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SCRedditor
Profile Joined October 2012
United States57 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 22:24:23
October 30 2012 22:23 GMT
#41
As a Redditor, and a SCRedditor in particular, it is my solemn duty to always only restate the general opinion within a thread. I do not ever try to add something "contrairy" even especially if it may add content to the discussion.

If you follow the example above and the example below, your chances of offending are greatly reduced, thereby minimizing chances of ban/warning.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 30 2012 22:25 GMT
#42
On October 31 2012 07:23 SCRedditor wrote:
As a Redditor, and a SCRedditor in particular, it is my solemn duty to always only restate the general opinion within a thread. I do not ever try to add something "contrairy" even especially if it may add content to the discussion.

If you follow the example above and the example below, your chances of offending are greatly reduced, thereby minimizing chances of ban/warning.

above your post is advertising, which will get you banned. below your post is backseat modding, which will get you banned. ;-)
GraFx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States429 Posts
October 30 2012 22:39 GMT
#43
Asking for fair moderation on this site is silly. If you're not a well respected member of the community then you'd better not dare post a negative comment/remark about anybody who is and even if you are a well respec...-known member i.e. Naniwa you can still get a ban for a negative comment.

You're basically forced to only circle jerk other community shit or feel the wrath of ban happy mods. These forums are good for reading at times, never for posting.
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
October 30 2012 22:51 GMT
#44
Life must be so hard for you
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
October 30 2012 23:03 GMT
#45
There has been so much bitching and complaining about moderation these days. Coincidentally the amount of balance whining, flame-baiting, and trolling has also seemed to increase.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 31 2012 01:13 GMT
#46
I remember when I got banned for 2 weeks because I said something along the lines of wanting to blow up a Blizzard mapmaker's home. I have since learned my lesson.
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Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
October 31 2012 01:33 GMT
#47
On October 31 2012 07:23 SCRedditor wrote:
As a Redditor, and a SCRedditor in particular, it is my solemn duty to always only restate the general opinion within a thread. I do not ever try to add something "contrairy" even especially if it may add content to the discussion.

If you follow the example above and the example below, your chances of offending are greatly reduced, thereby minimizing chances of ban/warning.

Rofl, I felt the same way when I started posting on TL. I still kinda do, but I feel that if you express yourself in a way that doesn't offend others or sound absolutely ignorant, you'll be fine.

However, this brings up another point of conversation. Should people be banned for having an opinion that goes against the majority? Are there wrong opinions? Going back a month (I think) to the Boy scouts thread, what if someone said "I believe that gay men are more likely to end up pedophiles than gay men". Would he get banned for stating his opinion, even if others do view it as ignorant?
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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
October 31 2012 01:39 GMT
#48
On October 31 2012 10:33 Epishade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 07:23 SCRedditor wrote:
As a Redditor, and a SCRedditor in particular, it is my solemn duty to always only restate the general opinion within a thread. I do not ever try to add something "contrairy" even especially if it may add content to the discussion.

If you follow the example above and the example below, your chances of offending are greatly reduced, thereby minimizing chances of ban/warning.

Rofl, I felt the same way when I started posting on TL. I still kinda do, but I feel that if you express yourself in a way that doesn't offend others or sound absolutely ignorant, you'll be fine.

However, this brings up another point of conversation. Should people be banned for having an opinion that goes against the majority? Are there wrong opinions? Going back a month (I think) to the Boy scouts thread, what if someone said "I believe that gay men are more likely to end up pedophiles than gay men". Would he get banned for stating his opinion, even if others do view it as ignorant?

Funny you bring that up as a question when there was a long website feedback thread about someone being banned for saying that exact thing. So yes, you will likely be banned if you have a bigoted opinion. TL will kick you out the same as if you were somebody's house and they didn't like what you were saying.
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heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 31 2012 01:49 GMT
#49
On October 31 2012 10:39 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 10:33 Epishade wrote:
On October 31 2012 07:23 SCRedditor wrote:
As a Redditor, and a SCRedditor in particular, it is my solemn duty to always only restate the general opinion within a thread. I do not ever try to add something "contrairy" even especially if it may add content to the discussion.

If you follow the example above and the example below, your chances of offending are greatly reduced, thereby minimizing chances of ban/warning.

Rofl, I felt the same way when I started posting on TL. I still kinda do, but I feel that if you express yourself in a way that doesn't offend others or sound absolutely ignorant, you'll be fine.

However, this brings up another point of conversation. Should people be banned for having an opinion that goes against the majority? Are there wrong opinions? Going back a month (I think) to the Boy scouts thread, what if someone said "I believe that gay men are more likely to end up pedophiles than gay men". Would he get banned for stating his opinion, even if others do view it as ignorant?

Funny you bring that up as a question when there was a long website feedback thread about someone being banned for saying that exact thing. So yes, you will likely be banned if you have a bigoted opinion. TL will kick you out the same as if you were somebody's house and they didn't like what you were saying.


