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Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
October 10 2013 21:08 GMT
#1
I usually don't use adblocks - I think that is quite an assholish thing to do when ads are often the only source of income for people that make the stuff you enjoy watching.

But twitch.tv has lately been totally shameless with abusing ads. A mandatory ad will play when you open or refresh a stream. Ads will start playing at random times - often in the middle of final engagement in Dota or Starcraft broadcasts. Ads often get stuck looping forever until you manually refresh the page and then - guess what - you still have to watch another ad until you get to your content. Somehow I don't believe that doesn't happen on purpose.

Well, congratulations twitch for being the first company that made me install an adblock.

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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
October 10 2013 21:09 GMT
#2
Twitch, specifically proleague, did the same to me.
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Kfish
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Chile282 Posts
October 10 2013 21:29 GMT
#3
Do streamers get more money out of ads or subscriptions?

If they get more through subscriptions, then I'd be ok using adblock and subscribing because I agree, too many ads is terrible. I'm ok with a moderate amount, but if it hinders the experience (random ads making you miss important stuff) then its not ok!
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 10 2013 21:31 GMT
#4
If you subscribe then you don't need to use adblock (on that stream).

Streamers would make wildly more money if everybody subscribed over just watching ads, however I'm guessing that many streamers make more from ads than from subscriptions currently (since they might average 3000 viewers but only have 50 subscribers).
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 10 2013 21:37 GMT
#5
When I watch streams on Twitch (usually not DotA or Starcraft, but rather LoL and MtG), I only get the ad at the start and ads that the streamers themselves launch manually. No such thing as bad ad timing.

So isn't it rather a problem of the streamer than Twitch? Bad settings, bad ad policy, I don't know?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
October 10 2013 21:42 GMT
#6
It isn't the end of the world or anything lol, but I hate it when I'm watching a stream from my bed or whatever and I gotta get up to click the "skip ad" button because every ad now is one of those. And then I gotta sit there and wait because there are 4 more ads on the way.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44317 Posts
October 10 2013 21:52 GMT
#7
A mandatory ad will play when you open or refresh a stream.


This has always happened for me... it's nothing new... but I don't know why you get ads in the middle of the game :/
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 10 2013 21:58 GMT
#8
I'll stick to being an ass by editing host files and blocking everything. I prefer to enjoy my entertainment without interruption, then again most of the streamers I watch are not people that solely rely on twitch.tv as their income. Tired of the barrage of random ads that ruin the experience.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 10 2013 22:13 GMT
#9
Twitch has gotten so much better in the last two weeks. Seems like they finally opened up new VOD servers. Props.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
October 10 2013 22:28 GMT
#10
On October 11 2013 06:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
If you subscribe then you don't need to use adblock (on that stream).

Streamers would make wildly more money if everybody subscribed over just watching ads, however I'm guessing that many streamers make more from ads than from subscriptions currently (since they might average 3000 viewers but only have 50 subscribers).


I don't really like the idea of subscription to specific streams, because I don't actually follow individual streamers or even games. Usually I just watch whatever I can catch when I have some free time - that could be Dota, Starcraft, CS or something different, that could be a tournament or a player's stream or a show etc.

So that model doesn't really work for me. Instead I would like to have more control over when the ads are shown, like you have to get 3 ads per hour and you have a button to roll an ad, and if you don't click that button then the ads will run at the end of the hour, or something like that.

Also I think twitch has an overall subscription, but I am not sure how (and if) the streamers get revenue from that.
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 22:37:56
October 10 2013 22:33 GMT
#11
On October 11 2013 06:37 spinesheath wrote:
When I watch streams on Twitch (usually not DotA or Starcraft, but rather LoL and MtG), I only get the ad at the start and ads that the streamers themselves launch manually. No such thing as bad ad timing.

So isn't it rather a problem of the streamer than Twitch? Bad settings, bad ad policy, I don't know?


