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Switzerland812 Posts
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
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ePLocust
United States587 Posts
On February 13 2012 17:30 Spieltor wrote: I'll go ahead and judge you. raging and breaking stuff when you aren't even a "pro" probably means that you're not really doing anything else big in your life because you put so much. There's truth to the buddhist saying that you should not express constant anger, unlike one time events. If you refrain from expressing it and control it, it will eventually diminish. Raging has nothing to do with being a pro or not... If someone rages it means they put value into the time that they spend playing the game. They valuE the time they spend trying to improve. I rage because I'll hit some kid on the ladder that just does weird all ins all day because they work to a point because theyre weird and people don't know to react. It's people like that that make me very angry. It's because they're riding the coat tails of some random ass build to somewhere I'm legitimately working my ass off at the game trying to get to. I personally will not try and judge someone by their rank but rather by how they play the game. If all they do is some gimmicky build that works because it's so weird and not because of the players skill behind it I won't think all that highly of them as a player. But if someone is making their way on strong mechanics and decision making rather than a build that's the player that I would want to play for me coming from a managers perspective. Don't tell me because I'm not pro that I have no right to rage at the game, my opponents, and myself. Ranking =/= passion for the game. Personally I am passionate about the game but I just can't handle the stress I put onto myself when I go and play. I expect far too much from myself and I end up getting more angry at myself than the idiots on ladder doing their fancy little gimmicks. | ||
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Azera
3800 Posts
What happens when you can't find your fun? Same thing when a rattle gets taken away from a baby, it cries. You are a baby, StarCraft II is your rattle. Stop being so serious about this game at get angry at random "idiots" on the ladder. They are strangers that you have met online. Lost to a bullshit strategy? Probably because you were playing bullshit yourself. So when you are playing like shit, don't continue playing more. Too much methane isn't good. I never rage in SC, it's fucking retarded and immature. I'm a 15 year old and I know getting so angry to the point that you break stuff that costs money is childish. You're childish and immature. Your life doesn't even revolve around playing this game. Why do you even impose "standards" on yourself? The only standard you should impose on yourself when playing SC is to have fun. Have fun losing, have fun winning. Pissed off by how others play the game? I'm pissed off that you can't stop seemingly "bullshit" strategies. If you can't stop these bad strategies that what does that say about your strategy then huh? I can say the same thing about people like you. I go on ladder all the time and use some random strategy but because this randomfag doesn't even know how to stop it and just cries imbalance instead of trying to LEARN, then rages hardcore, it makes me fucking PISSED. Ok fine, let's say you didn't have any flaws on your part in terms of strategy. You went your usual strategy at the start of the game. Wow, you didn't even get supply blocked once and you were constantly building SCVs, your macro was chugging alone perfectly. You know you're going to win the game. Everything was going so well. But then, a million, invincible units arrive at the front of your base and the opponent bludgeons you over the head with sheer power. See the point I'm getting through here? Your strategy simply got beat. Don't even think about the player behind the strategy, the only important thing is, that there was a strategy that was better than yours. Could you have beaten said strategy? Maybe if you expanded your own game knowledge, awareness, etc. Goddamit, these ladder rants, "I quit" bullshit really grinds my gears. If it was Huk, TLO, or a progamer complaining about losing to random people on ladder I can understand because that's like an Astrophysicist losing to a 7 year old in reciting the planets in our solar system in order. It's a game, and you're a motherfucking casual gamer. Good for you that you quit anyway, you clearly don't know how to manage your anger and continuing to play sc2 will probably be detrimental to your mental health. | ||
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VenomBRA
Netherlands168 Posts
"It's just a game" Did you ask your friends for some 1:1 coaching/practice games? Maybe have a third friend observing the game to give better feedback, without having to go through replays. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On February 13 2012 13:28 Kamais Ookin wrote: SC2 is a shit-fuck balls game. I get all-in'd almost every game. Late game is frowned upon and I'm sick of nerfs coming around every month making things even worst. Fuck this, it's all about switching back to brood war and only watching pro players in SC2. I think the same thing. I had more fun playing BW at D+ than I do playing SC2 at high Diamond. -_- | ||
