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On April 21 2012 16:44 TrainSamurai wrote:
Hey man I don't need 200/200 supply to show strategy alrite? I can just use one hero, whats the point in making things pointlessly harder if I can show I am smarter than you? LoL is after all more fun.
Btw not sure if you've been checking up sc2 rank but we're dying bro. No one playing ladder anymore while LoL is growing bigger and bigger by the day. They're truly the face of esports. Get with the times you sc2 elitist.
User was warned for this post
Even though he was warned, and for good reason, I'm baffled to see how many people miss the sarcasm in this post.
Back on Nina's topic.
If you got that from that "what will you do after BW thread"
What I get from that poll is not that peoplw will leave BW and move to SC2 but rather, and this is my case most likely - I say most likely because I want to give SC2 a chance after reading the opinion of the head coaches, even though I do think it's a boring game to play and much more so to watch - is that people will stop following any kind of pro-scene if BW stops being played at the highest level in existence (proleague). I will most definitely still play BW, preferably on Iccup because I can actually win some games there as opposed to Fish, plus I don't lag on ICCup.
On the issue of LoL > SC2. Is not so much that LoL just has a bigger community (even though admittedly is full of trolls; perhaps not the majority but there are quite a few). As a side note ,I think Day[9] did a great job educating the new blood in SC2 with his dailies and he deserves most of the credit for the SC2 community not being a cesspool of immaturity and individuals calling everyone a fag. But for people like me who think BW is infinitely better than SC2 as a game, is that I play BW and when I need a break from BW whether it be because friends are not online or I'm stressed from being such a try hard, I go play LoL because LoL is somewhat fun, easy and relaxing when you play with friends. Hell, micro 1 unit compared to being in a hectic battle doing all the shit you have to do in BW? This is heaven! and then I go back to BW, thus avoiding SC2 because I just don't find it fun.
For those of you who haven't go read final comments that January and the SKT coach gave on that interview that OpShot translated. I think it sums up pretty well the mentality of many people who prefer BW to SC2 but think that SC2 is closing on us inevitably upon BWs failure to stay alive (competitively) partly due to Savior's bullshit; the korean-centric environment of the game which wasn't liked around the world becuase they're too close minded to watch something in a different laguage let alone trying to understand it; blizzard's law suit in order to claim their rights to what they didn't think was important for 7 years (interestingly enough around the SC2 release). There's among us the feeling that blizzard came up with this in order to bulldozer BW from the way and have the motherland of ESPORTS accept their game. I will not go into that because that issue has been discussed to death for 3 years and nothing good came out of it. But all these reasons combined are what is "killing BW'", and the fact that when a sequel comes consumerism dictates that it's time to move on.
BW remains the RTS of my choice, and simply put I won't transition into an RTS that I think is inferior. LoL is just more fun to play in that respect because you can do it with friends and having 4 people with you on skype doing retarded shit in game and laughing.
That said I don't wish death upon SC2. I just don't care for it and if it has a good pro scene then good for you guys. The demise of televised BW came about many factors of which the release of SC2 as a game by itself, i.e. no blizzard propaganda and involvement in korea, had very little impact. In fact I admire people like SNM who are willing to defend both games because they truly enjoy them and their competitive scenes. I'd rather take the path of pretending that the game that didn't live up to the hype doesn't exist.
As an addendum and not that anyone would care, but I still would like to cover all my bases: I did try sc2, I was just as excited as anyone else in this site for it and I even did everything I could to win a beta-key from a TL.net contest. I played it a few times upon release on a friend's account. I just couldn't get into it.
I hope those of you who care about this topic actually take the time to read this wall of text because it just wouldn't do it justice to say TLDR "BW > all gl hf"
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On April 21 2012 15:43 Phyrigian wrote:
what both communities still fail to realise is that their game isnt the only "esport". i dare all of you to quit the community for 2ish months and play another "esport", and you'll start to realise that starcraft isnt the only esport in the world. you may think "yeah, i know that, but it doesnt really affect my stance on it" just try.
