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This is a heated issue, but please keep the debate civil.
Personal insult is not 'discussion' and will be moderated. -Pg 36
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 04:10:56
August 16 2013 04:10 GMT
#61
Best of luck, Genna. From what I could see you were a really good and comforting team owner and I feel really sad that it's come to this. Definately lost a shitton of reputation for Take. I and many others appreciate your honesty and open way of bringing everything. Thanks for all you've done Genna, and hopefully this won't have too big of an impact on the entire team because of all the bullshit that's happened towards you & Axiom. Ugh.
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
August 16 2013 04:11 GMT
#62
On August 16 2013 13:10 Bagi wrote:
Feels like overreaction. The childish "fuck Take"-stuff isn't helping anyone either.


Yeah man we should totally just hug it out after he threatened my wife and the team with legal action.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
August 16 2013 04:11 GMT
#63
This situation is so ridiculous
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 16 2013 04:12 GMT
#64
Ehem, what? Someone, quick, make sure TaKe was not drunk with Dayshi & Co.
But yeah, good luck, and remember about fate of SlayerS players.
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TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
August 16 2013 04:13 GMT
#65
On August 16 2013 13:09 Joedaddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 13:00 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On August 16 2013 12:58 Joedaddy wrote:
Pretty shitty move when you make what one presumed to be a private conversation public. Even if you didn't think it was a big deal, Dennis obviously did.


Fuck Dennis. If he wasn't so concerned about saving face rather than being honest with everybody about his mismanaged tournament then some of this might not have happened. When you say "I hope there are legal consequences for what you've done" all bets are off, I lose any respect I've had for you. I hope Take enjoyed the free casting and the numbers, I'll never deal with him and his organisation ever again.


logic overwhelming~ Dennis has done an awful lot in e-sports and has been an integral part in some of the most enjoyable SC2 tournaments to date. You taking a dump on him because a peer has a valid reason for being upset with your wife makes you look childish and immature, imo.

The best thing Axiom can do for the community at this point is accept the blame they earned, apologize, and move on. Neither of you are going to do e-sports any favors by creating a shit storm of drama in an effort to save face.

Take the high road bro~


Accept blame?

I wasn't aware they were the ones trying to take it to the courts, that would be Take.
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
August 16 2013 04:13 GMT
#66
On August 16 2013 13:10 chaos021 wrote:
What the actual fuck? Why did this escalate at all? Can anyone please explain this?


cuz.... TB is being TB, as usual. That's my guess anyway.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
August 16 2013 04:13 GMT
#67
On August 16 2013 13:07 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 13:06 Finrod1 wrote:
On August 16 2013 13:00 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On August 16 2013 12:58 Joedaddy wrote:
Pretty shitty move when you make what one presumed to be a private conversation public. Even if you didn't think it was a big deal, Dennis obviously did.


Fuck Dennis. If he wasn't so concerned about saving face rather than being honest with everybody about his mismanaged tournament then some of this might not have happened. When you say "I hope there are legal consequences for what you've done" all bets are off, I lose any respect I've had for you. I hope Take enjoyed the free casting and the numbers, I'll never deal with him and his organisation ever again.


Oh that is so mature TB. I really agree witht you on most topics but you can't see that everyone made a mistake in this situation? You just trying to shitstorm him now... "classy".
To post privat discussion openly in a forum is a big no-no even if you don't want to see it his way. The lawbullshit by take it obviously just angryman talking and not smart either.
So everyone looses.

He's always causing shit storms.

Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 13:07 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On August 16 2013 13:06 askmc70 wrote:
what did take do?


Read Genna's previous blog for the backstory.

A TL;DR version is required... her blog is so long. Hopefully I'll remember to read it over the weekend. Then my opinion will change. But for now.. :S


So the TLDR version is this. Axiom committed to the ATC, but there were some communication issues regarding travel support. Axiom's budget couldn't support flying Axiom to the event due to WCS expenses, and the money provided by Acer wasn't enough to make up the difference. TaKe stepped in to try to find more money from Acer to help teams attend but wasn't able to make it work for Axiom.

Genna posted all of this in a blog, supported with emails and Skype logs between Axiom management and people involved with the ATC. TaKe, apparently, took offense at that and threatened legal action.
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hangene92
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada258 Posts
August 16 2013 04:13 GMT
#68
I am soo confused, this is ridiculous.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one"
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
August 16 2013 04:14 GMT
#69
On August 16 2013 13:13 Joedaddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 13:10 chaos021 wrote:
What the actual fuck? Why did this escalate at all? Can anyone please explain this?


cuz.... TB is being TB, as usual. That's my guess anyway.


