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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 05:00:01
February 02 2013 04:03 GMT
#1
I typically start writing these blogs when I get bored/sad and feel the need to talk to someone without directly bothering anyone that I know. It leads to me writing my life story which can get quite extensive, but this time I'll do my best to be concise and I'll leave a lot of things out. Here goes. [Note: Sorry, it turned out messy]

On dec 23rd last year I got dumped by my gf of 7 years, technically we had been engaged for the previous 3 years or so. I didn't take it so well, and unfortunately these kinds of events have a tendency of putting things into perspective. Now, I realize that I am disappointed in myself, and I ought to be...

For reference, I'm 23 now. Anywho, when I was a kid, I was pretty great. The most notable thing is, I was happy. Probably because I felt like I had something to look forward to. I was told that I could accomplish great things (lol ikr!). When teachers did their orientation things I would say that I hoped to be a "scientist" which is funny in retrospect but whatever, it was cute I'm sure. However a series of events, some of which I'll probably never know about, led to me progressively lowering the bar all the way down to where I am now.

I assume this is common, but when I was about 11-12, I stopped caring about my grades, and although I was consistently miles above the class averages, I was no where in the elite which you need to be in to even hope to have the grades for med school. Let's say I was a B+ student, miles above a C- average. It obviously put me in the shadow of A+ students.

To make a long story short, when I was 14, one year of bad grades in math made me branch off in the wrong direction, and while I could have taken the additional class to catch up, I didn't have the drive, and I really wish I had had the maturity to go for it instead of aimlessly fucking around for years. That bad grade in math is the tangible tipping point of where my desire to go to med school went from "it'll be tough" to "fuck it I can't do it". I was lazy, I still am. It's because I'm not looking forward to anything anymore, I've given up.

Now like I said before, I'm 23, and I've been going in the wrong direction for 6 years. I've blown my way through a bachelor in political science and I'm currently working my way through a masters. I used to be at least a little bit proud of it but now I realize that it's dumb and useless. Why did I do this?

I feel like I'm checkmated, I really do. Some of my buddies tell me that I should "just fucking do it"' jump ship 1 year before getting my masters and try to work toward med school. However, the system is such that the B/B+ average that I had when I was 18ish still makes me look bad, so I likely would have to jump through hoops to get admitted to med school - we're potentially talking about needing an entire bachelor in something "related to medicine" like pharmacy for instance. Overall, it could take 13-15 years instead of the typical 10-12. I'd almost be 40. On top of that, I'm afraid I've racked too many bad habits. Maybe I wouldn't even pull it off.

I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.


And for the longest time, I was almost proud to qualify myself as an avid gamer. It was my identity and there was nothing wrong with being passionate about something - right? Meanwhile, real life was rotting away. A 23 year old poli sci bachelor wearing his team dignitas jersey, ranting on forums about how SC2 isn't good enough for me... Fucking pathetic. And why was I so proud to be a gamer? Looking back, at least for me, it was clearly a weakness... I wasn't good enough to deal with my gaming addiction, and never bothered to put the necessary efforts into anything. And today I don't feel like I've earned anything. I got my bachelor while slacking off, I'll get my masters while slacking off. Then what?

Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. Years later I'll die a nobody. I'm tearing up a little writing this here. And to think I''m an arrogant megalomaniac most of the time...

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Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
February 02 2013 04:18 GMT
#2
what kind of jobs can you get in political science? I couldnt imagine committing to a career path and then regretting it so late in the game, but it happens to alot of people.. maybe reading some of their stories will cheer you up/help you decide what to do.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
February 02 2013 04:20 GMT
#3
At least you didn't drop out of high school at 15 with a GPA of 3.87 (on a scale of 4) like I did. I had a plan to do all the remedial classes that I would be required to do since I didn't graduate in 2 semesters (at community college), then get my GED (Which I ended up getting with scores of: 95th percentile math, 97th percentile science, 90th percentile social studies, 76th percentile reading, 66th percentile writing) then off to college at 16. My parents fell threw with funding and then I stopped caring. Now I've been sitting on my ass for 3 years and have came to a conclusion that I was a dumb ass.

Compared to me you have it made.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
February 02 2013 04:33 GMT
#4
Man, I'm currently an engineering student, but from what I see, it doesn't matter as much what degree you have, opposed to having one, which shows you can think. Work had, take initiative, search hard for a job that suits you, and start doing what makes you happy.

Sit down with yourself, look at what you want to change, and what you want to do, and just do it. You need to be able to look at your goals as a source of motivation, if literally nothing in life interests you and you don't care much for anything, your life really lacks meaning. Find meaning for yourself.

Goodluck!
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
February 02 2013 04:33 GMT
#5
On February 02 2013 13:18 Assault_1 wrote:
what kind of jobs can you get in political science? I couldnt imagine committing to a career path and then regretting it so late in the game, but it happens to alot of people.. maybe reading some of their stories will cheer you up/help you decide what to do.

A lot of things, actually. You can work for the government (even the FBI/CIA), work for think-tanks, go into consulting, do political analysis for the military, get a PhD and become a prof, etc. It's not a bad field to go into if you build up your resume along the way and know exactly what you're gunning for. (I have two poli sci friends who are both heading down the analysis/think-tank route, for example, and they started their run for those careers three years ago. It is really a pretty decent field for employment, in my opinion.)

I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis

So do something interesting like, uh, most interesting people? :/ Sorry if I sound harsh, but interesting people aren't "interesting" by default. They're interesting because of their experiences. Sure, you screwed up and have wasted a big chunk of your life, but you should take that as motivation to get it back on-track. (Why do you want to apply to med school anyways ...?)
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 05:08:43
February 02 2013 04:56 GMT
#6
On February 02 2013 13:18 Assault_1 wrote:
what kind of jobs can you get in political science? I couldnt imagine committing to a career path and then regretting it so late in the game, but it happens to alot of people.. maybe reading some of their stories will cheer you up/help you decide what to do.

My specific brand of political science leads to civil service positions and maybe journalism if I were to take a few classes in that direction. I didn't get in political science for a career though but reality is settling in.

On February 02 2013 13:33 babylon wrote:
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On February 02 2013 13:18 Assault_1 wrote:
what kind of jobs can you get in political science? I couldnt imagine committing to a career path and then regretting it so late in the game, but it happens to alot of people.. maybe reading some of their stories will cheer you up/help you decide what to do.

A lot of things, actually. You can work for the government (even the FBI/CIA), work for think-tanks, go into consulting, do political analysis for the military, get a PhD and become a prof, etc. It's not a bad field to go into if you build up your resume along the way and know exactly what you're gunning for. (I have two poli sci friends who are both heading down the analysis/think-tank route, for example, and they started their run for those careers three years ago. It is really a pretty decent field for employment, in my opinion.)

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I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis

So do something interesting like, uh, most interesting people? :/ Sorry if I sound harsh, but interesting people aren't "interesting" by default. They're interesting because of their experiences. Sure, you screwed up and have wasted a big chunk of your life, but you should take that as motivation to get it back on-track. (Why do you want to apply to med school anyways ...?)

I don't have what it takes to be interesting. You mention doing "resume building" and I haven't done anything outside of class. I've specifically avoided internships for that matter, because they take a LOT of time and don't give many credits. I'm more interested in having my degree and being done with it, rather than doing thing specifically to open up job opportunities that depress me. I guess I have this attitude where "we'll see". It feels better to me than just consciously moving toward a specific kind of doom.

And I like medicine because doctors are some of the people that I have the most respect for. There are plenty of folks who's jobs make a difference and I respect that - but I have so much admiration for doctors. It helps that they saved my life more than once - I'd finally feel like I was worth something if I did that. Right now, my entire formation is about doing shoddy social science research. In other words, in a week I can write a 40 pages document that nobody will ever read. There are very few private enterprises that would hire me after I'm done - like you said, it's government jobs because the government doesn't know how to spend its money and so it'll happily fund an excessive amount of inconsequential research.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
February 02 2013 05:24 GMT
#7
It is kind of sad. We live in a society where your actions when you were young, stupid and clueless have such a huge impact for the rest of your life. I'm in a similiar situation myself although im a tad older. Just don't throw in the towel but try to make yourself happier instead.


Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis.