No shit, but that doesn't mean they have to buy into everything regardless.
SC:BW isn't going anywhere. Fewer people will play, but hey we'll still be here and we'll keep playing it regardless.
CrazyHorse,
What do you think the coaches are trying to do? It's lip service to get more people to buy into it. Now that they're trying to position sponsors for it what the heck you think they will do, lol.
They're remaining civil because the funds are drying up in BW (many variables in place).
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Yeah, I'm aware. I think we agree when I say that due to BW's financial viability having pretty much disappeared and their need to keep the people in the industry employed (it sucks but that's the way it is) they see the transition as their only option. If they had a real choice they wouldn't be switching.
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the problem is having three distinct communities on one domain
the swarm of delusional ESPORTS gamers have not benefited the bw community at all
broodwar stood on it's own and never gave a fuck about ESPORTS that happened completely organically
the magic was there from the beginning
even the earliest games gave us ageless pimpest plays
"give it time they said"
also ESPORTS
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On April 21 2012 17:52 endy wrote:
I will always play BW. When I'll have a kid, I'll teach him how to play and we will watch VODs together.
BW for life.
i think your kid will be really angry that you are forcing him to play old games and not the new nice looking ones 
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On April 22 2012 01:35 taitanik wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 17:52 endy wrote:
I will always play BW. When I'll have a kid, I'll teach him how to play and we will watch VODs together.
BW for life. i think your kid will be really angry that you are forcing him to play old games and not the new nice looking ones
If that's the case, kill that bastard and make another one. A BW hater is no child of mine.
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On April 21 2012 23:55 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 16:44 TrainSamurai wrote:
Hey man I don't need 200/200 supply to show strategy alrite? I can just use one hero, whats the point in making things pointlessly harder if I can show I am smarter than you? LoL is after all more fun.
Btw not sure if you've been checking up sc2 rank but we're dying bro. No one playing ladder anymore while LoL is growing bigger and bigger by the day. They're truly the face of esports. Get with the times you sc2 elitist.
User was warned for this post Even though he was warned, and for good reason, I'm baffled to see how many people miss the sarcasm in this post. Back on Nina's topic. If you got that from that "what will you do after BW thread" What I get from that poll is not that peoplw will leave BW and move to SC2 but rather, and this is my case most likely - I say most likely because I want to give SC2 a chance after reading the opinion of the head coaches, even though I do think it's a boring game to play and much more so to watch - is that people will stop following any kind of pro-scene if BW stops being played at the highest level in existence (proleague). I will most definitely still play BW, preferably on Iccup because I can actually win some games there as opposed to Fish, plus I don't lag on ICCup. On the issue of LoL > SC2. Is not so much that LoL just has a bigger community (even though admittedly is full of trolls; perhaps not the majority but there are quite a few). As a side note ,I think Day[9] did a great job educating the new blood in SC2 with his dailies and he deserves most of the credit for the SC2 community not being a cesspool of immaturity and individuals calling everyone a fag. But for people like me who think BW is infinitely better than SC2 as a game, is that I play BW and when I need a break from BW whether it be because friends are not online or I'm stressed from being such a try hard, I go play LoL because LoL is somewhat fun, easy and relaxing when you play with friends. Hell, micro 1 unit compared to being in a hectic battle doing all the shit you have to do in BW? This is heaven! and then I go back to BW, thus avoiding SC2 because I just don't find it fun. For those of you who haven't go read final comments that January and the SKT coach gave on that interview that OpShot translated. I think it sums up pretty well the mentality of many people who prefer BW to SC2 but think that SC2 is closing on us inevitably upon BWs failure to stay alive (competitively) partly due to Savior's