Well today during Starladder Dota games I was spammed with ads, I missed teamfights because ads randomly decided to show, and I missed post-match xboct interview because I got that infinite-ads-until-you-refresh issue. Now I hate that PS3 game with Ellen Page for no good reason because that particular ad was running over and over :-D And that wasn't the only time, it has been happening all the time recently.

But I think you may be right, maybe it is an issue with the streamers' ads policy rather than twitch.tv's.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
October 11 2013 00:14 GMT
#12
I was watching WCS Europe in the background at work, and I noticed like every 1minute a ad would play. Especially during breaks, it was ad-ad-ad-ad-ad-ad-ad for like 10m straight.

Too much of a hassle to get IT to install adblock so I don't even bother watching anymore
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
October 11 2013 00:38 GMT
#13
Yeah I dont mind watching ads usually but the ones that make you manually skip else watch a 10 minute commercial (one of them is literally a fucking hour) are really annoying.
ElizarTringov
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Bulgaria317 Posts
October 11 2013 00:41 GMT
#14
I don't see why you would watch ads in the first place. It's not up to you to give money to the players or twitch.tv for that matter. It up to them to convince YOU that they are so valuable that they get you to take your wallet out and pay them. Not only that its up to them to FORCE you to take out your wallet and pay if you really want to watch them. Instead they try to tiptoe around that whole thing and put ads on the streams. Instead you go and watch stupid ads and then complain about it.

It would be FAR better for you to have adblock, for EVERYONE to have adblock, because then the marketing team of all those companies would realize its not working for them to use ads in videos and would take their ads off twitch.tv. The marketing team of companies would have to find a better way to market their products/services and twitch tv would have to find a better way to market their products so as to get clients paying. If people don't mind paying 3,4,5 bucks a late from Starbucks on an almost daily basis what would be the problem with them paying 5,10,20 bucks a month to watch their favorite streams? If they really don't see the value in it, then they would stop, if they did then they would GLADLY pay that price.

Hell people pay 60bucks to watch UFC, 60bucks to watch a top boxing card. What would people rather have? Have their time wasted watching ads, or pay money to see something they love watching? Use adblock! Business will have to find new and innovative ways to market their products/services. It's their job to get you to buy their products, not your job to help them brainwash you with ads.
Perfect practice makes perfect.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 01:04:04
October 11 2013 00:52 GMT
#15
On October 11 2013 09:41 ElizarTringov wrote:
I don't see why you would watch ads in the first place. It's not up to you to give money to the players or twitch.tv for that matter. It up to them to convince YOU that they are so valuable that they get you to take your wallet out and pay them. Not only that its up to them to FORCE you to take out your wallet and pay if you really want to watch them. Instead they try to tiptoe around that whole thing and put ads on the streams. Instead you go and watch stupid ads and then complain about it.

It would be FAR better for you to have adblock, for EVERYONE to have adblock, because then the marketing team of all those companies would realize its not working for them to use ads in videos and would take their ads off twitch.tv. The marketing team of companies would have to find a better way to market their products/services and twitch tv would have to find a better way to market their products so as to get clients paying. If people don't mind paying 3,4,5 bucks a late from Starbucks on an almost daily basis what would be the problem with them paying 5,10,20 bucks a month to watch their favorite streams? If they really don't see the value in it, then they would stop, if they did then they would GLADLY pay that price.

Hell people pay 60bucks to watch UFC, 60bucks to watch a top boxing card. What would people rather have? Have their time wasted watching ads, or pay money to see something they love watching? Use adblock! Business will have to find new and innovative ways to market their products/services. It's their job to get you to buy their products, not your job to help them brainwash you with ads.

