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I must add, I'm also really curious what "new" features we're actually going to get with Heart of the Swarm. We were promised:
Multiplayer resume from replay
Global Play
Multilanguage support
Clan/group system
Unranked matchmaking
Multiplayer replay viewing
Browder said in a recent interview that they've been messing around with the clan/group system but don't know what they want. Same with unranked matchmaking as far as players picking matchups and such. Said he wasn't sure about the details of multiplayer resume from replay. But honestly I'd be surprised if we got more than three of those things that we were "promised."
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Anybody remember the ultralisk splash bug (repairing PFs with SCVs would be suicide) or the phoenix graviton beam bug (where using graviton beam on a unit would cause the pheonix to become "locked" in the graviton beam state)? The fact that bugs like these actually make it into production is terrifying when you are forcing every single person, including tournament players, to use the latest patch.
I don't think I need to contribute my own thoughts on Blizzard as a company other than this: you reap what you sew.
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On August 03 2012 01:26 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 01:25 TrippSC2 wrote:On August 03 2012 01:24 Chef wrote:
I'm not talking about the patch lol.... Because making games that aren't to your taste makes them awful human beings? Think that one through... Oh my god you don't know what you're talking about please stop lol. Do you even know what Morhaime said that pissed everyone off? I am just giving an example of one of the human beings whose living you support if you keep buying Blizzard games. If you like Blizzard games then it doesn't matter, but obv the guy I responded to does not so it's not like his money is going to a good cause or something, it's going to a bunch of fat cats.
Feel free to enlighten me on what he said that pissed you off. It would have to be pretty big to warrant you to call him an awful human being.
Not liking the business practices is not the same as hating the person was my point. If you don't want to be a Blizzard customer because you find what you get from their products to be unacceptable that's completely acceptable and reasonable.
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I'd argue that a lot of businessmen are awful human beings, and I wouldn't classify Morhaime as a good guy after his fluffy announcement that was so transparently complete bullshit.
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Mike M = murder of esport.
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agreed. multiple people should be fired as a result of this, it is completely unacceptable. I doubt anyone will actually get fired, but honestly heads really should roll, they need to get their act together.
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I loved being forced into a break for a few months by real life only to be unable to log in now because of this patch.
Broke my heart a bit tbh.
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On August 02 2012 18:37 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 18:28 rockshock wrote:On August 02 2012 18:25 Kleinmuuhg wrote:On August 02 2012 18:21 rockshock wrote:
I do wonder tho, Did any of the peopel QQing hard over this patch actually test the beta and give full feedback to blizzard? Or are you people who just jump on it now thats it out into your actual game. And to be fair it doesnt take ages to look through a profile and find out the league of people unless youre totally emptied for braincells of course. Use common logic and its not that hard to figure out. Its not the job of the players to test the beta and give feedback to blizzard? Blizzard uses the beta to get it's product tested and if it isnt voluntarily tested they have to find another way. Theres a public PTR for a reason. Of course its upto the community to test the patch. I dont see how the community got any right to whine and cry about stuff not working when theres been a beta for it for ages. And theres no way blizzard got the means to fully test it on theyr own. Thats why we got a public PTR in the first place. Your reasoning is disgusting. If blizzard is incapable of testing the patch it gives them NO RIGHT to implement the patch live and test it there. In fact it should prohibit them from applying the patch.
I doubt any IRC users here would expect a balanced, scholarly analysis by rockshock ...
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Blizz keeps getting worse.
This sucks for organizers.
'our map pool got bugged!'
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On August 03 2012 01:51 Djzapz wrote:
I'd argue that a lot of businessmen are awful human beings, and I wouldn't classify Morhaime as a good guy after his fluffy announcement that was so transparently complete bullshit.
don't forget OSL semis.
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On August 03 2012 01:51 Djzapz wrote:
I'd argue that a lot of businessmen are awful human beings, and I wouldn't classify Morhaime as a good guy after his fluffy announcement that was so transparently complete bullshit.
I find it a really hard argument to take seriously in the entertainment industry.
If you're not happy with a Blizzard product, you don't buy the next one and you feel cheated out of some money, but no one starves, dies, etc.
In critical industries such as health care, fuel (oil), banking, etc., I can totally follow along with that reasoning.
If you're talking about the D3 announcement, I didn't see anything wrong with it, but I would have liked some details about late game changes. Then again, I didn't go into it feeling jaded toward Blizzard. D3 is the only game of theirs that I really haven't gotten my money's worth from, but I think my tastes have changed and that has contributed to my lack of enjoyment.
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On August 03 2012 03:42 TrippSC2 wrote:
I find it a really hard argument to take seriously in the entertainment industry.
If you're not happy with a Blizzard product, you don't buy the next one and you feel cheated out of some money, but no one starves, dies, etc.
In critical industries such as health care, fuel (oil), banking, etc., I can totally follow along with that reasoning.
