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On April 06 2013 16:13 Ianuus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 10:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 05 2013 10:26 Ryalnos wrote:
This blog is delicious now. 3.25 million in total was handed out in 2012. you think all the other events outside of WCS will add up to 1.7 million in 2013? i don't. Except this blog isn't about private company support, it's about Blizzard's support. God I love it when people are spectacularly wrong, then still try to argue to save face. It makes me feel a lot better about myself.
1. in the blog i predicted LOWER TOTAL PRIZE POOL FOR 2013 and fewer events.
2. none of the "private company support" is possible without Blizzard. Every tournament requires a license from Blizzard.
3. Blizzard has already stated "we are not telling u where the money is coming from"
so to claim this new announcement proves Blizzard "support" is improved... you can't say that.
"PCG: Are the prize pools for MLG, GSL, and other participating WCS leagues now provided by Blizzard?
MM: We’re not getting into details on where the money’s coming from. Blizzard is working in partnership with all of the tournament operators."
Blizzard just pulled a huge fast one and many people swallowed it hook line and sinker.
However, here is an excellent sober second thought on the matter..
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406203¤tpage=26#516
kudos to the poster for having the balls to put in writing what every team is going through.
this is a giant mess and is hardly a sign of "improved Blizzard support".
and, i'll stick with my prediction of a lower over all prize pool for 2013.
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On April 06 2013 09:55 Aelonius wrote:
Lets rename the OP to "JimmyTryHard"
On April 06 2013 12:09 blade55555 wrote:
ROFL holy cow I expected jimmy to ignore this or something but he still thinks he's right? lol holy cow.
On April 06 2013 16:13 Ianuus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 10:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 05 2013 10:26 Ryalnos wrote:
This blog is delicious now. 3.25 million in total was handed out in 2012. you think all the other events outside of WCS will add up to 1.7 million in 2013? i don't. Except this blog isn't about private company support, it's about Blizzard's support. God I love it when people are spectacularly wrong, then still try to argue to save face. It makes me feel a lot better about myself.
He's a known troll over at Gamereplays.
Atleast I'm pretty damn sure it's the same guy.
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On April 06 2013 18:50 FlamingForce wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 12:09 blade55555 wrote:
ROFL holy cow I expected jimmy to ignore this or something but he still thinks he's right? lol holy cow. Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 16:13 Ianuus wrote:On April 05 2013 10:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 05 2013 10:26 Ryalnos wrote:
This blog is delicious now. 3.25 million in total was handed out in 2012. you think all the other events outside of WCS will add up to 1.7 million in 2013? i don't. Except this blog isn't about private company support, it's about Blizzard's support. God I love it when people are spectacularly wrong, then still try to argue to save face. It makes me feel a lot better about myself. He's a known troll over at Gamereplays. Atleast I'm pretty damn sure it's the same guy.
no, you're just a sucker for Blizzard marketing.
Blizzard has made many great games in the past. and employs some of the greatest minds in game design.
Blizzard is not very good at overseeing competitive leagues
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On April 06 2013 18:50 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 16:13 Ianuus wrote:On April 05 2013 10:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 05 2013 10:26 Ryalnos wrote:
This blog is delicious now. 3.25 million in total was handed out in 2012. you think all the other events outside of WCS will add up to 1.7 million in 2013? i don't. Except this blog isn't about private company support, it's about Blizzard's support. God I love it when people are spectacularly wrong, then still try to argue to save face. It makes me feel a lot better about myself. 1. in the blog i predicted LOWER TOTAL PRIZE POOL FOR 2013 and fewer events. 2. none of the "private company support" is possible without Blizzard. Every tournament requires a license from Blizzard. 3. Blizzard has already stated "we are not telling u where the money is coming from" so to claim this new announcement proves Blizzard "support" is improved... you can't say that. " PCG: Are the prize pools for MLG, GSL, and other participating WCS leagues now provided by Blizzard?
MM: We’re not getting into details on where the money’s coming from. Blizzard is working in partnership with all of the tournament operators." Blizzard just pulled a huge fast one and many people swallowed it hook line and sinker. However, here is an excellent sober second thought on the matter.. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406203¤tpage=26#516kudos to the poster for having the balls to put in writing what every team is going through. this is a giant mess and is hardly a sign of "improved Blizzard support". and, i'll stick with my prediction of a lower over all prize pool for 2013.