I can understand installing adblock when a site is bugged or ad spams you, but you're suggesting that we install adblock specifically to force people to make us pay for their product. I'd rather sacrifice a few seconds of my time every 5-30 minutes than shell out hard cash and heck, most people would too.
A lot of the views for Youtube channels and streams come from casual viewers and people just sampling the content. Putting up a paywall would drive away those colossal demographics and block new viewers from sampling and maybe subscribing to channels. If that happens, hundreds of content producers and many thousands of viewers would be robbed of content and cash.
Playing hardball with content producers helps no one. We all come away from this poorer if we drive guys out of business.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
ElizarTringov
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Bulgaria317 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 01:13:48
October 11 2013 01:05 GMT
#16
On October 11 2013 09:52 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 09:41 ElizarTringov wrote:
I don't see why you would watch ads in the first place. It's not up to you to give money to the players or twitch.tv for that matter. It up to them to convince YOU that they are so valuable that they get you to take your wallet out and pay them. Not only that its up to them to FORCE you to take out your wallet and pay if you really want to watch them. Instead they try to tiptoe around that whole thing and put ads on the streams. Instead you go and watch stupid ads and then complain about it.

It would be FAR better for you to have adblock, for EVERYONE to have adblock, because then the marketing team of all those companies would realize its not working for them to use ads in videos and would take their ads off twitch.tv. The marketing team of companies would have to find a better way to market their products/services and twitch tv would have to find a better way to market their products so as to get clients paying. If people don't mind paying 3,4,5 bucks a late from Starbucks on an almost daily basis what would be the problem with them paying 5,10,20 bucks a month to watch their favorite streams? If they really don't see the value in it, then they would stop, if they did then they would GLADLY pay that price.

Hell people pay 60bucks to watch UFC, 60bucks to watch a top boxing card. What would people rather have? Have their time wasted watching ads, or pay money to see something they love watching? Use adblock! Business will have to find new and innovative ways to market their products/services. It's their job to get you to buy their products, not your job to help them brainwash you with ads.

So what you're suggesting is that we pay actual money for something, instead of getting it for free and sacrificing a few seconds of our time every 5-30 minutes of content?
You must either earn a lot of money, or not know how to spend it too well. I can understand installing adblock when a site is bugged or ad spams you, but you're suggesting that we install adblock specifically to force people to make us pay for their product. Not a good deal if you ask me.


Except like people indicated it happens way too often. Plenty of people don't earn a lot of money but they still spend money on the things they love. Why shouldn't it be the case with this? I never said take sample content of youtube or anywhere else. How do you know it would drive them out of business? The commercials are already driving people off the videos, or they are making people use adblock, therefore the ads never reach the viewer anyways and twitch doesnt get paid! If people are so unwilling to pay for the content then it simply means they don't want it or appreciate it, so then the business DESERVES to be put under.
Perfect practice makes perfect.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 03:02:01
October 11 2013 01:37 GMT
#17
On October 11 2013 10:05 ElizarTringov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 09:52 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
On October 11 2013 09:41 ElizarTringov wrote:
I don't see why you would watch ads in the first place. It's not up to you to give money to the players or twitch.tv for that matter. It up to them to convince YOU that they are so valuable that they get you to take your wallet out and pay them. Not only that its up to them to FORCE you to take out your wallet and pay if you really want to watch them. Instead they try to tiptoe around that whole thing and put ads on the streams. Instead you go and watch stupid ads and then complain about it.

It would be FAR better for you to have adblock, for EVERYONE to have adblock, because then the marketing team of all those companies would realize its not working for them to use ads in videos and would take their ads off twitch.tv. The marketing team of companies would have to find a better way to market their products/services and twitch tv would have to find a better way to market their products so as to get clients paying. If people don't mind paying 3,4,5 bucks a late from Starbucks on an almost daily basis what would be the problem with them paying 5,10,20 bucks a month to watch their favorite streams? If they really don't see the value in it, then they would stop, if they did then they would GLADLY pay that price.

Hell people pay 60bucks to watch UFC, 60bucks to watch a top boxing card. What would people rather have? Have their time wasted watching ads, or pay money to see something they love watching? Use adblock! Business will have to find new and innovative ways to market their products/services. It's their job to get you to buy their products, not your job to help them brainwash you with ads.

