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Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 03:59:55
February 14 2012 03:58 GMT
#1
So here we go again, last time I made this thread it got closed by Kennegit basically telling me to stop persuing something stupid and focus in school..

Welp, I did.

I had all Ds (I know, I lied, I admit) and then I put a ton of effort into getting my grades back up. When I posted that, i had 2 weeks until the quarter ended. By the time it ended, I had 6 A's and a B. Thank you Kennegit, that actually hit home, honestly. But now, I've set up a schedule in which I can get 4 hours of practice time in every weekday AND manage my schoolwork. Back when I posted my last blog, I lied a lot. I wrote the blog at about 4am and was trying to get people to say nice encouraging things or whatever.

Welp, no more.
Things I lied about (honestly)
-rank
-league
-amount of time i practised every day

Back when I wrote that, I was actually around rank 25 gold on NA server. After getting my schoolwork all put together and creating a schedule, by following it I am currently rank 2 plat and have all A+'s. When ladder restarts tomorrow, I will no doubt be diamond.
I hope to constantly improve WHILE keeping my grades up. Kennegit was the first person to (kind of) tell me harshly that school was important, and I greatly appreciate it. The biggest influence of mine atm is Illusion, as he is close to my age and is improving. I have recently made a ton of friends on battle.net and have stopped BMing so much (used to every game I lost) and I am analyzing replays. I can clearly point out my mistakes and fix them. Kennegit, once again, I honestly thank you. Although you told me to drop being a progamer (I won't), I AM improving in school and I realize now how important that is to being successful.

Also, AMA, I'll check this often if people look at it.

Edit: (PM me anytime if you want to practice and are in Diamond-Master, I will always accept a game if I am able)

**
"In solitude, we are least alone"
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
February 14 2012 04:02 GMT
#2
Fool me once and so on :D stay in school you don't seem very bright.
AegonC
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States260 Posts
February 14 2012 04:05 GMT
#3
Thats great! Remember, school is your job right now, don't slack on your job. Also your names seems familiar, do you hang out in the ClanEx channel?
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
February 14 2012 04:11 GMT
#4
Oh I remember reading that old blog, I'm glad that you didn't go on the same path as Flamesword from halo. Feel free to add me for some games, TBone.667
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
February 14 2012 04:11 GMT
#5
How old are you?
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 04:13:14
February 14 2012 04:11 GMT
#6
I don't like to be harsh, but the simple truth is that you're not going to become a progamer. You won't ever make it to korea. In all likelihood you won't even be a relevant name in the foreign scene. The skill gap between you and the pros is much wider than you think, and no amount of practice will get you there. It may seem unreal, but better players than you have tried. People who were smarter than you, who practiced more, who had more support and who were more talented have tried and failed. They fell back on their schooling and concentrated on their studies. You're not going to do better.

If you really want to be a presence in the starcraft community, this website is a great place to start. You don't have to be good at the game, you can just be entertaining, or learn to program and make something useful for us, or if you're an artist draw something. But please don't waste your life chasing an impossible dream. If you're telling the truth about your grades then that's great, keep it up, but don't see starcraft as anything more than a hobby. That's not to say you shouldn't keep trying to improve, of course, but remember that it's secondary.
boomer hands
Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
February 14 2012 04:12 GMT
#7
Yes Aegon!

And lol nttea, I'm not giving up on this. I have reminders on times I need to practice, dates I need to practice on certain areas (ZvZ, ZvP, ZvT, I devote 1 day a week to getting a practice partner of the opposite race of a bit higher skill level and just trying different things or modifying/tweaking builds slightly to optomise my play, and to get better). I really am not giving up on this. And not very intelligent? I'm in the gifted program getting high school credits, with straight A's.. Next year I'm going to a strictly gifted High School (stanton, in florida, look at it) in the IB program. I realize now just how important school is.
"In solitude, we are least alone"
Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
February 14 2012 04:16 GMT
#8
Dub - 14.
seRapH - Many many many people have told me this, and they know more about it then I do, but I KNOW I won't give up on this, unless my grades start to drop, then I'll take a bit of time off of starcraft and resume it again.