If you're talking about the D3 announcement, I didn't see anything wrong with it, but I would have liked some details about late game changes. Then again, I didn't go into it feeling jaded toward Blizzard. D3 is the only game of theirs that I really haven't gotten my money's worth from, but I think my tastes have changed and that has contributed to my lack of enjoyment.
Okay, so you're taking the utilitarian line of reasoning. Perfectly fine, but (1) quite a few of us care about aesthetics, art, and other "impractical" things, and (2) you're in a video game forum ... if you don't expect people here to think less of a person for ruining games we like, you're crazy.
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Just going to say. I don't custom much.. but i lose a lot on ladder due to a problem that I had since 1.3. When I ladder I'm no longer entering the game at the 40-70 second mark. I've already jumped from platinum to diamond this week. I'm very happy with 1.5's ladder aspects. Also, my apm went from about 140 to 225 so I think its more accurate again. I really like the creep on the minimap too. Much better. So thanks for working on the ladder blizzard, even though customs seem to be goofy.
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On August 03 2012 04:25 pigmanbear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 03:42 TrippSC2 wrote:
I find it a really hard argument to take seriously in the entertainment industry.
If you're not happy with a Blizzard product, you don't buy the next one and you feel cheated out of some money, but no one starves, dies, etc.
In critical industries such as health care, fuel (oil), banking, etc., I can totally follow along with that reasoning.
If you're talking about the D3 announcement, I didn't see anything wrong with it, but I would have liked some details about late game changes. Then again, I didn't go into it feeling jaded toward Blizzard. D3 is the only game of theirs that I really haven't gotten my money's worth from, but I think my tastes have changed and that has contributed to my lack of enjoyment. Okay, so you're taking the utilitarian line of reasoning. Perfectly fine, but (1) quite a few of us care about aesthetics, art, and other "impractical" things, and (2) you're in a video game forum ... if you don't expect people here to think less of a person for ruining games we like, you're crazy.
In my opinion, "awful human being" implies something a little bigger than being upset about ruining a game. I am passionate about video games, as well, but there is a separation between being upset about a bad game and attacking the maker's character as a human being.
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Please inform yourself before you say things that make you look like an idiot. It is not my responsibility to catch you up on current events and the events of the past three years when you enter an argument in pure ignorance.
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On August 03 2012 04:47 TrippSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:25 pigmanbear wrote:On August 03 2012 03:42 TrippSC2 wrote:
I find it a really hard argument to take seriously in the entertainment industry.
If you're not happy with a Blizzard product, you don't buy the next one and you feel cheated out of some money, but no one starves, dies, etc.
In critical industries such as health care, fuel (oil), banking, etc., I can totally follow along with that reasoning.
If you're talking about the D3 announcement, I didn't see anything wrong with it, but I would have liked some details about late game changes. Then again, I didn't go into it feeling jaded toward Blizzard. D3 is the only game of theirs that I really haven't gotten my money's worth from, but I think my tastes have changed and that has contributed to my lack of enjoyment. Okay, so you're taking the utilitarian line of reasoning. Perfectly fine, but (1) quite a few of us care about aesthetics, art, and other "impractical" things, and (2) you're in a video game forum ... if you don't expect people here to think less of a person for ruining games we like, you're crazy. In my opinion, "awful human being" implies something a little bigger than being upset about ruining a game. I am passionate about video games, as well, but there is a separation between being upset about a bad game and attacking the maker's character as a human being.
I think it's legitimate.
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I totally agree.
Even before this patch I was appalled at events being ruined or effected by the simple fact that LAN play is missing from the game, there is no need for it. Auth with Battle.net then send game data over LAN.. where's the problem? LAN's should be lag and problem free!
I really hope all the issue's and more get worked out. They are so far from a quality product.
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Blizzard is a business, the only reason they are pushing e-sports is to further their income. Spending the amount of time and effort they are into perfecting a product and keeping up servers for a game you only pay once for, is pretty unique in itself. Sure it helps their future sales, side events, products and their brandname. But in the end it comes down to this model giving them the biggest profit.
Spoiler for reality check, only read if you can deal with it  .
+ Show Spoiler +I won't say you're all spoiled, but you might want to rethink what's realy going on here and get used to the real world: where businesses are doing things for profit, not for planet or people. Bottom line: You've paid 50$ for a game, which gets updated, bugs get fixed and the whole game is balanced to perfection, sure they can mess up, but aren't we all being a tad unrealistic asking that a business with share holders needs to spend even more money on a game (meaning that it probably will never happen). I wouldn't waste my time on this, they will do as they please (or as long as their shareholders are pleased).
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On August 03 2012 04:54 Chef wrote:
Please inform yourself before you say things that make you look like an idiot. It is not my responsibility to catch you up on current events and the events of the past three years when you enter an argument in pure ignorance.
I've kept up on things pretty well and nothing at all comes to mind. Quite frankly, I can't fathom anything that would make me think "awful human being" would be justified.
IMO you look like an idiot for saying someone is an "awful human being" because he made a game you didn't like and said something you didn't like. Hardly seems like a compelling reason to hate someone on a personal level. That's a pretty fucked up outlook on life.
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