EPT[H] Advice fighting speeding ticket - Page 2
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Burrfoot
United States1176 Posts
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Iranon
United States983 Posts
On April 16 2013 06:39 Wrongspeedy wrote: Never even had a parking ticket. I had an accident but it was more than 5 years ago. I have to drive almost 200 hundred miles round trip to fight the ticket. But its worth $260 if I think I can beat it. If you haven't had an accident or a traffic violation in the past two years, you can show up to court, plead good driving record, and it will get dismissed. The end. You can do this as many times as you want, as long as its been over two years since the last time something happened with you, your car, and the long dick of the law. | ||
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Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
On April 16 2013 09:46 Iranon wrote: If you haven't had an accident or a traffic violation in the past two years, you can show up to court, plead good driving record, and it will get dismissed. The end. You can do this as many times as you want, as long as its been over two years since the last time something happened with you, your car, and the long dick of the law. Yeah I have been driving for 8 years I had one accident and this is the first ticket I have ever been issued. I had been pulled over once but it was just because I was driving 40 in a 35 at 2 am and he wanted to make sure I wasn't up to anything. I was just on my way to work, where that part time sheriff was actually a part-time manager  Not gonna try anything fancy or try and make the cop look bad, I just don't need it messing up my insurance. | ||
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Epishade
United States2267 Posts
On April 16 2013 07:38 Iyerbeth wrote: I don't drive at all so I don't know if I'm missing something, but isn't "I knew I was breaking the speed limit by almost double, but it's because I feel like it should be higher" a terrible reason? Also what I was thinking. Good luck on the moveable radar but I probably wouldn't mention this part. I don't drive very much as well fwiw. | ||
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plasemeious
United States244 Posts
On April 16 2013 06:50 Wrongspeedy wrote: Yeah I just read also that if I reschedule the court date I have a better chance the cop won't show up. Which I live far enough away that might be an option. Just say that day doesn't work for me, "sorry I don't have two and a half hours to give you that day". Just silly to me, I know it was way over the limit (possibly) but just looking at where I got it just seems so silly to me. A weeks pay for endangering no one. Does this actually work? I have gotten a ticket and went to court. The cop did not show up but it was not just thrown out. Edit: I don't know if there is much of a point in fighting it. You were speeding regardless whether you feel the speed limit should be higher and had not actually reached the area(highway) with the higher speed limit | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43824 Posts
On April 16 2013 07:21 calgar wrote: This is terrible advice; don't listen. I think its pragmatic to consider whether sources you listen to are knowledgeable and well-informed sources in legal situations like this. What state was this? ...wtf? It's a state where he got a ticket going double the speed limit. That's every damn state. OP, you even freely admit you were in the wrong here (and the fact that you saw the cop but didn't slow down *just in case* was pretty silly). You shouldn't be able to get off scot-free. A speeding ticket of that nature could possibly put ~2 points on your license, which you don't want. A fine is better; you pay it and you're done with the ticket. However, after a certain number of points accumulate on your license (here in NJ, it's 6 points), you have to pay a surcharge and your insurance goes up because you've become an "unsafe driver". Therefore, I would plead down to a "no points violation"- a charge where the fine you pay might be a bit higher, but you don't get any points. Most prosecutors are happy to agree to this, as their district gets your fine, but the money that you pay with an increase in insurance costs doesn't go to them. (You get two "no points violation" freebies every five years... you often can't do it more than twice in five years). Bring up this option to the prosecutor when you talk to him in court. | ||
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On April 16 2013 11:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Every damn state doesn't have the same laws, which is why the question is relevant, although I'll forgive your rude tone for misunderstanding. Some states like North Carolina have special abilities to get out of tickets every few years like prayer for judgment, although this doesn't matter here unless there is an Oregon equivalent....wtf? It's a state where he got a ticket going double the speed limit. That's every damn state. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43824 Posts
On April 16 2013 11:43 calgar wrote: Every damn state doesn't have the same laws, which is why the question is relevant, although I'll forgive your rude tone for misunderstanding. Some states like North Carolina have special abilities to get out of tickets every few years like prayer for judgment, although this doesn't matter here unless there is an Oregon equivalent. The rest of my post explained the New Jersey equivalent of the North Carolina prayer for judgment plea. However, that's still a guilty plea and it's not you getting off completely free (assuming the judge agrees to the PfJ in the first place); you still have to pay at least court fines. It's just simply the case that you don't get points and the ticket doesn't go on your record... which is exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned the no points violation. | ||
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Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
On April 16 2013 11:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: The rest of my post explained the New Jersey equivalent of the North Carolina prayer for judgment plea. However, that's still a guilty plea and it's not you getting off completely free (assuming the judge agrees to the PfJ in the first place); you still have to pay at least court fines. It's just simply the case that you don't get points and the ticket doesn't go on your record... which is exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned the no points violation. Yeah I don't think I am going to get off scott free. Not gonna try, but it is good to know all my options. Really glad you posted DarkPlasmaBall. I was actually waiting for you to post. Another bit of advice I got today from a friend who said that they had kept it their tickets off their records and had the penalties reduced by talking to the judge and asking for community service. Gonna call the courthouse tmw, today when I tried they were at lunch. I don't know if there is a points system in Oregon or not but I am going to find out more about that by talking to someone at the courthouse. I suppose I could just look it up but I think I would rather be able to just ask someone the questions I need answers too | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43824 Posts
On April 16 2013 12:49 Wrongspeedy wrote: Yeah I don't think I am going to get off scott free. Not gonna try, but it is good to know all my options. Really glad you posted DarkPlasmaBall. I was actually waiting for you to post. Another bit of advice I got today from a friend who said that they had kept it their tickets off their records and had the penalties reduced by talking to the judge and asking for community service. Gonna call the courthouse tmw, today when I tried they were at lunch. I don't know if there is a points system in Oregon or not but I am going to find out more about that by talking to someone at the courthouse. I suppose I could just look it up but I think I would rather be able to just ask someone the questions I need answers too I think that's a good idea  Figure out what options you have Also, your TL ID is appropriate ^^ | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
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Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
On April 16 2013 16:49 Tobberoth wrote: Sounds from your description like it's an area with shitty regulations, but be that as it may, you were still driving 49 in a 20 area, which you shouldn't have done. It's always easy to go "Well, in this case the law is dumb", but the law is still the law. If you know it's a 20 area, you should drive in 20, no matter how dumb you feel it is. It was 25. So I wasn't double, at least by 1 mph. Pretty much only saving grace. | ||
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FryBender
United States290 Posts
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