I'm pretty sure that's like 99% of people right there. Most people aren't doing what they "really" want to do or atleast they don't think they're living an interesting life.
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 05:26:56
February 02 2013 05:25 GMT
#8
Here in Australia the content of your degree doesn't matter so much as having the degree. My father's friend is an engineer with a bachelor of agricultural science or something, that just has been working in the engineering field so long that that's all that matters. If he didn't have that bachelor's it would be pretty hard to have gotten into the field though. I'm not sure how useful a masters would be though, but aren't they normally like only 2-3 years anyway?

It seems to me that you're just suffering from excessive sadness (from the breakup), or perhaps longterm depression, in which case even if you were at med-school you'd feel shit too. Part of life is realizing that everyone has a role to play, a doctor isn't all that more important than any other profession, unless you have a huge shortage of doctors or something in your country, to fill a dire need. I think if you were in med school at this time you'd be having doubts about completing another 5 years or whatever to do be stuck in a narrow, taxing field for the rest of your life (or basically having wasted the whole of your life doing med-school).

If you are [actually clinically] depressed though, there's nothing anyone can say to fix it, you'll have to wait for it to pass or take action against it, coming from someone with depression.
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Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
February 02 2013 05:36 GMT
#9
On February 02 2013 13:03 Djzapz wrote:
I typically start writing these blogs when I get bored/sad and feel the need to talk to someone without directly bothering anyone that I know. It leads to me writing my life story which can get quite extensive, but this time I'll do my best to be concise and I'll leave a lot of things out. Here goes. [Note: Sorry, it turned out messy]

On dec 23rd last year I got dumped by my gf of 7 years, technically we had been engaged for the previous 3 years or so. I didn't take it so well, and unfortunately these kinds of events have a tendency of putting things into perspective. Now, I realize that I am disappointed in myself, and I ought to be...

For reference, I'm 23 now. Anywho, when I was a kid, I was pretty great. The most notable thing is, I was happy. Probably because I felt like I had something to look forward to. I was told that I could accomplish great things (lol ikr!). When teachers did their orientation things I would say that I hoped to be a "scientist" which is funny in retrospect but whatever, it was cute I'm sure. However a series of events, some of which I'll probably never know about, led to me progressively lowering the bar all the way down to where I am now.

I assume this is common, but when I was about 11-12, I stopped caring about my grades, and although I was consistently miles above the class averages, I was no where in the elite which you need to be in to even hope to have the grades for med school. Let's say I was a B+ student, miles above a C- average. It obviously put me in the shadow of A+ students.

To make a long story short, when I was 14, one year of bad grades in math made me branch off in the wrong direction, and while I could have taken the additional class to catch up, I didn't have the drive, and I really wish I had had the maturity to go for it instead of aimlessly fucking around for years. That bad grade in math is the tangible tipping point of where my desire to go to med school went from "it'll be tough" to "fuck it I can't do it". I was lazy, I still am. It's because I'm not looking forward to anything anymore, I've given up.

Now like I said before, I'm 23, and I've been going in the wrong direction for 6 years. I've blown my way through a bachelor in political science and I'm currently working my way through a masters. I used to be at least a little bit proud of it but now I realize that it's dumb and useless. Why did I do this?

I feel like I'm checkmated, I really do. Some of my buddies tell me that I should "just fucking do it"' jump ship 1 year before getting my masters and try to work toward med school. However, the system is such that the B/B+ average that I had when I was 18ish still makes me look bad, so I likely would have to jump through hoops to get admitted to med school - we're potentially talking about needing an entire bachelor in something "related to medicine" like pharmacy for instance. Overall, it could take 13-15 years instead of the typical 10-12. I'd almost be 40. On top of that, I'm afraid I've racked too many bad habits. Maybe I wouldn't even pull it off.

I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.


And for the longest time, I was almost proud to qualify myself as an avid gamer. It was my identity and there was nothing wrong with being passionate about something - right? Meanwhile, real life was rotting away. A 23 year old poli sci bachelor wearing his team dignitas jersey, ranting on forums about how SC2 isn't good enough for me... Fucking pathetic. And why was I so proud to be a gamer? Looking back, at least for me, it was clearly a weakness... I wasn't good enough to deal with my gaming addiction, and never bothered to put the necessary efforts into anything. And today I don't feel like I've earned anything. I got my bachelor while slacking off, I'll get my masters while slacking off. Then what?

Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. Years later I'll die a nobody. I'm tearing up a little writing this here. And to think I''m an arrogant megalomaniac most of the time...


I am a student of 21 who just started university in biophysics and i must say u have a very weird vision of the world. So either u go to med school and succed in one of the hardest life unimaginable (from your point of view) or end up failing and doing political science ( nothing against u guys i have alot of friends in that sector) how do u link the two. The goal of studies is to do something u like, not to take the hardest thing just because it is well seen by the society to be a doctor. There exist alot of jobs all inbetween, alot of people can make a difference in the world beside doctors.

Abandoning at 23 because u dont feel like doing is just a stupid thing to do ( and u know it!!!), maybe working on that arrogant megalomaniac thing might help u, meeting people and seeing what everyone is doing is an eye opener.

If u feel school is not for u and have to find your way in life, u could volunter around the world for the red cross or other things for charity and all the people who suffer around this world.

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WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
February 02 2013 05:41 GMT
#10
Djzapz, I've talked to you on the forums a few times(most noticeably on the Quebec threads) and you were always an educating, pleasurable person to talk to. You've got at least that going for you, and likely much more you don't fully weight.

While it does suck to be 23 and have a degree in something you don't think will find you employment and you will enjoy, you are 23. Keep that in mind - you are 5 years out of high school. It is entirely possible to start another career path from now on. For example, depending on your school, engineering degrees don't require super high admission averages and yield high paying jobs(on the flip side they are a lot of work).

Your situation is not entirely hopeless - but it is an uphill climb. You dug yourself into a hole through your earlier actions, and now you have to dig yourself back out. You can do it, but it'll require you to care and devote yourself to it. And if you don't devote yourself to turning your life around then you'll become another one of those uninteresting people doing uninteresting things wasting your life away. And no one will care except you.

To be honest, it seems like you are going through a period of depression, maybe stemming from your breakup. The same thing happened to me earlier in the year. Things fell through with a girl, bad thought cycle occurred, had serious doubts about what I was doing, etc. If you feel it may be depression try breaking it ASAP. Here is some advice. The key points are get outside and get more exercise.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
February 02 2013 05:43 GMT
#11
On February 02 2013 14:24 Daray wrote:
Show nested quote +
Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis.


I'm pretty sure that's like 99% of people right there. Most people aren't doing what they "really" want to do or atleast they don't think they're living an interesting life.

I'd settle with being at least mostly comfortable with what I do. Reading myself, I come off as condescending to people who have certain types of jobs, but I know there are janitors out there who have more heart than I do and are happier than I ever will be.

On February 02 2013 14:25 Rollin wrote:
Here in Australia the content of your degree doesn't matter so much as having the degree. My father's friend is an engineer with a bachelor of agricultural science or something, that just has been working in the engineering field so long that that's all that matters. If he didn't have that bachelor's it would be pretty hard to have gotten into the field though. I'm not sure how useful a masters would be though, but aren't they normally like only 2-3 years anyway?

It seems to me that you're just suffering from excessive sadness (from the breakup), or perhaps longterm depression, in which case even if you were at med-school you'd feel shit too. Part of life is realizing that everyone has a role to play, a doctor isn't all that more important than any other profession, unless you have a huge shortage of doctors or something in your country, to fill a dire need. I think if you were in med school at this time you'd be having doubts about completing another 5 years or whatever to do be stuck in a narrow, taxing field for the rest of your life (or basically having wasted the whole of your life doing med-school).

If you are [actually clinically] depressed though, there's nothing anyone can say to fix it, you'll have to wait for it to pass or take action against it, coming from someone with depression.

I've felt like this before the breakup as well, it comes and goes. I've been sad in general for a while, generally I just don't think about it... but I don't know that it's depression, I don't think so. Anyway I dunno so I can't really talk about it.

As for the doctor thing, it's just that I personally look up to them.

