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I typically start writing these blogs when I get bored/sad and feel the need to talk to someone without directly bothering anyone that I know. It leads to me writing my life story which can get quite extensive, but this time I'll do my best to be concise and I'll leave a lot of things out. Here goes. [Note: Sorry, it turned out messy]
On dec 23rd last year I got dumped by my gf of 7 years, technically we had been engaged for the previous 3 years or so. I didn't take it so well, and unfortunately these kinds of events have a tendency of putting things into perspective. Now, I realize that I am disappointed in myself, and I ought to be...
For reference, I'm 23 now. Anywho, when I was a kid, I was pretty great. The most notable thing is, I was happy. Probably because I felt like I had something to look forward to. I was told that I could accomplish great things (lol ikr!). When teachers did their orientation things I would say that I hoped to be a "scientist" which is funny in retrospect but whatever, it was cute I'm sure. However a series of events, some of which I'll probably never know about, led to me progressively lowering the bar all the way down to where I am now.
I assume this is common, but when I was about 11-12, I stopped caring about my grades, and although I was consistently miles above the class averages, I was no where in the elite which you need to be in to even hope to have the grades for med school. Let's say I was a B+ student, miles above a C- average. It obviously put me in the shadow of A+ students.
To make a long story short, when I was 14, one year of bad grades in math made me branch off in the wrong direction, and while I could have taken the additional class to catch up, I didn't have the drive, and I really wish I had had the maturity to go for it instead of aimlessly fucking around for years. That bad grade in math is the tangible tipping point of where my desire to go to med school went from "it'll be tough" to "fuck it I can't do it". I was lazy, I still am. It's because I'm not looking forward to anything anymore, I've given up.
Now like I said before, I'm 23, and I've been going in the wrong direction for 6 years. I've blown my way through a bachelor in political science and I'm currently working my way through a masters. I used to be at least a little bit proud of it but now I realize that it's dumb and useless. Why did I do this?
I feel like I'm checkmated, I really do. Some of my buddies tell me that I should "just fucking do it"' jump ship 1 year before getting my masters and try to work toward med school. However, the system is such that the B/B+ average that I had when I was 18ish still makes me look bad, so I likely would have to jump through hoops to get admitted to med school - we're potentially talking about needing an entire bachelor in something "related to medicine" like pharmacy for instance. Overall, it could take 13-15 years instead of the typical 10-12. I'd almost be 40. On top of that, I'm afraid I've racked too many bad habits. Maybe I wouldn't even pull it off.
I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.
And for the longest time, I was almost proud to qualify myself as an avid gamer. It was my identity and there was nothing wrong with being passionate about something - right? Meanwhile, real life was rotting away. A 23 year old poli sci bachelor wearing his team dignitas jersey, ranting on forums about how SC2 isn't good enough for me... Fucking pathetic. And why was I so proud to be a gamer? Looking back, at least for me, it was clearly a weakness... I wasn't good enough to deal with my gaming addiction, and never bothered to put the necessary efforts into anything. And today I don't feel like I've earned anything. I got my bachelor while slacking off, I'll get my masters while slacking off. Then what?
Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. Years later I'll die a nobody. I'm tearing up a little writing this here. And to think I''m an arrogant megalomaniac most of the time...
   
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what kind of jobs can you get in political science? I couldnt imagine committing to a career path and then regretting it so late in the game, but it happens to alot of people.. maybe reading some of their stories will cheer you up/help you decide what to do.
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At least you didn't drop out of high school at 15 with a GPA of 3.87 (on a scale of 4) like I did. I had a plan to do all the remedial classes that I would be required to do since I didn't graduate in 2 semesters (at community college), then get my GED (Which I ended up getting with scores of: 95th percentile math, 97th percentile science, 90th percentile social studies, 76th percentile reading, 66th percentile writing) then off to college at 16. My parents fell threw with funding and then I stopped caring. Now I've been sitting on my ass for 3 years and have came to a conclusion that I was a dumb ass.
Compared to me you have it made.
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Man, I'm currently an engineering student, but from what I see, it doesn't matter as much what degree you have, opposed to having one, which shows you can think. Work had, take initiative, search hard for a job that suits you, and start doing what makes you happy.
Sit down with yourself, look at what you want to change, and what you want to do, and just do it. You need to be able to look at your goals as a source of motivation, if literally nothing in life interests you and you don't care much for anything, your life really lacks meaning. Find meaning for yourself.
Goodluck!
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On February 02 2013 13:18 Assault_1 wrote: what kind of jobs can you get in political science? I couldnt imagine committing to a career path and then regretting it so late in the game, but it happens to alot of people.. maybe reading some of their stories will cheer you up/help you decide what to do. A lot of things, actually. You can work for the government (even the FBI/CIA), work for think-tanks, go into consulting, do political analysis for the military, get a PhD and become a prof, etc. It's not a bad field to go into if you build up your resume along the way and know exactly what you're gunning for. (I have two poli sci friends who are both heading down the analysis/think-tank route, for example, and they started their run for those careers three years ago. It is really a pretty decent field for employment, in my opinion.)
I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis So do something interesting like, uh, most interesting people? :/ Sorry if I sound harsh, but interesting people aren't "interesting" by default. They're interesting because of their experiences. Sure, you screwed up and have wasted a big chunk of your life, but you should take that as motivation to get it back on-track. (Why do you want to apply to med school anyways ...?)
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On February 02 2013 13:18 Assault_1 wrote: what kind of jobs can you get in political science? I couldnt imagine committing to a career path and then regretting it so late in the game, but it happens to alot of people.. maybe reading some of their stories will cheer you up/help you decide what to do. My specific brand of political science leads to civil service positions and maybe journalism if I were to take a few classes in that direction. I didn't get in political science for a career though but reality is settling in.
On February 02 2013 13:33 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 13:18 Assault_1 wrote: what kind of jobs can you get in political science? I couldnt imagine committing to a career path and then regretting it so late in the game, but it happens to alot of people.. maybe reading some of their stories will cheer you up/help you decide what to do. A lot of things, actually. You can work for the government (even the FBI/CIA), work for think-tanks, go into consulting, do political analysis for the military, get a PhD and become a prof, etc. It's not a bad field to go into if you build up your resume along the way and know exactly what you're gunning for. (I have two poli sci friends who are both heading down the analysis/think-tank route, for example, and they started their run for those careers three years ago. It is really a pretty decent field for employment, in my opinion.) Show nested quote +I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis So do something interesting like, uh, most interesting people? :/ Sorry if I sound harsh, but interesting people aren't "interesting" by default. They're interesting because of their experiences. Sure, you screwed up and have wasted a big chunk of your life, but you should take that as motivation to get it back on-track. (Why do you want to apply to med school anyways ...?) I don't have what it takes to be interesting. You mention doing "resume building" and I haven't done anything outside of class. I've specifically avoided internships for that matter, because they take a LOT of time and don't give many credits. I'm more interested in having my degree and being done with it, rather than doing thing specifically to open up job opportunities that depress me. I guess I have this attitude where "we'll see". It feels better to me than just consciously moving toward a specific kind of doom.
And I like medicine because doctors are some of the people that I have the most respect for. There are plenty of folks who's jobs make a difference and I respect that - but I have so much admiration for doctors. It helps that they saved my life more than once - I'd finally feel like I was worth something if I did that. Right now, my entire formation is about doing shoddy social science research. In other words, in a week I can write a 40 pages document that nobody will ever read. There are very few private enterprises that would hire me after I'm done - like you said, it's government jobs because the government doesn't know how to spend its money and so it'll happily fund an excessive amount of inconsequential research.
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It is kind of sad. We live in a society where your actions when you were young, stupid and clueless have such a huge impact for the rest of your life. I'm in a similiar situation myself although im a tad older. Just don't throw in the towel but try to make yourself happier instead.
Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis.
I'm pretty sure that's like 99% of people right there. Most people aren't doing what they "really" want to do or atleast they don't think they're living an interesting life.
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Here in Australia the content of your degree doesn't matter so much as having the degree. My father's friend is an engineer with a bachelor of agricultural science or something, that just has been working in the engineering field so long that that's all that matters. If he didn't have that bachelor's it would be pretty hard to have gotten into the field though. I'm not sure how useful a masters would be though, but aren't they normally like only 2-3 years anyway?
It seems to me that you're just suffering from excessive sadness (from the breakup), or perhaps longterm depression, in which case even if you were at med-school you'd feel shit too. Part of life is realizing that everyone has a role to play, a doctor isn't all that more important than any other profession, unless you have a huge shortage of doctors or something in your country, to fill a dire need. I think if you were in med school at this time you'd be having doubts about completing another 5 years or whatever to do be stuck in a narrow, taxing field for the rest of your life (or basically having wasted the whole of your life doing med-school).
If you are [actually clinically] depressed though, there's nothing anyone can say to fix it, you'll have to wait for it to pass or take action against it, coming from someone with depression.
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On February 02 2013 13:03 Djzapz wrote: I typically start writing these blogs when I get bored/sad and feel the need to talk to someone without directly bothering anyone that I know. It leads to me writing my life story which can get quite extensive, but this time I'll do my best to be concise and I'll leave a lot of things out. Here goes. [Note: Sorry, it turned out messy]
On dec 23rd last year I got dumped by my gf of 7 years, technically we had been engaged for the previous 3 years or so. I didn't take it so well, and unfortunately these kinds of events have a tendency of putting things into perspective. Now, I realize that I am disappointed in myself, and I ought to be...
For reference, I'm 23 now. Anywho, when I was a kid, I was pretty great. The most notable thing is, I was happy. Probably because I felt like I had something to look forward to. I was told that I could accomplish great things (lol ikr!). When teachers did their orientation things I would say that I hoped to be a "scientist" which is funny in retrospect but whatever, it was cute I'm sure. However a series of events, some of which I'll probably never know about, led to me progressively lowering the bar all the way down to where I am now.
I assume this is common, but when I was about 11-12, I stopped caring about my grades, and although I was consistently miles above the class averages, I was no where in the elite which you need to be in to even hope to have the grades for med school. Let's say I was a B+ student, miles above a C- average. It obviously put me in the shadow of A+ students.
To make a long story short, when I was 14, one year of bad grades in math made me branch off in the wrong direction, and while I could have taken the additional class to catch up, I didn't have the drive, and I really wish I had had the maturity to go for it instead of aimlessly fucking around for years. That bad grade in math is the tangible tipping point of where my desire to go to med school went from "it'll be tough" to "fuck it I can't do it". I was lazy, I still am. It's because I'm not looking forward to anything anymore, I've given up.