bullshit; the korean-centric environment of the game which wasn't liked around the world becuase they're too close minded to watch something in a different laguage let alone trying to understand it; blizzard's law suit in order to claim their rights to what they didn't think was important for 7 years (interestingly enough around the SC2 release). There's among us the feeling that blizzard came up with this in order to bulldozer BW from the way and have the motherland of ESPORTS accept their game. I will not go into that because that issue has been discussed to death for 3 years and nothing good came out of it. But all these reasons combined are what is "killing BW'", and the fact that when a sequel comes consumerism dictates that it's time to move on. BW remains the RTS of my choice, and simply put I won't transition into an RTS that I think is inferior. LoL is just more fun to play in that respect because you can do it with friends and having 4 people with you on skype doing retarded shit in game and laughing. That said I don't wish death upon SC2. I just don't care for it and if it has a good pro scene then good for you guys. The demise of televised BW came about many factors of which the release of SC2 as a game by itself, i.e. no blizzard propaganda and involvement in korea, had very little impact. In fact I admire people like SNM who are willing to defend both games because they truly enjoy them and their competitive scenes. I'd rather take the path of pretending that the game that didn't live up to the hype doesn't exist. As an addendum and not that anyone would care, but I still would like to cover all my bases: I did try sc2, I was just as excited as anyone else in this site for it and I even did everything I could to win a beta-key from a TL.net contest. I played it a few times upon release on a friend's account. I just couldn't get into it. I hope those of you who care about this topic actually take the time to read this wall of text because it just wouldn't do it justice to say TLDR "BW > all gl hf"
A point of clarity:
Again, I'm not saying BroodWar is better than SC2, or vice-versa. Supernovamaniac actually has a surprisingly good attitude towards both games (although a few months ago, he was saying SC2 was shit and he hated it) which I share: both games are awesome! LoL is AWFUL, in my opinion.
That's not the point, though. The point is that people feel like they need to completely abandon playing BroodWar entirely in the foreign scene because of some shit that's happening in Korea. Some people would even see this as a positive development, because they want SC2 to become a legitimate ESPORT in NA, following the logic "It has to succeed in Korea to succeed here." and that's completely ass-backwards. That's what bugs me, the attitude, not really the games themselves.
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On April 22 2012 02:54 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 23:55 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:On April 21 2012 16:44 TrainSamurai wrote:
Hey man I don't need 200/200 supply to show strategy alrite? I can just use one hero, whats the point in making things pointlessly harder if I can show I am smarter than you? LoL is after all more fun.
Btw not sure if you've been checking up sc2 rank but we're dying bro. No one playing ladder anymore while LoL is growing bigger and bigger by the day. They're truly the face of esports. Get with the times you sc2 elitist.
User was warned for this post Even though he was warned, and for good reason, I'm baffled to see how many people miss the sarcasm in this post. Back on Nina's topic. If you got that from that "what will you do after BW thread" What I get from that poll is not that peoplw will leave BW and move to SC2 but rather, and this is my case most likely - I say most likely because I want to give SC2 a chance after reading the opinion of the head coaches, even though I do think it's a boring game to play and much more so to watch - is that people will stop following any kind of pro-scene if BW stops being played at the highest level in existence (proleague). I will most definitely still play BW, preferably on Iccup because I can actually win some games there as opposed to Fish, plus I don't lag on ICCup. On the issue of LoL > SC2. Is not so much that LoL just has a bigger community (even though admittedly is full of trolls; perhaps not the majority but there are quite a few). As a side note ,I think Day[9] did a great job educating the new blood in SC2 with his dailies and he deserves most of the credit for the SC2 community not being a cesspool of immaturity and individuals calling everyone a