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Intricacy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States218 Posts
August 16 2013 03:41 GMT
#1
So here we are again. I didn't actually think it would be so soon as I rarely ever write blog posts, but here we go...

Over the past few years, I have been a number of things : An eSports fan, event makeup artist, talent manager, event organizer/producer, and most recently, team owner.

Nearly one year ago, Jae Won (CranK) and I founded Axiom. Our dream was to create a team that would have slow growth, yet recruit players who were passionate about enhancing their career as Starcraft 2 professionals. If we want to look at all that Axiom has accomplished, most would look to the player's results on Liquipedia, others would take note of the $50,000 in winnings our guys have managed to secure for themselves in under a year in addition to their stable salaries. I prefer to look at how they have grown as young men.

When I first met CranK, our ability to communicate with each other was a challenge. He definitely had a good grasp of English, (which is better than a lot of us could ever hope to achieve in Korean) but compared to now, it is night and day. Today he is capable of translating posts, interpreting for others and rarely has to reach for an English to Korean dictionary. He really worked hard to improve his skills so he could connect with his fans and that is just one of the things I am so proud of him for. Over the past twelve months, I have seen CranK's confidence grow in leaps and bounds. He hasn't just managed to captain and coach a successful team, but a stellar GSTL team in AxiomAcer. CranK and I have gone through challenging times together, but no matter what was going on personally or professionally, we took it on together. Jae Won will always be more to me than a pro player and I am grateful for the day that Reddit brought the two of us together.

Creating Axiom allowed me to meet so many wonderful people.

Miya brought so much joy to the Axiom house. His retirement has left a void that to this day has yet to be filled. I'm certain that a personality like Miya's can never be replaced.

Ryung, who will forever be my second son with his competitive arcade battles with my 10 year old, Orion. His cute regional accent always giving me so many smiles that brightened even the worst days. His accomplishments since joining Axiom are numerous and I couldn't be prouder of him.

Alicia disappeared from the scene for months after concluding that no team wanted to hire him, then asked to join Axiom even without a salary (we forced him into taking one) just so he could play the game he loves. This is the same guy who took 2nd place in several NA events last year and is still reaching amazing heights in his career in WCS NA and the WCS Global Finals. His passion is one that I am truly inspired by.

Heart seems to have it all. He trains hard, has a great sense of humor and is one of the few players I know who can manage to have a girlfriend and still remain competitive. He really is the whole package and even though his transition from WoL to HotS has been a bumpy one, he has shown perserverence and a strength I wish others could learn from.

It is with deep regret and a severe sadness that I am announcing my retirement from Axiom. Over the past twelve months, I have done my best to give everything I could to my team and to the community. As I've stated before in a past blog, I understand that sometimes my best is not going to be good enough.

Regardless of how hard one might try, there are always going to be situations where we as humans lack foresight. At this very moment I have a certain Dennis Gehlen (Take) wishing legal action upon me for a blog post I wrote yesterday explaining what happened behind closed doors regarding Axiom's involvement with ATC.

[6:50:52 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: hey genna
[6:51:04 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: are you serious putting
[6:51:07 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: my private chats with you
[6:51:09 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: online
[6:51:15 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: where i talk about acers
[6:51:16 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: decisions?
[6:51:23 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: which never have to be public?
[6:51:25 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: this is crazy
[6:51:33 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: actually i hope that by law
[6:51:40 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: this is something you can get punnished for?
[6:51:49 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: i guess if acer gonna read this they will get mad
[6:51:54 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: that you posted it online
[6:51:55 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: 10 times
[6:52:02 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: more than u can ever imagine
[6:52:14 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: cause there you let acer look very bad
[6:52:19 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: wow
[6:52:27 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: i didnt even see it when i saw ur post
[6:52:37 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: i just read some but someone from my team has shown me this part
[6:52:41 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: of our private conversation

This is what happens behind closed doors I guess. I understand that maybe some people in eSports are uncomfortable with my unorthodox methods of lifting the veil, but what exactly is there to hide? Aside from the fact that Dennis is paying in part for Team Liquid to come to the ATC finals, I don't see any particularly sensitive information. Sure, they asked the sponsor for more funds to help with travel, is that a bad thing? I made mention that Acer had a contract with TakeTV for a set amount to fund ATC, seems pretty standard to me... Anyway, I guess TIL that if people post chat logs even in an attempt to make you look good in a bad situation, it shouldn't be done and I should just be sued and/or arrested.

As with anything, there is a light and a dark side to eSports. Do not forget that there are players who are having their salaries cut (even though they are under contract), contracts being augmented without warning, organizations being bullied by others and forced into financial instability. Yet, there are the amazing success stories, the supportive fans and great people working towards making this community a better place. I'd ask you to evaluate which side of the coin you belong to and survey the impact it has on the scene around you.

I would like to thank everyone who has supported me during my time as a team owner, as well as those who supported me in all of my eSports endeavors. I'd like to extend some particular thanks to the following individuals (in no particular order). It is without a doubt in a community with so many wonderful people, I will forget to thank someone. Please know that I will continue to cherish all of you.