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ePLocust
United States587 Posts
On February 13 2012 20:06 Azera wrote: I think your reasons are complete fucking bullshit to be honest. The way I see it, is that you bought StarCraft II , a game, to have fun, to enjoy it. And unless you're some masochist or bought the game to NOT have fun, you find victories - stomping some online "kid" as fun. So what happens when you lose? You don't have fun anymore. You then queue up more and more games desperate to find some fun. What happens when you can't find your fun? Same thing when a rattle gets taken away from a baby, it cries. You are a baby, StarCraft II is your rattle. Stop being so serious about this game at get angry at random "idiots" on the ladder. They are strangers that you have met online. Lost to a bullshit strategy? Probably because you were playing bullshit yourself. So when you are playing like shit, don't continue playing more. Too much methane isn't good. I never rage in SC, it's fucking retarded and immature. I'm a 15 year old and I know getting so angry to the point that you break stuff that costs money is childish. You're childish and immature. Your life doesn't even revolve around playing this game. Why do you even impose "standards" on yourself? The only standard you should impose on yourself when playing SC is to have fun. Have fun losing, have fun winning. Pissed off by how others play the game? I'm pissed off that you can't stop seemingly "bullshit" strategies. If you can't stop these bad strategies that what does that say about your strategy then huh? I can say the same thing about people like you. I go on ladder all the time and use some random strategy but because this randomfag doesn't even know how to stop it and just cries imbalance instead of trying to LEARN, then rages hardcore, it makes me fucking PISSED. Ok fine, let's say you didn't have any flaws on your part in terms of strategy. You went your usual strategy at the start of the game. Wow, you didn't even get supply blocked once and you were constantly building SCVs, your macro was chugging alone perfectly. You know you're going to win the game. Everything was going so well. But then, a million, invincible units arrive at the front of your base and the opponent bludgeons you over the head with sheer power. See the point I'm getting through here? Your strategy simply got beat. Don't even think about the player behind the strategy, the only important thing is, that there was a strategy that was better than yours. Could you have beaten said strategy? Maybe if you expanded your own game knowledge, awareness, etc. Goddamit, these ladder rants, "I quit" bullshit really grinds my gears. If it was Huk, TLO, or a progamer complaining about losing to random people on ladder I can understand because that's like an Astrophysicist losing to a 7 year old in reciting the planets in our solar system in order. It's a game, and you're a motherfucking casual gamer. Good for you that you quit anyway, you clearly don't know how to manage your anger and continuing to play sc2 will probably be detrimental to your mental health. Let me guess you're some 15 year old kid that's sitting at high masters and you don't actually understand how laddering in diamond works. These "bullshit" strategies are senseless builds that are "made up" by the people who use them. You can't understand frustration until you face something that is so god damn stupid it works and wins. I am not the only one that thinks of it like this. Expanding my game knowledge would actually just mean I would lose to these builds even more because they don't make sense if you look at them. There are so many people who get away with these builds and think they're better for it. I remember watching Tyler laddering up his EU account through diamond/mid-masters. He went up against this random mid masters EU player that did something so stupid, something that just doesn't make sense and beat Tyler. Did he out strategy Tyler or was it just so stupid that it works. Also, calling someone childish for getting frustrated at this situation is absolutely senseless. You can't possibly understand the feeling unless you have actually gone through it for months like I have. Yes I can learn how to beat said weird "stupid" builds and woo I know how to beat them now. Guess what. I'm never going to see it again. I'm never going to have the opportunity to crush the idiot again. It's very likely that you will never see some of the strats you see in diamond/low-mid masters more than once. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:22 ePLocust wrote: Let me guess you're some 15 year old kid that's sitting at high masters and you don't actually understand how laddering in diamond works. These "bullshit" strategies are senseless builds that are "made up" by the people who use them. You can't understand frustration until you face something that is so god damn stupid it works and wins. I am not the only one that thinks of it like this. Expanding my game knowledge would actually just mean I would lose to these builds even more because they don't make sense if you look at them. There are so many people who get away with these builds and think they're better for it. I remember watching Tyler laddering up his EU account through diamond/mid-masters. He went up against this random mid masters EU player that did something so stupid, something that just doesn't make sense and beat Tyler. Did he out strategy Tyler or was it just so stupid that it works. Also, calling someone childish for getting frustrated at this situation is absolutely senseless. You can't possibly understand the feeling unless you have actually gone through it for months like I have. Yes I can learn how to beat said weird "stupid" builds and woo I know how to beat them now. Guess what. I'm never going to see it again. I'm never going to have the opportunity to crush the idiot again. It's very likely that you will never see some of the strats you see in diamond/low-mid masters more than once. This sounds like QQ-ing to me. There is a reason that Goody has done as well as he has; he does unexpected and irregular builds. Maybe the reason people are doing so well with "stupid" builds is because players like you are stuck in some static mindset about how this game should work. I think even if some pro players spent more time learning to counter "stupid" builds, Goody would not be as effective of a player as he is. Also, I would point out that if Azera is at high masters, he obviously had to go through diamond to get there. | ||
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RBKeys
Canada196 Posts
Just don't take it so seriously and find the fun! | ||
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
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ePLocust
United States587 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:31 TheToast wrote: This sounds like QQ-ing to me. There is a reason that Goody has done as well as he has; he does unexpected and irregular builds. Maybe the reason people are doing so well with "stupid" builds is because players like you are stuck in some static mindset about how this game should work. I think even if some pro players spent more time learning to counter "stupid" builds, Goody would not be as effective of a player as he is. Also, I would point out that if Azera is at high masters, he obviously had to go through diamond to get there. Yes I'm kind of QQing here. Also the level of stupidness out does what Goody does. I've seen him play but he doesn't do weird like the people in diamond do. Also if he's been at the top since the beginning then he hasn't had to go through as much of this shit as others. I've been stuck here for months. I consider myself to have higher than average game knowledge and it's just frustrating for me. Frustrating enough to be done playing at this level. | ||
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gn0m
Sweden302 Posts
Anyway, if you get so upset about losing games, I believe it is a good thing to quit. | ||
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Azera
3800 Posts
On February 14 2012 04:41 gn0m wrote: These builds you are losing to are not standard because they are bad. If you lose to weird builds, your probably have a pretty bad game knowledge, otherwise you would be able to identify the weaknesses of these builds. Anyway, if you get so upset about losing games, I believe it is a good thing to quit. Exactly. This is such bullshit. You do not dictate what is bullshit or not. Sounds like you don't even want to put in your own effort to beat the bullshit build because you will never see it again. That's how things work. | ||
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Bijan
United States286 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:22 ePLocust wrote: These "bullshit" strategies are senseless builds that are "made up" by the people who use them. You can't understand frustration until you face something that is so god damn stupid it works and wins. I am not the only one that thinks of it like this. Expanding my game knowledge would actually just mean I would lose to these builds even more because they don't make sense if you look at them. This right here is the crux of your entire problem. If the strategy works, then it makes sense. Either you're not seeing why their build works, or you're not correctly analyzing what you failed to do to stop the build. Starcraft has very specific rules, its more of a science than an art. If you go into games with the mindset that their are ridiculous, nonsensical builds that will destroy you no matter what you do, then of course you're going to be frustrated because it will feel like banging your head against a wall every time you hit that ladder button. Get out of this mode of thinking, understand that you lost for a reason, and maybe you can work towards curbing your frustration. Edit: Also, I think its presumptuous to think that there is a certain amount of time that it should take to get you to the next level. Everyone learns at a different speed and has different weaknesses. Maybe you haven't properly identified some of the chinks in your play style, or maybe you just aren't practicing enough. For some people this kind of stuff comes naturally and they rocket straight to masters, but I refuse to believe that masters league is unattainable for anyone who puts their mind to it. Maybe you also need to reevaluate a realistic time-frame for reaching your goal. | ||
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
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