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This is a heated issue, but please keep the debate civil. Personal insult is not 'discussion' and will be moderated. -Pg 36 | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
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RiSkysc2
696 Posts
The more i see of Take the more i think he's an asshole. User was warned for this post | ||
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ChanmanV
United States1156 Posts
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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HeyAngel_01
Canada12 Posts
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darthcaesar
United States475 Posts
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Patjuh
Netherlands20 Posts
Of course I can only judge based on what I've read for the past couple of days, but I don't think Dennis 'Take' should threaten with exploring the legal possibilities of suing someone (especially not in an international affair). I do believe it's not smooth to publish any private conversations, but then again people should put things into perspective a bit more. Not only does any such threats (from Dennis) put the community unnecessarily on 'sharp' (in a negative way, lots of negativity will flow around for the next days), I actually believe he might not have such a strong case towards Mrs. Bain (I doubt he would speak for Acer by proclaiming such actions, and if he does then he really has no clue). If for any reason the contracts between contract-parties have non-disclosure clauses, obviously (legal) rules are broken (freedom of contract); however, it depends on who signed what contract whether someone is guilty of breaking such rules stated in the mutually agreed contract (a contract between Acer and Dennis 'Take' would have no legal force towards Mrs. Bain, therefore she needs to be party in a separate contract herself; it would obviously be the joke of the day if Take would threaten Mrs. Bain based on a contract where he's no legal party off). And even then, if eventually she would be to blame for something, one of the foremost reasons why e-sports related conflicts (almost) never get in front of a legal court is because the involved interests for the contracted parties don't weigh up against all the time, effort and costs any such scenario would take up. I hope this is in no way the beginning of the end of Axiom, nor the beginning of hell breaking loose within the community/industry... | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On August 16 2013 12:53 sumsaR wrote: I'm not sure I understand why you're retiring. Because of something stupid someone said in a private chat about something stupid? I guess it should have been spelled out in the post. What just happened is just a tiny taste of the sheer amount of bullshit, backroom nonsense, immaturity and general awfulness that happens in this scene on a daily basis. This is the straw that broke the camels back after a years worth of stress that would have crushed a lesser person far sooner. Sorry, people aren't robots, emotions exist, stress is a real thing and there comes a point where its' better to step back for your own health. The audacity that anyone is questioning her decision to leave and pretending to know what's going on in her head, the sheer audacity. | ||
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TheButtonmen
Canada1405 Posts
Take / Acer really aren't coming out of this one with their reputation intact. | ||
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Fead
United States2 Posts
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
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Joedaddy
United States1948 Posts
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
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Drlemur
United States153 Posts
But posting/exposing any private emails or private discussions without consent of the other person is a big no-no. I doubt Dennis is going to take legal action against you, but it would make it hard for other organizers to speak frankly without worrying about potential consequences. I hope Axiom continues to do well and that you can work your magic on travel arrangements and making the players happy while John/TB does the direct contact for tournament arrangements. You guys have something special here and I hope it keeps going strong. P.S. You were in the right on the original ATC arrangements issue. They were trying to run a small budget tournament and cutting a lot of corners as a result. You had no commitment to lose money attending and made the right call pulling out of the offline finals and letting them sort it out. | ||
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Finrod1
Germany3997 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
sucks that you are taking such drastic measures. gl. | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
Best of luck in the future. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On August 16 2013 12:58 Joedaddy wrote: Pretty shitty move when you make what one presumed to be a private conversation public. Even if you didn't think it was a big deal, Dennis obviously did. Fuck Dennis. If he wasn't so concerned about saving face rather than being honest with everybody about his mismanaged tournament then some of this might not have happened. When you say "I hope there are legal consequences for what you've done" all bets are off, I lose any respect I've had for you. I hope Take enjoyed the free casting and the numbers, I'll never deal with him and his organisation ever again. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
ppl dont post when mad plx | ||
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