Now like I said before, I'm 23, and I've been going in the wrong direction for 6 years. I've blown my way through a bachelor in political science and I'm currently working my way through a masters. I used to be at least a little bit proud of it but now I realize that it's dumb and useless. Why did I do this?
I feel like I'm checkmated, I really do. Some of my buddies tell me that I should "just fucking do it"' jump ship 1 year before getting my masters and try to work toward med school. However, the system is such that the B/B+ average that I had when I was 18ish still makes me look bad, so I likely would have to jump through hoops to get admitted to med school - we're potentially talking about needing an entire bachelor in something "related to medicine" like pharmacy for instance. Overall, it could take 13-15 years instead of the typical 10-12. I'd almost be 40. On top of that, I'm afraid I've racked too many bad habits. Maybe I wouldn't even pull it off.
I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.
And for the longest time, I was almost proud to qualify myself as an avid gamer. It was my identity and there was nothing wrong with being passionate about something - right? Meanwhile, real life was rotting away. A 23 year old poli sci bachelor wearing his team dignitas jersey, ranting on forums about how SC2 isn't good enough for me... Fucking pathetic. And why was I so proud to be a gamer? Looking back, at least for me, it was clearly a weakness... I wasn't good enough to deal with my gaming addiction, and never bothered to put the necessary efforts into anything. And today I don't feel like I've earned anything. I got my bachelor while slacking off, I'll get my masters while slacking off. Then what?
Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. Years later I'll die a nobody. I'm tearing up a little writing this here. And to think I''m an arrogant megalomaniac most of the time...
I am a student of 21 who just started university in biophysics and i must say u have a very weird vision of the world. So either u go to med school and succed in one of the hardest life unimaginable (from your point of view) or end up failing and doing political science ( nothing against u guys i have alot of friends in that sector) how do u link the two. The goal of studies is to do something u like, not to take the hardest thing just because it is well seen by the society to be a doctor. There exist alot of jobs all inbetween, alot of people can make a difference in the world beside doctors.
Abandoning at 23 because u dont feel like doing is just a stupid thing to do ( and u know it!!!), maybe working on that arrogant megalomaniac thing might help u, meeting people and seeing what everyone is doing is an eye opener.
If u feel school is not for u and have to find your way in life, u could volunter around the world for the red cross or other things for charity and all the people who suffer around this world.
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Djzapz, I've talked to you on the forums a few times(most noticeably on the Quebec threads) and you were always an educating, pleasurable person to talk to. You've got at least that going for you, and likely much more you don't fully weight.
While it does suck to be 23 and have a degree in something you don't think will find you employment and you will enjoy, you are 23. Keep that in mind - you are 5 years out of high school. It is entirely possible to start another career path from now on. For example, depending on your school, engineering degrees don't require super high admission averages and yield high paying jobs(on the flip side they are a lot of work).
Your situation is not entirely hopeless - but it is an uphill climb. You dug yourself into a hole through your earlier actions, and now you have to dig yourself back out. You can do it, but it'll require you to care and devote yourself to it. And if you don't devote yourself to turning your life around then you'll become another one of those uninteresting people doing uninteresting things wasting your life away. And no one will care except you.
To be honest, it seems like you are going through a period of depression, maybe stemming from your breakup. The same thing happened to me earlier in the year. Things fell through with a girl, bad thought cycle occurred, had serious doubts about what I was doing, etc. If you feel it may be depression try breaking it ASAP. Here is some advice. The key points are get outside and get more exercise.
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On February 02 2013 14:24 Daray wrote:Show nested quote +Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. I'm pretty sure that's like 99% of people right there. Most people aren't doing what they "really" want to do or atleast they don't think they're living an interesting life. I'd settle with being at least mostly comfortable with what I do. Reading myself, I come off as condescending to people who have certain types of jobs, but I know there are janitors out there who have more heart than I do and are happier than I ever will be.
On February 02 2013 14:25 Rollin wrote: Here in Australia the content of your degree doesn't matter so much as having the degree. My father's friend is an engineer with a bachelor of agricultural science or something, that just has been working in the engineering field so long that that's all that matters. If he didn't have that bachelor's it would be pretty hard to have gotten into the field though. I'm not sure how useful a masters would be though, but aren't they normally like only 2-3 years anyway?
It seems to me that you're just suffering from excessive sadness (from the breakup), or perhaps longterm depression, in which case even if you were at med-school you'd feel shit too. Part of life is realizing that everyone has a role to play, a doctor isn't all that more important than any other profession, unless you have a huge shortage of doctors or something in your country, to fill a dire need. I think if you were in med school at this time you'd be having doubts about completing another 5 years or whatever to do be stuck in a narrow, taxing field for the rest of your life (or basically having wasted the whole of your life doing med-school).
If you are [actually clinically] depressed though, there's nothing anyone can say to fix it, you'll have to wait for it to pass or take action against it, coming from someone with depression. I've felt like this before the breakup as well, it comes and goes. I've been sad in general for a while, generally I just don't think about it... but I don't know that it's depression, I don't think so. Anyway I dunno so I can't really talk about it.
As for the doctor thing, it's just that I personally look up to them.
On February 02 2013 14:36 Darkren wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 13:03 Djzapz wrote: I typically start writing these blogs when I get bored/sad and feel the need to talk to someone without directly bothering anyone that I know. It leads to me writing my life story which can get quite extensive, but this time I'll do my best to be concise and I'll leave a lot of things out. Here goes. [Note: Sorry, it turned out messy]
On dec 23rd last year I got dumped by my gf of 7 years, technically we had been engaged for the previous 3 years or so. I didn't take it so well, and unfortunately these kinds of events have a tendency of putting things into perspective. Now, I realize that I am disappointed in myself, and I ought to be...
For reference, I'm 23 now. Anywho, when I was a kid, I was pretty great. The most notable thing is, I was happy. Probably because I felt like I had something to look forward to. I was told that I could accomplish great things (lol ikr!). When teachers did their orientation things I would say that I hoped to be a "scientist" which is funny in retrospect but whatever, it was cute I'm sure. However a series of events, some of which I'll probably never know about, led to me progressively lowering the bar all the way down to where I am now.
I assume this is common, but when I was about 11-12, I stopped caring about my grades, and although I was consistently miles above the class averages, I was no where in the elite which you need to be in to even hope to have the grades for med school. Let's say I was a B+ student, miles above a C- average. It obviously put me in the shadow of A+ students.
To make a long story short, when I was 14, one year of bad grades in math made me branch off in the wrong direction, and while I could have taken the additional class to catch up, I didn't have the drive, and I really wish I had had the maturity to go for it instead of aimlessly fucking around for years. That bad grade in math is the tangible tipping point of where my desire to go to med school went from "it'll be tough" to "fuck it I can't do it". I was lazy, I still am. It's because I'm not looking forward to anything anymore, I've given up.
Now like I said before, I'm 23, and I've been going in the wrong direction for 6 years. I've blown my way through a bachelor in political science and I'm currently working my way through a masters. I used to be at least a little bit proud of it but now I realize that it's dumb and useless. Why did I do this?
I feel like I'm checkmated, I really do. Some of my buddies tell me that I should "just fucking do it"' jump ship 1 year before getting my masters and try to work toward med school. However, the system is such that the B/B+ average that I had when I was 18ish still makes me look bad, so I likely would have to jump through hoops to get admitted to med school - we're potentially talking about needing an entire bachelor in something "related to medicine" like pharmacy for instance. Overall, it could take 13-15 years instead of the typical 10-12. I'd almost be 40. On top of that, I'm afraid I've racked too many bad habits. Maybe I wouldn't even pull it off.
I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.
And for the longest time, I was almost proud to qualify myself as an avid gamer. It was my identity and there was nothing wrong with being passionate about something - right? Meanwhile, real life was rotting away. A 23 year old poli sci bachelor wearing his team dignitas jersey, ranting on forums about how SC2 isn't good enough for me... Fucking pathetic. And why was I so proud to be a gamer? Looking back, at least for me, it was clearly a weakness... I wasn't good enough to deal with my gaming addiction, and never bothered to put the necessary efforts into anything. And today I don't feel like I've earned anything. I got my bachelor while slacking off, I'll get my masters while slacking off. Then what?
Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. Years later I'll die a nobody. I'm tearing up a little writing this here. And to think I''m an arrogant megalomaniac most of the time... I am a student of 21 who just started university in biophysics and i must say u have a very weird vision of the world. So either u go to med school and succed in one of the hardest life unimaginable (from your point of view) or end up failing and doing political science ( nothing against u guys i have alot of friends in that sector) how do u link the two. The goal of studies is to do something u like, not to take the hardest thing just because it is well seen by the society to be a doctor. There exist alot of jobs all inbetween, alot of people can make a difference in the world beside doctors. Abandoning at 23 because u dont feel like doing is just a stupid thing to do ( and u know it!!!), maybe working on that arrogant megalomaniac thing might help u, meeting people and seeing what everyone is doing is an eye opener. If u feel school is not for u and have to find your way in life, u could volunter around the world for the red cross or other things for charity and all the people who suffer around this world. I would like to go to med school because I have a lot of admiration for doctors and I can see myself actually feeling good about what I'm doing if I were a doctor. I wouldn't do it BECAUSE it hard, I would do it because I would like to do that - and it happens to be a difficult domain to get into.
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On February 02 2013 14:43 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 14:24 Daray wrote:Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. I'm pretty sure that's like 99% of people right there. Most people aren't doing what they "really" want to do or atleast they don't think they're living an interesting life. I'd settle with being at least mostly comfortable with what I do. Reading myself, I come off as condescending to people who have certain types of jobs, but I know there are janitors out there who have more heart than I do and are happier than I ever will be. Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 14:25 Rollin wrote: Here in Australia the content of your degree doesn't matter so much as having the degree. My father's friend is an engineer with a bachelor of agricultural science or something, that just has been working in the engineering field so long that that's all that matters. If he didn't have that bachelor's it would be pretty hard to have gotten into the field though. I'm not sure how useful a masters would be though, but aren't they normally like only 2-3 years anyway?
It seems to me that you're just suffering from excessive sadness (from the breakup), or perhaps longterm depression, in which case even if you were at med-school you'd feel shit too. Part of life is realizing that everyone has a role to play, a doctor isn't all that more important than any other profession, unless you have a huge shortage of doctors or something in your country, to fill a dire need. I think if you were in med school at this time you'd be having doubts about completing another 5 years or whatever to do be stuck in a narrow, taxing field for the rest of your life (or basically having wasted the whole of your life doing med-school).
