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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
March 20 2012 03:16 GMT
#401
On March 20 2012 11:47 JunkkaGom wrote:
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On March 20 2012 11:45 Arterial wrote:
do korean girls taste good johN?


the ones that are good looking do


LOL Made my night hahah
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ambikalx
Profile Joined September 2011
United States30 Posts
March 20 2012 03:20 GMT
#402
dude what kind of jacket is that guy wearing in the second to last picture?
Diglett
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
600 Posts
March 20 2012 03:29 GMT
#403
On March 20 2012 12:20 ambikalx wrote:
dude what kind of jacket is that guy wearing in the second to last picture?


it's a casual chambray blazer.
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2196 Posts
March 20 2012 03:29 GMT
#404
On March 20 2012 11:57 SDGCFO wrote:
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On March 20 2012 05:18 Bellygareth wrote:
Is there a reason Korean progamers seem way worse than any other foreigner when it comes to speaking english? I mean even the french guys (Stephano, Carn, ToD) speak english in stream and interviews all the time and god knows French are bad with english! Only very few Koreans seem to try and speak english?

On March 20 2012 05:48 Bellygareth wrote:
I get it more when you explain it :D. So it's not taught well for a first reason and people don't really care / never practice it for a second reason? I mean it's pretty hard for me to get it because well as the post of that "guy said" 11 years of teaching you should be able to speak it :S. Besides, the OP seem pretty good at at least writing english. I'm just wondering if it's just a difference between written english and speaking it?


Wasn't there an interview with one progamer where they asked why his English wasn't so good and he said he skipped class to practice Starcraft?

There are good teachers out there but it's not an effective system.

I disagree that there are plenty of Koreans that practically use English within Korea. Most of us forget what we learn from class as soon as we're out the door - same goes for Korea. They have a billion other activities and studies they have after regular school.

English isn't their first language and they're going to use Korean as much as they can especially if they're trying to make fun of the teacher or just mess around with other students.

Most Koreans are able to read and write thanks to memory and practice but speaking is another story. Up until recently, speaking was never a priority for major important tests and even job interviews. You could get away with a bare minimum but they've started to take notice and are making speaking a priority.



all the korean internationals at princeton are super good at english but, to our team's disappointment, have never played games.

i'm assuming that as a student in korea you either study (english) or play starcraft, hard to do both.
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Yenticha
Profile Joined July 2010
257 Posts
March 20 2012 03:35 GMT
#405
About school system: I only know the French/western Europe/USA/Taiwan ones (=I've experienced them/worked with students etc). Seeing that in Taiwan kids get sent to prep school as soon as they can walk, I'm going to assume that the pressure is kind of the same as in SK (not *exactly* the same).
And even though it can sound like intensive hours would lead to smart/educated students, it really is not true. The general impression (exceptions do exist) I have from Asian students is that they are used to spending countless hours in the lab/office/classroom, but at the end of the day, when it comes to creating something (project/scientific paper/mathematical proof), they are really not that good (not better than your average lazy French student who will spend 10hrs/week on campus.

I am NOT saying some are smarter, just saying that increasing the number of hours spent by kids studying is *not* guaranteed, at all, to lead to better/smarter students.

Personally, I feel like the pressure they have here to stay forever in the lab (even if they stay on facebook/msn) is almost counterproductive. I think it hurts more than it brings improvements.

It would be interesting to see a large scale study on the opinion of students having experienced SK+Western education/culture, about their education/social pressure on looks etc. The one thing I would really like to know is: does it make most people happy, to care so much about looks/fancy university name on the degree ? Would they prefer something different? If so, what is preventing them from going there?
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 20 2012 04:00 GMT
#406
On March 19 2012 06:43 Recognizable wrote:
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On March 19 2012 06:40 LunarC wrote:
The alternative route to Korean-defined success for men would be to study your ass off, get into a first-rate college, land a high-paying job, and rake in the dough. Then you can do whatever you want and people will flock help you do it.


And as a woman?

Marry one of the guys that took the above route.