You're an idiot, plain and simple. That, or a troll. You have consistently and repeatedly dodged everything anyone has said that shows the main subject of this blog, which you wrote, is wrong. Please provide proof on how you are right, or shut up.
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On April 06 2013 18:55 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 18:50 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 06 2013 16:13 Ianuus wrote:On April 05 2013 10:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 05 2013 10:26 Ryalnos wrote:
This blog is delicious now. 3.25 million in total was handed out in 2012. you think all the other events outside of WCS will add up to 1.7 million in 2013? i don't. Except this blog isn't about private company support, it's about Blizzard's support. God I love it when people are spectacularly wrong, then still try to argue to save face. It makes me feel a lot better about myself. 1. in the blog i predicted LOWER TOTAL PRIZE POOL FOR 2013 and fewer events. 2. none of the "private company support" is possible without Blizzard. Every tournament requires a license from Blizzard. 3. Blizzard has already stated "we are not telling u where the money is coming from" so to claim this new announcement proves Blizzard "support" is improved... you can't say that. " PCG: Are the prize pools for MLG, GSL, and other participating WCS leagues now provided by Blizzard?
MM: We’re not getting into details on where the money’s coming from. Blizzard is working in partnership with all of the tournament operators." Blizzard just pulled a huge fast one and many people swallowed it hook line and sinker. However, here is an excellent sober second thought on the matter.. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406203¤tpage=26#516kudos to the poster for having the balls to put in writing what every team is going through. this is a giant mess and is hardly a sign of "improved Blizzard support". and, i'll stick with my prediction of a lower over all prize pool for 2013. You're an idiot, plain and simple. That, or a troll. You have consistently and repeatedly dodged everything anyone has said that shows the main subject of this blog, which you wrote, is wrong. Please provide proof on how you are right, or shut up.
No, you don't read.
This WCS announcement is hardly a sign of improved support.
Its chaos and confusion.
Again, try reading
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406203¤tpage=26#516
if you disagree with the content of Martjin's post .. or my post .. then go for it...
but this is a waste of time.
Blizzard has already botched this... and they of course have a large contingent of apologists around willing to forgive anything and everything... they've earned that because they've made such great games.
but this WCS is as has been noted by many people already a total rush job.
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On April 06 2013 18:57 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 18:55 kollin wrote:On April 06 2013 18:50 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 06 2013 16:13 Ianuus wrote:On April 05 2013 10:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 05 2013 10:26 Ryalnos wrote:
This blog is delicious now. 3.25 million in total was handed out in 2012. you think all the other events outside of WCS will add up to 1.7 million in 2013? i don't. Except this blog isn't about private company support, it's about Blizzard's support. God I love it when people are spectacularly wrong, then still try to argue to save face. It makes me feel a lot better about myself. 1. in the blog i predicted LOWER TOTAL PRIZE POOL FOR 2013 and fewer events. 2. none of the "private company support" is possible without Blizzard. Every tournament requires a license from Blizzard. 3. Blizzard has already stated "we are not telling u where the money is coming from" so to claim this new announcement proves Blizzard "support" is improved... you can't say that. " PCG: Are the prize pools for MLG, GSL, and other participating WCS leagues now provided by Blizzard?
MM: We’re not getting into details on where the money’s coming from. Blizzard is working in partnership with all of the tournament operators." Blizzard just pulled a huge fast one and many people swallowed it hook line and sinker. However, here is an excellent sober second thought on the matter.. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406203¤tpage=26#516kudos to the poster for having the balls to put in writing what every team is going through. this is a giant mess and is hardly a sign of "improved Blizzard support". and, i'll stick with my prediction of a lower over all prize pool for 2013. You're an idiot, plain and simple. That, or a troll. You have consistently and repeatedly dodged everything anyone has said that shows the main subject of this blog, which you wrote, is wrong. Please provide proof on how you are right, or shut up. No, you don't read. This WCS announcement is hardly a sign of improved support. Its chaos and confusion. Again, try reading http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406203¤tpage=26#516if you disagree with the content of Martjin's post .. or my post .. then go for it... but this is a waste of time.
