should want their kids to be happy but it easy to see why they would want their kids to get good jobs that pay well and they enjoy because the rest of their adult life is constructed around this scaffolding.
I think video gamers understand the concept of grinding more than most, and unfortunately that is what education is especially at the secondary level. The only currency is effort- you get out what you put in. Nothing wrong with aiming to be a high achiever.
After saying all that I think having balance and being able to enjoy life, video games and friendships is important rather than becoming some person who grinds away 24/7 and lets their youth pass them by.
TL;DR- don't worry about your parents, everyone rages at them. They just want the best for you. Keep up the good work.
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On May 06 2014 11:45 FlaShFTW wrote:What would you tell your parents if they were acting like this and do senior year grades actually matter?
I'd start by telling my dad that if he wanted to tell me what to do with myself he shouldn't have walked out of my life when I was 5. Then I'd remind my mom of how I got an almost full ride to college based entirely on my SAT scores which had nothing to do with my B- average in high school and how much money that will be saving her. Once you get to college, your high school grades no longer matter. Consider how different grading systems work at many different high schools and how impossible it really is to compare them in the first place, and recognize that your grades were worth maybe 20% of your application, if that. A little known secret about colleges is that many accept people based on quotas: like they want to get 50 people from new york and 40 people from boston, but if someone from texas applies they will have more leniency because they represent diversity. If the swim coach needs someone to swim butterfly that year, then some lucky butterflyer with a C average is going to get lucky. but if you happen to be the 41st person in the boston pile of applications you're SOL. + Show Spoiler +Here's another bit of wisdom for you; future employers don't give a shit about your college grades either
That said, you're a smart dude so it should be pretty easy for you to get some good grades without any real effort. It might be worth it just to make your parents happy (or to shut them up for a couple months). Are you going away to school? Go forth and live the college life. Get good grades not to appease your parents, but because you want to learn all you can and because you're now in college and can study the things that truly interest you. Do as much as you can. Go to every class, don't skip. Join a sports team or club. Go to parties and make bad choices. In 4 or 5 years your worries will be much more real so make the most of it now!
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You need to remind yourself that you are a high school student, and nothing you say or do matters.
Alternative answer: No, fuck *you* DAD!
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just deal with it, until you are on your own. I'd rather have parents who were annoying but pushed me than those who didn't care how I ended up. This is ofc looking back, when I was in your position I was ignoring them and doing stupid shit lol
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What? I didn't know getting B's in highschool was a thing.
It's for your own good.
Independently of how much your senior year's grades matter for your college acceptance, you shouldn't be half-assing your studies. Mediocrity can develop into a habit. I'm not saying you should study for hours every day, but do the bare minimum to keep A's, which isn't very much. You'll probably understand this better in 5-6 years.
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"Ninety-nine [students] out of a hundred are automata, careful to walk in prescribed paths, careful to follow the prescribed custom. This is not an accident but the result of substantial education, which, scientifically defined, is the subsumption of the individual."
-William Torrey Harris, the most influential Commissioner of Education in US history
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On May 07 2014 06:46 IgnE wrote:
"Ninety-nine [students] out of a hundred are automata, careful to walk in prescribed paths, careful to follow the prescribed custom. This is not an accident but the result of substantial education, which, scientifically defined, is the subsumption of the individual."
-William Torrey Harris, the most influential Commissioner of Education in US history
that's total bullshit lol
what a horribly simplistic masturbatory quotation
i bet 99/100 wankers reading it think they're the 1/100 too
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you problem isn't that you have asian parents, it's that you have no money, and you have to rely on economic subsidies from someone else. He who has the $ calls the shots.
edit: if you think your parents are cutting you a shitty deal, why not just condemn/renounce them and go find some better parents? rofl
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On May 07 2014 09:27 Kalingingsong wrote:
you problem isn't that you have asian parents, it's that you have no money, and you have to rely on economic subsidies from someone else. He who has the $ calls the shots.
edit: if you think your parents are cutting you a shitty deal, why not just condemn/renounce them and go find some better parents? rofl
false dichotomy, those things aren't mutually exclusive at all
certain parents do have a certain nagging and uncompromising way of dealing with kids that really wears on them over time. asian kids in communities with other asian kids notice that asian parents tend to be the parents who are most like this (jewish parents are somewhat similar). the power structure is the big picture but the details of the interactions matter too
im not saying the parents are in the wrong, i'm just saying that as asian parents i do stereotype them as likely being more overly focused on grades (especially in questionable education systems) and shit like that. just like if i saw a black kid in a hoodie i'd probably stereotype him as having a taste for basketball shoes
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On May 07 2014 09:35 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2014 09:27 Kalingingsong wrote:
you problem isn't that you have asian parents, it's that you have no money, and you have to rely on economic subsidies from someone else. He who has the $ calls the shots.
edit: if you think your parents are cutting you a shitty deal, why not just condemn/renounce them and go find some better parents? rofl false dichotomy, those things aren't mutually exclusive at all asian parents do have a certain nagging and uncompromising way of dealing with kids that really wears on you over time. the power structure is the big picture but the details of the interactions matter too
Not sure if we are talking about the same thing.