If you are [actually clinically] depressed though, there's nothing anyone can say to fix it, you'll have to wait for it to pass or take action against it, coming from someone with depression. I've felt like this before the breakup as well, it comes and goes. I've been sad in general for a while, generally I just don't think about it... but I don't know that it's depression, I don't think so. Anyway I dunno so I can't really talk about it. As for the doctor thing, it's just that I personally look up to them. Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 14:36 Darkren wrote:On February 02 2013 13:03 Djzapz wrote: I typically start writing these blogs when I get bored/sad and feel the need to talk to someone without directly bothering anyone that I know. It leads to me writing my life story which can get quite extensive, but this time I'll do my best to be concise and I'll leave a lot of things out. Here goes. [Note: Sorry, it turned out messy]
On dec 23rd last year I got dumped by my gf of 7 years, technically we had been engaged for the previous 3 years or so. I didn't take it so well, and unfortunately these kinds of events have a tendency of putting things into perspective. Now, I realize that I am disappointed in myself, and I ought to be...
For reference, I'm 23 now. Anywho, when I was a kid, I was pretty great. The most notable thing is, I was happy. Probably because I felt like I had something to look forward to. I was told that I could accomplish great things (lol ikr!). When teachers did their orientation things I would say that I hoped to be a "scientist" which is funny in retrospect but whatever, it was cute I'm sure. However a series of events, some of which I'll probably never know about, led to me progressively lowering the bar all the way down to where I am now.
I assume this is common, but when I was about 11-12, I stopped caring about my grades, and although I was consistently miles above the class averages, I was no where in the elite which you need to be in to even hope to have the grades for med school. Let's say I was a B+ student, miles above a C- average. It obviously put me in the shadow of A+ students.
To make a long story short, when I was 14, one year of bad grades in math made me branch off in the wrong direction, and while I could have taken the additional class to catch up, I didn't have the drive, and I really wish I had had the maturity to go for it instead of aimlessly fucking around for years. That bad grade in math is the tangible tipping point of where my desire to go to med school went from "it'll be tough" to "fuck it I can't do it". I was lazy, I still am. It's because I'm not looking forward to anything anymore, I've given up.
Now like I said before, I'm 23, and I've been going in the wrong direction for 6 years. I've blown my way through a bachelor in political science and I'm currently working my way through a masters. I used to be at least a little bit proud of it but now I realize that it's dumb and useless. Why did I do this?
I feel like I'm checkmated, I really do. Some of my buddies tell me that I should "just fucking do it"' jump ship 1 year before getting my masters and try to work toward med school. However, the system is such that the B/B+ average that I had when I was 18ish still makes me look bad, so I likely would have to jump through hoops to get admitted to med school - we're potentially talking about needing an entire bachelor in something "related to medicine" like pharmacy for instance. Overall, it could take 13-15 years instead of the typical 10-12. I'd almost be 40. On top of that, I'm afraid I've racked too many bad habits. Maybe I wouldn't even pull it off.
I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.
And for the longest time, I was almost proud to qualify myself as an avid gamer. It was my identity and there was nothing wrong with being passionate about something - right? Meanwhile, real life was rotting away. A 23 year old poli sci bachelor wearing his team dignitas jersey, ranting on forums about how SC2 isn't good enough for me... Fucking pathetic. And why was I so proud to be a gamer? Looking back, at least for me, it was clearly a weakness... I wasn't good enough to deal with my gaming addiction, and never bothered to put the necessary efforts into anything. And today I don't feel like I've earned anything. I got my bachelor while slacking off, I'll get my masters while slacking off. Then what?
Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. Years later I'll die a nobody. I'm tearing up a little writing this here. And to think I''m an arrogant megalomaniac most of the time... I am a student of 21 who just started university in biophysics and i must say u have a very weird vision of the world. So either u go to med school and succed in one of the hardest life unimaginable (from your point of view) or end up failing and doing political science ( nothing against u guys i have alot of friends in that sector) how do u link the two. The goal of studies is to do something u like, not to take the hardest thing just because it is well seen by the society to be a doctor. There exist alot of jobs all inbetween, alot of people can make a difference in the world beside doctors. Abandoning at 23 because u dont feel like doing is just a stupid thing to do ( and u know it!!!), maybe working on that arrogant megalomaniac thing might help u, meeting people and seeing what everyone is doing is an eye opener. If u feel school is not for u and have to find your way in life, u could volunter around the world for the red cross or other things for charity and all the people who suffer around this world. I would like to go to med school because I have a lot of admiration for doctors and I can see myself actually feeling good about what I'm doing if I were a doctor. I wouldn't do it BECAUSE it hard, I would do it because I would like to do that - and it happens to be a difficult domain to get into.
U still haven't answered any of the points i bring up, there are alot of jobs that u could still get into and enjoy, (like how do u even know that u would like being a doctor, do you know what they do in first they a learn all the veins and bones in the body for a year), if u want it that badly that u cant see yourself in anything else, then that is enough motivation to go through with it.
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On February 02 2013 14:41 WarSame wrote:Djzapz, I've talked to you on the forums a few times(most noticeably on the Quebec threads) and you were always an educating, pleasurable person to talk to. You've got at least that going for you, and likely much more you don't fully weight. While it does suck to be 23 and have a degree in something you don't think will find you employment and you will enjoy, you are 23. Keep that in mind - you are 5 years out of high school. It is entirely possible to start another career path from now on. For example, depending on your school, engineering degrees don't require super high admission averages and yield high paying jobs(on the flip side they are a lot of work). Your situation is not entirely hopeless - but it is an uphill climb. You dug yourself into a hole through your earlier actions, and now you have to dig yourself back out. You can do it, but it'll require you to care and devote yourself to it. And if you don't devote yourself to turning your life around then you'll become another one of those uninteresting people doing uninteresting things wasting your life away. And no one will care except you. To be honest, it seems like you are going through a period of depression, maybe stemming from your breakup. The same thing happened to me earlier in the year. Things fell through with a girl, bad thought cycle occurred, had serious doubts about what I was doing, etc. If you feel it may be depression try breaking it ASAP. Here is some advice. The key points are get outside and get more exercise. Thank you, I'm glad you like my posting. I do tend to get overzealous sometimes, I hope you didn't see too much of my bad side =P.
And yeah I need to go outside but it's so f'ing cold =_=
On February 02 2013 14:50 Darkren wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 14:43 Djzapz wrote:On February 02 2013 14:24 Daray wrote:Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. I'm pretty sure that's like 99% of people right there. Most people aren't doing what they "really" want to do or atleast they don't think they're living an interesting life. I'd settle with being at least mostly comfortable with what I do. Reading myself, I come off as condescending to people who have certain types of jobs, but I know there are janitors out there who have more heart than I do and are happier than I ever will be. On February 02 2013 14:25 Rollin wrote: Here in Australia the content of your degree doesn't matter so much as having the degree. My father's friend is an engineer with a bachelor of agricultural science or something, that just has been working in the engineering field so long that that's all that matters. If he didn't have that bachelor's it would be pretty hard to have gotten into the field though. I'm not sure how useful a masters would be though, but aren't they normally like only 2-3 years anyway?
It seems to me that you're just suffering from excessive sadness (from the breakup), or perhaps longterm depression, in which case even if you were at med-school you'd feel shit too. Part of life is realizing that everyone has a role to play, a doctor isn't all that more important than any other profession, unless you have a huge shortage of doctors or something in your country, to fill a dire need. I think if you were in med school at this time you'd be having doubts about completing another 5 years or whatever to do be stuck in a narrow, taxing field for the rest of your life (or basically having wasted the whole of your life doing med-school).
If you are [actually clinically] depressed though, there's nothing anyone can say to fix it, you'll have to wait for it to pass or take action against it, coming from someone with depression. I've felt like this before the breakup as well, it comes and goes. I've been sad in general for a while, generally I just don't think about it... but I don't know that it's depression, I don't think so. Anyway I dunno so I can't really talk about it. As for the doctor thing, it's just that I personally look up to them. On February 02 2013 14:36 Darkren wrote:On February 02 2013 13:03 Djzapz wrote: I typically start writing these blogs when I get bored/sad and feel the need to talk to someone without directly bothering anyone that I know. It leads to me writing my life story which can get quite extensive, but this time I'll do my best to be concise and I'll leave a lot of things out. Here goes. [Note: Sorry, it turned out messy]
On dec 23rd last year I got dumped by my gf of 7 years, technically we had been engaged for the previous 3 years or so. I didn't take it so well, and unfortunately these kinds of events have a tendency of putting things into perspective. Now, I realize that I am disappointed in myself, and I ought to be...
For reference, I'm 23 now. Anywho, when I was a kid, I was pretty great. The most notable thing is, I was happy. Probably because I felt like I had something to look forward to. I was told that I could accomplish great things (lol ikr!). When teachers did their orientation things I would say that I hoped to be a "scientist" which is funny in retrospect but whatever, it was cute I'm sure. However a series of events, some of which I'll probably never know about, led to me progressively lowering the bar all the way down to where I am now.
I assume this is common, but when I was about 11-12, I stopped caring about my grades, and although I was consistently miles above the class averages, I was no where in the elite which you need to be in to even hope to have the grades for med school. Let's say I was a B+ student, miles above a C- average. It obviously put me in the shadow of A+ students.
To make a long story short, when I was 14, one year of bad grades in math made me branch off in the wrong direction, and while I could have taken the additional class to catch up, I didn't have the drive, and I really wish I had had the maturity to go for it instead of aimlessly fucking around for years. That bad grade in math is the tangible tipping point of where my desire to go to med school went from "it'll be tough" to "fuck it I can't do it". I was lazy, I still am. It's because I'm not looking forward to anything anymore, I've given up.
Now like I said before, I'm 23, and I've been going in the wrong direction for 6 years. I've blown my way through a bachelor in political science and I'm currently working my way through a masters. I used to be at least a little bit proud of it but now I realize that it's dumb and useless. Why did I do this?
I feel like I'm checkmated, I really do. Some of my buddies tell me that I should "just fucking do it"' jump ship 1 year before getting my masters and try to work toward med school. However, the system is such that the B/B+ average that I had when I was 18ish still makes me look bad, so I likely would have to jump through hoops to get admitted to med school - we're potentially talking about needing an entire bachelor in something "related to medicine" like pharmacy for instance. Overall, it could take 13-15 years instead of the typical 10-12. I'd almost be 40. On top of that, I'm afraid I've racked too many bad habits. Maybe I wouldn't even pull it off.