It IS improved support. It's also the first time Blizzard are trying a large year long league, so you can't expect it to be perfect. You need to get into your skull that you are actually wrong, and that just claiming otherwise does not make it so.
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On April 06 2013 18:59 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 18:57 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 06 2013 18:55 kollin wrote:On April 06 2013 18:50 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 06 2013 16:13 Ianuus wrote:On April 05 2013 10:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 05 2013 10:26 Ryalnos wrote:
This blog is delicious now. 3.25 million in total was handed out in 2012. you think all the other events outside of WCS will add up to 1.7 million in 2013? i don't. Except this blog isn't about private company support, it's about Blizzard's support. God I love it when people are spectacularly wrong, then still try to argue to save face. It makes me feel a lot better about myself. 1. in the blog i predicted LOWER TOTAL PRIZE POOL FOR 2013 and fewer events. 2. none of the "private company support" is possible without Blizzard. Every tournament requires a license from Blizzard. 3. Blizzard has already stated "we are not telling u where the money is coming from" so to claim this new announcement proves Blizzard "support" is improved... you can't say that. " PCG: Are the prize pools for MLG, GSL, and other participating WCS leagues now provided by Blizzard?
MM: We’re not getting into details on where the money’s coming from. Blizzard is working in partnership with all of the tournament operators." Blizzard just pulled a huge fast one and many people swallowed it hook line and sinker. However, here is an excellent sober second thought on the matter.. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406203¤tpage=26#516kudos to the poster for having the balls to put in writing what every team is going through. this is a giant mess and is hardly a sign of "improved Blizzard support". and, i'll stick with my prediction of a lower over all prize pool for 2013. You're an idiot, plain and simple. That, or a troll. You have consistently and repeatedly dodged everything anyone has said that shows the main subject of this blog, which you wrote, is wrong. Please provide proof on how you are right, or shut up. No, you don't read. This WCS announcement is hardly a sign of improved support. Its chaos and confusion. Again, try reading http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406203¤tpage=26#516if you disagree with the content of Martjin's post .. or my post .. then go for it... but this is a waste of time. It IS improved support. It's also the first time Blizzard are trying a large year long league, so you can't expect it to be perfect. You need to get into your skull that you are actually wrong, and that just claiming otherwise does not make it so.
i'm just watching the confusion.
do you know the points system?
does playing in Code "A" lock u into Korea for the year?
this thing is so much better GomTV has to offer refunds LOL
a year from now Blizzard will have a totally new plan and they'll explain why this plan didnt "meet their goals".
kinda like they did in their PCGamer interview about why they changed from WCS 2012 to WCS 2013.
In Blizzard own words they said they wanted to make things clearer for fans and easier to understand.
well... its April 6, 2013... when will we know the points system, the Code "S" system for NA, the up and down rules for Code "A" and Code "S" in NA... when will we know that?
in June for 2013?
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On April 06 2013 19:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 18:59 kollin wrote:On April 06 2013 18:57 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 06 2013 18:55 kollin wrote:On April 06 2013 18:50 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 06 2013 16:13 Ianuus wrote:On April 05 2013 10:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 05 2013 10:26 Ryalnos wrote:
This blog is delicious now. 3.25 million in total was handed out in 2012. you think all the other events outside of WCS will add up to 1.7 million in 2013? i don't. Except this blog isn't about private company support, it's about Blizzard's support. God I love it when people are spectacularly wrong, then still try to argue to save face. It makes me feel a lot better about myself. 1. in the blog i predicted LOWER TOTAL PRIZE POOL FOR 2013 and fewer events. 2. none of the "private company support" is possible without Blizzard. Every tournament requires a license from Blizzard. 3. Blizzard has already stated "we are not telling u where the money is coming from" so to claim this new announcement proves Blizzard "support" is improved... you can't say that. " PCG: Are the prize pools for MLG, GSL, and other participating WCS leagues now provided by Blizzard?