On February 02 2013 14:36 Darkren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 13:03 Djzapz wrote:
I typically start writing these blogs when I get bored/sad and feel the need to talk to someone without directly bothering anyone that I know. It leads to me writing my life story which can get quite extensive, but this time I'll do my best to be concise and I'll leave a lot of things out. Here goes. [Note: Sorry, it turned out messy]

On dec 23rd last year I got dumped by my gf of 7 years, technically we had been engaged for the previous 3 years or so. I didn't take it so well, and unfortunately these kinds of events have a tendency of putting things into perspective. Now, I realize that I am disappointed in myself, and I ought to be...

For reference, I'm 23 now. Anywho, when I was a kid, I was pretty great. The most notable thing is, I was happy. Probably because I felt like I had something to look forward to. I was told that I could accomplish great things (lol ikr!). When teachers did their orientation things I would say that I hoped to be a "scientist" which is funny in retrospect but whatever, it was cute I'm sure. However a series of events, some of which I'll probably never know about, led to me progressively lowering the bar all the way down to where I am now.

I assume this is common, but when I was about 11-12, I stopped caring about my grades, and although I was consistently miles above the class averages, I was no where in the elite which you need to be in to even hope to have the grades for med school. Let's say I was a B+ student, miles above a C- average. It obviously put me in the shadow of A+ students.

To make a long story short, when I was 14, one year of bad grades in math made me branch off in the wrong direction, and while I could have taken the additional class to catch up, I didn't have the drive, and I really wish I had had the maturity to go for it instead of aimlessly fucking around for years. That bad grade in math is the tangible tipping point of where my desire to go to med school went from "it'll be tough" to "fuck it I can't do it". I was lazy, I still am. It's because I'm not looking forward to anything anymore, I've given up.

Now like I said before, I'm 23, and I've been going in the wrong direction for 6 years. I've blown my way through a bachelor in political science and I'm currently working my way through a masters. I used to be at least a little bit proud of it but now I realize that it's dumb and useless. Why did I do this?

I feel like I'm checkmated, I really do. Some of my buddies tell me that I should "just fucking do it"' jump ship 1 year before getting my masters and try to work toward med school. However, the system is such that the B/B+ average that I had when I was 18ish still makes me look bad, so I likely would have to jump through hoops to get admitted to med school - we're potentially talking about needing an entire bachelor in something "related to medicine" like pharmacy for instance. Overall, it could take 13-15 years instead of the typical 10-12. I'd almost be 40. On top of that, I'm afraid I've racked too many bad habits. Maybe I wouldn't even pull it off.

I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.


And for the longest time, I was almost proud to qualify myself as an avid gamer. It was my identity and there was nothing wrong with being passionate about something - right? Meanwhile, real life was rotting away. A 23 year old poli sci bachelor wearing his team dignitas jersey, ranting on forums about how SC2 isn't good enough for me... Fucking pathetic. And why was I so proud to be a gamer? Looking back, at least for me, it was clearly a weakness... I wasn't good enough to deal with my gaming addiction, and never bothered to put the necessary efforts into anything. And today I don't feel like I've earned anything. I got my bachelor while slacking off, I'll get my masters while slacking off. Then what?

Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. Years later I'll die a nobody. I'm tearing up a little writing this here. And to think I''m an arrogant megalomaniac most of the time...


I am a student of 21 who just started university in biophysics and i must say u have a very weird vision of the world. So either u go to med school and succed in one of the hardest life unimaginable (from your point of view) or end up failing and doing political science ( nothing against u guys i have alot of friends in that sector) how do u link the two. The goal of studies is to do something u like, not to take the hardest thing just because it is well seen by the society to be a doctor. There exist alot of jobs all inbetween, alot of people can make a difference in the world beside doctors.

Abandoning at 23 because u dont feel like doing is just a stupid thing to do ( and u know it!!!), maybe working on that arrogant megalomaniac thing might help u, meeting people and seeing what everyone is doing is an eye opener.

If u feel school is not for u and have to find your way in life, u could volunter around the world for the red cross or other things for charity and all the people who suffer around this world.

I would like to go to med school because I have a lot of admiration for doctors and I can see myself actually feeling good about what I'm doing if I were a doctor. I wouldn't do it BECAUSE it hard, I would do it because I would like to do that - and it happens to be a difficult domain to get into.
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Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
February 02 2013 05:50 GMT
#12
On February 02 2013 14:43 Djzapz wrote:
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On February 02 2013 14:24 Daray wrote:
Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis.


I'm pretty sure that's like 99% of people right there. Most people aren't doing what they "really" want to do or atleast they don't think they're living an interesting life.

I'd settle with being at least mostly comfortable with what I do. Reading myself, I come off as condescending to people who have certain types of jobs, but I know there are janitors out there who have more heart than I do and are happier than I ever will be.

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On February 02 2013 14:25 Rollin wrote:
Here in Australia the content of your degree doesn't matter so much as having the degree. My father's friend is an engineer with a bachelor of agricultural science or something, that just has been working in the engineering field so long that that's all that matters. If he didn't have that bachelor's it would be pretty hard to have gotten into the field though. I'm not sure how useful a masters would be though, but aren't they normally like only 2-3 years anyway?

It seems to me that you're just suffering from excessive sadness (from the breakup), or perhaps longterm depression, in which case even if you were at med-school you'd feel shit too. Part of life is realizing that everyone has a role to play, a doctor isn't all that more important than any other profession, unless you have a huge shortage of doctors or something in your country, to fill a dire need. I think if you were in med school at this time you'd be having doubts about completing another 5 years or whatever to do be stuck in a narrow, taxing field for the rest of your life (or basically having wasted the whole of your life doing med-school).

If you are [actually clinically] depressed though, there's nothing anyone can say to fix it, you'll have to wait for it to pass or take action against it, coming from someone with depression.

I've felt like this before the breakup as well, it comes and goes. I've been sad in general for a while, generally I just don't think about it... but I don't know that it's depression, I don't think so. Anyway I dunno so I can't really talk about it.

As for the doctor thing, it's just that I personally look up to them.

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On February 02 2013 14:36 Darkren wrote:
On February 02 2013 13:03 Djzapz wrote:
I typically start writing these blogs when I get bored/sad and feel the need to talk to someone without directly bothering anyone that I know. It leads to me writing my life story which can get quite extensive, but this time I'll do my best to be concise and I'll leave a lot of things out. Here goes. [Note: Sorry, it turned out messy]

On dec 23rd last year I got dumped by my gf of 7 years, technically we had been engaged for the previous 3 years or so. I didn't take it so well, and unfortunately these kinds of events have a tendency of putting things into perspective. Now, I realize that I am disappointed in myself, and I ought to be...

For reference, I'm 23 now. Anywho, when I was a kid, I was pretty great. The most notable thing is, I was happy. Probably because I felt like I had something to look forward to. I was told that I could accomplish great things (lol ikr!). When teachers did their orientation things I would say that I hoped to be a "scientist" which is funny in retrospect but whatever, it was cute I'm sure. However a series of events, some of which I'll probably never know about, led to me progressively lowering the bar all the way down to where I am now.

I assume this is common, but when I was about 11-12, I stopped caring about my grades, and although I was consistently miles above the class averages, I was no where in the elite which you need to be in to even hope to have the grades for med school. Let's say I was a B+ student, miles above a C- average. It obviously put me in the shadow of A+ students.

To make a long story short, when I was 14, one year of bad grades in math made me branch off in the wrong direction, and while I could have taken the additional class to catch up, I didn't have the drive, and I really wish I had had the maturity to go for it instead of aimlessly fucking around for years. That bad grade in math is the tangible tipping point of where my desire to go to med school went from "it'll be tough" to "fuck it I can't do it". I was lazy, I still am. It's because I'm not looking forward to anything anymore, I've given up.

Now like I said before, I'm 23, and I've been going in the wrong direction for 6 years. I've blown my way through a bachelor in political science and I'm currently working my way through a masters. I used to be at least a little bit proud of it but now I realize that it's dumb and useless. Why did I do this?

I feel like I'm checkmated, I really do. Some of my buddies tell me that I should "just fucking do it"' jump ship 1 year before getting my masters and try to work toward med school. However, the system is such that the B/B+ average that I had when I was 18ish still makes me look bad, so I likely would have to jump through hoops to get admitted to med school - we're potentially talking about needing an entire bachelor in something "related to medicine" like pharmacy for instance. Overall, it could take 13-15 years instead of the typical 10-12. I'd almost be 40. On top of that, I'm afraid I've racked too many bad habits. Maybe I wouldn't even pull it off.

