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So I was wondering:
If you all had the chance to work to become professional at either League of Legends or SC2, which would you choose? Assume you are say around Diamond league in SC2 and the equivalent of that in League of Legends.
Note the issue is not just about skill, but practicality of being able to reach the top.
You may also leave reasoning in the replies below.
Poll: Which game would you pursue?Starcraft 2 (43) 67% League of Legends (21) 33% 64 total votes Your vote: Which game would you pursue? (Vote): Starcraft 2
(Vote): League of Legends
edit: ok you guys seem to think this is asking which one I should go pro in, that IS NOT the question. It is asking which one YOU would.
and clearly this is assuming you are passionate enough about the game to pursue being a pro gamer
 
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if you're around diamond league level (sc2 wise) i'd say that the chance of being pro are near 0 in both cases.
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one does not become professional because of practicality, but because of intense love for the game.]
if progamers were practical there would be none
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Neither.
Now dota 2 on the other hand....
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ok you guys seem to think this is asking which one I should go pro in, that IS NOT the question. It is asking which one YOU would.
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Dota2.
Although I voted SC2 over league because SC2 is a better option than league not close.
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On January 23 2013 05:16 sAsImre wrote:
if you're around diamond league level (sc2 wise) i'd say that the chance of being pro are near 0 in both cases.
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On January 23 2013 05:18 kamkerx wrote:
one does not become professional because of practicality, but because of intense love for the game.]
if progamers were practical there would be none
And also this.
In case you're wondering, my answer to your question would be -neither- (and honestly I think it would be a good idea to include it in your poll).
I mean let's be honest here, progamer pay is kinda shit if you're not a top dog either overall or at least in your own country's scene. And to pursue the path of a progamer in a game that you don't enjoy playing, where the pay is bad unless you make it big and where there's zero chances for you to make it big, judging from the fact that you couldn't become AT LEAST mid-high masters playing part time... yeah lol. Nope.
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On January 23 2013 05:29 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2013 05:16 sAsImre wrote:
if you're around diamond league level (sc2 wise) i'd say that the chance of being pro are near 0 in both cases. This Show nested quote +On January 23 2013 05:18 kamkerx wrote:
one does not become professional because of practicality, but because of intense love for the game.]
if progamers were practical there would be none
And also this. In case you're wondering, my answer to your question would be -neither- (and honestly I think it would be a good idea to include it in your poll). I mean let's be honest here, progamer pay is kinda shit if you're not a top dog either overall or at least in your own country's scene. And to pursue the path of a progamer in a game that you don't enjoy playing, where the pay is bad unless you make it big and where there's zero chances for you to make it big, judging from the fact that you couldn't become AT LEAST mid-high masters playing part time... yeah lol. Nope.
clearly this is assuming you are passionate enough about the game to pursue being a pro gamer
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LoL is the future if you want to win some money.
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If you are diamond league, you have no chance of making it professional or even semi-professional in either scene. I voted LoL because it's actually fairly easy to be locally competitive. You don't need a great degree of skill or practice to go win local tournaments and get RP prizes and small cash prizes. No matter where you are, there will always be top masters or gm sc2 players winning all the local sc2 tournaments, so there's little chance there.
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You forget that his is an Starcraft forums. There will be bias.
Try do this poll at a leagues forum. Funny though, I was just thinking about Destiny's transition a minute ago, but thats for another post.
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On January 23 2013 05:41 RogerX wrote:
Try do this poll at a leagues forum. Funny though, I was just thinking about Destiny's transition a minute ago, but thats for another post.
Didn't he lose a ton of his viewership doing that? Either way, his league ELO is *awful* too after months and months of trying right?
The funny part is that league is hilariously easy to master (a HoN pro tried it and was #1 ELO in LoL after less than a month rofl).
Admittedly though, League is where the money is right now. Wasn't that the situation SC2 was in a year or 2 ago? I'm not sure that LoL has much longevity to it.
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neither? both? This is not an answerable question.