MM: We’re not getting into details on where the money’s coming from. Blizzard is working in partnership with all of the tournament operators." Blizzard just pulled a huge fast one and many people swallowed it hook line and sinker. However, here is an excellent sober second thought on the matter.. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406203¤tpage=26#516kudos to the poster for having the balls to put in writing what every team is going through. this is a giant mess and is hardly a sign of "improved Blizzard support". and, i'll stick with my prediction of a lower over all prize pool for 2013. You're an idiot, plain and simple. That, or a troll. You have consistently and repeatedly dodged everything anyone has said that shows the main subject of this blog, which you wrote, is wrong. Please provide proof on how you are right, or shut up. No, you don't read. This WCS announcement is hardly a sign of improved support. Its chaos and confusion. Again, try reading http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406203¤tpage=26#516if you disagree with the content of Martjin's post .. or my post .. then go for it... but this is a waste of time. It IS improved support. It's also the first time Blizzard are trying a large year long league, so you can't expect it to be perfect. You need to get into your skull that you are actually wrong, and that just claiming otherwise does not make it so. i'm just watching the confusion. do you know the points system? does playing in Code "A" lock u into Korea for the year? this thing is so much better GomTV has to offer refunds LOL a year from now Blizzard will have a totally new plan and they'll explain why this plan didnt "meet their goals". kinda like they did in their PCGamer interview about why they changed from WCS 2012 to WCS 2013.
What the fuck are you even talking about? Whatever, it doesn't matter I'm done here. If you're immature enough to the point where you are incapable of accepting that you are wrong then I won't even bother.
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On April 06 2013 19:05 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 19:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 06 2013 18:59 kollin wrote:On April 06 2013 18:57 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 06 2013 18:55 kollin wrote:On April 06 2013 18:50 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 06 2013 16:13 Ianuus wrote:On April 05 2013 10:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 05 2013 10:26 Ryalnos wrote:
This blog is delicious now. 3.25 million in total was handed out in 2012. you think all the other events outside of WCS will add up to 1.7 million in 2013? i don't. Except this blog isn't about private company support, it's about Blizzard's support. God I love it when people are spectacularly wrong, then still try to argue to save face. It makes me feel a lot better about myself. 1. in the blog i predicted LOWER TOTAL PRIZE POOL FOR 2013 and fewer events. 2. none of the "private company support" is possible without Blizzard. Every tournament requires a license from Blizzard. 3. Blizzard has already stated "we are not telling u where the money is coming from" so to claim this new announcement proves Blizzard "support" is improved... you can't say that. " PCG: Are the prize pools for MLG, GSL, and other participating WCS leagues now provided by Blizzard?
MM: We’re not getting into details on where the money’s coming from. Blizzard is working in partnership with all of the tournament operators." Blizzard just pulled a huge fast one and many people swallowed it hook line and sinker. However, here is an excellent sober second thought on the matter.. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406203¤tpage=26#516kudos to the poster for having the balls to put in writing what every team is going through. this is a giant mess and is hardly a sign of "improved Blizzard support". and, i'll stick with my prediction of a lower over all prize pool for 2013. You're an idiot, plain and simple. That, or a troll. You have consistently and repeatedly dodged everything anyone has said that shows the main subject of this blog, which you wrote, is wrong. Please provide proof on how you are right, or shut up. No, you don't read. This WCS announcement is hardly a sign of improved support. Its chaos and confusion. Again, try reading http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406203¤tpage=26#516if you disagree with the content of Martjin's post .. or my post .. then go for it... but this is a waste of time. It IS improved support. It's also the first time Blizzard are trying a large year long league, so you can't expect it to be perfect. You need to get into your skull that you are actually wrong, and that just claiming otherwise does not make it so. i'm just watching the confusion. do you know the points system? does playing in Code "A" lock u into Korea for the year? this thing is so much better GomTV has to offer refunds LOL a year from now Blizzard will have a totally new plan and they'll explain why this plan didnt "meet their goals". kinda like they did in their PCGamer interview about why they changed from WCS 2012 to WCS 2013. What the fuck are you even talking about? Whatever, it doesn't matter I'm done here. If you're immature enough to the point where you are incapable of accepting that you are wrong then I won't even bother.
because you do not have any answers at all..
beceause no one knows what is going on.
because WCS 2013 is total anarchy.
and you call this "better support" 
and just so i'm not "labelled" as a complainer.