I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.
And for the longest time, I was almost proud to qualify myself as an avid gamer. It was my identity and there was nothing wrong with being passionate about something - right? Meanwhile, real life was rotting away. A 23 year old poli sci bachelor wearing his team dignitas jersey, ranting on forums about how SC2 isn't good enough for me... Fucking pathetic. And why was I so proud to be a gamer? Looking back, at least for me, it was clearly a weakness... I wasn't good enough to deal with my gaming addiction, and never bothered to put the necessary efforts into anything. And today I don't feel like I've earned anything. I got my bachelor while slacking off, I'll get my masters while slacking off. Then what?
Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. Years later I'll die a nobody. I'm tearing up a little writing this here. And to think I''m an arrogant megalomaniac most of the time... I am a student of 21 who just started university in biophysics and i must say u have a very weird vision of the world. So either u go to med school and succed in one of the hardest life unimaginable (from your point of view) or end up failing and doing political science ( nothing against u guys i have alot of friends in that sector) how do u link the two. The goal of studies is to do something u like, not to take the hardest thing just because it is well seen by the society to be a doctor. There exist alot of jobs all inbetween, alot of people can make a difference in the world beside doctors. Abandoning at 23 because u dont feel like doing is just a stupid thing to do ( and u know it!!!), maybe working on that arrogant megalomaniac thing might help u, meeting people and seeing what everyone is doing is an eye opener. If u feel school is not for u and have to find your way in life, u could volunter around the world for the red cross or other things for charity and all the people who suffer around this world. I would like to go to med school because I have a lot of admiration for doctors and I can see myself actually feeling good about what I'm doing if I were a doctor. I wouldn't do it BECAUSE it hard, I would do it because I would like to do that - and it happens to be a difficult domain to get into. U still haven't answered any of the points i bring up, there are alot of jobs that u could still get into and enjoy, (like how do u even know that u would like being a doctor, do you know what they do in first they a learn all the veins and bones in the body for a year), if u want it that badly that u cant see yourself in anything else, then that is enough motivation to go through with it. I haven't really been able to think of many jobs that I'd like to do, frankly. It's not that I haven't thought about it either, I have - extensively. Nothing interests me very much. As for if I absolutely know that I would like being a doctor, not at all. I'm sure that job would actually slap me around quite a bit. But there are some elements that work for me - the challenge in general, the complexity and just the possibility to directly make some sort of difference. It's hard to explain but yeah.
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it's hard giving advice to someone in such a situation. you are very privileged in many ways, but are right to be disappointed since you are not where you should have been had you done what you had to way back when. it seems as if you feel like you are too smart and too good to be at your present situation, and it's probably true. 12 years is a long time, and that is if you even reach your goal. what if you quit six years in, how would you feel then? what if you become a doctor and it itsn't quite what you thought it'd be? to me it seems like you are right in questioning where your life is going, but are not ready to make a decision on what to do with it just yet. give it some time, think about what it really is that you want, what makes you happy about being a doctor, about yourself and you might discover some other area in which you could flourish. Life can surprise you when you least expect it. best of luck.
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On February 02 2013 14:58 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 14:41 WarSame wrote:Djzapz, I've talked to you on the forums a few times(most noticeably on the Quebec threads) and you were always an educating, pleasurable person to talk to. You've got at least that going for you, and likely much more you don't fully weight. While it does suck to be 23 and have a degree in something you don't think will find you employment and you will enjoy, you are 23. Keep that in mind - you are 5 years out of high school. It is entirely possible to start another career path from now on. For example, depending on your school, engineering degrees don't require super high admission averages and yield high paying jobs(on the flip side they are a lot of work). Your situation is not entirely hopeless - but it is an uphill climb. You dug yourself into a hole through your earlier actions, and now you have to dig yourself back out. You can do it, but it'll require you to care and devote yourself to it. And if you don't devote yourself to turning your life around then you'll become another one of those uninteresting people doing uninteresting things wasting your life away. And no one will care except you. To be honest, it seems like you are going through a period of depression, maybe stemming from your breakup. The same thing happened to me earlier in the year. Things fell through with a girl, bad thought cycle occurred, had serious doubts about what I was doing, etc. If you feel it may be depression try breaking it ASAP. Here is some advice. The key points are get outside and get more exercise. Thank you, I'm glad you like my posting. I do tend to get overzealous sometimes, I hope you didn't see too much of my bad side =P. And yeah I need to go outside but it's so f'ing cold =_= Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 14:50 Darkren wrote:On February 02 2013 14:43 Djzapz wrote:On February 02 2013 14:24 Daray wrote:Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. I'm pretty sure that's like 99% of people right there. Most people aren't doing what they "really" want to do or atleast they don't think they're living an interesting life. I'd settle with being at least mostly comfortable with what I do. Reading myself, I come off as condescending to people who have certain types of jobs, but I know there are janitors out there who have more heart than I do and are happier than I ever will be. On February 02 2013 14:25 Rollin wrote: Here in Australia the content of your degree doesn't matter so much as having the degree. My father's friend is an engineer with a bachelor of agricultural science or something, that just has been working in the engineering field so long that that's all that matters. If he didn't have that bachelor's it would be pretty hard to have gotten into the field though. I'm not sure how useful a masters would be though, but aren't they normally like only 2-3 years anyway?
It seems to me that you're just suffering from excessive sadness (from the breakup), or perhaps longterm depression, in which case even if you were at med-school you'd feel shit too. Part of life is realizing that everyone has a role to play, a doctor isn't all that more important than any other profession, unless you have a huge shortage of doctors or something in your country, to fill a dire need. I think if you were in med school at this time you'd be having doubts about completing another 5 years or whatever to do be stuck in a narrow, taxing field for the rest of your life (or basically having wasted the whole of your life doing med-school).
If you are [actually clinically] depressed though, there's nothing anyone can say to fix it, you'll have to wait for it to pass or take action against it, coming from someone with depression. I've felt like this before the breakup as well, it comes and goes. I've been sad in general for a while, generally I just don't think about it... but I don't know that it's depression, I don't think so. Anyway I dunno so I can't really talk about it. As for the doctor thing, it's just that I personally look up to them. On February 02 2013 14:36 Darkren wrote:On February 02 2013 13:03 Djzapz wrote: I typically start writing these blogs when I get bored/sad and feel the need to talk to someone without directly bothering anyone that I know. It leads to me writing my life story which can get quite extensive, but this time I'll do my best to be concise and I'll leave a lot of things out. Here goes. [Note: Sorry, it turned out messy]
On dec 23rd last year I got dumped by my gf of 7 years, technically we had been engaged for the previous 3 years or so. I didn't take it so well, and unfortunately these kinds of events have a tendency of putting things into perspective. Now, I realize that I am disappointed in myself, and I ought to be...
For reference, I'm 23 now. Anywho, when I was a kid, I was pretty great. The most notable thing is, I was happy. Probably because I felt like I had something to look forward to. I was told that I could accomplish great things (lol ikr!). When teachers did their orientation things I would say that I hoped to be a "scientist" which is funny in retrospect but whatever, it was cute I'm sure. However a series of events, some of which I'll probably never know about, led to me progressively lowering the bar all the way down to where I am now.
I assume this is common, but when I was about 11-12, I stopped caring about my grades, and although I was consistently miles above the class averages, I was no where in the elite which you need to be in to even hope to have the grades for med school. Let's say I was a B+ student, miles above a C- average. It obviously put me in the shadow of A+ students.
To make a long story short, when I was 14, one year of bad grades in math made me branch off in the wrong direction, and while I could have taken the additional class to catch up, I didn't have the drive, and I really wish I had had the maturity to go for it instead of aimlessly fucking around for years. That bad grade in math is the tangible tipping point of where my desire to go to med school went from "it'll be tough" to "fuck it I can't do it". I was lazy, I still am. It's because I'm not looking forward to anything anymore, I've given up.
Now like I said before, I'm 23, and I've been going in the wrong direction for 6 years. I've blown my way through a bachelor in political science and I'm currently working my way through a masters. I used to be at least a little bit proud of it but now I realize that it's dumb and useless. Why did I do this?
I feel like I'm checkmated, I really do. Some of my buddies tell me that I should "just fucking do it"' jump ship 1 year before getting my masters and try to work toward med school. However, the system is such that the B/B+ average that I had when I was 18ish still makes me look bad, so I likely would have to jump through hoops to get admitted to med school - we're potentially talking about needing an entire bachelor in something "related to medicine" like pharmacy for instance. Overall, it could take 13-15 years instead of the typical 10-12. I'd almost be 40. On top of that, I'm afraid I've racked too many bad habits. Maybe I wouldn't even pull it off.
I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.
And for the longest time, I was almost proud to qualify myself as an avid gamer. It was my identity and there was nothing wrong with being passionate about something - right? Meanwhile, real life was rotting away. A 23 year old poli sci bachelor wearing his team dignitas jersey, ranting on forums about how SC2 isn't good enough for me... Fucking pathetic. And why was I so proud to be a gamer? Looking back, at least for me, it was clearly a weakness... I wasn't good enough to deal with my gaming addiction, and never bothered to put the necessary efforts into anything. And today I don't feel like I've earned anything. I got my bachelor while slacking off, I'll get my masters while slacking off. Then what?
Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. Years later I'll die a nobody. I'm tearing up a little writing this here. And to think I''m an arrogant megalomaniac most of the time... I am a student of 21 who just started university in biophysics and i must say u have a very weird vision of the world. So either u go to med school and succed in one of the hardest life unimaginable (from your point of view) or end up failing and doing political science ( nothing against u guys i have alot of friends in that sector) how do u link the two. The goal of studies is to do something u like, not to take the hardest thing just because it is well seen by the society to be a doctor. There exist alot of jobs all inbetween, alot of people can make a difference in the world beside doctors. Abandoning at 23 because u dont feel like doing is just a stupid thing to do ( and u know it!!!), maybe working on that arrogant megalomaniac thing might help u, meeting people and seeing what everyone is doing is an eye opener. If u feel school is not for u and have to find your way in life, u could volunter around the world for the red cross or other things for charity and all the people who suffer around this world. I would like to go to med school because I have a lot of admiration for doctors and I can see myself actually feeling good about what I'm doing if I were a doctor. I wouldn't do it BECAUSE it hard, I would do it because I would like to do that - and it happens to be a difficult domain to get into. U still haven't answered any of the points i bring up, there are alot of jobs that u could still get into and enjoy, (like how do u even know that u would like being a doctor, do you know what they do in first they a learn all the veins and bones in the body for a year), if u want it that badly that u cant see yourself in anything else, then that is enough motivation to go through with it. I haven't really been able to think of many jobs that I'd like to do, frankly. It's not that I haven't thought about it either, I have - extensively. Nothing interests me very much. As for if I absolutely know that I would like being a doctor, not at all. I'm sure that job would actually slap me around quite a bit. But there are some elements that work for me - the challenge in general, the complexity and just the possibility to directly make some sort of difference. It's hard to explain but yeah.