I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.


And for the longest time, I was almost proud to qualify myself as an avid gamer. It was my identity and there was nothing wrong with being passionate about something - right? Meanwhile, real life was rotting away. A 23 year old poli sci bachelor wearing his team dignitas jersey, ranting on forums about how SC2 isn't good enough for me... Fucking pathetic. And why was I so proud to be a gamer? Looking back, at least for me, it was clearly a weakness... I wasn't good enough to deal with my gaming addiction, and never bothered to put the necessary efforts into anything. And today I don't feel like I've earned anything. I got my bachelor while slacking off, I'll get my masters while slacking off. Then what?

Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. Years later I'll die a nobody. I'm tearing up a little writing this here. And to think I''m an arrogant megalomaniac most of the time...


I am a student of 21 who just started university in biophysics and i must say u have a very weird vision of the world. So either u go to med school and succed in one of the hardest life unimaginable (from your point of view) or end up failing and doing political science ( nothing against u guys i have alot of friends in that sector) how do u link the two. The goal of studies is to do something u like, not to take the hardest thing just because it is well seen by the society to be a doctor. There exist alot of jobs all inbetween, alot of people can make a difference in the world beside doctors.

Abandoning at 23 because u dont feel like doing is just a stupid thing to do ( and u know it!!!), maybe working on that arrogant megalomaniac thing might help u, meeting people and seeing what everyone is doing is an eye opener.

If u feel school is not for u and have to find your way in life, u could volunter around the world for the red cross or other things for charity and all the people who suffer around this world.

I would like to go to med school because I have a lot of admiration for doctors and I can see myself actually feeling good about what I'm doing if I were a doctor. I wouldn't do it BECAUSE it hard, I would do it because I would like to do that - and it happens to be a difficult domain to get into.


U still haven't answered any of the points i bring up, there are alot of jobs that u could still get into and enjoy, (like how do u even know that u would like being a doctor, do you know what they do in first they a learn all the veins and bones in the body for a year), if u want it that badly that u cant see yourself in anything else, then that is enough motivation to go through with it.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
February 02 2013 05:58 GMT
#13
On February 02 2013 14:41 WarSame wrote:
Djzapz, I've talked to you on the forums a few times(most noticeably on the Quebec threads) and you were always an educating, pleasurable person to talk to. You've got at least that going for you, and likely much more you don't fully weight.

While it does suck to be 23 and have a degree in something you don't think will find you employment and you will enjoy, you are 23. Keep that in mind - you are 5 years out of high school. It is entirely possible to start another career path from now on. For example, depending on your school, engineering degrees don't require super high admission averages and yield high paying jobs(on the flip side they are a lot of work).

Your situation is not entirely hopeless - but it is an uphill climb. You dug yourself into a hole through your earlier actions, and now you have to dig yourself back out. You can do it, but it'll require you to care and devote yourself to it. And if you don't devote yourself to turning your life around then you'll become another one of those uninteresting people doing uninteresting things wasting your life away. And no one will care except you.

To be honest, it seems like you are going through a period of depression, maybe stemming from your breakup. The same thing happened to me earlier in the year. Things fell through with a girl, bad thought cycle occurred, had serious doubts about what I was doing, etc. If you feel it may be depression try breaking it ASAP. Here is some advice. The key points are get outside and get more exercise.

Thank you, I'm glad you like my posting. I do tend to get overzealous sometimes, I hope you didn't see too much of my bad side =P.

And yeah I need to go outside but it's so f'ing cold =_=

On February 02 2013 14:50 Darkren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 14:43 Djzapz wrote:
On February 02 2013 14:24 Daray wrote:
Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis.


I'm pretty sure that's like 99% of people right there. Most people aren't doing what they "really" want to do or atleast they don't think they're living an interesting life.

I'd settle with being at least mostly comfortable with what I do. Reading myself, I come off as condescending to people who have certain types of jobs, but I know there are janitors out there who have more heart than I do and are happier than I ever will be.

On February 02 2013 14:25 Rollin wrote:
Here in Australia the content of your degree doesn't matter so much as having the degree. My father's friend is an engineer with a bachelor of agricultural science or something, that just has been working in the engineering field so long that that's all that matters. If he didn't have that bachelor's it would be pretty hard to have gotten into the field though. I'm not sure how useful a masters would be though, but aren't they normally like only 2-3 years anyway?

It seems to me that you're just suffering from excessive sadness (from the breakup), or perhaps longterm depression, in which case even if you were at med-school you'd feel shit too. Part of life is realizing that everyone has a role to play, a doctor isn't all that more important than any other profession, unless you have a huge shortage of doctors or something in your country, to fill a dire need. I think if you were in med school at this time you'd be having doubts about completing another 5 years or whatever to do be stuck in a narrow, taxing field for the rest of your life (or basically having wasted the whole of your life doing med-school).

If you are [actually clinically] depressed though, there's nothing anyone can say to fix it, you'll have to wait for it to pass or take action against it, coming from someone with depression.

I've felt like this before the breakup as well, it comes and goes. I've been sad in general for a while, generally I just don't think about it... but I don't know that it's depression, I don't think so. Anyway I dunno so I can't really talk about it.

As for the doctor thing, it's just that I personally look up to them.

On February 02 2013 14:36 Darkren wrote:
On February 02 2013 13:03 Djzapz wrote:
I typically start writing these blogs when I get bored/sad and feel the need to talk to someone without directly bothering anyone that I know. It leads to me writing my life story which can get quite extensive, but this time I'll do my best to be concise and I'll leave a lot of things out. Here goes. [Note: Sorry, it turned out messy]

On dec 23rd last year I got dumped by my gf of 7 years, technically we had been engaged for the previous 3 years or so. I didn't take it so well, and unfortunately these kinds of events have a tendency of putting things into perspective. Now, I realize that I am disappointed in myself, and I ought to be...

For reference, I'm 23 now. Anywho, when I was a kid, I was pretty great. The most notable thing is, I was happy. Probably because I felt like I had something to look forward to. I was told that I could accomplish great things (lol ikr!). When teachers did their orientation things I would say that I hoped to be a "scientist" which is funny in retrospect but whatever, it was cute I'm sure. However a series of events, some of which I'll probably never know about, led to me progressively lowering the bar all the way down to where I am now.

I assume this is common, but when I was about 11-12, I stopped caring about my grades, and although I was consistently miles above the class averages, I was no where in the elite which you need to be in to even hope to have the grades for med school. Let's say I was a B+ student, miles above a C- average. It obviously put me in the shadow of A+ students.

To make a long story short, when I was 14, one year of bad grades in math made me branch off in the wrong direction, and while I could have taken the additional class to catch up, I didn't have the drive, and I really wish I had had the maturity to go for it instead of aimlessly fucking around for years. That bad grade in math is the tangible tipping point of where my desire to go to med school went from "it'll be tough" to "fuck it I can't do it". I was lazy, I still am. It's because I'm not looking forward to anything anymore, I've given up.

Now like I said before, I'm 23, and I've been going in the wrong direction for 6 years. I've blown my way through a bachelor in political science and I'm currently working my way through a masters. I used to be at least a little bit proud of it but now I realize that it's dumb and useless. Why did I do this?

I feel like I'm checkmated, I really do. Some of my buddies tell me that I should "just fucking do it"' jump ship 1 year before getting my masters and try to work toward med school. However, the system is such that the B/B+ average that I had when I was 18ish still makes me look bad, so I likely would have to jump through hoops to get admitted to med school - we're potentially talking about needing an entire bachelor in something "related to medicine" like pharmacy for instance. Overall, it could take 13-15 years instead of the typical 10-12. I'd almost be 40. On top of that, I'm afraid I've racked too many bad habits. Maybe I wouldn't even pull it off.

I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.


And for the longest time, I was almost proud to qualify myself as an avid gamer. It was my identity and there was nothing wrong with being passionate about something - right? Meanwhile, real life was rotting away. A 23 year old poli sci bachelor wearing his team dignitas jersey, ranting on forums about how SC2 isn't good enough for me... Fucking pathetic. And why was I so proud to be a gamer? Looking back, at least for me, it was clearly a weakness... I wasn't good enough to deal with my gaming addiction, and never bothered to put the necessary efforts into anything. And today I don't feel like I've earned anything. I got my bachelor while slacking off, I'll get my masters while slacking off. Then what?

Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. Years later I'll die a nobody. I'm tearing up a little writing this here. And to think I''m an arrogant megalomaniac most of the time...


I am a student of 21 who just started university in biophysics and i must say u have a very weird vision of the world. So either u go to med school and succed in one of the hardest life unimaginable (from your point of view) or end up failing and doing political science ( nothing against u guys i have alot of friends in that sector) how do u link the two. The goal of studies is to do something u like, not to take the hardest thing just because it is well seen by the society to be a doctor. There exist alot of jobs all inbetween, alot of people can make a difference in the world beside doctors.

Abandoning at 23 because u dont feel like doing is just a stupid thing to do ( and u know it!!!), maybe working on that arrogant megalomaniac thing might help u, meeting people and seeing what everyone is doing is an eye opener.

If u feel school is not for u and have to find your way in life, u could volunter around the world for the red cross or other things for charity and all the people who suffer around this world.

I would like to go to med school because I have a lot of admiration for doctors and I can see myself actually feeling good about what I'm doing if I were a doctor. I wouldn't do it BECAUSE it hard, I would do it because I would like to do that - and it happens to be a difficult domain to get into.


U still haven't answered any of the points i bring up, there are alot of jobs that u could still get into and enjoy, (like how do u even know that u would like being a doctor, do you know what they do in first they a learn all the veins and bones in the body for a year), if u want it that badly that u cant see yourself in anything else, then that is enough motivation to go through with it.

I haven't really been able to think of many jobs that I'd like to do, frankly. It's not that I haven't thought about it either, I have - extensively. Nothing interests me very much. As for if I absolutely know that I would like being a doctor, not at all. I'm sure that job would actually slap me around quite a bit. But there are some elements that work for me - the challenge in general, the complexity and just the possibility to directly make some sort of difference. It's hard to explain but yeah.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
M-buster
Profile Joined June 2003
Honduras8 Posts
February 02 2013 06:14 GMT
#14
it's hard giving advice to someone in such a situation. you are very privileged in many ways, but are right to be disappointed since you are not where you should have been had you done what you had to way back when. it seems as if you feel like you are too smart and too good to be at your present situation, and it's probably true. 12 years is a long time, and that is if you even reach your goal. what if you quit six years in, how would you feel then? what if you become a doctor and it itsn't quite what you thought it'd be? to me it seems like you are right in questioning where your life is going, but are not ready to make a decision on what to do with it just yet. give it some time, think about what it really is that you want, what makes you happy about being a doctor, about yourself and you might discover some other area in which you could flourish. Life can surprise you when you least expect it. best of luck.
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
February 02 2013 06:25 GMT
#15
On February 02 2013 14:58 Djzapz wrote:
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On February 02 2013 14:41 WarSame wrote:
Djzapz, I've talked to you on the forums a few times(most noticeably on the Quebec threads) and you were always an educating, pleasurable person to talk to. You've got at least that going for you, and likely much more you don't fully weight.

While it does suck to be 23 and have a degree in something you don't think will find you employment and you will enjoy, you are 23. Keep that in mind - you are 5 years out of high school. It is entirely possible to start another career path from now on. For example, depending on your school, engineering degrees don't require super high admission averages and yield high paying jobs(on the flip side they are a lot of work).

Your situation is not entirely hopeless - but it is an uphill climb. You dug yourself into a hole through your earlier actions, and now you have to dig yourself back out. You can do it, but it'll require you to care and devote yourself to it. And if you don't devote yourself to turning your life around then you'll become another one of those uninteresting people doing uninteresting things wasting your life away. And no one will care except you.

To be honest, it seems like you are going through a period of depression, maybe stemming from your breakup. The same thing happened to me earlier in the year. Things fell through with a girl, bad thought cycle occurred, had serious doubts about what I was doing, etc. If you feel it may be depression try breaking it ASAP. Here is some advice. The key points are get outside and get more exercise.

Thank you, I'm glad you like my posting. I do tend to get overzealous sometimes, I hope you didn't see too much of my bad side =P.

And yeah I need to go outside but it's so f'ing cold =_=

Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 14:50 Darkren wrote:
On February 02 2013 14:43 Djzapz wrote:
On February 02 2013 14:24 Daray wrote:
Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis.


I'm pretty sure that's like 99% of people right there. Most people aren't doing what they "really" want to do or atleast they don't think they're living an interesting life.

I'd settle with being at least mostly comfortable with what I do. Reading myself, I come off as condescending to people who have certain types of jobs, but I know there are janitors out there who have more heart than I do and are happier than I ever will be.

On February 02 2013 14:25 Rollin wrote:
Here in Australia the content of your degree doesn't matter so much as having the degree. My father's friend is an engineer with a bachelor of agricultural science or something, that just has been working in the engineering field so long that that's all that matters. If he didn't have that bachelor's it would be pretty hard to have gotten into the field though. I'm not sure how useful a masters would be though, but aren't they normally like only 2-3 years anyway?

It seems to me that you're just suffering from excessive sadness (from the breakup), or perhaps longterm depression, in which case even if you were at med-school you'd feel shit too. Part of life is realizing that everyone has a role to play, a doctor isn't all that more important than any other profession, unless you have a huge shortage of doctors or something in your country, to fill a dire need. I think if you were in med school at this time you'd be having doubts about completing another 5 years or whatever to do be stuck in a narrow, taxing field for the rest of your life (or basically having wasted the whole of your life doing med-school).

If you are [actually clinically] depressed though, there's nothing anyone can say to fix it, you'll have to wait for it to pass or take action against it, coming from someone with depression.

I've felt like this before the breakup as well, it comes and goes. I've been sad in general for a while, generally I just don't think about it... but I don't know that it's depression, I don't think so. Anyway I dunno so I can't really talk about it.

As for the doctor thing, it's just that I personally look up to them.

On February 02 2013 14:36 Darkren wrote:
On February 02 2013 13:03 Djzapz wrote:
I typically start writing these blogs when I get bored/sad and feel the need to talk to someone without directly bothering anyone that I know. It leads to me writing my life story which can get quite extensive, but this time I'll do my best to be concise and I'll leave a lot of things out. Here goes. [Note: Sorry, it turned out messy]

On dec 23rd last year I got dumped by my gf of 7 years, technically we had been engaged for the previous 3 years or so. I didn't take it so well, and unfortunately these kinds of events have a tendency of putting things into perspective. Now, I realize that I am disappointed in myself, and I ought to be...

For reference, I'm 23 now. Anywho, when I was a kid, I was pretty great. The most notable thing is, I was happy. Probably because I felt like I had something to look forward to. I was told that I could accomplish great things (lol ikr!). When teachers did their orientation things I would say that I hoped to be a "scientist" which is funny in retrospect but whatever, it was cute I'm sure. However a series of events, some of which I'll probably never know about, led to me progressively lowering the bar all the way down to where I am now.

I assume this is common, but when I was about 11-12, I stopped caring about my grades, and although I was consistently miles above the class averages, I was no where in the elite which you need to be in to even hope to have the grades for med school. Let's say I was a B+ student, miles above a C- average. It obviously put me in the shadow of A+ students.

To make a long story short, when I was 14, one year of bad grades in math made me branch off in the wrong direction, and while I could have taken the additional class to catch up, I didn't have the drive, and I really wish I had had the maturity to go for it instead of aimlessly fucking around for years. That bad grade in math is the tangible tipping point of where my desire to go to med school went from "it'll be tough" to "fuck it I can't do it". I was lazy, I still am. It's because I'm not looking forward to anything anymore, I've given up.

Now like I said before, I'm 23, and I've been going in the wrong direction for 6 years. I've blown my way through a bachelor in political science and I'm currently working my way through a masters. I used to be at least a little bit proud of it but now I realize that it's dumb and useless. Why did I do this?

I feel like I'm checkmated, I really do. Some of my buddies tell me that I should "just fucking do it"' jump ship 1 year before getting my masters and try to work toward med school. However, the system is such that the B/B+ average that I had when I was 18ish still makes me look bad, so I likely would have to jump through hoops to get admitted to med school - we're potentially talking about needing an entire bachelor in something "related to medicine" like pharmacy for instance. Overall, it could take 13-15 years instead of the typical 10-12. I'd almost be 40. On top of that, I'm afraid I've racked too many bad habits. Maybe I wouldn't even pull it off.