There were actually quite a surprising amount of people who shared that opinion in that thread. The only people I saw getting moderated for it though expressed that opinion in a less than polite way. epishade is pretty much correct in my experience with mods in that as long as your opinion is stated respectfully you should be fine.
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 02:01:25
October 31 2012 01:58 GMT
#50
a thread belongs to the people within it, and they are perfectly capable in most cases of moderating themselves and each other. if you arent participating in the thread then in the majority of cases you should mind your own business. if you dont like what someone says or how they say it and you're not part of the conversation then its none of your business. if you have something to say then by all means join in the thread and have your say just like everyone else. if things get out of hand then you can intervene, otherwise you should consider yourself just another poster and should respect other people and their threads and not impose yourself like you are high above everyone else.

mods are supposed to be here to intervene; not interfere.

i also think the policy on "no backseat moderation" (sic) is outdated. posters should know it is okay to criticise other posters in a mature fashion. if someone is getting out of hand in a discussion then participants in the discussion have every right to advise that person without worrying that they themselves will get in trouble for saying something. a mature conversation allows for this. moderators should respect this and remember that they are here to intervene when there are serious breeches of the rules and not to otherwise interfere except with their capacity as a regular poster
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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 02:02:48
October 31 2012 02:00 GMT
#51
On October 31 2012 10:49 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 10:39 Myles wrote:
On October 31 2012 10:33 Epishade wrote:
On October 31 2012 07:23 SCRedditor wrote:
As a Redditor, and a SCRedditor in particular, it is my solemn duty to always only restate the general opinion within a thread. I do not ever try to add something "contrairy" even especially if it may add content to the discussion.

If you follow the example above and the example below, your chances of offending are greatly reduced, thereby minimizing chances of ban/warning.

Rofl, I felt the same way when I started posting on TL. I still kinda do, but I feel that if you express yourself in a way that doesn't offend others or sound absolutely ignorant, you'll be fine.

However, this brings up another point of conversation. Should people be banned for having an opinion that goes against the majority? Are there wrong opinions? Going back a month (I think) to the Boy scouts thread, what if someone said "I believe that gay men are more likely to end up pedophiles than gay men". Would he get banned for stating his opinion, even if others do view it as ignorant?

Funny you bring that up as a question when there was a long website feedback thread about someone being banned for saying that exact thing. So yes, you will likely be banned if you have a bigoted opinion. TL will kick you out the same as if you were somebody's house and they didn't like what you were saying.


There were actually quite a surprising amount of people who shared that opinion in that thread. The only people I saw getting moderated for it though expressed that opinion in a less than polite way. epishade is pretty much correct in my experience with mods in that as long as your opinion is stated respectfully you should be fine.

How you say it certainly matters, but sometimes the opinion is so egregious it doesn't matter how respectful it's worded.

I've also found that people with bigoted opinions generally don't express them in a respectful way, so it kind of goes hand in hand
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
October 31 2012 02:04 GMT
#52
On October 31 2012 07:25 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 07:23 SCRedditor wrote:
As a Redditor, and a SCRedditor in particular, it is my solemn duty to always only restate the general opinion within a thread. I do not ever try to add something "contrairy" even especially if it may add content to the discussion.

If you follow the example above and the example below, your chances of offending are greatly reduced, thereby minimizing chances of ban/warning.

above your post is advertising, which will get you banned. below your post is backseat modding, which will get you banned. ;-)

You have 20 seconds to decide and your family is being watched, what do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO?!

Hm, I guess I can sort of sympathize (not necessarily empathize though lol) with Fenrax though, moderation will never be 100% consistent but I've definitely seen people get away with more, and can see why he might be a bit ticked off.
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sorrowptoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1431 Posts
October 31 2012 03:13 GMT
#53
Why make a blog about this? You really must have a ton of time on your hands to write a wall of text concerning your bans and warnings and complaining about them. Nothing is perfect, including modding, mods aren't robots. And be glad you aren't perm banned and that you're still talking, you're still unbanned and yet you seem pretty ungrateful for it.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
October 31 2012 03:18 GMT
#54
RE: #5: Your PM's get ignored? O_o That's a darn-awful shame if folks don't reply to those bright yellow notifications you send them.
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SCRedditor
Profile Joined October 2012
United States57 Posts
October 31 2012 03:45 GMT
#55
On October 31 2012 10:33 Epishade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 07:23 SCRedditor wrote:
As a Redditor, and a SCRedditor in particular, it is my solemn duty to always only restate the general opinion within a thread. I do not ever try to add something "contrairy" even especially if it may add content to the discussion.

If you follow the example above and the example below, your chances of offending are greatly reduced, thereby minimizing chances of ban/warning.

Rofl, I felt the same way when I started posting on TL. I still kinda do, but I feel that if you express yourself in a way that doesn't offend others or sound absolutely ignorant, you'll be fine.