So what you're suggesting is that we pay actual money for something, instead of getting it for free and sacrificing a few seconds of our time every 5-30 minutes of content?
You must either earn a lot of money, or not know how to spend it too well. I can understand installing adblock when a site is bugged or ad spams you, but you're suggesting that we install adblock specifically to force people to make us pay for their product. Not a good deal if you ask me.


Except like people indicated it happens way too often. Plenty of people don't earn a lot of money but they still spend money on the things they love. Why shouldn't it be the case with this? I never said take sample content of youtube or anywhere else. How do you know it would drive them out of business? The commercials are already driving people off the videos, or they are making people use adblock, therefore the ads never reach the viewer anyways and twitch doesnt get paid! If people are so unwilling to pay for the content then it simply means they don't want it or appreciate it, so then the business DESERVES to be put under.

I'm not arguing against using adblock when it happens too often or is bugged, like with Twitch sometimes.

Allow me to break this argument down to its most basic level. Many places already give you the ability to pay hard cash to avoid ads. This gives the consumer something vital: choice. We can chose to donate our time, or our money.
You want to take away that ability. You want to force content producers to remove that choice, to piss off millions of fans who prefer to spend time over money.
That doesn't help anyone.
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 11 2013 02:23 GMT
#18
Sometimes I get ads which are like 10 minutes long or even longer... and when I skip the ads click the sound is still going on
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ElizarTringov
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Bulgaria317 Posts
October 11 2013 03:21 GMT
#19
On October 11 2013 10:37 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 10:05 ElizarTringov wrote:
On October 11 2013 09:52 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
On October 11 2013 09:41 ElizarTringov wrote:
I don't see why you would watch ads in the first place. It's not up to you to give money to the players or twitch.tv for that matter. It up to them to convince YOU that they are so valuable that they get you to take your wallet out and pay them. Not only that its up to them to FORCE you to take out your wallet and pay if you really want to watch them. Instead they try to tiptoe around that whole thing and put ads on the streams. Instead you go and watch stupid ads and then complain about it.

It would be FAR better for you to have adblock, for EVERYONE to have adblock, because then the marketing team of all those companies would realize its not working for them to use ads in videos and would take their ads off twitch.tv. The marketing team of companies would have to find a better way to market their products/services and twitch tv would have to find a better way to market their products so as to get clients paying. If people don't mind paying 3,4,5 bucks a late from Starbucks on an almost daily basis what would be the problem with them paying 5,10,20 bucks a month to watch their favorite streams? If they really don't see the value in it, then they would stop, if they did then they would GLADLY pay that price.

Hell people pay 60bucks to watch UFC, 60bucks to watch a top boxing card. What would people rather have? Have their time wasted watching ads, or pay money to see something they love watching? Use adblock! Business will have to find new and innovative ways to market their products/services. It's their job to get you to buy their products, not your job to help them brainwash you with ads.

So what you're suggesting is that we pay actual money for something, instead of getting it for free and sacrificing a few seconds of our time every 5-30 minutes of content?
You must either earn a lot of money, or not know how to spend it too well. I can understand installing adblock when a site is bugged or ad spams you, but you're suggesting that we install adblock specifically to force people to make us pay for their product. Not a good deal if you ask me.


Except like people indicated it happens way too often. Plenty of people don't earn a lot of money but they still spend money on the things they love. Why shouldn't it be the case with this? I never said take sample content of youtube or anywhere else. How do you know it would drive them out of business? The commercials are already driving people off the videos, or they are making people use adblock, therefore the ads never reach the viewer anyways and twitch doesnt get paid! If people are so unwilling to pay for the content then it simply means they don't want it or appreciate it, so then the business DESERVES to be put under.

I'm not arguing against using adblock when it happens too often or is bugged, like with Twitch sometimes.

Allow me to break this argument down to its most basic level. Many places already give you the ability to pay hard cash to avoid ads. This gives the consumer something vital: choice. We can chose to donate our time, or our money.
You want to take away that ability. You want to force content producers to remove that choice, to piss off millions of fans who prefer to spend time over money.
That doesn't help anyone.