I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.


And for the longest time, I was almost proud to qualify myself as an avid gamer. It was my identity and there was nothing wrong with being passionate about something - right? Meanwhile, real life was rotting away. A 23 year old poli sci bachelor wearing his team dignitas jersey, ranting on forums about how SC2 isn't good enough for me... Fucking pathetic. And why was I so proud to be a gamer? Looking back, at least for me, it was clearly a weakness... I wasn't good enough to deal with my gaming addiction, and never bothered to put the necessary efforts into anything. And today I don't feel like I've earned anything. I got my bachelor while slacking off, I'll get my masters while slacking off. Then what?

Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. Years later I'll die a nobody. I'm tearing up a little writing this here. And to think I''m an arrogant megalomaniac most of the time...


I am a student of 21 who just started university in biophysics and i must say u have a very weird vision of the world. So either u go to med school and succed in one of the hardest life unimaginable (from your point of view) or end up failing and doing political science ( nothing against u guys i have alot of friends in that sector) how do u link the two. The goal of studies is to do something u like, not to take the hardest thing just because it is well seen by the society to be a doctor. There exist alot of jobs all inbetween, alot of people can make a difference in the world beside doctors.

Abandoning at 23 because u dont feel like doing is just a stupid thing to do ( and u know it!!!), maybe working on that arrogant megalomaniac thing might help u, meeting people and seeing what everyone is doing is an eye opener.

If u feel school is not for u and have to find your way in life, u could volunter around the world for the red cross or other things for charity and all the people who suffer around this world.

I would like to go to med school because I have a lot of admiration for doctors and I can see myself actually feeling good about what I'm doing if I were a doctor. I wouldn't do it BECAUSE it hard, I would do it because I would like to do that - and it happens to be a difficult domain to get into.


U still haven't answered any of the points i bring up, there are alot of jobs that u could still get into and enjoy, (like how do u even know that u would like being a doctor, do you know what they do in first they a learn all the veins and bones in the body for a year), if u want it that badly that u cant see yourself in anything else, then that is enough motivation to go through with it.

I haven't really been able to think of many jobs that I'd like to do, frankly. It's not that I haven't thought about it either, I have - extensively. Nothing interests me very much. As for if I absolutely know that I would like being a doctor, not at all. I'm sure that job would actually slap me around quite a bit. But there are some elements that work for me - the challenge in general, the complexity and just the possibility to directly make some sort of difference. It's hard to explain but yeah.


Look seing as youve majored in political science and that u live in canada ( i also live in quebec), u need ur pure and applied or health science to get into medical schools, i know most big univerities give a program of like 1 year and a half to catch up in all courses in science. from there u will have classes in math, physic, chem and biology and u can see better which field of work might interest u. I would suggest by going that way. Good luck
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 06:37:21
February 02 2013 06:32 GMT
#16
On February 02 2013 15:14 M-buster wrote:
it's hard giving advice to someone in such a situation. you are very privileged in many ways, but are right to be disappointed since you are not where you should have been had you done what you had to way back when. it seems as if you feel like you are too smart and too good to be at your present situation, and it's probably true. 12 years is a long time, and that is if you even reach your goal. what if you quit six years in, how would you feel then? what if you become a doctor and it itsn't quite what you thought it'd be? to me it seems like you are right in questioning where your life is going, but are not ready to make a decision on what to do with it just yet. give it some time, think about what it really is that you want, what makes you happy about being a doctor, about yourself and you might discover some other area in which you could flourish. Life can surprise you when you least expect it. best of luck.

Thanks. But yeah as much as I shouldn't make quick decisions that may turn out to be dumb, if I wait too much longer, I may end up digging myself even deeper in this hole. Maybe I'd be better off accepting this mess rather than trying something else, potentially failing and then I'd have to have to accept an even bigger mess -_-. Admittedly I'm not exactly confident in my ability to pull off med school. I think I CAN... I don't know if I would. I obviously have a tested and true history of under-performing.

On February 02 2013 15:25 Darkren wrote:
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On February 02 2013 14:58 Djzapz wrote:
On February 02 2013 14:41 WarSame wrote:
Djzapz, I've talked to you on the forums a few times(most noticeably on the Quebec threads) and you were always an educating, pleasurable person to talk to. You've got at least that going for you, and likely much more you don't fully weight.

While it does suck to be 23 and have a degree in something you don't think will find you employment and you will enjoy, you are 23. Keep that in mind - you are 5 years out of high school. It is entirely possible to start another career path from now on. For example, depending on your school, engineering degrees don't require super high admission averages and yield high paying jobs(on the flip side they are a lot of work).

Your situation is not entirely hopeless - but it is an uphill climb. You dug yourself into a hole through your earlier actions, and now you have to dig yourself back out. You can do it, but it'll require you to care and devote yourself to it. And if you don't devote yourself to turning your life around then you'll become another one of those uninteresting people doing uninteresting things wasting your life away. And no one will care except you.

To be honest, it seems like you are going through a period of depression, maybe stemming from your breakup. The same thing happened to me earlier in the year. Things fell through with a girl, bad thought cycle occurred, had serious doubts about what I was doing, etc. If you feel it may be depression try breaking it ASAP. Here is some advice. The key points are get outside and get more exercise.

Thank you, I'm glad you like my posting. I do tend to get overzealous sometimes, I hope you didn't see too much of my bad side =P.

And yeah I need to go outside but it's so f'ing cold =_=

On February 02 2013 14:50 Darkren wrote:
On February 02 2013 14:43 Djzapz wrote:
On February 02 2013 14:24 Daray wrote:
Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis.


I'm pretty sure that's like 99% of people right there. Most people aren't doing what they "really" want to do or atleast they don't think they're living an interesting life.

I'd settle with being at least mostly comfortable with what I do. Reading myself, I come off as condescending to people who have certain types of jobs, but I know there are janitors out there who have more heart than I do and are happier than I ever will be.

On February 02 2013 14:25 Rollin wrote:
Here in Australia the content of your degree doesn't matter so much as having the degree. My father's friend is an engineer with a bachelor of agricultural science or something, that just has been working in the engineering field so long that that's all that matters. If he didn't have that bachelor's it would be pretty hard to have gotten into the field though. I'm not sure how useful a masters would be though, but aren't they normally like only 2-3 years anyway?

It seems to me that you're just suffering from excessive sadness (from the breakup), or perhaps longterm depression, in which case even if you were at med-school you'd feel shit too. Part of life is realizing that everyone has a role to play, a doctor isn't all that more important than any other profession, unless you have a huge shortage of doctors or something in your country, to fill a dire need. I think if you were in med school at this time you'd be having doubts about completing another 5 years or whatever to do be stuck in a narrow, taxing field for the rest of your life (or basically having wasted the whole of your life doing med-school).

If you are [actually clinically] depressed though, there's nothing anyone can say to fix it, you'll have to wait for it to pass or take action against it, coming from someone with depression.

I've felt like this before the breakup as well, it comes and goes. I've been sad in general for a while, generally I just don't think about it... but I don't know that it's depression, I don't think so. Anyway I dunno so I can't really talk about it.

As for the doctor thing, it's just that I personally look up to them.

On February 02 2013 14:36 Darkren wrote:
On February 02 2013 13:03 Djzapz wrote:
I typically start writing these blogs when I get bored/sad and feel the need to talk to someone without directly bothering anyone that I know. It leads to me writing my life story which can get quite extensive, but this time I'll do my best to be concise and I'll leave a lot of things out. Here goes. [Note: Sorry, it turned out messy]

On dec 23rd last year I got dumped by my gf of 7 years, technically we had been engaged for the previous 3 years or so. I didn't take it so well, and unfortunately these kinds of events have a tendency of putting things into perspective. Now, I realize that I am disappointed in myself, and I ought to be...

For reference, I'm 23 now. Anywho, when I was a kid, I was pretty great. The most notable thing is, I was happy. Probably because I felt like I had something to look forward to. I was told that I could accomplish great things (lol ikr!). When teachers did their orientation things I would say that I hoped to be a "scientist" which is funny in retrospect but whatever, it was cute I'm sure. However a series of events, some of which I'll probably never know about, led to me progressively lowering the bar all the way down to where I am now.