Seriously seems to be the life goal of a sad number of people -_-
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 20 2012 04:03 GMT
#407
Unfortunately, it seems SK will not appreciate my hours of looking for good deals at the mall. So much for that Armani Exchange jacket I got for $23 that I thought was super awesome. Their loss.
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stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
March 20 2012 04:04 GMT
#408
On March 20 2012 00:58 drbrown wrote:
So basically the ideal for a man in south korea is to not be manly?


to certain extent. money > looks in Korea though.
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
March 20 2012 04:10 GMT
#409
Very informative blog !
I knew about the evolution of hair cuts thanks to following progaming for years.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 20 2012 04:13 GMT
#410
I always knew there was a culture of conformity but this blog was really eye-opening. I mean people always mention it without fail when you are talking about Korea but it really helps to have someone who knows hammer out all the details for you. Seriously jaw dropping stuff here.
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Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
March 20 2012 04:15 GMT
#411
Interesting read. Thank you for your insight from your experiences.
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Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
March 20 2012 05:07 GMT
#412
I agree, good general article but don't take it word for word. Living in Korea for awhile makes it seem really different, and I can imagine how different it is for an elementary to middle school student and an adult living here.
kurosawa
Profile Joined May 2011
31 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 05:39:07
March 20 2012 05:35 GMT
#413
I think people need to take this blog with a pinch of salt...
Yes it's true Korean's have what the West would consider a slightly too regimented and/or perhaps twisted idea of what beauty is. But what country doesn't? I've worked out in East Asia for many years and the same bizarre understanding of beauty is prevalent in Hong Kong, in China, in Japan, in Taiwan. All these cultures feed off each other in their pursuit for the notion of beauty.

It's just Koreans have made it a little more scientific, and the advancement of plastic surgery in Korea make it more of a phenomenon.

I hope readers of this now dont go on to think that all Koreans are obsessed with these rules of beauty. For example, I dated a very pretty Korean girl for quite a while but she was always super tanned. She liked that look, much in the way of Ganguro girls of Tokyo (though nowhere near as extreme). She was accepted by her her own and not mocked.

But to be honest, a few weeks back, I spent about a week in Seoul, and for once looked carefully at how people on the street looked. I'm afraid to report that I didnt see anyone resembling those in the OP's post. To me it says these uber beautiful people are in the extreme minority. There were one or two girls that looked stunning from afar...but when you get close you see the plastic surgery has completely altered their face in a way that borders on grotesque or unnatural.

To me, Korean beauty is not about this at all. Koreans look different from the majority of North East Asia and I do quite like the look. I wish they weren't so hell bent on changing it and making themselves look like manga characters. For example, the Korean actress Han Ji Hye I think is stunning, looks Korean and I'm sure has not had a million rounds of surgery.

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fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
March 20 2012 05:41 GMT
#414
This was a very entertaining blog! I've noticed the little things like obsession with white skin in New Zealand among the korean population. The funniest i find is the insistence of most Korean males to carry a handbag and to wear it just like a woman. We pretty much all have a good laugh about it but they seem to think it looks awesome. Oh and also the obsession with skinny jeans and having it tucked into these large shoes with a huge front flap.
kurosawa
Profile Joined May 2011
31 Posts
March 20 2012 05:57 GMT
#415
On March 20 2012 01:40 rotinegg wrote:
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On March 20 2012 01:18 Diglett wrote:
would the ppl that know korea take at look at this video?



how much of it is true? tbh this kind of attitude is very bad for mental and emotional health -_-. how and why did korean culture develop in such a fashion?

Yea, the white girl (Kelly?) is also pretty good at Korean, seems like she managed to capture a good bit of what goes on in school in Korea. I'm just gonna focus on the bit about academics. There are some pros along with the cons of such an intense academic setting: Korean students are incredibly disciplined and driven and generally carry a higher expectation in terms of achievement in life. The major con, however, is they almost always get burned out after entering college, and that's why you see everybody getting shitfaced 24/7 and getting academic suspensions left and right. When I came to America, the general lack of pressure and academic rigor shocked me: although it ensures kids don't get burned out from an early age, the base level of education for the majority of kids in the US lacks severely. For example, most Koreans who studied through high school have a comprehensive level of knowledge in a wide array of subjects, such as Korean and international history (to the level of being able to recite all the major newpaper headlines that were printed verbatim given any year in the last century), national and global geography (For example I remember having to memorize all the countries and capitals in Africa and reproduce them given a blank picture of the continent in 7th grade), English, another foreign language, ethics, math, all subjects of science, and even art/art history and music theory. The level of math high school students learn in America is elementary school level math for the smarter kids in Korea, so by "comprehensive level of knowledge" I mean enough to carry a full conversation in that subject for more than 5 minutes. They really don't mess around; studying in the US is child's play, and I mean that in the most non-disrespectful way possible.


I'm not sure whether you are comparing apples to apples. With the exception of maths (which I agree with you), the rest is just about rote learning, which is obviously prevalent in Asia, not just Korea. I cant speak for the American education system but the UK one in which I grew up in taught us something more valuable--to question and reason.

You almost make its sound like rote learning is good! Its actually frighteningly bad and doesn't prepare kids for anything other than to pass exams.
CutieBK
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Sweden227 Posts
March 20 2012 07:08 GMT
#416
amazing blog O.o

I can't believe I almost missed this. So interesting to read about the cultural differences between countries and having "insider information" on the crowd mentality of places.