Look seing as youve majored in political science and that u live in canada ( i also live in quebec), u need ur pure and applied or health science to get into medical schools, i know most big univerities give a program of like 1 year and a half to catch up in all courses in science. from there u will have classes in math, physic, chem and biology and u can see better which field of work might interest u. I would suggest by going that way. Good luck
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On February 02 2013 15:14 M-buster wrote: it's hard giving advice to someone in such a situation. you are very privileged in many ways, but are right to be disappointed since you are not where you should have been had you done what you had to way back when. it seems as if you feel like you are too smart and too good to be at your present situation, and it's probably true. 12 years is a long time, and that is if you even reach your goal. what if you quit six years in, how would you feel then? what if you become a doctor and it itsn't quite what you thought it'd be? to me it seems like you are right in questioning where your life is going, but are not ready to make a decision on what to do with it just yet. give it some time, think about what it really is that you want, what makes you happy about being a doctor, about yourself and you might discover some other area in which you could flourish. Life can surprise you when you least expect it. best of luck. Thanks. But yeah as much as I shouldn't make quick decisions that may turn out to be dumb, if I wait too much longer, I may end up digging myself even deeper in this hole. Maybe I'd be better off accepting this mess rather than trying something else, potentially failing and then I'd have to have to accept an even bigger mess -_-. Admittedly I'm not exactly confident in my ability to pull off med school. I think I CAN... I don't know if I would. I obviously have a tested and true history of under-performing.
On February 02 2013 15:25 Darkren wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 14:58 Djzapz wrote:On February 02 2013 14:41 WarSame wrote:Djzapz, I've talked to you on the forums a few times(most noticeably on the Quebec threads) and you were always an educating, pleasurable person to talk to. You've got at least that going for you, and likely much more you don't fully weight. While it does suck to be 23 and have a degree in something you don't think will find you employment and you will enjoy, you are 23. Keep that in mind - you are 5 years out of high school. It is entirely possible to start another career path from now on. For example, depending on your school, engineering degrees don't require super high admission averages and yield high paying jobs(on the flip side they are a lot of work). Your situation is not entirely hopeless - but it is an uphill climb. You dug yourself into a hole through your earlier actions, and now you have to dig yourself back out. You can do it, but it'll require you to care and devote yourself to it. And if you don't devote yourself to turning your life around then you'll become another one of those uninteresting people doing uninteresting things wasting your life away. And no one will care except you. To be honest, it seems like you are going through a period of depression, maybe stemming from your breakup. The same thing happened to me earlier in the year. Things fell through with a girl, bad thought cycle occurred, had serious doubts about what I was doing, etc. If you feel it may be depression try breaking it ASAP. Here is some advice. The key points are get outside and get more exercise. Thank you, I'm glad you like my posting. I do tend to get overzealous sometimes, I hope you didn't see too much of my bad side =P. And yeah I need to go outside but it's so f'ing cold =_= On February 02 2013 14:50 Darkren wrote:On February 02 2013 14:43 Djzapz wrote:On February 02 2013 14:24 Daray wrote:Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. I'm pretty sure that's like 99% of people right there. Most people aren't doing what they "really" want to do or atleast they don't think they're living an interesting life. I'd settle with being at least mostly comfortable with what I do. Reading myself, I come off as condescending to people who have certain types of jobs, but I know there are janitors out there who have more heart than I do and are happier than I ever will be. On February 02 2013 14:25 Rollin wrote: Here in Australia the content of your degree doesn't matter so much as having the degree. My father's friend is an engineer with a bachelor of agricultural science or something, that just has been working in the engineering field so long that that's all that matters. If he didn't have that bachelor's it would be pretty hard to have gotten into the field though. I'm not sure how useful a masters would be though, but aren't they normally like only 2-3 years anyway?
It seems to me that you're just suffering from excessive sadness (from the breakup), or perhaps longterm depression, in which case even if you were at med-school you'd feel shit too. Part of life is realizing that everyone has a role to play, a doctor isn't all that more important than any other profession, unless you have a huge shortage of doctors or something in your country, to fill a dire need. I think if you were in med school at this time you'd be having doubts about completing another 5 years or whatever to do be stuck in a narrow, taxing field for the rest of your life (or basically having wasted the whole of your life doing med-school).
If you are [actually clinically] depressed though, there's nothing anyone can say to fix it, you'll have to wait for it to pass or take action against it, coming from someone with depression. I've felt like this before the breakup as well, it comes and goes. I've been sad in general for a while, generally I just don't think about it... but I don't know that it's depression, I don't think so. Anyway I dunno so I can't really talk about it. As for the doctor thing, it's just that I personally look up to them. On February 02 2013 14:36 Darkren wrote:On February 02 2013 13:03 Djzapz wrote: I typically start writing these blogs when I get bored/sad and feel the need to talk to someone without directly bothering anyone that I know. It leads to me writing my life story which can get quite extensive, but this time I'll do my best to be concise and I'll leave a lot of things out. Here goes. [Note: Sorry, it turned out messy]
On dec 23rd last year I got dumped by my gf of 7 years, technically we had been engaged for the previous 3 years or so. I didn't take it so well, and unfortunately these kinds of events have a tendency of putting things into perspective. Now, I realize that I am disappointed in myself, and I ought to be...
For reference, I'm 23 now. Anywho, when I was a kid, I was pretty great. The most notable thing is, I was happy. Probably because I felt like I had something to look forward to. I was told that I could accomplish great things (lol ikr!). When teachers did their orientation things I would say that I hoped to be a "scientist" which is funny in retrospect but whatever, it was cute I'm sure. However a series of events, some of which I'll probably never know about, led to me progressively lowering the bar all the way down to where I am now.
I assume this is common, but when I was about 11-12, I stopped caring about my grades, and although I was consistently miles above the class averages, I was no where in the elite which you need to be in to even hope to have the grades for med school. Let's say I was a B+ student, miles above a C- average. It obviously put me in the shadow of A+ students.
To make a long story short, when I was 14, one year of bad grades in math made me branch off in the wrong direction, and while I could have taken the additional class to catch up, I didn't have the drive, and I really wish I had had the maturity to go for it instead of aimlessly fucking around for years. That bad grade in math is the tangible tipping point of where my desire to go to med school went from "it'll be tough" to "fuck it I can't do it". I was lazy, I still am. It's because I'm not looking forward to anything anymore, I've given up.
Now like I said before, I'm 23, and I've been going in the wrong direction for 6 years. I've blown my way through a bachelor in political science and I'm currently working my way through a masters. I used to be at least a little bit proud of it but now I realize that it's dumb and useless. Why did I do this?
I feel like I'm checkmated, I really do. Some of my buddies tell me that I should "just fucking do it"' jump ship 1 year before getting my masters and try to work toward med school. However, the system is such that the B/B+ average that I had when I was 18ish still makes me look bad, so I likely would have to jump through hoops to get admitted to med school - we're potentially talking about needing an entire bachelor in something "related to medicine" like pharmacy for instance. Overall, it could take 13-15 years instead of the typical 10-12. I'd almost be 40. On top of that, I'm afraid I've racked too many bad habits. Maybe I wouldn't even pull it off.
I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.
And for the longest time, I was almost proud to qualify myself as an avid gamer. It was my identity and there was nothing wrong with being passionate about something - right? Meanwhile, real life was rotting away. A 23 year old poli sci bachelor wearing his team dignitas jersey, ranting on forums about how SC2 isn't good enough for me... Fucking pathetic. And why was I so proud to be a gamer? Looking back, at least for me, it was clearly a weakness... I wasn't good enough to deal with my gaming addiction, and never bothered to put the necessary efforts into anything. And today I don't feel like I've earned anything. I got my bachelor while slacking off, I'll get my masters while slacking off. Then what?
Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. Years later I'll die a nobody. I'm tearing up a little writing this here. And to think I''m an arrogant megalomaniac most of the time... I am a student of 21 who just started university in biophysics and i must say u have a very weird vision of the world. So either u go to med school and succed in one of the hardest life unimaginable (from your point of view) or end up failing and doing political science ( nothing against u guys i have alot of friends in that sector) how do u link the two. The goal of studies is to do something u like, not to take the hardest thing just because it is well seen by the society to be a doctor. There exist alot of jobs all inbetween, alot of people can make a difference in the world beside doctors. Abandoning at 23 because u dont feel like doing is just a stupid thing to do ( and u know it!!!), maybe working on that arrogant megalomaniac thing might help u, meeting people and seeing what everyone is doing is an eye opener. If u feel school is not for u and have to find your way in life, u could volunter around the world for the red cross or other things for charity and all the people who suffer around this world. I would like to go to med school because I have a lot of admiration for doctors and I can see myself actually feeling good about what I'm doing if I were a doctor. I wouldn't do it BECAUSE it hard, I would do it because I would like to do that - and it happens to be a difficult domain to get into. U still haven't answered any of the points i bring up, there are alot of jobs that u could still get into and enjoy, (like how do u even know that u would like being a doctor, do you know what they do in first they a learn all the veins and bones in the body for a year), if u want it that badly that u cant see yourself in anything else, then that is enough motivation to go through with it. I haven't really been able to think of many jobs that I'd like to do, frankly. It's not that I haven't thought about it either, I have - extensively. Nothing interests me very much. As for if I absolutely know that I would like being a doctor, not at all. I'm sure that job would actually slap me around quite a bit. But there are some elements that work for me - the challenge in general, the complexity and just the possibility to directly make some sort of difference. It's hard to explain but yeah. Look seing as youve majored in political science and that u live in canada ( i also live in quebec), u need ur pure and applied or health science to get into medical schools, i know most big univerities give a program of like 1 year and a half to catch up in all courses in science. from there u will have classes in math, physic, chem and biology and u can see better which field of work might interest u. I would suggest by going that way. Good luck Yeah I suppose unis may have better solutions than going all the way back to cegep. Thanks for the heads up.