Poll: What is it better to do?I am a banana (21) 60% Sleep in (7) 20% Become a Tennis Pro (3) 9% Sit (2) 6% Stand (2) 6% 35 total votes Your vote: What is it better to do? (Vote): Sit
(Vote): Stand
(Vote): Become a Tennis Pro
(Vote): Sleep in
(Vote): I am a banana
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Neither. Sadly progaming is just not viable as a career, at least in my situation. Even if I were to become one of the world's greatest players (MVP-level), it means that I get to make solid 6-figure incomes for a single year, maybe 2 years if I'm lucky and consistent. What happens afterwards? With a solid undergraduate degree and a graduate degree, I can be making circa 6 figures if not more each and every year.
Furthermore, progaming is a pretty tough job, basically with little social life and free time, and lots of grinding. Not an ideal work environment, at least for me. Sure, travelling is nice, and being a niche celebrity can be fun, but it is very hard to transition into a post-gaming life comfortably sometimes. Education is delayed, my career is delayed, etc.
Progaming is a dream to me. I would love to become a champion, to stand in front of a roaring crowd, to hold that trophy up high. But it is only a dream
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I'm not really sure what you are looking to get out of this thread to be honest. If you're assuming we would be going pro and asking in a primarily SC2 based forum site which game it would be for I think you can already predict the answer.
But then you write this:
edit: ok you guys seem to think this is asking which one I should go pro in, that IS NOT the question. It is asking which one YOU would.
when we all know you are indirectly asking for feedback on your situation as you compare the exact same games and skill level, but you don't want to admit it (as per your last blog). So yeah you basically are asking us which one you should go pro in. I don't see how you could anticipate it as anything else. And you know the results are going to be SC2 biased.
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I don't think i would ever go pro. I think at that point sc2 might stop becoming fun when your forced to play 8 hours a day.
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On January 23 2013 06:01 Bagration wrote:
Neither. Sadly progaming is just not viable as a career, at least in my situation. Even if I were to become one of the world's greatest players (MVP-level), it means that I get to make solid 6-figure incomes for a single year, maybe 2 years if I'm lucky and consistent. What happens afterwards? With a solid undergraduate degree and a graduate degree, I can be making circa 6 figures if not more each and every year.
Furthermore, progaming is a pretty tough job, basically with little social life and free time, and lots of grinding. Not an ideal work environment, at least for me. Sure, travelling is nice, and being a niche celebrity can be fun, but it is very hard to transition into a post-gaming life comfortably sometimes. Education is delayed, my career is delayed, etc.
Progaming is a dream to me. I would love to become a champion, to stand in front of a roaring crowd, to hold that trophy up high. But it is only a dream
after you are a player you can always do something else in the industry
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Wtf....Ignore the ONE game that TL decided to branch into outside of SC?
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funny how dota2 "only" players got butt hurt that dota2 wasnt on the pool, well i would go for league of legens just because its more fun to me since its team vs solo play on sc2 ^^, also dont think i could make it on sc2 since the mechanical skill way to high for me i think
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On January 23 2013 06:58 Crissaegrim wrote:
Wtf....Ignore the ONE game that TL decided to branch into outside of SC?
Wtf... Ignore that he didn't put a game TL decided to cover in HIS blog? Madness, man.
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Going pro in a team game is way more about who you know than how good you are. Unless you enjoy professional social networking, sc2.
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sc2 because I love competitive 1on1 rts games. I dislike team games. Easy pick.
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LoL. dont like sc2, never will. scbw 4lyf.
plus i dont even play sc2
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On January 23 2013 05:07 DragonflySC2 wrote:So I was wondering: If you all had the chance to work to become professional at either League of Legends or SC2, which would you choose? Assume you are say around Diamond league in SC2 and the equivalent of that in League of Legends. Note the issue is not just about skill, but practicality of being able to reach the top. You may also leave reasoning in the replies below. Poll: Which game would you pursue?Starcraft 2 (43) 67% League of Legends (21) 33% 64 total votes Your vote: Which game would you pursue? (Vote): Starcraft 2
(Vote): League of Legends
edit: ok you guys seem to think this is asking which one I should go pro in, that IS NOT the question. It is asking which one YOU would. and clearly this is assuming you are passionate enough about the game to pursue being a pro gamer
You are asking this on a Starcraft website. Sure they have other sections, but just reminding you where it was tailored.