Blizzard makes the best RTS games ever made. They are just not very good at over-seeing competitive leagues.
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On April 06 2013 19:07 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 19:05 kollin wrote:On April 06 2013 19:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 06 2013 18:59 kollin wrote:On April 06 2013 18:57 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 06 2013 18:55 kollin wrote:On April 06 2013 18:50 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 06 2013 16:13 Ianuus wrote:On April 05 2013 10:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 05 2013 10:26 Ryalnos wrote:
This blog is delicious now. 3.25 million in total was handed out in 2012. you think all the other events outside of WCS will add up to 1.7 million in 2013? i don't. Except this blog isn't about private company support, it's about Blizzard's support. God I love it when people are spectacularly wrong, then still try to argue to save face. It makes me feel a lot better about myself. 1. in the blog i predicted LOWER TOTAL PRIZE POOL FOR 2013 and fewer events. 2. none of the "private company support" is possible without Blizzard. Every tournament requires a license from Blizzard. 3. Blizzard has already stated "we are not telling u where the money is coming from" so to claim this new announcement proves Blizzard "support" is improved... you can't say that. " PCG: Are the prize pools for MLG, GSL, and other participating WCS leagues now provided by Blizzard?
MM: We’re not getting into details on where the money’s coming from. Blizzard is working in partnership with all of the tournament operators." Blizzard just pulled a huge fast one and many people swallowed it hook line and sinker. However, here is an excellent sober second thought on the matter.. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406203¤tpage=26#516kudos to the poster for having the balls to put in writing what every team is going through. this is a giant mess and is hardly a sign of "improved Blizzard support". and, i'll stick with my prediction of a lower over all prize pool for 2013. You're an idiot, plain and simple. That, or a troll. You have consistently and repeatedly dodged everything anyone has said that shows the main subject of this blog, which you wrote, is wrong. Please provide proof on how you are right, or shut up. No, you don't read. This WCS announcement is hardly a sign of improved support. Its chaos and confusion. Again, try reading http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406203¤tpage=26#516if you disagree with the content of Martjin's post .. or my post .. then go for it... but this is a waste of time. It IS improved support. It's also the first time Blizzard are trying a large year long league, so you can't expect it to be perfect. You need to get into your skull that you are actually wrong, and that just claiming otherwise does not make it so. i'm just watching the confusion. do you know the points system? does playing in Code "A" lock u into Korea for the year? this thing is so much better GomTV has to offer refunds LOL a year from now Blizzard will have a totally new plan and they'll explain why this plan didnt "meet their goals". kinda like they did in their PCGamer interview about why they changed from WCS 2012 to WCS 2013. What the fuck are you even talking about? Whatever, it doesn't matter I'm done here. If you're immature enough to the point where you are incapable of accepting that you are wrong then I won't even bother. because you do not have any answers at all.. beceause no one knows what is going on. because WCS 2013 is total anarchy. and you call this "better support" and just so i'm not "labelled" as a complainer. Blizzard makes the best RTS games ever made. They are just not very good at over-seeing competitive leagues.
The reason why people have labeled you as "complainer" is because you keep making up stuff, some people would even go as far as calling the very definition of the Strawman argumentation, not only do you use false analogies, like comparing SC2 with Carsports regarding sponsors and money, i mean they have so much in common, right? and of course you will make up some shit for this so it fits, in your head at least, as always.
You also keep changing the premises which you base your argument on, first it was that Blizzard is pulling back support (look at your damn blog title) Then you changed to less pricemoney, even though there is no proof of this since 2013 hasnt gone by yet and that you have not provided a single credible source as proof for this other than your own made up reason. Once this did not work you brought up the fact that GOMTV is giving refunds because of lesser events, even though the link you gave as proof clealry explains that the reason was that 720p now is free compared to before when only standard definition was availble.
Since this did not work you went back to just lesser pricepool, which again, you can't actually know since 2013 is not done yet and no clear evidence of this is present, but you make shit up so why not say it anyway, right? The only other "proof" of whatever your basis of logic is now, is that Blizzard hasn't revealed where the money has come from.