No I want them to make a different system. Get rid of ads all together, give away 90 or more % of the content away for free, but then charge a premium price for things that warrant a premium price, like tournaments where all the best players play. The tournaments can become free overtime, for example last years tournaments can be free. Same for players with channels - Give content away for free, without watching adds, but coaching costs money. Think about it, how often do you go and buy the product in the commercial? For me the answer is never! So what is the use in having ads? It's not helping the company who's trying to sell the product, it's not helping you, the viewer. You would rather pay with time than money? Is your time really that worthless? Instead of watching your favorite channel you would rather watch a shitty commercial? What advertisers think you will do after you watch a commercial - "I'm gonna buy this product!" what actually happens - Mute, and I'm gonna go do something else.
Perfect practice makes perfect.
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
October 11 2013 05:34 GMT
#20
Subscribing to streams doesn't remove ads, it just gives you a special icon and chat emoticons. Twitch Turbo is what you want to remove ads. You subscribe to that and ads are gone from ALL streams (and somehow the streamers still get money from it idk)
Wahaha
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
October 11 2013 05:47 GMT
#21
I started using adblock when twitch started having advertisements that crashed my browser
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
October 11 2013 07:04 GMT
#22
Yep. Greedy broadcasters ruining it for everyone. Guess what, this is the internet: We have access to anti-rape devices if you don't take your dick out every once in a while.
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Yergidy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2107 Posts
October 11 2013 07:51 GMT
#23
I normally pause adblock when i get to a stream i like.
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MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
October 11 2013 08:10 GMT
#24
Did the same when it started playing super loud ads that couldn't be muted.
peacenl
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 09:29:19
October 11 2013 09:28 GMT
#25
I've heard that some people are currently working on a new ad delivery type that is embedded into the stream (which is much more difficult to block), because the problem now is that they can't match ads to users, because they would have to create multiple streams with each their own ad.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Italy602 Posts
October 11 2013 10:27 GMT
#26
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maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
October 11 2013 10:29 GMT
#27
Been using adblock for years now, no way I'm disabling it. The internet is a much nicer place without ads begging for your attention all the time.
Passion
Profile Joined December 2003
Netherlands1486 Posts
October 11 2013 10:42 GMT
#28
On October 11 2013 19:29 maartendq wrote:
Been using adblock for years now, no way I'm disabling it. The internet is a much nicer place without ads begging for your attention all the time.

Yes, it's way cheaper to steal...
JonIrenicus
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Italy602 Posts
October 11 2013 10:46 GMT
#29
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maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
October 11 2013 11:19 GMT
#30
On October 11 2013 19:42 Passion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 19:29 maartendq wrote:
Been using adblock for years now, no way I'm disabling it. The internet is a much nicer place without ads begging for your attention all the time.

Yes, it's way cheaper to steal...

How is it stealing? Seriously, there's nothing more annoying than being spammed with ads for products you are not in the least bit interested in. Sorry tl.net, I am not interested in dating sites for men seeking Asian beauties. Sorry MLG, I couldn't care less about Mountain Dew, a beverage that isn't sold in Belgium.

The amount of advertisments that get thrown at you through the web, email and even normal mail is ridiculous nowadays.
JonIrenicus
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Italy602 Posts
October 11 2013 11:32 GMT
#31
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bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 12:53:56
October 11 2013 12:48 GMT
#32
On October 11 2013 19:46 JonIrenicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 19:42 Passion wrote:
On October 11 2013 19:29 maartendq wrote:
Been using adblock for years now, no way I'm disabling it. The internet is a much nicer place without ads begging for your attention all the time.

Yes, it's way cheaper to steal...

it's not stealing. Just knowing that you have given enough in the past to sustain them for at least other 30 years.

Adblock is born because ads were abused. Everyone deserves what he gets.

And the marketing industry complains about it because they are burning way more money than any shitty commercial in whatever media could generate. Welp ... too bad, for them ... I guess ...