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On January 23 2013 05:31 fabiano wrote:
LoL is the future if you want to win some money.
Even that's a bit of a stretch. You need to either join or already have a really good team and to be on the top? It's pretty hard to stay at the top of LoL. Azubu is just finding that out now.
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Well if you are only diamond you pretty have close to a zero percent chance of being pro at either. You might as well be a real man and play dota or scbw instead.
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I voted for LoL so I can blame my team when I suck.
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LoL because dat money and seems a lot easier to have success.
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LoL because it seems to have a greater long-term casual market potential with new champions still being added. After the final SC2 patch of Legacy of the Void, the casual market will probably enter a slow decline to some kind of plateau. That and LoL is an easier game. I mean the top pros don't scrim 5s exclusively, they can often be found streaming solo queue. LoL seems like the better option both in terms of job stability and in terms of chance of financial success.
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SC2 because I hate needing to rely on others in a team game
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There's a lot more individual money to be had in SC2 and it's a lot more accessible. Most (>50%) of LoL's tourney money comes from the hugeass Riot tourney that you will NEVER make it in and another dominant chunk big/presigious tourneys. Very little small/community money. IN SC2, there's daily/weekly things like playhems and Z33Ks that you can try to make some cash off of. League has some too afaik but a lot less and, again, less accessible. There's things like open bracket (not anymore I guess) at MLG which is relatively "within reach" and a lot of small tourneys to try to place highly in. Not to mention city-wide LANs with like $300 prize pools.
For LoL, you're going to need a stable team to try to be at all competitive, which I know you're not going to do. You're going to need to network a lot to find scrims/practice partners, which is really difficult. "Just laddering" in LoL isn't going to get you far. There are more tourneys for SC2, higher player earnings, and it's a lot more accessible to practice since ladder cant take you to inches away from the top level.
But from what I've read from you so far, I'm 100% certain that you aren't going to make it absolutely anywhere with this progaming thing. I just hope that you try to do the reasonable thing and change your mind. A lot of people "think" that they want it but you're going to become very disillusioned, very fast. At worst case scenario, play on the side until you're at least in grandmaster league. Waste your time Play a few hours a day but keep on with your life responsibilities. Until you're there, don't even consider "going pro." YOU WILL NOT GET ANYWHERE. AT ALL. Sounds cynical, but it's the truth.
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i decided not to take a leave of absence, but just drop my micro class and continue onward. i dont want to make a mistake
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I would kill myself if I had to play lol all day, so sc2.
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Will always pursue a career in broodwar
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I doubt I would ever go pro, regardless if I was good enough. The money in esport is just too bad and irregular, and since I'm already fulltime employed at a company doing what I went to college to do, I would basically be throwing my career away just to dick around with something which is obviously fun, but worse from an economic standpoint.
That said, if I disregard that, it would depend on the situation. If it's "you're good enough soloQ in LoL to be on a team", that wouldn't be all that great, because the big teams are full so I would need to find really good players and start a new team... if it was something like "you would immediately become a EG member in SC2", that would be kind of sweet since I could live at their teamhouse and learn to play with them etc.
Overall, it's a bit too farfetched if it's going to be attractive. Just being good at the game is far from enough, you need contacts, a good image etc. Being an awesome player without a team just means you're wasting talent.
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Bored to death playing SC2, or having to support dota-like communities all day long. Neither !
But I guess it's easier in LoL to at least win some cashprize, with all the weekly tournaments. As a diamond, I mean.
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On January 23 2013 08:32 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2013 06:58 Crissaegrim wrote:
Wtf....Ignore the ONE game that TL decided to branch into outside of SC? Because people don't really care about it...
Gee, I don't know that it is particularly wise to be saying that for a game with a far larger playerbase and, by extension, far larger viewership for their top tournament, compared to SC2. :/
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DotA2 / LoL / sc2. in that order.
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EPT