Surely this isn't enough so you use these changes that has happened as an excuse to re-define it into something bad. In fact you are so aware of this community with such a insight that you can claim that "no one knows what is going on" and that "WCS 2013 is total anarchy" Allot of people would argue that they actually know what is going on, and I hardly need to tell you that anarchy means no form of leadership or rules So i don't even understand why you even put that in there.
My only guess is that YOU think that no one knows anything and that YOU think that this community is in anarchy, and since you think that then it doesn't matter if others thinks otherwise and actually knows something about this, enough to make money, keep the entire sc2 ecosystem working, being able to own and train teams and so forth.
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Dear JimmyTryHard,
In order to give my last response (in a serious manner) on this topic, I'll try to break these points you attempt to make into constructive elements. Do note however, that I will write these from the way I have interpreted your statements, so perhaps I may summarize things slightly direct.
First off, you seem to have a general message that the following points are happening:
[*] The total prizepool for 2013 will be lower than 2012 according to your estimates.
[*] The level of support that Blizzard is offering suffers, rather than improve
[*] You say that Blizzard Entertainment is directly influencing the tournaments in terms of how these tournaments are run and where the money comes from.
[*] The new system is not helping but pure chaos.
As you might understand, these summarized points are not something I agree with.
So let me break them down towards some sensible arguments.
The total prizepool for 2013 will be lower than 2012 according to your estimates.
I find this an interesting prediction, that perhaps could be right but it is not based on fact. You are counting the current prizepool from January to April, yet we have 8 more months this year to fill. In my opinion, you can not claim so loudly that the prizepool will be lower, without having any inside knowledge. Knowledge that you have yet to show within this argument, ergo not existing untill you do provide it.
The level of support that Blizzard is offering suffers, rather than improving
I do not agree with this statement, due to the fact that Blizzard Entertainment has been spending a lot of effort to grow and sustain this industry by helping out initiatives with idea's, and often act as mediator between various parties. The point that people are being laid off, is not a clear indication of change in support. People may have been placed to another part of the company, which makes it seem for you and me that the support goes down, while in fact it gets better with people doing dedicated jobs to that eSports aspect.
You say that Blizzard Entertainment is directly influencing the tournaments in terms of how these tournaments are run and where the money comes from.
As far as I know, Blizzard Entertainment has not directly and financially backed the tournaments across the board, with perhaps the GSL as an exception. What Blizzard does, is providing a license to a tournament host. This license permits the holder to host a tournament, in accordance to a few key rules. One of these rules I remember, is that in live tournaments the Blizzard logo should be visible at different points during the stream/cast.
I'd like to give you an example.
My studies involve Information Security Management for banks, corporations and such. In these studies, we have to deal with various law aspects as these companies that we will work at, are bound to them aswell. When you open such a law, for example regarding auditing of financial systems, you will not see an exact description of the requirements of such system, or the methods. Instead, you get a list of criteria that you've got to pass before you're able to be audited properly. HOW you do that, is largely up to your organisation. Some even ignore parts of the law because the solution is more expensive than the fine they get when crossing the line.
With these licenses, Blizzard is doing the exact same as what your government (Parliament) does. It creates an outline for a law with criteria to meet, and then leaves the bodies that deal with such law, implement it themselves. They give tips if needed, but they don't do it FOR them.
But but... you didn't tell me where the money comes from!
Then perhaps it is time for you to actually do some research, look up the various companies that host these events and you'll find that there's quite a few organisations investing because it is a.... behold... Marketing opportunity . An organisation is not required to tell you as a non-stakeholder* what they earn their money on, nor would you tell me where you earn how much, and how you spend it. If you like that information then go to the stock market and buy stock into the companies you'd like to have the information about.
* = Note: Stakeholder in the broad sense of the word. This includes the 'stakeholders', government and business partners of the organisation
But, now Blizzard is changing WCS and it's all chaos? It's confusing!
Yes, it is chaos because it's NEW. Every new venture and major change that affects the whole scene requires time to be worked out. Some things will change, some things will not. You've quoted the MC post, which has valuable points but it also focuses on the opportunities of Koreans compared to the world. They started with three major regions and then will expand it. A little piece of advice: If you try something new, start small and make it sustainable before you expand. You can't just 'hatch first' on such a grand scale without knowing if the opponent is going to be aggressive or not, to put it into Starcraft terms. The opponent here, are customers that eventually make or break your new idea.