Im not trying to meet a deadline on this pro thing. I'm hoping to maybe make a name for myself early HoTS, but who knows, maybe later. I just know that most pros say the most important thing is knowing how much effort is going to be needed for this, and I realize that I won't make a name for myself in the near future. I'm setting a goal: HoTS, that's all I can say as of now.
"In solitude, we are least alone"
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 14 2012 04:17 GMT
#9
Remember, it does not matter if you are in GrandMaster's League on the Korean Server when you are in the D- league in high school.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
February 14 2012 04:20 GMT
#10
On February 14 2012 13:17 Bagration wrote:
Remember, it does not matter if you are in GrandMaster's League on the Korean Server when you are in the D- league in high school.


I hear that loud and clear.
"In solitude, we are least alone"
neSix
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1772 Posts
February 14 2012 04:26 GMT
#11
I won't comment on whether or not I agree with your decisions, but I will add a few points for you to consider:

There is a pretty famous post that was made on TL years ago by a young man of the name (Z)Kolll. He posted about how he'd become A in BW after only a year of practice (which, in case you didn't play BW is absolutely incredible... think the equivalent of being Grandmaster on SEA server after 3 months of playing to give you a ballpark). Most of the users on TL ripped him apart for "making it up" until he really made a name for himself in the international scene. Kolll's story is an exception... a very rare exception. But it is proof nevertheless that with lots of talent and hard work, anything is possible.

I also think it's worth noting that being intelligent means more than just getting good grades. Just because you're on honor roll doesn't mean you are too smart to make bad decisions. Be very careful with how you spend your time as it will undoubtedly shape the person you will become in the future.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
February 14 2012 04:29 GMT
#12
yup studying is good

School is pretty important just find something you like and do it, hopefully one day you can involve video games in your scholarly work. Im writing a thesis on aggression in video games (trashtalking specifically)
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
February 14 2012 04:31 GMT
#13
On February 14 2012 13:26 neSix wrote:
I won't comment on whether or not I agree with your decisions, but I will add a few points for you to consider:

There is a pretty famous post that was made on TL years ago by a young man of the name (Z)Kolll. He posted about how he'd become A in BW after only a year of practice (which, in case you didn't play BW is absolutely incredible... think the equivalent of being Grandmaster on SEA server after 3 months of playing to give you a ballpark). Most of the users on TL ripped him apart for "making it up" until he really made a name for himself in the international scene. Kolll's story is an exception... a very rare exception. But it is proof nevertheless that with lots of talent and hard work, anything is possible.

I also think it's worth noting that being intelligent means more than just getting good grades. Just because you're on honor roll doesn't mean you are too smart to make bad decisions. Be very careful with how you spend your time as it will undoubtedly shape the person you will become in the future.


Thanks for your input! Yes, I played BW at around 8 years old (D- on iccup lol)
I'm not really giving a deadline, the main thing I'm trying to keep here is a schedule that I don't modify, at all. On spring break, I'm going to a friend who plays house for the full week, to do nothing but practice. I cannot stress enough at how much Kennegits comments on my last blog really opened my eyes to the world around me. I realize that school is ridiculously important, and it will always come before Starcraft, but I feel like with a good schedule I can do this. As time goes on, I set a buffer area where I could possibly practice more on some weekdays. I think with a planned out schedule and reminders, this can really happen while balancing school.
"In solitude, we are least alone"
Wampaibist
Profile Joined July 2010
United States478 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 04:42:19
February 14 2012 04:35 GMT
#14
On February 14 2012 13:11 seRapH wrote:
I don't like to be harsh, but the simple truth is that you're not going to become a progamer. You won't ever make it to korea. In all likelihood you won't even be a relevant name in the foreign scene. The skill gap between you and the pros is much wider than you think, and no amount of practice will get you there. It may seem unreal, but better players than you have tried. People who were smarter than you, who practiced more, who had more support and who were more talented have tried and failed. They fell back on their schooling and concentrated on their studies. You're not going to do better.

If you really want to be a presence in the starcraft community, this website is a great place to start. You don't have to be good at the game, you can just be entertaining, or learn to program and make something useful for us, or if you're an artist draw something. But please don't waste your life chasing an impossible dream. If you're telling the truth about your grades then that's great, keep it up, but don't see starcraft as anything more than a hobby. That's not to say you shouldn't keep trying to improve, of course, but remember that it's secondary.