Did you actually bother to read or are you just bashing someone you don't like?
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
August 16 2013 04:15 GMT
#70
On August 16 2013 13:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 13:10 Bagi wrote:
Feels like overreaction. The childish "fuck Take"-stuff isn't helping anyone either.


Yeah man we should totally just hug it out after he threatened my wife and the team with legal action.

When you say someone threatened your wife and your team with legal action, is this the ONLY thing you are basing it on:
[6:51:33 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: actually i hope that by law
[6:51:40 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: this is something you can get punnished for?


Or is there more info that was not revealed?
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 04:16:47
August 16 2013 04:15 GMT
#71
On August 16 2013 13:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 13:10 Bagi wrote:
Feels like overreaction. The childish "fuck Take"-stuff isn't helping anyone either.


Yeah man we should totally just hug it out after he threatened my wife and the team with legal action.

Is this the first time you got threatened with legal action? My mom deals with that daily at her work with clients. Grow up. I got threatened with legal action and racism a couple days ago. You know what I did? I played it cool, stayed calm, and finished my transaction with the buyer.
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
August 16 2013 04:15 GMT
#72
That's a shame. This whole concept of a non-KeSPA team with such wonderful players, stable salaries, etc. really captivated me. I hope it's much the same under TB.
fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
August 16 2013 04:15 GMT
#73
I'm very surprised, Axiom always felt like a real professional team, and business. Sure...


GLHF
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Enhancer_
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada320 Posts
August 16 2013 04:16 GMT
#74
She posted something that was presumably never strictly confidential to explain to fans why she had to pull her team from Dennis' tournament that made everyone look like a decent person, and from which there was no indication of any true ill will.

TaKe responds by immediately threatening her with legal action, and then expects her to not post that online as well.

Seriously just a shitheadedly stupid move from this guy there.
Sacrilege
Profile Joined December 2011
United States199 Posts
August 16 2013 04:16 GMT
#75
On August 16 2013 12:52 FXOBoSs wrote:
I am a tiny bit confused how this escalated so quickly but that doesn't matter.



As am I... I don't understand why this was triggered...
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
August 16 2013 04:16 GMT
#76
What the actual fuck just happened. Genna was basically a mother to those players. I really hope the best for everyone.
Long live the Boss Toss!
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
August 16 2013 04:16 GMT
#77
What a joke of a situation. esports loses the best people for the dumbest reasons. Oy.
Tanksenior
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands26 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 04:17:55
August 16 2013 04:16 GMT
#78
Aww Genna :/ a sad day for esports, to lose such a great person and personality. Axiom will keep recieving my support of course, I'm sure TB will do just fine as the new manager and owner.

Good luck and remember:
In strength is victory.
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
August 16 2013 04:17 GMT
#79
On August 16 2013 13:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 13:10 Bagi wrote:
Feels like overreaction. The childish "fuck Take"-stuff isn't helping anyone either.


Yeah man we should totally just hug it out after he threatened my wife and the team with legal action.

Was there any legal basis? I'm sure there was as you are pretty reasonable, but still, she shouldnt let someone else destroy all her hardwork so easily.
Long live the Boss Toss!
Cite
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia251 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 04:19:17
August 16 2013 04:17 GMT
#80
On August 16 2013 13:15 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 13:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On August 16 2013 13:10 Bagi wrote:
Feels like overreaction. The childish "fuck Take"-stuff isn't helping anyone either.


Yeah man we should totally just hug it out after he threatened my wife and the team with legal action.

Is this the first time you got threatened with legal action? My mom deals with that daily at her work with clients. Grow up.


This pretty much sums it up, I mean he didn't even suggest he wanted to. The guy barely speaks english on his own and you are taking his broken wishful thinking (note he said "wish) that its punishable by law? Pretty scummy really on your part to blow it out of proportion BUT I mean this is of course if that chat log is the entire reason this thing blew up. But hey in the end its your team now and you guys can do what you want but I feel like atleast the TL community should be the wiser to see something being just blown out of proportion rather than actually being a huge issue

edit: You are also the most condescending person to ever grace the youtube limelight (in reference to your reply on page 5 to this post I am quoting)
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