Ultimately, whether OP's parents are acting reasonably or not, the real source of their power is still their money. So practically the real question the OP should be concerned about is how to get his own money as fast as possible.
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On May 07 2014 09:40 Kalingingsong wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2014 09:35 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On May 07 2014 09:27 Kalingingsong wrote:
you problem isn't that you have asian parents, it's that you have no money, and you have to rely on economic subsidies from someone else. He who has the $ calls the shots.
edit: if you think your parents are cutting you a shitty deal, why not just condemn/renounce them and go find some better parents? rofl false dichotomy, those things aren't mutually exclusive at all asian parents do have a certain nagging and uncompromising way of dealing with kids that really wears on you over time. the power structure is the big picture but the details of the interactions matter too Not sure if we are talking about the same thing. Ultimately, whether OP's parents are acting reasonably or not, the real source of their power is still their money. So practically the real question the OP should be concerned about is how to get his own money as fast as possible.
he isn't discussing the possibility of leaving his parents / gaining independence from them right now as a high school senior, what OP are you reading?
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On May 07 2014 09:42 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2014 09:40 Kalingingsong wrote:On May 07 2014 09:35 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On May 07 2014 09:27 Kalingingsong wrote:
you problem isn't that you have asian parents, it's that you have no money, and you have to rely on economic subsidies from someone else. He who has the $ calls the shots.
edit: if you think your parents are cutting you a shitty deal, why not just condemn/renounce them and go find some better parents? rofl false dichotomy, those things aren't mutually exclusive at all asian parents do have a certain nagging and uncompromising way of dealing with kids that really wears on you over time. the power structure is the big picture but the details of the interactions matter too Not sure if we are talking about the same thing. Ultimately, whether OP's parents are acting reasonably or not, the real source of their power is still their money. So practically the real question the OP should be concerned about is how to get his own money as fast as possible. he isn't discussing the possibility of leaving his parents / gaining independence from them right now as a high school senior, what OP are you reading?
I know that's not what he said, but I'm just suggesting the possibility.
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i'm pretty sure it's implied that he's going off to college in a few months, and i guess his independence from there depends on whether or not his parents pay him through (my parents paid me through but i think that made me care about my academics at college less for some reason)
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On May 07 2014 09:16 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2014 06:46 IgnE wrote:
"Ninety-nine [students] out of a hundred are automata, careful to walk in prescribed paths, careful to follow the prescribed custom. This is not an accident but the result of substantial education, which, scientifically defined, is the subsumption of the individual."
-William Torrey Harris, the most influential Commissioner of Education in US history that's total bullshit lol what a horribly simplistic masturbatory quotation i bet 99/100 wankers reading it think they're the 1/100 too
It's not aspirational. You don't seem to get it.
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On May 07 2014 09:59 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2014 09:16 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On May 07 2014 06:46 IgnE wrote:
"Ninety-nine [students] out of a hundred are automata, careful to walk in prescribed paths, careful to follow the prescribed custom. This is not an accident but the result of substantial education, which, scientifically defined, is the subsumption of the individual."
-William Torrey Harris, the most influential Commissioner of Education in US history that's total bullshit lol what a horribly simplistic masturbatory quotation i bet 99/100 wankers reading it think they're the 1/100 too It's not aspirational. You don't seem to get it.
please explicate your interpretation of the quotation for me, with as much context as you think necessary, as well as what consequences follow said interpretation
what do you think is meant by "subsumption"?
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It's a quote from the man who was the spiritual founder of the American school system. It indicates the intended (and realized) design of the school system. You are supposed to be subsumed into the productive public.
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On May 07 2014 10:25 IgnE wrote:
It's a quote from the man who was the spiritual founder of the American school system. It indicates the intended (and realized) design of the school system. You are supposed to be subsumed into the productive public.
i don't see how this is deep at all
or how it has anything to do with this situation
what the fuck
like do you think america invented capitalism and working and the idea that kids grow up to work? what??!?!?!
god i hate you
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No, Germany invented modern schooling.
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do you realize how much of your own time you waste with worthless original thoughts
once you do maybe you'll realize how much of other's people's time you waste too
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You've never had one so I guess that's fair.
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I hope things get better.
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Advice for College: Hang out with smart people, it will make you smarter, it will be easier to study and you'll get more opportunities later. Of course, that doesn't prevent you from partying, but don't make the partying people your main friends.
As for now, chillax, you only have a few more months to go. Make sure your parents give you more breathing space in college, but don't end up not going to classes and not studying in time just because you can (or because have something fun to do - there's always something more fun to do out there but that doesn't mean you should quit studying).
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