fag. But for people like me who think BW is infinitely better than SC2 as a game, is that I play BW and when I need a break from BW whether it be because friends are not online or I'm stressed from being such a try hard, I go play LoL because LoL is somewhat fun, easy and relaxing when you play with friends. Hell, micro 1 unit compared to being in a hectic battle doing all the shit you have to do in BW? This is heaven! and then I go back to BW, thus avoiding SC2 because I just don't find it fun. For those of you who haven't go read final comments that January and the SKT coach gave on that interview that OpShot translated. I think it sums up pretty well the mentality of many people who prefer BW to SC2 but think that SC2 is closing on us inevitably upon BWs failure to stay alive (competitively) partly due to Savior's bullshit; the korean-centric environment of the game which wasn't liked around the world becuase they're too close minded to watch something in a different laguage let alone trying to understand it; blizzard's law suit in order to claim their rights to what they didn't think was important for 7 years (interestingly enough around the SC2 release). There's among us the feeling that blizzard came up with this in order to bulldozer BW from the way and have the motherland of ESPORTS accept their game. I will not go into that because that issue has been discussed to death for 3 years and nothing good came out of it. But all these reasons combined are what is "killing BW'", and the fact that when a sequel comes consumerism dictates that it's time to move on. BW remains the RTS of my choice, and simply put I won't transition into an RTS that I think is inferior. LoL is just more fun to play in that respect because you can do it with friends and having 4 people with you on skype doing retarded shit in game and laughing. That said I don't wish death upon SC2. I just don't care for it and if it has a good pro scene then good for you guys. The demise of televised BW came about many factors of which the release of SC2 as a game by itself, i.e. no blizzard propaganda and involvement in korea, had very little impact. In fact I admire people like SNM who are willing to defend both games because they truly enjoy them and their competitive scenes. I'd rather take the path of pretending that the game that didn't live up to the hype doesn't exist. As an addendum and not that anyone would care, but I still would like to cover all my bases: I did try sc2, I was just as excited as anyone else in this site for it and I even did everything I could to win a beta-key from a TL.net contest. I played it a few times upon release on a friend's account. I just couldn't get into it. I hope those of you who care about this topic actually take the time to read this wall of text because it just wouldn't do it justice to say TLDR "BW > all gl hf" A point of clarity: Again, I'm not saying BroodWar is better than SC2, or vice-versa. Supernovamaniac actually has a surprisingly good attitude towards both games (although a few months ago, he was saying SC2 was shit and he hated it) which I share: both games are awesome! LoL is AWFUL, in my opinion. That's not the point, though. The point is that people feel like they need to completely abandon playing BroodWar entirely in the foreign scene because of some shit that's happening in Korea. Some people would even see this as a positive development, because they want SC2 to become a legitimate ESPORT in NA, following the logic "It has to succeed in Korea to succeed here." and that's completely ass-backwards. That's what bugs me, the attitude, not really the games themselves.
wtf are you talking about people abandoned bw in foreign scene because theres 100x more money in sc2 and 100x more fans and its already suceeded in foreign scene look at all the tournaments like mlgs and dreamhacks why would good player play bw to win 100$ in 1 tournament every month, people want bigger competition abd more money
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On April 22 2012 03:29 taitanik wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 02:54 ninazerg wrote:On April 21 2012 23:55 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:On April 21 2012 16:44 TrainSamurai wrote:
Hey man I don't need 200/200 supply to show strategy alrite? I can just use one hero, whats the point in making things pointlessly harder if I can show I am smarter than you? LoL is after all more fun.
Btw not sure if you've been checking up sc2 rank but we're dying bro. No one playing ladder anymore while LoL is growing bigger and bigger by the day. They're truly the face of esports. Get with the times you sc2 elitist.