I disagree, someone should always chase their dreams. Don't doubt him its not impossible, but its important to stay moderate in what you do, and school is important.

no matter what they say dood your heart is your own; don't let the bitter hearts hold you back. But like you already know school is important!
Alisera
Profile Joined June 2011
United States71 Posts
February 14 2012 04:37 GMT
#15
On February 14 2012 12:58 Frostfire wrote:
Things I lied about (honestly)


This made me chuckle a bit. Good luck though! You seem like you are trying hard and reaching your goals! =D
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 14 2012 04:40 GMT
#16
You're obviously dead set on this and nothing I say will sway you, but you need to understand the main cost isn't the effort you have to put in, it's the time you're trading away that you could be spending with your friends, making memories that'll last your lifetime. It's time that you could be spending being with your family, enjoying your world, and just being a kid. Because this is time that isn't coming back. When you spend 8+ hours a day practicing for something that very well may never happen, it's a very, very big risk, and now I can only hope you don't regret it in a few years.

The story above about Kolll is missing a few parts. The first being that Kolll was a really high level War3 player before coming to broodwar, and then he soared to B- in a matter of months. Despite a 4th place finish in WCG, losing only to koreans, Kolll could barely compete in TSL2, getting knocked out in the Ro16. And this kid was considered a prodigy. Now Kolll's practically disappeared off the face of the earth.
boomer hands
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 14 2012 04:44 GMT
#17
On February 14 2012 13:40 seRapH wrote:
You're obviously dead set on this and nothing I say will sway you, but you need to understand the main cost isn't the effort you have to put in, it's the time you're trading away that you could be spending with your friends, making memories that'll last your lifetime. It's time that you could be spending being with your family, enjoying your world, and just being a kid. Because this is time that isn't coming back. When you spend 8+ hours a day practicing for something that very well may never happen, it's a very, very big risk, and now I can only hope you don't regret it in a few years.

The story above about Kolll is missing a few parts. The first being that Kolll was a really high level War3 player before coming to broodwar, and then he soared to B- in a matter of months. Despite a 4th place finish in WCG, losing only to koreans, Kolll could barely compete in TSL2, getting knocked out in the Ro16. And this kid was considered a prodigy. Now Kolll's practically disappeared off the face of the earth.

kolll is still playing bw

Best advice I can give is play for fun. If you find yourself consistently raging and wanting to quit before even getting close to GM it's probably not for you. People are SC2 pros for the love of the game, most of them - a true love for competition. If you're looking for efame or money its one of the most unrewarding things there is.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Jestalt
Profile Joined November 2011
United States28 Posts
February 14 2012 04:48 GMT
#18
On February 14 2012 13:11 seRapH wrote:
...The skill gap between you and the pros is much wider than you think, and no amount of practice will get you there...


How improving works. I don't think you understand it.
Know thyself.
Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
February 14 2012 04:48 GMT
#19
On February 14 2012 13:44 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 13:40 seRapH wrote:
You're obviously dead set on this and nothing I say will sway you, but you need to understand the main cost isn't the effort you have to put in, it's the time you're trading away that you could be spending with your friends, making memories that'll last your lifetime. It's time that you could be spending being with your family, enjoying your world, and just being a kid. Because this is time that isn't coming back. When you spend 8+ hours a day practicing for something that very well may never happen, it's a very, very big risk, and now I can only hope you don't regret it in a few years.

The story above about Kolll is missing a few parts. The first being that Kolll was a really high level War3 player before coming to broodwar, and then he soared to B- in a matter of months. Despite a 4th place finish in WCG, losing only to koreans, Kolll could barely compete in TSL2, getting knocked out in the Ro16. And this kid was considered a prodigy. Now Kolll's practically disappeared off the face of the earth.

kolll is still playing bw

Best advice I can give is play for fun. If you find yourself consistently raging and wanting to quit before even getting close to GM it's probably not for you. People are SC2 pros for the love of the game, most of them - a true love for competition. If you're looking for efame or money its one of the most unrewarding things there is.


For the first few days after trying not to BM, ever, I found it hard, now I realize that I should blame everything on my play (as I am only plat) and I can now with a clear head study my replays.
"In solitude, we are least alone"
Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
February 14 2012 04:50 GMT
#20
seRapH - Heres the best part, my dad is an avid gamer (Plays WoW a TON and has a 3v3 PvP arena team that he plays with every night for hours) and my best friend from since I was born plays sc2 and is my same exact level. I go to his house almost every weekend and we play together for days, and have the best time ever. I'm so lucky to have this.
"In solitude, we are least alone"
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