Well, I think you are still wrong because I am right and that's that!
Honestly, I am pretty sure you've already shown the world that we shouldn't take you that serious. If you wish to be delusional, then that's your choice. I am not saying my views are amazing, but I am open for discussion and able to accept that I might be wrong. I might look at it from a different perspective, and then maybe my views change aswell. The point is that you are like an ostrich. You stick your head in the sand and mumble "lalalalala I cant hear you" whenever you're proven wrong or questioned about the validity of a statement
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I forgot to add that you're awfully impatient. They expressed the intention to change things, working on the last details and knowing Blizzard they will come out in time with all the details required.
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Why do people want SO HARD for SC2 to be dying? Why can't you just admit that...maybe things aren't actually bad rofl
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please read the DISCLAIMER.
SC2 and the Starcraft franchise are doing great and Blizzard will continue to make a giant pile of money from sales of the game.
I'd like to add... I love Starcraft and I think Blizzard is the best game developer on the planet.
They are lousy at over-seeing competitive leagues.
Much in the same way.. the guy who invented baseball wouldn't necessarily have the skill set required to run MLB.
more on the total anarchy that has followed Blizzard's big announcement.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406571
to quote TotalBiscuit
"This whole thing is a goddamn mess. I have contacts at Blizzard yet I'm still not 100% sure about how this thing is working. "
this has not "improved support" for the game.
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On April 07 2013 06:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:please read the DISCLAIMER. SC2 and the Starcraft franchise are doing great and Blizzard will continue to make a giant pile of money from sales of the game. I'd like to add... I love Starcraft and I think Blizzard is the best game developer on the planet. They are lousy at over-seeing competitive leagues. Much in the same way.. the guy who invented baseball wouldn't necessarily have the skill set required to run MLB. more on the total anarchy that has followed Blizzard's big announcement. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406571to quote TotalBiscuit " This whole thing is a goddamn mess. I have contacts at Blizzard yet I'm still not 100% sure about how this thing is working. " this has not "improved support" for the game.
replace "total anarchy" with "temporary confusion", because that what it is. And once you done that your last sentence no longer makes sense.
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Well, they certainly haven't scaled back their support.
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On April 07 2013 06:52 eviltomahawk wrote:
Well, they certainly haven't scaled back their support.
actually, according the Morhaime's own quote in PCGamer.com they no longer will reveal their level of support.
so its all speculation now.
but this latest move certainly doesn't feel like "better support".
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On April 07 2013 06:54 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 06:52 eviltomahawk wrote:
Well, they certainly haven't scaled back their support. actually, according the Morhaime's own quote in PCGamer.com they no longer will reveal their level of support. so its all speculation now. but this latest move certainly doesn't feel like "better support".
Regardless of your own definition of "support" Blizzard still spent allot of money and resources on this and therefore should be viewed as such.
And please don't bring up the current confusion as a counterpoint since it only involves Korea GSL regarding an announcement of the region locking that players choosing the Korean region in Season 1 (the current season lasting until June) are allowed a one-time-only opportunity to change their region at the end of the season and that the confusion has been brought up after that certain korean teams has been told that they only have 10 days instead of the promised June deadline to make a decision and that they want clarification about this since the teams have planned their players schedule after the original announcement.
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On April 07 2013 06:54 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 06:52 eviltomahawk wrote:
Well, they certainly haven't scaled back their support. actually, according the Morhaime's own quote in PCGamer.com they no longer will reveal their level of support. so its all speculation now. but this latest move certainly doesn't feel like "better support".
And now you come with another random comment because you don't want to admit you might possibly be wrong?
Hah.
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On April 07 2013 06:54 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 06:52 eviltomahawk wrote:
Well, they certainly haven't scaled back their support. actually, according the Morhaime's own quote in PCGamer.com they no longer will reveal their level of support. so its all speculation now. but this latest move certainly doesn't feel like "better support".
It's not necessarily scaled back support either. We're all grasping at straws here.
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