User was warned for this post Even though he was warned, and for good reason, I'm baffled to see how many people miss the sarcasm in this post. Back on Nina's topic. If you got that from that "what will you do after BW thread" What I get from that poll is not that peoplw will leave BW and move to SC2 but rather, and this is my case most likely - I say most likely because I want to give SC2 a chance after reading the opinion of the head coaches, even though I do think it's a boring game to play and much more so to watch - is that people will stop following any kind of pro-scene if BW stops being played at the highest level in existence (proleague). I will most definitely still play BW, preferably on Iccup because I can actually win some games there as opposed to Fish, plus I don't lag on ICCup. On the issue of LoL > SC2. Is not so much that LoL just has a bigger community (even though admittedly is full of trolls; perhaps not the majority but there are quite a few). As a side note ,I think Day[9] did a great job educating the new blood in SC2 with his dailies and he deserves most of the credit for the SC2 community not being a cesspool of immaturity and individuals calling everyone a fag. But for people like me who think BW is infinitely better than SC2 as a game, is that I play BW and when I need a break from BW whether it be because friends are not online or I'm stressed from being such a try hard, I go play LoL because LoL is somewhat fun, easy and relaxing when you play with friends. Hell, micro 1 unit compared to being in a hectic battle doing all the shit you have to do in BW? This is heaven! and then I go back to BW, thus avoiding SC2 because I just don't find it fun. For those of you who haven't go read final comments that January and the SKT coach gave on that interview that OpShot translated. I think it sums up pretty well the mentality of many people who prefer BW to SC2 but think that SC2 is closing on us inevitably upon BWs failure to stay alive (competitively) partly due to Savior's bullshit; the korean-centric environment of the game which wasn't liked around the world becuase they're too close minded to watch something in a different laguage let alone trying to understand it; blizzard's law suit in order to claim their rights to what they didn't think was important for 7 years (interestingly enough around the SC2 release). There's among us the feeling that blizzard came up with this in order to bulldozer BW from the way and have the motherland of ESPORTS accept their game. I will not go into that because that issue has been discussed to death for 3 years and nothing good came out of it. But all these reasons combined are what is "killing BW'", and the fact that when a sequel comes consumerism dictates that it's time to move on. BW remains the RTS of my choice, and simply put I won't transition into an RTS that I think is inferior. LoL is just more fun to play in that respect because you can do it with friends and having 4 people with you on skype doing retarded shit in game and laughing. That said I don't wish death upon SC2. I just don't care for it and if it has a good pro scene then good for you guys. The demise of televised BW came about many factors of which the release of SC2 as a game by itself, i.e. no blizzard propaganda and involvement in korea, had very little impact. In fact I admire people like SNM who are willing to defend both games because they truly enjoy them and their competitive scenes. I'd rather take the path of pretending that the game that didn't live up to the hype doesn't exist. As an addendum and not that anyone would care, but I still would like to cover all my bases: I did try sc2, I was just as excited as anyone else in this site for it and I even did everything I could to win a beta-key from a TL.net contest. I played it a few times upon release on a friend's account. I just couldn't get into it. I hope those of you who care about this topic actually take the time to read this wall of text because it just wouldn't do it justice to say TLDR "BW > all gl hf" A point of clarity: Again, I'm not saying BroodWar is better than SC2, or vice-versa. Supernovamaniac actually has a surprisingly good attitude towards both games (although a few months ago, he was saying SC2 was shit and he hated it) which I share: both games are awesome! LoL is AWFUL, in my opinion. That's not the point, though. The point is that people feel like they need to completely abandon playing BroodWar entirely in the foreign scene because of some shit that's happening in Korea. Some people would even see this as a positive development, because they want SC2 to become a legitimate ESPORT in NA, following the logic "It has to succeed in Korea to succeed here." and that's completely ass-backwards. That's what bugs me, the attitude, not really the games themselves. wtf are you talking about people abandoned bw in foreign scene because theres 100x more money in sc2 and 100x more fans and its already suceeded in foreign scene look at all the tournaments like mlgs and dreamhacks why would good player play bw to win 100$ in 1 tournament every month, people want bigger competition abd more money
It's not about the money. It's about doing what you love.
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On April 22 2012 03:29 taitanik wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 02:54 ninazerg wrote:On April 21 2012 23:55 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:On April 21 2012 16:44 TrainSamurai wrote:
Hey man I don't need 200/200 supply to show strategy alrite? I can just use one hero, whats the point in making things pointlessly harder if I can show I am smarter than you? LoL is after all more fun.