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On February 02 2013 15:32 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 15:14 M-buster wrote: it's hard giving advice to someone in such a situation. you are very privileged in many ways, but are right to be disappointed since you are not where you should have been had you done what you had to way back when. it seems as if you feel like you are too smart and too good to be at your present situation, and it's probably true. 12 years is a long time, and that is if you even reach your goal. what if you quit six years in, how would you feel then? what if you become a doctor and it itsn't quite what you thought it'd be? to me it seems like you are right in questioning where your life is going, but are not ready to make a decision on what to do with it just yet. give it some time, think about what it really is that you want, what makes you happy about being a doctor, about yourself and you might discover some other area in which you could flourish. Life can surprise you when you least expect it. best of luck. Thanks. But yeah as much as I shouldn't make quick decisions that may turn out to be dumb, if I wait too much longer, I may end up digging myself even deeper in this hole. Maybe I'd be better off accepting this mess rather than trying something else, potentially failing and then I'd have to have to accept an even bigger mess -_-. Admittedly I'm not exactly confident in my ability to pull off med school. I think I CAN... I don't know if I would. I obviously have a tested and true history of under-performing. Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 15:25 Darkren wrote:On February 02 2013 14:58 Djzapz wrote:On February 02 2013 14:41 WarSame wrote:Djzapz, I've talked to you on the forums a few times(most noticeably on the Quebec threads) and you were always an educating, pleasurable person to talk to. You've got at least that going for you, and likely much more you don't fully weight. While it does suck to be 23 and have a degree in something you don't think will find you employment and you will enjoy, you are 23. Keep that in mind - you are 5 years out of high school. It is entirely possible to start another career path from now on. For example, depending on your school, engineering degrees don't require super high admission averages and yield high paying jobs(on the flip side they are a lot of work). Your situation is not entirely hopeless - but it is an uphill climb. You dug yourself into a hole through your earlier actions, and now you have to dig yourself back out. You can do it, but it'll require you to care and devote yourself to it. And if you don't devote yourself to turning your life around then you'll become another one of those uninteresting people doing uninteresting things wasting your life away. And no one will care except you. To be honest, it seems like you are going through a period of depression, maybe stemming from your breakup. The same thing happened to me earlier in the year. Things fell through with a girl, bad thought cycle occurred, had serious doubts about what I was doing, etc. If you feel it may be depression try breaking it ASAP. Here is some advice. The key points are get outside and get more exercise. Thank you, I'm glad you like my posting. I do tend to get overzealous sometimes, I hope you didn't see too much of my bad side =P. And yeah I need to go outside but it's so f'ing cold =_= On February 02 2013 14:50 Darkren wrote:On February 02 2013 14:43 Djzapz wrote:On February 02 2013 14:24 Daray wrote:Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. I'm pretty sure that's like 99% of people right there. Most people aren't doing what they "really" want to do or atleast they don't think they're living an interesting life. I'd settle with being at least mostly comfortable with what I do. Reading myself, I come off as condescending to people who have certain types of jobs, but I know there are janitors out there who have more heart than I do and are happier than I ever will be. On February 02 2013 14:25 Rollin wrote: Here in Australia the content of your degree doesn't matter so much as having the degree. My father's friend is an engineer with a bachelor of agricultural science or something, that just has been working in the engineering field so long that that's all that matters. If he didn't have that bachelor's it would be pretty hard to have gotten into the field though. I'm not sure how useful a masters would be though, but aren't they normally like only 2-3 years anyway?
It seems to me that you're just suffering from excessive sadness (from the breakup), or perhaps longterm depression, in which case even if you were at med-school you'd feel shit too. Part of life is realizing that everyone has a role to play, a doctor isn't all that more important than any other profession, unless you have a huge shortage of doctors or something in your country, to fill a dire need. I think if you were in med school at this time you'd be having doubts about completing another 5 years or whatever to do be stuck in a narrow, taxing field for the rest of your life (or basically having wasted the whole of your life doing med-school).
If you are [actually clinically] depressed though, there's nothing anyone can say to fix it, you'll have to wait for it to pass or take action against it, coming from someone with depression. I've felt like this before the breakup as well, it comes and goes. I've been sad in general for a while, generally I just don't think about it... but I don't know that it's depression, I don't think so. Anyway I dunno so I can't really talk about it. As for the doctor thing, it's just that I personally look up to them. On February 02 2013 14:36 Darkren wrote:On February 02 2013 13:03 Djzapz wrote: I typically start writing these blogs when I get bored/sad and feel the need to talk to someone without directly bothering anyone that I know. It leads to me writing my life story which can get quite extensive, but this time I'll do my best to be concise and I'll leave a lot of things out. Here goes. [Note: Sorry, it turned out messy]
On dec 23rd last year I got dumped by my gf of 7 years, technically we had been engaged for the previous 3 years or so. I didn't take it so well, and unfortunately these kinds of events have a tendency of putting things into perspective. Now, I realize that I am disappointed in myself, and I ought to be...
For reference, I'm 23 now. Anywho, when I was a kid, I was pretty great. The most notable thing is, I was happy. Probably because I felt like I had something to look forward to. I was told that I could accomplish great things (lol ikr!). When teachers did their orientation things I would say that I hoped to be a "scientist" which is funny in retrospect but whatever, it was cute I'm sure. However a series of events, some of which I'll probably never know about, led to me progressively lowering the bar all the way down to where I am now.
I assume this is common, but when I was about 11-12, I stopped caring about my grades, and although I was consistently miles above the class averages, I was no where in the elite which you need to be in to even hope to have the grades for med school. Let's say I was a B+ student, miles above a C- average. It obviously put me in the shadow of A+ students.
To make a long story short, when I was 14, one year of bad grades in math made me branch off in the wrong direction, and while I could have taken the additional class to catch up, I didn't have the drive, and I really wish I had had the maturity to go for it instead of aimlessly fucking around for years. That bad grade in math is the tangible tipping point of where my desire to go to med school went from "it'll be tough" to "fuck it I can't do it". I was lazy, I still am. It's because I'm not looking forward to anything anymore, I've given up.
Now like I said before, I'm 23, and I've been going in the wrong direction for 6 years. I've blown my way through a bachelor in political science and I'm currently working my way through a masters. I used to be at least a little bit proud of it but now I realize that it's dumb and useless. Why did I do this?
I feel like I'm checkmated, I really do. Some of my buddies tell me that I should "just fucking do it"' jump ship 1 year before getting my masters and try to work toward med school. However, the system is such that the B/B+ average that I had when I was 18ish still makes me look bad, so I likely would have to jump through hoops to get admitted to med school - we're potentially talking about needing an entire bachelor in something "related to medicine" like pharmacy for instance. Overall, it could take 13-15 years instead of the typical 10-12. I'd almost be 40. On top of that, I'm afraid I've racked too many bad habits. Maybe I wouldn't even pull it off.
I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.
And for the longest time, I was almost proud to qualify myself as an avid gamer. It was my identity and there was nothing wrong with being passionate about something - right? Meanwhile, real life was rotting away. A 23 year old poli sci bachelor wearing his team dignitas jersey, ranting on forums about how SC2 isn't good enough for me... Fucking pathetic. And why was I so proud to be a gamer? Looking back, at least for me, it was clearly a weakness... I wasn't good enough to deal with my gaming addiction, and never bothered to put the necessary efforts into anything. And today I don't feel like I've earned anything. I got my bachelor while slacking off, I'll get my masters while slacking off. Then what?
Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. Years later I'll die a nobody. I'm tearing up a little writing this here. And to think I''m an arrogant megalomaniac most of the time... I am a student of 21 who just started university in biophysics and i must say u have a very weird vision of the world. So either u go to med school and succed in one of the hardest life unimaginable (from your point of view) or end up failing and doing political science ( nothing against u guys i have alot of friends in that sector) how do u link the two. The goal of studies is to do something u like, not to take the hardest thing just because it is well seen by the society to be a doctor. There exist alot of jobs all inbetween, alot of people can make a difference in the world beside doctors. Abandoning at 23 because u dont feel like doing is just a stupid thing to do ( and u know it!!!), maybe working on that arrogant megalomaniac thing might help u, meeting people and seeing what everyone is doing is an eye opener. If u feel school is not for u and have to find your way in life, u could volunter around the world for the red cross or other things for charity and all the people who suffer around this world. I would like to go to med school because I have a lot of admiration for doctors and I can see myself actually feeling good about what I'm doing if I were a doctor. I wouldn't do it BECAUSE it hard, I would do it because I would like to do that - and it happens to be a difficult domain to get into. U still haven't answered any of the points i bring up, there are alot of jobs that u could still get into and enjoy, (like how do u even know that u would like being a doctor, do you know what they do in first they a learn all the veins and bones in the body for a year), if u want it that badly that u cant see yourself in anything else, then that is enough motivation to go through with it. I haven't really been able to think of many jobs that I'd like to do, frankly. It's not that I haven't thought about it either, I have - extensively. Nothing interests me very much. As for if I absolutely know that I would like being a doctor, not at all. I'm sure that job would actually slap me around quite a bit. But there are some elements that work for me - the challenge in general, the complexity and just the possibility to directly make some sort of difference. It's hard to explain but yeah. Look seing as youve majored in political science and that u live in canada ( i also live in quebec), u need ur pure and applied or health science to get into medical schools, i know most big univerities give a program of like 1 year and a half to catch up in all courses in science. from there u will have classes in math, physic, chem and biology and u can see better which field of work might interest u. I would suggest by going that way. Good luck Yeah I suppose unis may have better solutions than going all the way back to cegep. Thanks for the heads up.
That what im telling u, u dont have to do the cegep again, UQAM, Concordia and UDM all give a program that is the eq of cegep pure and applied science but in one year, its condense but u should be able to survive through, just dont be lazy in biology
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Regarding the gaming addiction, at least you didn't want to get addicted like me, I hoped for years that I would get addicted to games so that I'd never have to stop playing, was I silly.
Anyhow, best of luck to you in future with everything!
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Listen. I'm also 23. I havent finished a single undergrad (for a variety of reasons). If you have a passion for pre med, go for it. Especially if you think youre smart enough. 23 is young these days. I posted a thread worrying about this stuff and honestly it helped me realize that things will be ok. I want you to know that things will be ok as well. I took all study halls in highschool during my optional courses. Despite this, I have a 3.8 average in college (which I had to work for, since I didnt take college super serious earlier) and so far a 4.0 at my current university. You can do this. I stopped math super early, but that doesnt mean you cant catch up. Don't make excuses. I know that you can do at least as well as I can. You just need to focus on what you actually want! Math is not that bad! It just seems that way! I hope that you succeed in whatever you do! Good Luck!