The concept of advertisment got abused, raped and mutated into a sad thing that is so monstrous it screams to be killed to put out of its misery.

On October 11 2013 20:32 JonIrenicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 20:19 maartendq wrote:
On October 11 2013 19:42 Passion wrote:
On October 11 2013 19:29 maartendq wrote:
Been using adblock for years now, no way I'm disabling it. The internet is a much nicer place without ads begging for your attention all the time.

Yes, it's way cheaper to steal...

How is it stealing? Seriously, there's nothing more annoying than being spammed with ads for products you are not in the least bit interested in. Sorry tl.net, I am not interested in dating sites for men seeking Asian beauties. Sorry MLG, I couldn't care less about Mountain Dew, a beverage that isn't sold in Belgium.

The amount of advertisments that get thrown at you through the web, email and even normal mail is ridiculous nowadays.

I don't fully agree with you. When banners are noninvasive, you can disable adblock if you wish (especially for TL!). But when things get obnoxious I would be the first to activate adblock

But ... that contradicts advertisment. When you don't recognize the ad why even put it there? Oh right, because some misterious 3rd party pays the site-owner. But did you ever asked yourself where that money comes from?
From sites, maybe ... like Teamliquid?! which pay a 3rd party to be registered in an ad-rotation to generate more presence and by that viewers of your site right? And that makes you moar moneyz because you have banner there for which you get paid! What a wonderful world isn't it?
(And people wonder why banks/finances is so lucrative ...)
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
October 11 2013 13:18 GMT
#33
A similar thing happened to me one week ago, i was watching WCS NA before sleep, put on full screen, waited for the first commercial, made it play out until the end (2 minutes) and got to bed. Two minutes later ad loaded, it was 30 minutes long. I could not believe it.

So, it was on again. Even Elly, the guilt tripping elephant, can't make me put it off.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
October 11 2013 13:27 GMT
#34
i started blocking twitch ads solely for the reason they made me watch an ad everytime i open a new stream, which i did alot and i couldnt be arsed waiting 30 seconds every time when i was checking out a stream to see if something good was happening on it
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HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
October 11 2013 14:21 GMT
#35
I don't give a fuck I just installed adblock as soon as I found out about it, never to come back. Stopped watching TV because of commercials, not gonna infest my computer expierience with that shit.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19235 Posts
October 11 2013 14:56 GMT
#36
The worst part is that you get ads on your own channel. So if you don't subscribe to yourself or get turbo, you get ads everytime you open your stream in a cast.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 15:11:02
October 11 2013 15:09 GMT
#37
It's just painfull.. the worst is watching MLG youtube's channel. I wanted to watch the last MLG (i know i'm late). 4adds by videos... Wtf... And i got some WEIRD commercial on that channel.

The worst thing with twitch add is that it's ALWAYS the same. So you have sometime to watch the same commercial 4 or 5 times....
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
October 11 2013 15:16 GMT
#38
On October 11 2013 23:56 BisuDagger wrote:
The worst part is that you get ads on your own channel. So if you don't subscribe to yourself or get turbo, you get ads everytime you open your stream in a cast.


keep refreshing your stream.

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guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
October 11 2013 15:18 GMT
#39
Yea.. I used to pull my hair out when faced with the issues OP has.. then I finally installed adblock... OMFG!
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Rainbow Cuddles
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States486 Posts
October 11 2013 17:30 GMT
#40
I started using AdBlock when i missed the final fight in a major tournament Finals & I have no shame for doing so. If the same thing happened during a main stream sporting event there would be major backlash. It shouldn't be acceptable on Twitch either.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
October 11 2013 17:50 GMT
#41
On October 11 2013 20:32 JonIrenicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 20:19 maartendq wrote:
On October 11 2013 19:42 Passion wrote:
On October 11 2013 19:29 maartendq wrote:
Been using adblock for years now, no way I'm disabling it. The internet is a much nicer place without ads begging for your attention all the time.

