On December 17 2011 11:09 Bibbit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 11:02 Clbull wrote:
Lovely, my blog gets (undeservingly) swarmed with 1 star ratings.
Why do you hate me, TL? What have I ever done to you to deserve idiots on my last post trashing me with things like "THIS IS WHY YOUR LADDER BLOG SUCKS LOL"
I gave you a rating so it would let me see your ratings (1 star ofc, it just felt right given the circumstances), and it turns out you only had two 1 star ratings when you complained. Kinda funny in a way.
Anyway, I find it pretty weird how I was the one who wrote the big "stfu with your ladder blog" thing, but I'm usually pretty nice and (try to be helpful) when I see them. : )
Edit: OH you're that jackass who I tried to help last time but got really pissy about the anti-ladder blog blogblog ! Hey man !
On November 26 2011 12:25 Clbull wrote:I really dunno how to reply to somebody who just merely links a ladder blog bashing post made by another player on a ladder blog in an attempt to moronically bash it, but let me make these points.
1.This sort of statement does describe most low level ladder games but it's mentally retarded to just post this on a blog that's mostly just me trying to hammer down a build order, as in putting in the effort to improve my macro through repetition. Yes, it's not me saying "HAY GUISE, HERE'S MY SUCKY LADDER STINT"
Show nested quote +There’s nothing to learn from them, they’re either you rushing and winning in 6 minutes or you getting rushed and losing in 6 minutes, or, at best, they’re a long “epic” game that is actually two people sitting on their ass for 40 minutes and then a-moving at each other.
Yeah, that didn't really describe 3 of the 4 practice games I had.
As I said, game 1 involved me fucking up a timing considerably through both moderate supply blockages and not attacking the correct base and letting my opponent get a literal "Roach deathball" on 3 bases to counterattack me to death. It was effectively a macro game with 2 battles, not one.
Game 2 involved me trying to attack with a Stargate timing, failing to get the third hatchery down without losing a Void Ray and then being at the mercy of pure roach hydra on 3 base because of both my lack of production and tech and because of my greediness/retardation to try and take the gold while I had lost almost my whole army.
Game 3 was probably accurate as far as that description goes. I wasn't advertising it as an "epic game" but rather a colossally fucked up 2 base colossus timing, mainly balls'd up due to my shitty micro and pre-occupation with clearing the XNWs in order to try and hide my colossus (and then losing my whole army as a result.)
As for Game 4, yes, a 3 pylon blockade was cheese, but it didn't really succeed, considering I got counter-cheesed by a 1 base nydus. That's already more interesting than a game that's just two maxed armies clashing and the winner of the engagement winning the game.
2. On the "shitty writer" point, I used to write ladder/game improvement blogs with a huge synopsis on games and replay analysis, but I felt more like I was writing synopses on shitty play than actually practicing. That's why I tried to shorten things down considerably.
It takes time to write interesting shit. Lots and lots of time.Do you honestly think that these brilliant ladder blog posts mentioned are written out of the blue in the space of 15 minutes by geniuses? Nope.
Obviously while some of the captions are probably made up on the spot in an amusing style, getting screenshots of interesting moments and game analysis takes MUCH longer.
As for if they include replays or replay packs with their posts.... there's the issue of uploading them all to a site like say.... sc2replayed, drop.sc etc, or in the case of replay packs having to deal with horrible file hosting sites like Megaupload and Rapidshare etc.
Show nested quote +So you just want to share your progress as a player. Innocent enough, right? But you can’t just upload a bunch of replays from that “sick practice session with your bro who’s totally in platinum, man” and expect anyone with the capacity to change to page not to. If you played a great game in particular, write a battle report or something. If you dont know, all that means is taking screenshots from the game and using (interesting) comments to tell the story of the game. Hell, even if the game isn’t great, you can make it great.
Perhaps one of the best known battle reports is the story of Proberto, which you can find here. It’s BW, which some of you may not be too familiar with, but go ahead and read it anyway. I’ll wait.
Great. See how unspectacular that game was? But Chef is an amazing writer, so he made the game great. That’s what you, Mr. Ladder Blogger, need to do. I’ve done it myself several times, all shameless linked here. If I, a person without an ounce of funny inside my entire being, can write battle reports about mediocre, low level games and have them be well received, you can do. Just stop being lazy and do it.
While I’m at it, I gotta shout out Gheed for perhaps exemplifying this point best. The f**ker just sits there and worker rushes people. Doesn’t exactly make for the most interesting games in the universe. But Gheed is funny as hell and he makes it work. Find a sample of his adventures here.
I don't exactly want to drop f-bombs everywhere, but I suppose the replay screenshots and funny/amusing/interesting captions are a good way to engage the reader. I will note this down in future progress blogs.
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