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I think you are depressed and that's why it's so gloomy, first of all you are 23, just finish your Masters and do what planned to do oringinally.
I'll also give you some alternative views on lifestyles. There is a friend of mine, he basically spent his entire life for success and earned two masters in egineering by the time he was 21, started his first company at 22 and made his first million at 25. He hated his life. The reason for this, according to him was that he feelt empty and that there was no real purpose to what he was doing. His life consists of boardmeetings and constant studys and it feelt like he had no real "life" and that he was trapped in the hamster wheel of success. He killed himself 3 years ago leaving a note saying that he really didn't achieve anything with his life and that it was empty and he did not know how to fix it.
Being sucessfulll isn't always that great as people make it out to be.
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Man, I don't have any advice or perspective to give you (in any event, it seems like you kind of know where you are right now as well as where you've been, if not where you want to go), but I've seen you around and you seem like a really great person. I can just wish you the best of luck, and once again give the tired-but-oh-so-important statement to do what you love if at all possible. Don't take up a lifestyle you hate. Ultimately, the most important thing is to be happy. It doesn't mean you have to love your job, but don't do anything you'll loathe.
Also Integra that is a dark, dark story...wow :X
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You cannot waste your lifetime. Everything you do provides you with more experience. You live, no matter what you do. There is no wasted lifetime. You only waste time towards reaching a specific goal and goals are replacable, self-imposed steps to make you feel like you have a meaning, but it is never too late to change, never too late to change your goals.
As long as you don't ruin your body or your mind, the rest is not really that important.
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It doesn't matter how useless your degree is, it'll still allow you to teach English in a foreign country (e.g. Korea). Enjoy yourself, save some money and get some perspective.
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No worries man, there are so many people that take a detour to what they want to do. I'm a med student myself and have almost 4 years study delays. There's a fellow student here that started med school when he was 30 years old. Sometimes I worry about my delays. But I will get there in the end, it just takes a little longer. It may take some time but I will get there. And so will you.
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It's never too late man. 23 is not that far in life, and you certainly didn't waste all of it. I mean how many people can really say that they lived their life with 100% productivity? Focus on the things you can control instead of lamenting what you did in the past. Everybody makes wrong turns in their life here and there.
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1. finish your masters 2. start going to the gym 3. once you finish your masters, go travel
don't waste another 10 years in uni. just go out and do something. always be positive
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To state it bluntly: you're most likely still feeling like shit because you were dumped.
When you're down emotionally, it's easy to see the worst aspects in everything and it seems like nothing in your life is good or makes sense. Give yourself the time to get over it, and meanwhile continue doing what you did before to the best of your ability. Chances are, your decision to start doing that wasn't all that idiotic (most of the time, one doesn't make bad decisions, given the available information).
The (sad?) truth is, your life is of course drastically influenced by what you did ten, five or two years ago and now you have exactly one chance of making the best of it, and making your peace with the choices you made in the past. I suggest reading Ken Grimwood's "Replay" in that context, it moved me quite deeply and made me realize a couple of things about my own life.
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Im 23 as well.. almost 2 years ago my girl dumped me too. We dated for 5 years. It was a very difficult time to get over. But let me tell you.. there is hope, you will feel better. Time heals everything. Start going to the gym, get into a routine. Going to the gym will make you feel better about your self cause you will get stronger and your body will look good. Who cares if you failed or had low grades. Sign up for a program something you like doing, and start doing it. Start to do it is the key. And when you start doing it you will start to realize girls are a headache and you don't need a serious relationship until you build your life. Go out there and fuck some random bitches and have fun. Go out with your boys and go experience stuff that you haven't because you late teens were preoccupied with unnecessary bullshit (girlfriend). You will soon realize that life is awesome and you are awesome. Thats pretty much were i am. The past 2 years i started going to the gym, went back to university (almost done my degree), got back into playing competitive soccer, had a lot of fun with girls. I've learned so much about my self and what has to offer it is just amazing. Don't give up, you can do it.
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Every gift in life that's worth having is wrapped in layers of temporary pain. You cannot become a doctor without putting in the work. You cannot find the girl of your dreams and be happy without putting in the work. This is your life, if you want to be something grab your fucking nuts and be it. Don't make excuses for anything, this is life, it's never gonna be a clear cut moment where you're like "oh well, I guess this is the perfect time to improve myself and strive for my dreams". It begins when you put one foot in front of the other. Bet on yourself, you can never lose when you bet on yourself.
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On February 02 2013 14:43 Djzapz wrote: I would like to go to med school because I have a lot of admiration for doctors and I can see myself actually feeling good about what I'm doing if I were a doctor. I wouldn't do it BECAUSE it hard, I would do it because I would like to do that - and it happens to be a difficult domain to get into. Someone has to tell you: You're lying to yourself. You don't want to go to medschool. You want to be able to say "I would have gone to medschool if this or that would have been different" to feel better about yourself.
You don't sound stupid from what I'm reading here. You just sound lazy as fuck. Get your shit together.
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Thanks everyone =)
On February 02 2013 18:02 Kuni wrote: You cannot waste your lifetime. Everything you do provides you with more experience. You live, no matter what you do. There is no wasted lifetime. You only waste time towards reaching a specific goal and goals are replacable, self-imposed steps to make you feel like you have a meaning, but it is never too late to change, never too late to change your goals.
As long as you don't ruin your body or your mind, the rest is not really that important. I think you make an interesting point and it summarizes what many people have been saying in a rather eloquent way. The problem though is a harsh reality - I'll need to start working sooner or later. If I've been taught anything by my grandparents, it's that you have to "invest in your old days".
On February 02 2013 21:43 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 14:43 Djzapz wrote: I would like to go to med school because I have a lot of admiration for doctors and I can see myself actually feeling good about what I'm doing if I were a doctor. I wouldn't do it BECAUSE it hard, I would do it because I would like to do that - and it happens to be a difficult domain to get into. Someone has to tell you: You're lying to yourself. You don't want to go to medschool. You want to be able to say "I would have gone to medschool if this or that would have been different" to feel better about yourself. You don't sound stupid from what I'm reading here. You just sound lazy as fuck. Get your shit together. (<3) I'm not saying I would have gone to med school if things had been different, I'm saying I would have gone to med school if I had been BETTER. I'm not complaining about circumstances - I'm talking about my own failures. But you're still right about the second part. Cheers. + Show Spoiler +
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You should look into going into nursing (the 4 year program). I'm currently 20 and will be 21 when I graduate and will be making decent bucks coming out of university. There are some universities in Ontario that offer the 4 year R.N program in a fast-track version that crams it all into 2 years so you can save your years (the only requirements are that you have 2 years of university experience and a couple of courses).
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Just because you didn't do good enough to achieve something doesn't mean that you are not good enough to achieve something.
Also damn, your desk is pretty cleaned up for a lazy person.
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On February 02 2013 23:28 r.Evo wrote: Just because you didn't do good enough to achieve something doesn't mean that you are not good enough to achieve something.
Also damn, your desk is pretty cleaned up for a lazy person. No it's messy as hell, you just don't see it, there's usually just one clean spot in front of me to put a book there. Typical desk day: (add a few beers at night). + Show Spoiler +
That said I'm not saying I can't do good enough... but now I'm mourning those 6 years, and I wish I had been better in the first place. And now if I do the switch I may screw myself further. There are financial elements to consider for instance...
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... It looks better than mine and I cleaned up yesterday. FML.
Mourning is fine. Wishing that things had been better is fine, too. It's when you dwell too much over things that are already done that it effects your future that it becomes an issue.
Loved ones die, we miss opportunities, we aren't the best ourselves that we could have been. That's part of life and you're aware of that. In the end what really counts is with which way you can become the most happy with yourself and your life - while one year to finish your master doesn't sound like a too long time, if it's too long for you and you'd rather work towards something else starting tomorrow is entirely your choice. No one can make that choice for you.
However, also no one made the choice for you that you have to live a horrible life with a horrible job when you're done. That shit is in your head, no where else. If you want to work towards a different career, you can do so. You might have to work at the same time or you might have overcome some additional burdens but it's up to you. Maybe, just maybe, you might also find a great job around great people with your current path. You won't find out until you give it a try. And yes, that includes stuff like internships.
Besides that it's not that uncommon (at least over here) to see people at 40+ in med schools. You're young, stop sounding like my own grandfather. =P
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On February 02 2013 20:03 eSen1a wrote: 1. finish your masters 2. start going to the gym 3. once you finish your masters, go travel
don't waste another 10 years in uni. just go out and do something. always be positive
This is a great advice. There is so many people unhappy in their jobs and normal lives but they do it just to get to travel somewhere for a brief moment.
When i read your blog Djzapz, i can relate somewhat. I was lazy in school, didn't care what i was doing so i rather played games with my friends than study. Awful grades (especially math and physics) every year till i finished grammar school. Got into a vocational school with no effort simply because they spots left. I didn't mind, at least i got into somewhere. Well, in the end i graduated with decent grades but i really don't want to continue in the field because it was boring and not for me.
While my situation is easy, i'm few years younger than you are, education is free where i live, i still am lost and sad that i didn't care about my grades. Lots of schools that i might be interested in, i wouldn't have chance. At least not just yet.
Back to the travelling. I've always loved it and if this whole situation turns out the way i'm afraid, that i will end up in a job that i don't like to do, i will use my time travelling even harder than i have planned.
Good luck man. I hope you find the right way!
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You are overreacting. Maybe TL showcases a demographic which gives a skewed perspective, but almost everyone has a crisis like this sometime in their young adult life. Most people do it when they are older than 23. I was 25.
Some of your realizations are just part of life. Your dreams will not pan out the way you thought or hoped when you were 14. You will probably make less money, and your job will probably not be as exciting. These issues aren't unique to you, and everyone deals with them as they become an adult.
Main point: buck up, it ain't so bad. You'll enjoy your 20's more with a positive attitude.
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I can relate to a fair bit of this. I would argue you think too much and do too little. That sounds harsh, but I have the same problem. I spend too much time on the computer ranting via the Internet and not nearly enough time seeing my dreams reach fruition.