Fantastic read, really well written!
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 08:24:29
March 20 2012 07:28 GMT
#417
Interesting stuff, I say to each to their own.

Edit: There is also no denying that because of their hard work they moved from poorest country in the World after the cease-fire w North Korea to first world country in less than 60 years.
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
March 20 2012 07:30 GMT
#418
Very nice blog, and thank you for the insight.

My thoughts:
It's truly sad that people care this much about their appearance. I understand that some amount of caring needs to be had, but to the point were people are ridiculed for expressing themselves in a different way is upsetting. Personally, I have never given a shit about what other people think of how I look. I go out in what I like, which is still surprisingly uncommon here in the US, and ignore the shit people give me for it.
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drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
March 20 2012 07:38 GMT
#419
On March 20 2012 14:35 kurosawa wrote:
I think people need to take this blog with a pinch of salt...
Yes it's true Korean's have what the West would consider a slightly too regimented and/or perhaps twisted idea of what beauty is. But what country doesn't? I've worked out in East Asia for many years and the same bizarre understanding of beauty is prevalent in Hong Kong, in China, in Japan, in Taiwan. All these cultures feed off each other in their pursuit for the notion of beauty.

It's just Koreans have made it a little more scientific, and the advancement of plastic surgery in Korea make it more of a phenomenon.

I hope readers of this now dont go on to think that all Koreans are obsessed with these rules of beauty. For example, I dated a very pretty Korean girl for quite a while but she was always super tanned. She liked that look, much in the way of Ganguro girls of Tokyo (though nowhere near as extreme). She was accepted by her her own and not mocked.

But to be honest, a few weeks back, I spent about a week in Seoul, and for once looked carefully at how people on the street looked. I'm afraid to report that I didnt see anyone resembling those in the OP's post. To me it says these uber beautiful people are in the extreme minority. There were one or two girls that looked stunning from afar...but when you get close you see the plastic surgery has completely altered their face in a way that borders on grotesque or unnatural.

To me, Korean beauty is not about this at all. Koreans look different from the majority of North East Asia and I do quite like the look. I wish they weren't so hell bent on changing it and making themselves look like manga characters. For example, the Korean actress Han Ji Hye I think is stunning, looks Korean and I'm sure has not had a million rounds of surgery.

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Literally two seconds in google says otherwise.

Nice blog, very interesting read and those SNSD pictures almost made me jump out of my chair. Very scary (and pretty awesome from a scientific point of view) what surgery can do to your appearence.
kurosawa
Profile Joined May 2011
31 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 07:58:29
March 20 2012 07:48 GMT
#420
On March 20 2012 16:38 drlame wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 14:35 kurosawa wrote:
I think people need to take this blog with a pinch of salt...
Yes it's true Korean's have what the West would consider a slightly too regimented and/or perhaps twisted idea of what beauty is. But what country doesn't? I've worked out in East Asia for many years and the same bizarre understanding of beauty is prevalent in Hong Kong, in China, in Japan, in Taiwan. All these cultures feed off each other in their pursuit for the notion of beauty.

It's just Koreans have made it a little more scientific, and the advancement of plastic surgery in Korea make it more of a phenomenon.

I hope readers of this now dont go on to think that all Koreans are obsessed with these rules of beauty. For example, I dated a very pretty Korean girl for quite a while but she was always super tanned. She liked that look, much in the way of Ganguro girls of Tokyo (though nowhere near as extreme). She was accepted by her her own and not mocked.

But to be honest, a few weeks back, I spent about a week in Seoul, and for once looked carefully at how people on the street looked. I'm afraid to report that I didnt see anyone resembling those in the OP's post. To me it says these uber beautiful people are in the extreme minority. There were one or two girls that looked stunning from afar...but when you get close you see the plastic surgery has completely altered their face in a way that borders on grotesque or unnatural.

To me, Korean beauty is not about this at all. Koreans look different from the majority of North East Asia and I do quite like the look. I wish they weren't so hell bent on changing it and making themselves look like manga characters. For example, the Korean actress Han Ji Hye I think is stunning, looks Korean and I'm sure has not had a million rounds of surgery.

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Literally two seconds in google says otherwise.

Nice blog, very interesting read and those SNSD pictures almost made me jump out of my chair. Very scary (and pretty awesome from a scientific point of view) what surgery can do to your appearence.


You saw those SNSD photos of what they looked like before. That's drastic change.

Ok so she went under the knife a little but its not a huge difference, as shown in the photo below

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Hyo-yeon of Girls Generation (SNSD)


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