No, you can get banned for the most trivial reasons. "A friend of mine" once got banned and he told me so.

I think the best/safest way is to only use the strategy forums, and only read guides and ask questions. Do not try to answer questions if you aren't a pro might get banned for giving advice if you are not pro so best play it safe.
Thanks to those that support me. For those that don't like me, please PM me. I always wish to kiss ass.
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
October 31 2012 05:14 GMT
#56
I've had a ban in a legitimate discussion for 'trolling'. I still have no clue how they came up with that decision. Maybe a mod had a bad day and had an urge to ban someone. I remember being angry, but I don't care anymore.
Its grack
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 05:25:08
October 31 2012 05:19 GMT
#57
I've gotten warnings for stuff in the past that would in 99% of other cases have been a temp ban -- regardless of whether or not it really should warrant a ban.. I guess it goes both ways.

On October 31 2012 12:13 sorrowptoss wrote:
Why make a blog about this? You really must have a ton of time on your hands to write a wall of text concerning your bans and warnings and complaining about them. Nothing is perfect, including modding, mods aren't robots. And be glad you aren't perm banned and that you're still talking, you're still unbanned and yet you seem pretty ungrateful for it.


Who are you to judge what he spends his time posting and what warrants discussion?

On October 31 2012 12:45 SCRedditor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 10:33 Epishade wrote:
On October 31 2012 07:23 SCRedditor wrote:
As a Redditor, and a SCRedditor in particular, it is my solemn duty to always only restate the general opinion within a thread. I do not ever try to add something "contrairy" even especially if it may add content to the discussion.

If you follow the example above and the example below, your chances of offending are greatly reduced, thereby minimizing chances of ban/warning.

Rofl, I felt the same way when I started posting on TL. I still kinda do, but I feel that if you express yourself in a way that doesn't offend others or sound absolutely ignorant, you'll be fine.


No, you can get banned for the most trivial reasons. "A friend of mine" once got banned and he told me so.

I think the best/safest way is to only use the strategy forums, and only read guides and ask questions. Do not try to answer questions if you aren't a pro might get banned for giving advice if you are not pro so best play it safe.


Or just don't try to answer a question you aren't completely confident in knowing the answer to; an awareness which should extend beyond your own experiences in SC2. If someone says you're wrong, you should be able to defend it. If theres the most minute hesitation in attempting to offer advice, chances are you're stretching it and shouldn't post.
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
October 31 2012 06:05 GMT
#58
I generally assume when I get warned that EvilTelletubby is drunk, or that I genuinely stepped over a line. In that order. And then i re-evaluate it the next day.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15330 Posts
October 31 2012 13:27 GMT
#59
On October 31 2012 10:58 FFGenerations wrote:
i also think the policy on "no backseat moderation" (sic) is outdated. posters should know it is okay to criticise other posters in a mature fashion.

Criticizing someone is not backseat moderating, and if done in a mature fashions as you say is perfectly ok.

Backseat moderating is telling people what they must and must not do publicly, assuming the role of a moderator. If you just want to help someone out with TL site rules simply PM them about it.

On October 31 2012 10:33 Epishade wrote:
However, this brings up another point of conversation. Should people be banned for having an opinion that goes against the majority?

Not generally, no. If that opinion happens to be grossly racist, homophobic, misogynistic or otherwise against commandment no 2 then, yes, they should be banned.

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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
October 31 2012 14:26 GMT
#60
On October 31 2012 12:45 SCRedditor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 10:33 Epishade wrote:
On October 31 2012 07:23 SCRedditor wrote:
As a Redditor, and a SCRedditor in particular, it is my solemn duty to always only restate the general opinion within a thread. I do not ever try to add something "contrairy" even especially if it may add content to the discussion.

If you follow the example above and the example below, your chances of offending are greatly reduced, thereby minimizing chances of ban/warning.

Rofl, I felt the same way when I started posting on TL. I still kinda do, but I feel that if you express yourself in a way that doesn't offend others or sound absolutely ignorant, you'll be fine.


No, you can get banned for the most trivial reasons. "A friend of mine" once got banned and he told me so.

I think the best/safest way is to only use the strategy forums, and only read guides and ask questions. Do not try to answer questions if you aren't a pro might get banned for giving advice if you are not pro so best play it safe.


Don't be moron, don't get banned. It's really not that difficult not to get banned...I've gotten warned 3? 4? I forget how many times ...lol...but they were all pretty justified. You won't get banned for having the minority opinion, I'm a good example of that - I posted a lot in some of the "police shoots dude" threads and backed the police instead of the sensationalist media, and I wasn't banned for not agreeing with a majority of the people in there.

Really, other than #1, I agree with all of the mod actions, but I remember the context...at one point TL was plagued with "troll", kind of like "killing ESPORTS" as it is now...that was one post made in the time of kill-everyone-who-says-troll era :p
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