Yes, it's way cheaper to steal...

How is it stealing? Seriously, there's nothing more annoying than being spammed with ads for products you are not in the least bit interested in. Sorry tl.net, I am not interested in dating sites for men seeking Asian beauties. Sorry MLG, I couldn't care less about Mountain Dew, a beverage that isn't sold in Belgium.

The amount of advertisments that get thrown at you through the web, email and even normal mail is ridiculous nowadays.

I don't fully agree with you. When banners are noninvasive, you can disable adblock if you wish (especially for TL!). But when things get obnoxious I would be the first to activate adblock

I find any kind of ad banner obtrusive. I come here for information, not for shopping.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11350 Posts
October 11 2013 20:00 GMT
#42
On October 11 2013 23:56 BisuDagger wrote:
The worst part is that you get ads on your own channel. So if you don't subscribe to yourself or get turbo, you get ads everytime you open your stream in a cast.

Yes. This is very stupid. It terrified me the first time the ad popped up because I was testing my stream and it had been rather quiet in the past. Got blasted by an ad and I couldn't figure out why I was getting ads until I realized that every time I clicked on my own channel to pull up and detach the chat, they'd play an ad. Very irritating.
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Jaded.
Profile Joined June 2013
United States125 Posts
October 13 2013 02:13 GMT
#43
Solution is fairly simple. If you still want to support the streamer but don't want ads then just get chrome and go to the stream. Turn the volume almost to mute but not quite mute (Some ads override the sound occasionally if you mute it) and set the quality to low. Then just watch the stream in firefox with adblock on. As far as I know they should still get credit for you viewing the ad. I've been doing this on snipealot's stream for awhile now
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
October 13 2013 03:37 GMT
#44
lol who doesnt install ad block nowadays? letting them earn $$ and making ourselves suffer doesnt sound a good deal to a viewer like me.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
October 13 2013 04:14 GMT
#45
Buy TL+ and feel entitled to watch e-sports without ads. That's how I do it. You can also do the twitch thing to remove ads.

At some point you have to draw a line when being a honest person fucks with your ability to enjoy a short life. At some point you'll die and you'll have literally spent a few days of your life having watched ads, most of which are duplicates, not to mention the fact that you're not the target for a majority of them anyway.

Like they say, time is money. If you prefer spending money instead of wasting your time and your enjoyment of streams, you get the best of both worlds. You maintain your integrity by paying, and you don't waste your time. Ads are truly getting out of control. Not so long ago, I was listening to the radio and I was appalled by how many ads they were - and shortly after that, I watched a stream on a PC which didn't have adblock. They're bombarding us with ads, it's invasive and borders on disrespectful.
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arie3000
Profile Joined October 2011
153 Posts
October 14 2013 09:51 GMT
#46
I use adblock, primarily because of the 30s starting ads - sometimes my internet can be a bit flaky, and I need to reload a stream regularly. Not going to sit thru ads all that time.
I also like to have a few streams open (especially when tournament with some downtime are on), but after one of those REALLY LOUD ad in some muted stream, adblock was swiftly installed.
I really do not mind the ads that e.g. Grubby plays on his stream, where he shows the video to the streamers - that is perfectly ok, as it chimes in a bit more with what he's doing.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 14 2013 09:53 GMT
#47
There is this fucking Dubai air flight ad that won't go away, it just stays there and you have to refresh the stream(thus triggering another ad) in order to watch the strema.
WriterXiao8~~
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 14 2013 10:17 GMT
#48
As a streamer I hate adblock and can't wait for the day it's gone.

Don't know about random ads, that should never happen. Ads can only be sent out in chunks 30 seconds to 3 minutes. You can hit commercial once every 8 minutes. Most streamers clearly wouldn't do this and would only do it between games.

Highly recommend subscribing instead if you dislike ads.
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Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
October 14 2013 10:58 GMT
#49
Starting ads are the worst (and the reason why I installed adblock).