I assume this is common, but when I was about 11-12, I stopped caring about my grades, and although I was consistently miles above the class averages, I was no where in the elite which you need to be in to even hope to have the grades for med school. Let's say I was a B+ student, miles above a C- average. It obviously put me in the shadow of A+ students.

To make a long story short, when I was 14, one year of bad grades in math made me branch off in the wrong direction, and while I could have taken the additional class to catch up, I didn't have the drive, and I really wish I had had the maturity to go for it instead of aimlessly fucking around for years. That bad grade in math is the tangible tipping point of where my desire to go to med school went from "it'll be tough" to "fuck it I can't do it". I was lazy, I still am. It's because I'm not looking forward to anything anymore, I've given up.

Now like I said before, I'm 23, and I've been going in the wrong direction for 6 years. I've blown my way through a bachelor in political science and I'm currently working my way through a masters. I used to be at least a little bit proud of it but now I realize that it's dumb and useless. Why did I do this?

I feel like I'm checkmated, I really do. Some of my buddies tell me that I should "just fucking do it"' jump ship 1 year before getting my masters and try to work toward med school. However, the system is such that the B/B+ average that I had when I was 18ish still makes me look bad, so I likely would have to jump through hoops to get admitted to med school - we're potentially talking about needing an entire bachelor in something "related to medicine" like pharmacy for instance. Overall, it could take 13-15 years instead of the typical 10-12. I'd almost be 40. On top of that, I'm afraid I've racked too many bad habits. Maybe I wouldn't even pull it off.

I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.


And for the longest time, I was almost proud to qualify myself as an avid gamer. It was my identity and there was nothing wrong with being passionate about something - right? Meanwhile, real life was rotting away. A 23 year old poli sci bachelor wearing his team dignitas jersey, ranting on forums about how SC2 isn't good enough for me... Fucking pathetic. And why was I so proud to be a gamer? Looking back, at least for me, it was clearly a weakness... I wasn't good enough to deal with my gaming addiction, and never bothered to put the necessary efforts into anything. And today I don't feel like I've earned anything. I got my bachelor while slacking off, I'll get my masters while slacking off. Then what?

Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. Years later I'll die a nobody. I'm tearing up a little writing this here. And to think I''m an arrogant megalomaniac most of the time...


I am a student of 21 who just started university in biophysics and i must say u have a very weird vision of the world. So either u go to med school and succed in one of the hardest life unimaginable (from your point of view) or end up failing and doing political science ( nothing against u guys i have alot of friends in that sector) how do u link the two. The goal of studies is to do something u like, not to take the hardest thing just because it is well seen by the society to be a doctor. There exist alot of jobs all inbetween, alot of people can make a difference in the world beside doctors.

Abandoning at 23 because u dont feel like doing is just a stupid thing to do ( and u know it!!!), maybe working on that arrogant megalomaniac thing might help u, meeting people and seeing what everyone is doing is an eye opener.

If u feel school is not for u and have to find your way in life, u could volunter around the world for the red cross or other things for charity and all the people who suffer around this world.

I would like to go to med school because I have a lot of admiration for doctors and I can see myself actually feeling good about what I'm doing if I were a doctor. I wouldn't do it BECAUSE it hard, I would do it because I would like to do that - and it happens to be a difficult domain to get into.


U still haven't answered any of the points i bring up, there are alot of jobs that u could still get into and enjoy, (like how do u even know that u would like being a doctor, do you know what they do in first they a learn all the veins and bones in the body for a year), if u want it that badly that u cant see yourself in anything else, then that is enough motivation to go through with it.

I haven't really been able to think of many jobs that I'd like to do, frankly. It's not that I haven't thought about it either, I have - extensively. Nothing interests me very much. As for if I absolutely know that I would like being a doctor, not at all. I'm sure that job would actually slap me around quite a bit. But there are some elements that work for me - the challenge in general, the complexity and just the possibility to directly make some sort of difference. It's hard to explain but yeah.


Look seing as youve majored in political science and that u live in canada ( i also live in quebec), u need ur pure and applied or health science to get into medical schools, i know most big univerities give a program of like 1 year and a half to catch up in all courses in science. from there u will have classes in math, physic, chem and biology and u can see better which field of work might interest u. I would suggest by going that way. Good luck

Yeah I suppose unis may have better solutions than going all the way back to cegep. Thanks for the heads up.
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Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
February 02 2013 07:31 GMT
#17
On February 02 2013 15:32 Djzapz wrote:
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On February 02 2013 15:14 M-buster wrote:
it's hard giving advice to someone in such a situation. you are very privileged in many ways, but are right to be disappointed since you are not where you should have been had you done what you had to way back when. it seems as if you feel like you are too smart and too good to be at your present situation, and it's probably true. 12 years is a long time, and that is if you even reach your goal. what if you quit six years in, how would you feel then? what if you become a doctor and it itsn't quite what you thought it'd be? to me it seems like you are right in questioning where your life is going, but are not ready to make a decision on what to do with it just yet. give it some time, think about what it really is that you want, what makes you happy about being a doctor, about yourself and you might discover some other area in which you could flourish. Life can surprise you when you least expect it. best of luck.

Thanks. But yeah as much as I shouldn't make quick decisions that may turn out to be dumb, if I wait too much longer, I may end up digging myself even deeper in this hole. Maybe I'd be better off accepting this mess rather than trying something else, potentially failing and then I'd have to have to accept an even bigger mess -_-. Admittedly I'm not exactly confident in my ability to pull off med school. I think I CAN... I don't know if I would. I obviously have a tested and true history of under-performing.

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On February 02 2013 15:25 Darkren wrote:
On February 02 2013 14:58 Djzapz wrote:
On February 02 2013 14:41 WarSame wrote:
Djzapz, I've talked to you on the forums a few times(most noticeably on the Quebec threads) and you were always an educating, pleasurable person to talk to. You've got at least that going for you, and likely much more you don't fully weight.

While it does suck to be 23 and have a degree in something you don't think will find you employment and you will enjoy, you are 23. Keep that in mind - you are 5 years out of high school. It is entirely possible to start another career path from now on. For example, depending on your school, engineering degrees don't require super high admission averages and yield high paying jobs(on the flip side they are a lot of work).

Your situation is not entirely hopeless - but it is an uphill climb. You dug yourself into a hole through your earlier actions, and now you have to dig yourself back out. You can do it, but it'll require you to care and devote yourself to it. And if you don't devote yourself to turning your life around then you'll become another one of those uninteresting people doing uninteresting things wasting your life away. And no one will care except you.

To be honest, it seems like you are going through a period of depression, maybe stemming from your breakup. The same thing happened to me earlier in the year. Things fell through with a girl, bad thought cycle occurred, had serious doubts about what I was doing, etc. If you feel it may be depression try breaking it ASAP. Here is some advice. The key points are get outside and get more exercise.

Thank you, I'm glad you like my posting. I do tend to get overzealous sometimes, I hope you didn't see too much of my bad side =P.

And yeah I need to go outside but it's so f'ing cold =_=

On February 02 2013 14:50 Darkren wrote:
On February 02 2013 14:43 Djzapz wrote:
On February 02 2013 14:24 Daray wrote:
Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis.


I'm pretty sure that's like 99% of people right there. Most people aren't doing what they "really" want to do or atleast they don't think they're living an interesting life.

I'd settle with being at least mostly comfortable with what I do. Reading myself, I come off as condescending to people who have certain types of jobs, but I know there are janitors out there who have more heart than I do and are happier than I ever will be.

On February 02 2013 14:25 Rollin wrote:
Here in Australia the content of your degree doesn't matter so much as having the degree. My father's friend is an engineer with a bachelor of agricultural science or something, that just has been working in the engineering field so long that that's all that matters. If he didn't have that bachelor's it would be pretty hard to have gotten into the field though. I'm not sure how useful a masters would be though, but aren't they normally like only 2-3 years anyway?

It seems to me that you're just suffering from excessive sadness (from the breakup), or perhaps longterm depression, in which case even if you were at med-school you'd feel shit too. Part of life is realizing that everyone has a role to play, a doctor isn't all that more important than any other profession, unless you have a huge shortage of doctors or something in your country, to fill a dire need. I think if you were in med school at this time you'd be having doubts about completing another 5 years or whatever to do be stuck in a narrow, taxing field for the rest of your life (or basically having wasted the whole of your life doing med-school).

