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Sated
England4983 Posts
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wwJd)El_Mojjo
Sweden173 Posts
Oh wait... =) | ||
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Flanagan
United States166 Posts
My point is, your PvP doesn't have to be expansive. Just figure out one build (a short one if PvP isn't "fun," do the build), get the 8 starcraft minutes out of the way. | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
I have the same sentiments though. | ||
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
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mrGRAPE
Singapore293 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
one thing tho, when people say "go play custom games" i dont think they mean random custom games, but customs with practice partners, which are pretty easy to find. Also I've actually found PvP to be really fun now tho, the whole dynamic for example in blink vs robo wars is very intense and makes for cool games to play. Unfortunately yesterday I only got matched up vs protosses on tal darim.. T_T So yeah if you dont enjoy a matchup, become good at it, then it will be more fun ^^ race picking would be amazing though of course | ||
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kanada
Canada255 Posts
On February 01 2012 22:36 wwJd)El_Mojjo wrote: If I could racepick I would play random in every game. Oh wait... =) I thought this was someone who has difficulty picking a race and therefore must random, i guess not  | ||
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England4983 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299837 Ideally PvT should be there instead of TvT, but that doesn't seem to be the case yet. edit: Funny to note is that replacing ZvP with TvP would - in the moment - also work well, so... just playing Terran is pretty close to optimal race-picking vs each race. Interesting. | ||
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ETisME
12448 Posts
PvP is almost only about 4 gate but ZvZ at the very least has some different variations of openings and style. (I would totally veto out zvp through, god, the amount of x-gate all-in is unbelievably high, at least 80% of the toss I face are doing it) | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
'Oh. OH. I have to play this match up! Shit!' I lost 2 without having any idea what to do, then I googled it and watched Destiny's 'Unbeatable ZvZ Build'. Tried it once and it won easily, and ever since then I've just gone with that. Works pretty fucking well to be fair. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On February 01 2012 23:24 ETisME wrote: ZvZ is better than PvP for sure. PvP is almost only about 4 gate but ZvZ at the very least has some different variations of openings and style. (I would totally veto out zvp through, god, the amount of x-gate all-in is unbelievably high, at least 80% of the toss I face are doing it) lol plz what are you talking about... 4 gate is so easy to hold on all maps with a ramp | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
He was surprisingly successful. | ||
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mrGRAPE
Singapore293 Posts
On February 01 2012 23:37 Dfgj wrote: Had a friend who just 6pooled every ZvZ and played normally in the other matchups. He was surprisingly successful. I gotta try this someday. | ||
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
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Groovy112
Lithuania18 Posts
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Ixtlilton
United States67 Posts
Strangely enough though as opposed to you I actually really enjoy pvp and only really lose if I go 1 gate robo and they do a phoenix build or if they just have godly blink micro. That said I also really like tvp so my racepick would probably be 50/50 tvp/pvp, tvz, and pvt. | ||
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bITt.mAN
Switzerland3693 Posts
That being said, I can understand your disdain. ... it is Protoss afterall <: Yea I wish you could race-pick in SCII too, then I'd baneling bust T every game (: | ||
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Gator
United States3432 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10170 Posts
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ViumMaster
Denmark25 Posts
I play protoss as well, and i hate pvp as hell. I've played 2250 ladder games or something, and i'm always 4-gating in pvp and have done it for almost a year. It's a bit time-wasting, but for some reason find it very good for practicing micro, and 4gate still works in mid masters so why not? Another thing i did to have more fun with improving at starcraft 2, was to join a Clan. Here you get practice partners (if the clan is big enough to have players at your level), and therefore very efficient improvements on the game can be made. I do think, that practice partners alone is not a solution alone, since a balance between playing people you know, and people who does a lot of different stuff (cheese included) would be the best imo. - so yeah: BLIZZARD, PLEASE GIVE US A RACE PREFERENCES BUTTON! - to make laddering more fun and efficient for learning as well. | ||
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England4983 Posts
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Azera
3800 Posts
Maybe some TvZ as well =) | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On February 01 2012 23:37 Dfgj wrote: Had a friend who just 6pooled every ZvZ and played normally in the other matchups. He was surprisingly successful. Is his name LastShadow? | ||
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Selendis
Australia509 Posts
On February 01 2012 22:54 ReketSomething wrote: 2 gate proxy ultimate build pvp. I have the same sentiments though. What this guy said. Actually 2 gate proxy (which i believe you mentioned you already do) is very very successful on large maps where your opponent doesn't scout until late (>12gate). It's a garuanteed win if your micro is decent If you really do want to play standard though, then just play reactively. If you see high energy on their nexus, assume its a 4gate and do your own defensive 4 gate, if you see double gassing get a robo quick and if you see them expand go kill it and teach them why you NEVER EVER expand in PvP. EZ PZ And to answer your question OP... if I could racepick I would be tempted to go PvT every game... But I wouldn't because it wouldn't help me become a better playe. | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
looooooooooooool He switched back to T last time I checked however! I would probably play ZvP instead of TvP or just outright ban the matchup. I don't truly struggle with it, its just a really dumb matchup which shows the most glaring flaws of SC2 in it. Love my TvZ and TvT though! | ||
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