Btw not sure if you've been checking up sc2 rank but we're dying bro. No one playing ladder anymore while LoL is growing bigger and bigger by the day. They're truly the face of esports. Get with the times you sc2 elitist.
User was warned for this post Even though he was warned, and for good reason, I'm baffled to see how many people miss the sarcasm in this post. Back on Nina's topic. If you got that from that "what will you do after BW thread" What I get from that poll is not that peoplw will leave BW and move to SC2 but rather, and this is my case most likely - I say most likely because I want to give SC2 a chance after reading the opinion of the head coaches, even though I do think it's a boring game to play and much more so to watch - is that people will stop following any kind of pro-scene if BW stops being played at the highest level in existence (proleague). I will most definitely still play BW, preferably on Iccup because I can actually win some games there as opposed to Fish, plus I don't lag on ICCup. On the issue of LoL > SC2. Is not so much that LoL just has a bigger community (even though admittedly is full of trolls; perhaps not the majority but there are quite a few). As a side note ,I think Day[9] did a great job educating the new blood in SC2 with his dailies and he deserves most of the credit for the SC2 community not being a cesspool of immaturity and individuals calling everyone a fag. But for people like me who think BW is infinitely better than SC2 as a game, is that I play BW and when I need a break from BW whether it be because friends are not online or I'm stressed from being such a try hard, I go play LoL because LoL is somewhat fun, easy and relaxing when you play with friends. Hell, micro 1 unit compared to being in a hectic battle doing all the shit you have to do in BW? This is heaven! and then I go back to BW, thus avoiding SC2 because I just don't find it fun. For those of you who haven't go read final comments that January and the SKT coach gave on that interview that OpShot translated. I think it sums up pretty well the mentality of many people who prefer BW to SC2 but think that SC2 is closing on us inevitably upon BWs failure to stay alive (competitively) partly due to Savior's bullshit; the korean-centric environment of the game which wasn't liked around the world becuase they're too close minded to watch something in a different laguage let alone trying to understand it; blizzard's law suit in order to claim their rights to what they didn't think was important for 7 years (interestingly enough around the SC2 release). There's among us the feeling that blizzard came up with this in order to bulldozer BW from the way and have the motherland of ESPORTS accept their game. I will not go into that because that issue has been discussed to death for 3 years and nothing good came out of it. But all these reasons combined are what is "killing BW'", and the fact that when a sequel comes consumerism dictates that it's time to move on. BW remains the RTS of my choice, and simply put I won't transition into an RTS that I think is inferior. LoL is just more fun to play in that respect because you can do it with friends and having 4 people with you on skype doing retarded shit in game and laughing. That said I don't wish death upon SC2. I just don't care for it and if it has a good pro scene then good for you guys. The demise of televised BW came about many factors of which the release of SC2 as a game by itself, i.e. no blizzard propaganda and involvement in korea, had very little impact. In fact I admire people like SNM who are willing to defend both games because they truly enjoy them and their competitive scenes. I'd rather take the path of pretending that the game that didn't live up to the hype doesn't exist. As an addendum and not that anyone would care, but I still would like to cover all my bases: I did try sc2, I was just as excited as anyone else in this site for it and I even did everything I could to win a beta-key from a TL.net contest. I played it a few times upon release on a friend's account. I just couldn't get into it. I hope those of you who care about this topic actually take the time to read this wall of text because it just wouldn't do it justice to say TLDR "BW > all gl hf" A point of clarity: Again, I'm not saying BroodWar is better than SC2, or vice-versa. Supernovamaniac actually has a surprisingly good attitude towards both games (although a few months ago, he was saying SC2 was shit and he hated it) which I share: both games are awesome! LoL is AWFUL, in my opinion. That's not the point, though. The point is that people feel like they need to completely abandon playing BroodWar entirely in the foreign scene because of some shit that's happening in Korea. Some people would even see this as a positive development, because they want SC2 to become a legitimate ESPORT in NA, following the logic "It has to succeed in Korea to succeed here." and that's completely ass-backwards. That's what bugs me, the attitude, not really the games themselves. wtf are you talking about people abandoned bw in foreign scene because theres 100x more money in sc2 and 100x more fans and its already suceeded in foreign scene look at all the tournaments like mlgs and dreamhacks why would good player play bw to win 100$ in 1 tournament every month, people want bigger competition abd more money
if you are playing a computer game purely to make money, you are wasting time anyway. Even the top pros, with the commitment they put into it, they could make so much money with a real job/business
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When I read things like "Brood War will never die" it reminds me of the people who still hang confederate flags from their porches and in the back of their pickups and honestly believe that the "south will rise again." Though obviously misguided, I can't help but feel that there's a tinge of admirability to sticking with something you believe in to the bitter end even when everyone else seems to have forgotten about it.