If you are [actually clinically] depressed though, there's nothing anyone can say to fix it, you'll have to wait for it to pass or take action against it, coming from someone with depression.

I've felt like this before the breakup as well, it comes and goes. I've been sad in general for a while, generally I just don't think about it... but I don't know that it's depression, I don't think so. Anyway I dunno so I can't really talk about it.

As for the doctor thing, it's just that I personally look up to them.

On February 02 2013 14:36 Darkren wrote:
On February 02 2013 13:03 Djzapz wrote:
I typically start writing these blogs when I get bored/sad and feel the need to talk to someone without directly bothering anyone that I know. It leads to me writing my life story which can get quite extensive, but this time I'll do my best to be concise and I'll leave a lot of things out. Here goes. [Note: Sorry, it turned out messy]

On dec 23rd last year I got dumped by my gf of 7 years, technically we had been engaged for the previous 3 years or so. I didn't take it so well, and unfortunately these kinds of events have a tendency of putting things into perspective. Now, I realize that I am disappointed in myself, and I ought to be...

For reference, I'm 23 now. Anywho, when I was a kid, I was pretty great. The most notable thing is, I was happy. Probably because I felt like I had something to look forward to. I was told that I could accomplish great things (lol ikr!). When teachers did their orientation things I would say that I hoped to be a "scientist" which is funny in retrospect but whatever, it was cute I'm sure. However a series of events, some of which I'll probably never know about, led to me progressively lowering the bar all the way down to where I am now.

I assume this is common, but when I was about 11-12, I stopped caring about my grades, and although I was consistently miles above the class averages, I was no where in the elite which you need to be in to even hope to have the grades for med school. Let's say I was a B+ student, miles above a C- average. It obviously put me in the shadow of A+ students.

To make a long story short, when I was 14, one year of bad grades in math made me branch off in the wrong direction, and while I could have taken the additional class to catch up, I didn't have the drive, and I really wish I had had the maturity to go for it instead of aimlessly fucking around for years. That bad grade in math is the tangible tipping point of where my desire to go to med school went from "it'll be tough" to "fuck it I can't do it". I was lazy, I still am. It's because I'm not looking forward to anything anymore, I've given up.

Now like I said before, I'm 23, and I've been going in the wrong direction for 6 years. I've blown my way through a bachelor in political science and I'm currently working my way through a masters. I used to be at least a little bit proud of it but now I realize that it's dumb and useless. Why did I do this?

I feel like I'm checkmated, I really do. Some of my buddies tell me that I should "just fucking do it"' jump ship 1 year before getting my masters and try to work toward med school. However, the system is such that the B/B+ average that I had when I was 18ish still makes me look bad, so I likely would have to jump through hoops to get admitted to med school - we're potentially talking about needing an entire bachelor in something "related to medicine" like pharmacy for instance. Overall, it could take 13-15 years instead of the typical 10-12. I'd almost be 40. On top of that, I'm afraid I've racked too many bad habits. Maybe I wouldn't even pull it off.

I can only live once and no matter what I do now, I have severely fucked up and a huge chunk of my life is wasted, if not all of it because I'll never live up to the expectations that I have for myself. The expectations that I should have had when it mattered - when it was really time to get my shit together.


And for the longest time, I was almost proud to qualify myself as an avid gamer. It was my identity and there was nothing wrong with being passionate about something - right? Meanwhile, real life was rotting away. A 23 year old poli sci bachelor wearing his team dignitas jersey, ranting on forums about how SC2 isn't good enough for me... Fucking pathetic. And why was I so proud to be a gamer? Looking back, at least for me, it was clearly a weakness... I wasn't good enough to deal with my gaming addiction, and never bothered to put the necessary efforts into anything. And today I don't feel like I've earned anything. I got my bachelor while slacking off, I'll get my masters while slacking off. Then what?

Get a boring job and stifle my ambitions for the rest of my life. That's what it's looking like. I'll be that uninteresting fellow in a sea of uninteresting fucks, and once in a while I'll have an existential crisis. Years later I'll die a nobody. I'm tearing up a little writing this here. And to think I''m an arrogant megalomaniac most of the time...


I am a student of 21 who just started university in biophysics and i must say u have a very weird vision of the world. So either u go to med school and succed in one of the hardest life unimaginable (from your point of view) or end up failing and doing political science ( nothing against u guys i have alot of friends in that sector) how do u link the two. The goal of studies is to do something u like, not to take the hardest thing just because it is well seen by the society to be a doctor. There exist alot of jobs all inbetween, alot of people can make a difference in the world beside doctors.

Abandoning at 23 because u dont feel like doing is just a stupid thing to do ( and u know it!!!), maybe working on that arrogant megalomaniac thing might help u, meeting people and seeing what everyone is doing is an eye opener.

If u feel school is not for u and have to find your way in life, u could volunter around the world for the red cross or other things for charity and all the people who suffer around this world.

I would like to go to med school because I have a lot of admiration for doctors and I can see myself actually feeling good about what I'm doing if I were a doctor. I wouldn't do it BECAUSE it hard, I would do it because I would like to do that - and it happens to be a difficult domain to get into.


U still haven't answered any of the points i bring up, there are alot of jobs that u could still get into and enjoy, (like how do u even know that u would like being a doctor, do you know what they do in first they a learn all the veins and bones in the body for a year), if u want it that badly that u cant see yourself in anything else, then that is enough motivation to go through with it.

I haven't really been able to think of many jobs that I'd like to do, frankly. It's not that I haven't thought about it either, I have - extensively. Nothing interests me very much. As for if I absolutely know that I would like being a doctor, not at all. I'm sure that job would actually slap me around quite a bit. But there are some elements that work for me - the challenge in general, the complexity and just the possibility to directly make some sort of difference. It's hard to explain but yeah.


Look seing as youve majored in political science and that u live in canada ( i also live in quebec), u need ur pure and applied or health science to get into medical schools, i know most big univerities give a program of like 1 year and a half to catch up in all courses in science. from there u will have classes in math, physic, chem and biology and u can see better which field of work might interest u. I would suggest by going that way. Good luck

Yeah I suppose unis may have better solutions than going all the way back to cegep. Thanks for the heads up.


That what im telling u, u dont have to do the cegep again, UQAM, Concordia and UDM all give a program that is the eq of cegep pure and applied science but in one year, its condense but u should be able to survive through, just dont be lazy in biology
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AxUU
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Finland162 Posts
February 02 2013 07:36 GMT
#18
Regarding the gaming addiction, at least you didn't want to get addicted like me, I hoped for years that I would get addicted to games so that I'd never have to stop playing, was I silly.

Anyhow, best of luck to you in future with everything!
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ultrakiss
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
97 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 07:51:15
February 02 2013 07:48 GMT
#19
Listen. I'm also 23. I havent finished a single undergrad (for a variety of reasons). If you have a passion for pre med, go for it. Especially if you think youre smart enough. 23 is young these days. I posted a thread worrying about this stuff and honestly it helped me realize that things will be ok. I want you to know that things will be ok as well. I took all study halls in highschool during my optional courses. Despite this, I have a 3.8 average in college (which I had to work for, since I didnt take college super serious earlier) and so far a 4.0 at my current university. You can do this. I stopped math super early, but that doesnt mean you cant catch up. Don't make excuses. I know that you can do at least as well as I can. You just need to focus on what you actually want! Math is not that bad! It just seems that way! I hope that you succeed in whatever you do! Good Luck!
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 08:27:40
February 02 2013 08:25 GMT
#20
I think you are depressed and that's why it's so gloomy, first of all you are 23, just finish your Masters and do what planned to do oringinally.

I'll also give you some alternative views on lifestyles. There is a friend of mine, he basically spent his entire life for success and earned two masters in egineering by the time he was 21, started his first company at 22 and made his first million at 25. He hated his life. The reason for this, according to him was that he feelt empty and that there was no real purpose to what he was doing. His life consists of boardmeetings and constant studys and it feelt like he had no real "life" and that he was trapped in the hamster wheel of success. He killed himself 3 years ago leaving a note saying that he really didn't achieve anything with his life and that it was empty and he did not know how to fix it.

Being sucessfulll isn't always that great as people make it out to be.
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