Time is your most valuable resource. I'm sincerely glad that you've now realized that. But it's time to plan out your goals, learn what you need to do to see them happen, buck up, and just go do it. I don't have a clue as to what that is (perhaps it's med. school like you mention; perhaps it's poli. sci. like you've studied for; perhaps it's something else entirely), but you need to narrow in on whatever good goal you believe is for you and just go do it. May there be a positive desperation with which you work and act, and may you grow a motivation and mentality that not only says "No" to the distractions that will impede your progress to your goals, but replaces each of them with a "Yes" towards something else that does advance you. A "No" is not enough; a "Yes" must be given. And when you find what to say "Yes" to, work at it tirelessly till you reach it.
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As others have pointed out, you sound like you are still reeling from breaking up with your gf, which is totally reasonable. Things will improve.
Do not quit your masters. You may regret quitting it later, the exact same way you are regretting neglecting your earlier schooling. IMO The only circumstance you should quit is if you have something awesome (preferably enjoyable and long-term) already lined up to do instead.
Also agree with the others that you should add some more non-school activities to your life. Exercise is indeed a really good one. Another thing you can try is volunteering: since you say you want to be a doctor, go hunt down a hospital and look into volunteering there. This will allow you to meet new people, do something you care about, and have something else to do that isn't your master's degree. If the thought of doing this doesn't at least mildly interest you, I'm going to go with the guy upthread and say you don't really want to be a doctor.
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Pre-med is a science related field of study that includes fields of study that can be directly related to the human body, thus are desired by medical schools for acceptance into their programs. A degree in biology (which is a pre-med) degree can be used to become a scientist and not a doctor. BS Biology -> MS Biology (specialized field) -> PhD Biology (even more specialized field) -> Scientist If you get a pharmacy bachelors degree, you might as well get your entire Pharmacy degree (they are "scientists" of a sort, and make a lot of money).
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On February 03 2013 04:28 metbull wrote: Pre-med is a science related field of study that includes fields of study that can be directly related to the human body, thus are desired by medical schools for acceptance into their programs. A degree in biology (which is a pre-med) degree can be used to become a scientist and not a doctor. BS Biology -> MS Biology (specialized field) -> PhD Biology (even more specialized field) -> Scientist If you get a pharmacy bachelors degree, you might as well get your entire Pharmacy degree (they are "scientists" of a sort, and make a lot of money).
gl Well that whole "scientist" phase was when I was a kid. I'm not really interested in that anymore, not as a career. As a kid I probably thought it was cool because uh, mixing colored liquids and explosions? I dunno. I like learning about science though. Biology interests me, but not to the point where I'd want to do research in that field for a living.
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On February 02 2013 13:03 Djzapz wrote: I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.
a similar thing happened to me
don't be stupid and blow everything out of proportion
you're very young. I recommend telling the world to go fuck itself for a little while while you think about things.
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most med schools in canada only require a fraction of an undergrad to be relevant.
I think you need Bio/Math/Chem/Physics year 1+2 and maybe a stats class depending where you want to go.
You could make up those classes in 1 year if you were motivated enough without much trouble.
edit: and if youre doing your masters, I assume you have math + stats done already. Not that far off.
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On February 03 2013 12:51 Masq wrote: most med schools in canada only require a fraction of an undergrad to be relevant.
I think you need Bio/Math/Chem/Physics year 1+2 and maybe a stats class depending where you want to go.
You could make up those classes in 1 year if you were motivated enough without much trouble.
edit: and if youre doing your masters, I assume you have math + stats done already. Not that far off. I started gathering up info for how to go about it but Quebec's education system is very different from the rest of Canada. I've done linear algebra, calculus 1 and 2 and a stats class, but it was all in the social sciences stuff, so they're dumbed down in comparison to the science maths. At this point though I can handle maths/stats just fine - it still would suck to have to do it all over again though.
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reading this made me realize how lost i am in my own life and how futile this pathetic existence is.
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On February 04 2013 03:05 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote: reading this made me realize how lost i am in my own life and how futile this pathetic existence is. Truly that's not what I was going for =P
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Maybe not but your life and details In blog are eerily similar to mine so it got me thinking
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On February 03 2013 13:33 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 12:51 Masq wrote: most med schools in canada only require a fraction of an undergrad to be relevant.
I think you need Bio/Math/Chem/Physics year 1+2 and maybe a stats class depending where you want to go.
You could make up those classes in 1 year if you were motivated enough without much trouble.
edit: and if youre doing your masters, I assume you have math + stats done already. Not that far off. I started gathering up info for how to go about it but Quebec's education system is very different from the rest of Canada. I've done linear algebra, calculus 1 and 2 and a stats class, but it was all in the social sciences stuff, so they're dumbed down in comparison to the science maths. At this point though I can handle maths/stats just fine - it still would suck to have to do it all over again though.
U don't really need any math if ur going into premed no?
Like how well do you remember calc 2 (integrals) and linear algebra (matrice + complex numbers)
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On February 04 2013 07:13 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote: Maybe not but your life and details In blog are eerily similar to mine so it got me thinking Many people have said that. Most say it's not so bad 
On February 04 2013 09:59 Darkren wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 13:33 Djzapz wrote:On February 03 2013 12:51 Masq wrote: most med schools in canada only require a fraction of an undergrad to be relevant.
I think you need Bio/Math/Chem/Physics year 1+2 and maybe a stats class depending where you want to go.
You could make up those classes in 1 year if you were motivated enough without much trouble.
edit: and if youre doing your masters, I assume you have math + stats done already. Not that far off. I started gathering up info for how to go about it but Quebec's education system is very different from the rest of Canada. I've done linear algebra, calculus 1 and 2 and a stats class, but it was all in the social sciences stuff, so they're dumbed down in comparison to the science maths. At this point though I can handle maths/stats just fine - it still would suck to have to do it all over again though. U don't really need any math if ur going into premed no? Like how well do you remember calc 2 (integrals) and linear algebra (matrice + complex numbers) You need math as part of the science curriculum. As for whether I remember it, I learned the stuff in 2010-2011, so no - but I know it would come back to me quickly if I had to take it again.
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I was absolutely in love with Brood War during my high school years. I didn't care about school in the slightest and scraped by with C's. I used to skip school to play it all day on iccup, watch vods, or dick around on teamliquid. I'd stay up all night to watch the OSL/MSL/proleague. I seriously wanted to be a pro gamer and my big plan was to get good for StarCraft 2 (I always knew they'd release it eventually).
Then I realized what a big waste of time it was. This was in my last year, grade 12. So I stopped slacking and got all Bs/As and managed to go to a local college with plans to transfer to a university when I decided what to really do. Fell in love with mathematics and transferred to a really good university for an undergraduate in pure mathematics. I'm now in my 3rd/4th (mostly third but I'm taking more 4th year classes right now) and am planning to either go to graduate school for masters/PhD or become an actuary.
I can't really pinpoint a specific event that changed my mind. It was a combination of having good teachers in my final year and becoming more interested in the world around me. I'm glad it happened though. It has significantly changed my life for the better. I can't imagine what would have happened if I continued on my path. I'd either end up walking away from high school with a terrible GPA and retail prospects or even becoming a pro gamer (and eventually retail since these careers don't last long).
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On February 02 2013 20:08 DanielHetberg wrote: I suggest reading Ken Grimwood's "Replay" in that context, it moved me quite deeply and made me realize a couple of things about my own life. This reminds me of the film "The Girl who leapt through time". I didn't think of the movie's theme then, but I think it's just trying to say that given the option to go back in time, a different decision doesn't necessarily make one's life better.
I am still reading the comments of this blog.
To OP. I know someone who loved what he does and graduated with a degree in art has gone back to school to get another degree in graphic design. He loves this too. Which is more than I can say about my life right now.
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This is completely a guess, but I don't think your issues stem from your education path. I bet it goes deeper than that, and if you were in pre-med or med school right now, it wouldn't fix how you feel about your interests or self-value.
Why did you go into poli-sci and why do you think you want to go into medicine? Because you set high ambitions for yourself doesn't sound like a great reason. I think you can meet that satisfaction of helping people and meet high ambitions in almost any industry you choose, as long as you actually go for it. If there's something about helping sick people you like, you can always get a Masters in health policy or management or just a general public policy Masters. There's lots of opportunities right now for health related policy & management.
The good news is that you're young, you're not nearly as deep as you think you are, lots of people are similarly confused and sad (but don't publicly admit it) and we live in societies that are very accepting of second, third and fourth chances. I think you should figure out what's going on inside, while also figuring out what you want to do. Not just what title you want to have, but what you like about those titles, because you've probably got several opportunities to reach them that don't seem obvious yet.
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And here I thought you had actually screwed up your life. But in fact, you're young and will soon be getting a masters degree. You have no conception of what failure is, bud.
And to think, you probably only dreamed of med school because of the money.
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On February 04 2013 15:31 Jibba wrote: This is completely a guess, but I don't think your issues stem from your education path. I bet it goes deeper than that, and if you were in pre-med or med school right now, it wouldn't fix how you feel about your interests or self-value.
Why did you go into poli-sci and why do you think you want to go into medicine? Because you set high ambitions for yourself doesn't sound like a great reason. I think you can meet that satisfaction of helping people and meet high ambitions in almost any industry you choose, as long as you actually go for it. If there's something about helping sick people you like, you can always get a Masters in health policy or management or just a general public policy Masters. There's lots of opportunities right now for health related policy & management.
The good news is that you're young, you're not nearly as deep as you think you are, lots of people are similarly confused and sad (but don't publicly admit it) and we live in societies that are very accepting of second, third and fourth chances. I think you should figure out what's going on inside, while also figuring out what you want to do. Not just what title you want to have, but what you like about those titles, because you've probably got several opportunities to reach them that don't seem obvious yet. I understand why you'd think that but I think you're wrong. I went into poli sci because I'm interested in knowing this stuff, but the thought of making a career out of it is sickening. I'm already bored with it - I've got some knowledge about politics now, and all the classes I take at this point are so specific that it's uninteresting.
I won't get into it because I'm in a class right now and I can't screw around too much, but I want to do med it's the most interesting career path. I didn't take it before because I didn't believe that I had the abilities to pull it off, and it made me extremely sad.
On February 05 2013 00:24 Doodsmack wrote: And here I thought you had actually screwed up your life. But in fact, you're young and will soon be getting a masters degree. You have no conception of what failure is, bud.
And to think, you probably only dreamed of med school because of the money. For reasons I won't get into, money is essentially not a factor for me. And my conception of failure works for me. I am and have been unhappy about the fact that I haven't done what I would have liked to do. It could be worse, but I'm still very disappointed with myself.
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