Start tournament stream 1: Ad. 2 teams/players play which I dont care about.
Tournament stream 2: Ad. "We're back in 30min!".
Player stream 1: Ad. Plays a game which isnt listed / I dont care about. Or does some Q&A shit.
Player stream 2: Ad. "Getting food, brb in 20min!"
Ok, let's go with tournament stream 1. Ad. Big fight is about to happen. Internet hiccup. Ad. Missed the fight.


I have no problems with ads during downtime (searching for a game, breaks, when the streamer takes a piss, ...). But those starting ads.... As long as they stay - so does adblock.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 14 2013 15:48 GMT
#50
On October 14 2013 19:17 SK.Testie wrote:
As a streamer I hate adblock and can't wait for the day it's gone.

Don't know about random ads, that should never happen. Ads can only be sent out in chunks 30 seconds to 3 minutes. You can hit commercial once every 8 minutes. Most streamers clearly wouldn't do this and would only do it between games.

Highly recommend subscribing instead if you dislike ads.


Well... Sometime i just to watch ONE game of a tournament and doesn't feel to subscribe to 20$ for one game.

But i don't have adblocks. The thing is in France for exemple IEM, i had sometimes ads that i let play (because support etc...) then i'm like : "This ad is really long..." i watch the timer : "30MINUTES !!!!!" WTF ?

I don't think i'll install adblock because i'm lazy but there is really something odd sometimes with commercial. But Youtube's commercials are really wierder. I mentionned earlier that watching MLG youtube channel with 3ad in a video (6pools with 3ads is... annoying). And i had stuff like : "Go on holliday with our hostess in this luxury hotel" and i'm like... what the fuck is this ? Women in G string and... this girl is a porn actresss... so basicly a scam ad...

It never happened on twitch, but ads that have something like 10minutes are not that rare
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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
October 14 2013 16:58 GMT
#51
For some reason, my browser/streams crash whenever I try to watch streams without ad block. :/ So... I turn on ad block.
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LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2013 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 15:33:31
October 15 2013 15:33 GMT
#52
I have declared war against AD TERROR ever since MLG started it.

More than a single AD or two on you page, guess what BLOCK.

Annoying video ADs? BLOCK or leave - I have never returned to MLG ever since, I advise everyone to just find another source of enjoyment.
They will learn only if we join and fight together against thist AD TERROR.
- It's all just treason - They bring me down with their lies - Don't know the reason - My life is fire and ice -
Iblis
Profile Joined April 2010
904 Posts
October 25 2013 23:20 GMT
#53
WCS Season 3 Finals Day 1 stream, my adblock already block 500 various ads, script and other joyous things, sad that they are making adblock mandatory for most of us that don't want to spend most of our internet time in front of ads.
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
October 25 2013 23:39 GMT
#54
On October 14 2013 19:17 SK.Testie wrote:
As a streamer I hate adblock and can't wait for the day it's gone.

Don't know about random ads, that should never happen. Ads can only be sent out in chunks 30 seconds to 3 minutes. You can hit commercial once every 8 minutes. Most streamers clearly wouldn't do this and would only do it between games.

Highly recommend subscribing instead if you dislike ads.


Adblock will never cease to exist. You better hope for better ads, so that people aren't forced to use adblock in order to save their sanity.
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seequeue
Profile Joined March 2007
United States47 Posts
October 26 2013 00:04 GMT
#55
I will always use adblock if possible. I hate ads, and if you can't run your stream/business/whatever without compensating for that fact, you need to improve your strategy.
YuMMie
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden46 Posts
December 28 2013 17:08 GMT
#56
On October 11 2013 06:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
If you subscribe then you don't need to use adblock (on that stream).

Streamers would make wildly more money if everybody subscribed over just watching ads, however I'm guessing that many streamers make more from ads than from subscriptions currently (since they might average 3000 viewers but only have 50 subscribers).




That is not entirely true, it all depends on at what time the broadcaster got his sub button, if its a newer partner you will still get ads when you subscribe, its only the older partners that have no ads when you sub.
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