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On April 22 2012 05:33 Gheed wrote:
When I read things like "Brood War will never die" it reminds me of the people who still hang confederate flags from their porches and in the back of their pickups and honestly believe that the "south will rise again." Though obviously misguided, I can't help but feel that there's a tinge of admirability to sticking with something you believe in to the bitter end even when everyone else seems to have forgotten about it.
This is probably the worst attempt at comparison I have ever seen on this topic. This obviously becomes funnier when one remembers that BW is still larger and more successful than SC2 in Korea.
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On April 22 2012 07:03 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 05:33 Gheed wrote:
When I read things like "Brood War will never die" it reminds me of the people who still hang confederate flags from their porches and in the back of their pickups and honestly believe that the "south will rise again." Though obviously misguided, I can't help but feel that there's a tinge of admirability to sticking with something you believe in to the bitter end even when everyone else seems to have forgotten about it. This is probably the worst attempt at comparison I have ever seen on this topic. This obviously becomes funnier when one remembers that BW is still larger and more successful than SC2 in Korea.
"Never" is a long time. Also "in Korea" would be the key part of your post. I mean, War3 is still larger and more successful than SC2 in China, but it doesn't make War3 any less dead in the global scene. Maybe that is a better comparison for you?
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On April 22 2012 05:33 Gheed wrote:
When I read things like "Brood War will never die" it reminds me of the people who still hang confederate flags from their porches and in the back of their pickups and honestly believe that the "south will rise again." Though obviously misguided, I can't help but feel that there's a tinge of admirability to sticking with something you believe in to the bitter end even when everyone else seems to have forgotten about it.
No, that's called having a hobby and doing what you like rather than following a hype. Believe me, nearly all BW players at least tried SCII. If it was more fun to us than BW, we'd play it. I was never even close to earn some money, and even if, as someone mentioned earlier, there is no point in "esports" for "the moneyz".
I don't care if I see good games comeing from Korea or some D- scrub, as long as I'm entertained. BW simply can not die, as long as it's been played somewhere. Even if it would die "just like that" I'd still have thousands and thousands of VODs and replays I can watch whenever I'm in the mood.
Some of us "BW elitists" actually do follow some minor tours outside of Korea because we like the game, not because we want to have a highly competetive scene with a bunch of hype and streams and whatnot built around it. There are some idiots around here though that try to promote their own personality, as low as it might be, over the game... but nevermind them. It's still fun. And if it doesn't stop to be fun I'll stay here.
Persons that call me elistist, conservative, or worst of all accuse me of killing e-Sports for my attitude (game = fun, therefore i play/write/read about it / currently BW is most fun for me) should be sentenced to death by Twilight Marathon. Wait, in the end those people actually might like the idea 8[
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On April 22 2012 07:21 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 07:03 koreasilver wrote:On April 22 2012 05:33 Gheed wrote:
When I read things like "Brood War will never die" it reminds me of the people who still hang confederate flags from their porches and in the back of their pickups and honestly believe that the "south will rise again." Though obviously misguided, I can't help but feel that there's a tinge of admirability to sticking with something you believe in to the bitter end even when everyone else seems to have forgotten about it. This is probably the worst attempt at comparison I have ever seen on this topic. This obviously becomes funnier when one remembers that BW is still larger and more successful than SC2 in Korea. "Never" is a long time. Also "in Korea" would be the key part of your post. I mean, War3 is still larger and more successful than SC2 in China, but it doesn't make War3 any less dead in the global scene. Maybe that is a better comparison for you?
