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Personal insult is not 'discussion' and will be moderated. -Pg 36
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
August 16 2013 03:53 GMT
#21
I'm not sure I understand why you're retiring. Because of something stupid someone said in a private chat about something stupid?
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
August 16 2013 03:53 GMT
#22
Such a big lose to starcraft.
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 04:00:31
August 16 2013 03:54 GMT
#23
You're being an idiot. You don't have to step down at all.

The more i see of Take the more i think he's an asshole.

User was warned for this post
ChanmanV
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1156 Posts
August 16 2013 03:54 GMT
#24
Wow Im in shock
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
August 16 2013 03:54 GMT
#25
shitstorm incoming
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
HeyAngel_01
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada12 Posts
August 16 2013 03:55 GMT
#26
I hope John can be as supportive as his wife . GLHF Genna
darthcaesar
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States475 Posts
August 16 2013 03:56 GMT
#27
what... O_O
He is wisest who knows he does not know. | (┛OДO)┛彡┻━┻
Patjuh
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands20 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 04:26:30
August 16 2013 03:56 GMT
#28
Even though her reasons for resigning as team owner don't carry enough weight in my personal opinion (I think eSports should be a lot more transparent, it's a win-win situation for everyone within the community and can only aid the professionalism of the industry itself), I kinda saw this coming. I feel sorry for her though, as I believe she had all the right intentions during the entire journey.

Of course I can only judge based on what I've read for the past couple of days, but I don't think Dennis 'Take' should threaten with exploring the legal possibilities of suing someone (especially not in an international affair). I do believe it's not smooth to publish any private conversations, but then again people should put things into perspective a bit more. Not only does any such threats (from Dennis) put the community unnecessarily on 'sharp' (in a negative way, lots of negativity will flow around for the next days), I actually believe he might not have such a strong case towards Mrs. Bain (I doubt he would speak for Acer by proclaiming such actions, and if he does then he really has no clue). If for any reason the contracts between contract-parties have non-disclosure clauses, obviously (legal) rules are broken (freedom of contract); however, it depends on who signed what contract whether someone is guilty of breaking such rules stated in the mutually agreed contract (a contract between Acer and Dennis 'Take' would have no legal force towards Mrs. Bain, therefore she needs to be party in a separate contract herself; it would obviously be the joke of the day if Take would threaten Mrs. Bain based on a contract where he's no legal party off). And even then, if eventually she would be to blame for something, one of the foremost reasons why e-sports related conflicts (almost) never get in front of a legal court is because the involved interests for the contracted parties don't weigh up against all the time, effort and costs any such scenario would take up.

I hope this is in no way the beginning of the end of Axiom, nor the beginning of hell breaking loose within the community/industry...
Rock-solid, heart-touching.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 03:57:29
August 16 2013 03:56 GMT
#29
On August 16 2013 12:53 sumsaR wrote:
I'm not sure I understand why you're retiring. Because of something stupid someone said in a private chat about something stupid?


I guess it should have been spelled out in the post. What just happened is just a tiny taste of the sheer amount of bullshit, backroom nonsense, immaturity and general awfulness that happens in this scene on a daily basis. This is the straw that broke the camels back after a years worth of stress that would have crushed a lesser person far sooner. Sorry, people aren't robots, emotions exist, stress is a real thing and there comes a point where its' better to step back for your own health. The audacity that anyone is questioning her decision to leave and pretending to know what's going on in her head, the sheer audacity.

CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
August 16 2013 03:57 GMT
#30
Terrible news, sorry to see you go and best of luck wherever you end up.

Take / Acer really aren't coming out of this one with their reputation intact.
Fead
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2 Posts
August 16 2013 03:57 GMT
#31
Bye
Hope is for presidents and dreams are for people who are sleeping
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 03:58:01
August 16 2013 03:57 GMT
#32
I did think it was kind of questionable to post private chat logs
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 03:59:10
August 16 2013 03:58 GMT
#33
Pretty shitty move when you make what one presumed to be a private conversation public. Even if you didn't think it was a big deal, Dennis obviously did.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 04:01:25
August 16 2013 03:58 GMT
#34
Edit: ignore, didnt f5
Drlemur
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States153 Posts
August 16 2013 03:59 GMT
#35
Sorry to hear it Genna. You were a great manager for your team. Your commitment to openness about the insides of esports was part of what was special.

But posting/exposing any private emails or private discussions without consent of the other person is a big no-no. I doubt Dennis is going to take legal action against you, but it would make it hard for other organizers to speak frankly without worrying about potential consequences.

I hope Axiom continues to do well and that you can work your magic on travel arrangements and making the players happy while John/TB does the direct contact for tournament arrangements. You guys have something special here and I hope it keeps going strong.

P.S. You were in the right on the original ATC arrangements issue. They were trying to run a small budget tournament and cutting a lot of corners as a result. You had no commitment to lose money attending and made the right call pulling out of the offline finals and letting them sort it out.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
August 16 2013 03:59 GMT
#36
Thanks for your involvment in the sc2 community genna. Good luck!
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 04:00:21
August 16 2013 04:00 GMT
#37
absent an NDA, posting private messages is not illegal, its just unprofessional.

sucks that you are taking such drastic measures. gl.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 16 2013 04:00 GMT
#38
Sad to see, you had a fresh take on things and were very good at managing your team. It's too bad to see you go. I always liked the way Axiom ran things so transparently.

Best of luck in the future.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
August 16 2013 04:00 GMT
#39
On August 16 2013 12:58 Joedaddy wrote:
Pretty shitty move when you make what one presumed to be a private conversation public. Even if you didn't think it was a big deal, Dennis obviously did.


Fuck Dennis. If he wasn't so concerned about saving face rather than being honest with everybody about his mismanaged tournament then some of this might not have happened. When you say "I hope there are legal consequences for what you've done" all bets are off, I lose any respect I've had for you. I hope Take enjoyed the free casting and the numbers, I'll never deal with him and his organisation ever again.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 04:02:16
August 16 2013 04:01 GMT
#40
take got mad cuz u posted something ,that is private, publicly, said something dumb (cuz mad) privately, u post it publicly


ppl dont post when mad plx
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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