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The Great Blizzard eSports Experiment Is Over - Page 5

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Aelonius
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands432 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 17:27:03
April 05 2013 17:24 GMT
#81
On April 06 2013 01:54 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i predicted a lower prize pool for 2013 ..
this is the truest measure of BLizzard's support because Blizzard is intricately 'partnered" with all the major event holders.
the biggest problem players face today is no money.


I am going to ignore the rest, since 99% of your arguments are invalid or have been countered.
My only response on this message I did quote is that we currently are in APRIL and already we are set for HALF the amount we spent last year. Predict all you want, but you still aren't going to be making any valuable points. The year is not over, so any argument that 'it is lower now than 2012' kind of makes no sense. Come back with a solid statement after the year is over, without incorporating two dozen of inconsistencies and claims you pulled out your butthole.

Edit:

Blizzard partnered with the organisations to help them set up a good experience and system, but by no means have spent money into the leagues in the way they do now. The mere fact that you're unable to provide evidence that supports your argument that Blizzard Entertainment is involved into funding the prize pools for multiple leagues, shows that you're just here to kick up dirt and not get any constructive point across.
''The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.''—Ronald Reagan
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
April 05 2013 18:51 GMT
#82
i said there would be fewer events.
nice to see GomTV issuing refunds because of this.


http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=300450&cid=0&kind=8
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
April 05 2013 18:52 GMT
#83
On April 06 2013 03:51 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i said there would be fewer events.
nice to see GomTV issuing refunds because of this.


http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=300450&cid=0&kind=8

Blizzard has quietly and substantially scaled back their support of SC2 eSports.

Stop fucking lying.
FryBender
Profile Joined January 2011
United States290 Posts
April 05 2013 19:19 GMT
#84
I have absolutely no interest in the actual topic but can I just say how hilarious it is to watch someone be so wrong and yet argue so hard. Jimmy, Blizzard could not possibly have done more to prove your OP wrong. You said they are scaling back support instead they are putting more money into it now then ever. What else do you need Blizzard to do in order to admit you're wrong?
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6272 Posts
April 05 2013 19:56 GMT
#85
On April 06 2013 04:19 FryBender wrote:
I have absolutely no interest in the actual topic but can I just say how hilarious it is to watch someone be so wrong and yet argue so hard. Jimmy, Blizzard could not possibly have done more to prove your OP wrong. You said they are scaling back support instead they are putting more money into it now then ever. What else do you need Blizzard to do in order to admit you're wrong?

Nobody is wrong on the internet!
FryBender
Profile Joined January 2011
United States290 Posts
April 05 2013 19:58 GMT
#86
On April 06 2013 04:56 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 04:19 FryBender wrote:
I have absolutely no interest in the actual topic but can I just say how hilarious it is to watch someone be so wrong and yet argue so hard. Jimmy, Blizzard could not possibly have done more to prove your OP wrong. You said they are scaling back support instead they are putting more money into it now then ever. What else do you need Blizzard to do in order to admit you're wrong?

Nobody is wrong on the internet!


Good point
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 05 2013 20:20 GMT
#87
On April 06 2013 02:03 kollin wrote:
Where did Blizzard say they are bigger than NHL? Also, read the title of this fucking blog. Now read the first line. Now please for the love of god admit you were incorrect and Blizzard did not give up in esports.

Here.

Itzik Ben-Bassat: We were just told the other day that by numbers, StarCraft is bigger than the NHL. If you look just as the last month, we had several live broadcasts, MLG Dallas with record breaking concurrent viewers. Even the Heart of the Swarm release was really successful, with high viewership numbers.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
April 05 2013 20:44 GMT
#88
So, using numbers, Starcraft is bigger than the NHL. Cool, it doesn't seem like Blozzard are trying to spin anything negative into their favour.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 05 2013 20:57 GMT
#89
On April 06 2013 03:52 kollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 03:51 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i said there would be fewer events.
nice to see GomTV issuing refunds because of this.


http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=300450&cid=0&kind=8

Show nested quote +
Blizzard has quietly and substantially scaled back their support of SC2 eSports.

Stop fucking lying.

Its not lying if you make your argument so fluid and always select the numbers that make sure your theory is always proven correct. Haven't you read Calvin and Hobbs: "Lower your expectations until they are already met".

This Blog has become amazing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
April 05 2013 20:58 GMT
#90
On April 06 2013 05:57 Plansix wrote:
This Blog has become amazing.

I should have known when I saw this blog back at the top of the blog section that something magical was happening
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
April 05 2013 21:05 GMT
#91
It's just painful now :;
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 05 2013 21:16 GMT
#92
On April 06 2013 05:58 bonifaceviii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 05:57 Plansix wrote:
This Blog has become amazing.

I should have known when I saw this blog back at the top of the blog section that something magical was happening

Only best kind of magic, where logic and math are defeated and we can be whatever we want to be.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
April 05 2013 21:38 GMT
#93
Just read the blog, had a good laugh considering recent announcements.
A bit unfair though to laugh in hindsight, in February you could make a case to come to such conclusions.
Get off my lawn, young punks
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 05 2013 23:32 GMT
#94
Guys, none of you have yet considered that in a hypothetical parallel universe, Blizzard has decided to cut all funding for SC2. In this other universe, there are green cats as well. Therefore, the OP is true in a multiversal sense and you should all be ashamed of yourselves.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Gofarman
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada648 Posts
April 05 2013 23:44 GMT
#95
Is there a Hall of Fame we can archive this thread to?

Every time anyone says SC2 is dieing I'm just gonna link them this thread.

Glorious.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
April 06 2013 00:20 GMT
#96
On April 06 2013 03:51 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i said there would be fewer events.
nice to see GomTV issuing refunds because of this.


http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=300450&cid=0&kind=8

You do realize that you just provided a link which contradicted your reason for why GomTV offered a refund. Do you even read and try to understand things before you comment on them?

I literally can't believe that you actually used a source claiming to support your reasoning when it in actuality confirmes that you are wrong.
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Aelonius
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands432 Posts
April 06 2013 00:55 GMT
#97
Lets rename the OP to "JimmyTryHard"
''The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.''—Ronald Reagan
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 06 2013 03:09 GMT
#98
ROFL holy cow I expected jimmy to ignore this or something but he still thinks he's right? lol holy cow.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Ianuus
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia349 Posts
April 06 2013 07:13 GMT
#99
On April 05 2013 10:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 10:26 Ryalnos wrote:
This blog is delicious now.


3.25 million in total was handed out in 2012.
you think all the other events outside of WCS will add up to 1.7 million in 2013?
i don't.


Except this blog isn't about private company support, it's about Blizzard's support.

God I love it when people are spectacularly wrong, then still try to argue to save face. It makes me feel a lot better about myself.
snexwang
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia224 Posts
April 06 2013 07:57 GMT
#100
The sky will always be falling.
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