I don't have any delusions in thinking that BW is going to last much longer, both as a gaming community and as a professional scene. Whatever was left in the foreign scene is effectively dead now as all the major figures have moved to SC2 or other things. Korea will last a little while longer because of its special status in Korea, but everyone knows that it is only waning. But this doesn't change the fact that the comparison of BW fans with fucking southern American hicks that like to pretend they're the heirs of the confederate flag is completely retarded and the only way you could even make that comparison with any level of seriousness is by being asinine to new levels.
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On April 22 2012 12:49 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 07:21 babylon wrote:On April 22 2012 07:03 koreasilver wrote:On April 22 2012 05:33 Gheed wrote:
When I read things like "Brood War will never die" it reminds me of the people who still hang confederate flags from their porches and in the back of their pickups and honestly believe that the "south will rise again." Though obviously misguided, I can't help but feel that there's a tinge of admirability to sticking with something you believe in to the bitter end even when everyone else seems to have forgotten about it. This is probably the worst attempt at comparison I have ever seen on this topic. This obviously becomes funnier when one remembers that BW is still larger and more successful than SC2 in Korea. "Never" is a long time. Also "in Korea" would be the key part of your post. I mean, War3 is still larger and more successful than SC2 in China, but it doesn't make War3 any less dead in the global scene. Maybe that is a better comparison for you? I don't have any delusions in thinking that BW is going to last much longer, both as a gaming community and as a professional scene. Whatever was left in the foreign scene is effectively dead now as all the major figures have moved to SC2 or other things. Korea will last a little while longer because of its special status in Korea, but everyone knows that it is only waning. But this doesn't change the fact that the comparison of BW fans with fucking southern American hicks that like to pretend they're the heirs of the confederate flag is completely retarded and the only way you could even make that comparison with any level of seriousness is by being asinine to new levels.
Hey, at least they're not comparing us to post-WW I Germans.
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On April 22 2012 14:19 Hesmyrr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 12:49 koreasilver wrote:On April 22 2012 07:21 babylon wrote:On April 22 2012 07:03 koreasilver wrote:On April 22 2012 05:33 Gheed wrote:
When I read things like "Brood War will never die" it reminds me of the people who still hang confederate flags from their porches and in the back of their pickups and honestly believe that the "south will rise again." Though obviously misguided, I can't help but feel that there's a tinge of admirability to sticking with something you believe in to the bitter end even when everyone else seems to have forgotten about it. This is probably the worst attempt at comparison I have ever seen on this topic. This obviously becomes funnier when one remembers that BW is still larger and more successful than SC2 in Korea. "Never" is a long time. Also "in Korea" would be the key part of your post. I mean, War3 is still larger and more successful than SC2 in China, but it doesn't make War3 any less dead in the global scene. Maybe that is a better comparison for you? I don't have any delusions in thinking that BW is going to last much longer, both as a gaming community and as a professional scene. Whatever was left in the foreign scene is effectively dead now as all the major figures have moved to SC2 or other things. Korea will last a little while longer because of its special status in Korea, but everyone knows that it is only waning. But this doesn't change the fact that the comparison of BW fans with fucking southern American hicks that like to pretend they're the heirs of the confederate flag is completely retarded and the only way you could even make that comparison with any level of seriousness is by being asinine to new levels. Hey, at least they're not comparing us to post-WW I Germans.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Curse you inflation, now my ESPORTS bucks are worthless! T_T
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I would be lying if I said I didn't care if BW was popular or not though.
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