John Bain, Olivia Wong, Jae Won Choi, Joon Sik Yang, Min Hyuk Kim, Dong Won Kim, Seong Won Mun, Yun Sik Choi, Susie Kim, Cristian Baltoc, Scott Smith, Marcus Graham, Rod Breslau, Geneviève Forget, Manuel Schenkhuizen, Tricia Sugita, Cristian Tamaş, Ben Nichol, Sundance DiGiovanni, Ilyes Satouri, Sue Lee, Jason Lake, Kevin Knocke, JP McDaniel, Jana Otahalova, Marcus Eklöf, John Sargent, Alex Rodriguez, Brandon Qual, Sophie Jung, Jonathan Belke, Adam Contini, Greg Fields, Andrew Christoforou, Anna Prosser Robinson, Mark Ferraz, Tara Babcock, Adam Apicella, Joshua Gray, Brandi Plemmons, Alexander Garfield, Cassandra Ng Schenkhuizen, Michael O'Dell, Justin Ignacio, David Ting, Shawn Simon, Ryan Thompson, Geoff Robinson, Josh Sutherland, Shaun Clark, Jos De Kroon, Mike Lamond, Uwe Semtner, Kevin van der Kooi, Chris Loranger, Helena Kristiansson, Marc Olivier, Samayan Kay, & Michael Van Driel.

I am leaving Axiom in the capable hands of my partner in business, and in life, John "TotalBiscuit" Bain. I am more than confident that he will take the team to new heights. I hope to see many of you at future events where I will be cheering Axiom on from within the crowd. Thank you all for the adventure. GLHF

***
Axiom Founder | SHOUTcraft America Organizer | RIP TB 1984-2018
Parlortricks
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States111 Posts
August 16 2013 03:43 GMT
#2
Woah this I did not expect.
Loomies
Profile Joined July 2010
United States645 Posts
August 16 2013 03:46 GMT
#3
;_;
JazzJackrabbit
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1272 Posts
August 16 2013 03:47 GMT
#4
Well, crap.....
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
August 16 2013 03:47 GMT
#5
My favorite owner no more
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 03:48:30
August 16 2013 03:47 GMT
#6
Axiom is screwed. Slayers is dead. Again. Genna is avoiding the problem instead of facing it.
Qraka
Profile Joined July 2011
United States17 Posts
August 16 2013 03:48 GMT
#7
What a shame.
sykora71
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada3 Posts
August 16 2013 03:48 GMT
#8
I'm sure TB won't let anything get in the way of his team, nobody pushes around the biscuit and his family!
"I should live up to the name." -Lim Yo-Hwan
EmpireEraser
Profile Joined June 2012
United States20 Posts
August 16 2013 03:48 GMT
#9
this is terrible news
zelderan
Profile Joined May 2013
United States163 Posts
August 16 2013 03:49 GMT
#10
Glhf Jenna (
"Pumpkin mut-muts!" ~ Tasteless
A Fanta Bottle
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada4 Posts
August 16 2013 03:49 GMT
#11
Good luck in the future Genna, you've done one hell of a job creating my favourite team that is Axiom. I love all of the players on Axiom, mad respect to all of them. Thank you for your contribution.
I'll just do me, so you just do you.
philliechease
Profile Joined February 2013
United States16 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 03:53:42
August 16 2013 03:49 GMT
#12
I don't understand what the problem is. :/ So because she posted a part of a private skype chat (which is done all the time btw) he wants legal action against her?
Team Grubby! :D
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
August 16 2013 03:49 GMT
#13
wait...what?! O.o
Sabre
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1086 Posts
August 16 2013 03:50 GMT
#14
woooow o:
UK TrackMania Champion | Former SC2 player | http://www.twitter.com/Sabre_CS
sLideSC2
Profile Joined July 2012
United States225 Posts
August 16 2013 03:51 GMT
#15
Rofl you can't get in trouble for posting skype chats online without an NDA of sorts. You aren't in the wrong at all, its hilarious that TaKe would even think of something like that.
https://twitter.com/sLideSC2 | (NA)sLide.635 | coL_Sasqautch ~ coL_QXC ~ coL_TriMaster
Bashnek
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia895 Posts
August 16 2013 03:51 GMT
#16
what please no
/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-18 01:22:33
August 16 2013 03:51 GMT
#17
(wrote this in the moment, after listening to TB's post and time gone by..)
+ Show Spoiler +
Sad that it had to go this way, I supported your way of doing it but doing it without asking the parties included is just bound to fuck some people over.

+ Show Spoiler +
Posting yet another conversation just come off childish even if you have nothing to lose.


Edit: Tbh I'm disappointed that you stepped down because of this little drama.
Stand STRONG instead!!


Genna you are just fucking incredible to be able to do everything you did while being depressed, I have first hand experience and I can't even imagine being able to do everything like that at different times, yet alone all at the same time!

Genna, here here!
The curse is real
Betelgeuse
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada210 Posts
August 16 2013 03:52 GMT
#18
Huh so does leaving boil down to "I screwed up so I guess its best to just leave". At least on the surface it doesn't seem like you really have to step down because 1 person is upset but what do I know.
Also I don't really understand why you would continue to post chat from someone who is threating legal action, seems like you're just making it worse for yourself.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
August 16 2013 03:52 GMT
#19
This little drama really shows we've still got a loooong fucking way to go if we're going to be taken seriously as an industry.

GL HF
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
FXOBoSs
Profile Joined August 2011
337 Posts
August 16 2013 03:52 GMT
#20
I am a tiny bit confused how this escalated so quickly but that doesn't matter.

Don't let people push you around Genna, I know TB wouldn't. You've done alot for sc2 and should be proud of your success. Good luck in your future!
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