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Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
November 28 2011 23:27 GMT
#21
I didn't know about the map preview thing! Thanks! The only map I know a little about is destination and lost temple, destination because the only memorable game to me of the bo3 between CombatEz and Chill was on it, and Lost Temple because it's Lost Temple.
"In solitude, we are least alone"
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11367 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 23:32:03
November 28 2011 23:29 GMT
#22
On November 29 2011 08:20 Frostfire wrote:
I meant maps to install/download whatever, I'm new so I don't know much, I just know I've seen people playing on maps I can't seem to find Dx. Another thing I hate so far about this game is the damned blacked out fog of war! If I'm new, how am I supposed to know where my opponent spawns?! The good thing about sc2 is that even with blacked out fog of war there is a map preview so I can see all the spawn positions rofl.

Edit: Even if there was blacked out fog of war *


Go to iCCup. They have a big button that says How to Start or something like that. You download iCCup, but they also have a map-pack to download.

Whenever I add a map to my repetoire, I just play against the computer a couple times to get a feel for it and then start laddering. If you want to find games in a hurry, the big 3 seem to be Fighting Spirit, Python, and Destination (and sometimes Tau Crossing?). However, I've just started playing Match Point and Crossfire and really have been enjoying it

The nice thing about iCCup is you can focus in on one or two maps and play the hell out of them. So at the beginning, yeah that black fog is a nuisance, but it's a lot more easier to get good at an individual map than SC2 which will feed you random maps (despite downvoting.) You want to get better at Fighting Spirit? Just host it again and again and watch as people flock in.

(If you do host, you'll probably have to port forward, however. One of those things that is not mentioned anywhere on iCCup and yet is very necessary.)

Oh yeah. As another mentioned, in single player you can just use the cheat Black Sheep Wall to get rid of the fog to figure out what the map looks like.
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
November 28 2011 23:30 GMT
#23
Have you tried the campaign ? Why the mission are a bit dated in the gameplay, the story is pretty cool and it's an easier introduction to the game =)
As for the computer, its rush can be pretty scary, but he has 2 strat max so once you figure out a method...^^
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Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
November 28 2011 23:32 GMT
#24
I beat the Terran missions of the original. I tried to get into the zerg missions, and after beating like the first 4 (the last one I beat was the one where Kerrigan pops) I realized I hate the playstyle of the race and I wanted to play Terran again I really love science vessels, although accidently casting defense matrix with FOUR Science Vessels at once is extremely annoying >
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 28 2011 23:33 GMT
#25
ha ha ha

Yeah, Brood War doesn't really have training wheels. There's a lot of sources and content. You really have to get used to using hotkeys.

F1-F4 for screen markers in your base

ctrl+# for unit groups and key buildings (CC- unit groups, important buildings like comsat if Terran).

It will take some re-adjusting to get used to. =)
Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
November 28 2011 23:36 GMT
#26
What sucks is in Sc2 I always hotkey my CC on 5,in BW I keep seeting CC to 5 and just try to scan off of that D: now I'm kinda getting the hang of having comsats on 8,9 and 0, but since I'm only 14 my hands are stretching to hit those keys.
"In solitude, we are least alone"
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
November 28 2011 23:37 GMT
#27
man the bw community here is so much help....
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 23:41:17
November 28 2011 23:40 GMT
#28
On November 29 2011 08:36 Frostfire wrote:
What sucks is in Sc2 I always hotkey my CC on 5,in BW I keep seeting CC to 5 and just try to scan off of that D: now I'm kinda getting the hang of having comsats on 8,9 and 0, but since I'm only 14 my hands are stretching to hit those keys.

If that makes you feel better, Jaedong doesn't use is far away keys because his hands are too small. And yeah, you'll need adjustements from SC, but the thing is, mechanics are hard for everybody. Have you watched a few progames to get a feel of how the races are played at a high level ?
Edit : very happy to see a 14 years old try it and not reject the graphics :D
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Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
November 28 2011 23:42 GMT
#29
I only watched the Chill vs CombatEx showmatch cast by Day[9]. I literally have never seen any other matches. I don't judge games by their graphics haha, as long as they work and you can distinguish things from one another it's a good game to me (:
"In solitude, we are least alone"
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
November 28 2011 23:43 GMT
#30
On November 29 2011 08:36 Frostfire wrote:
What sucks is in Sc2 I always hotkey my CC on 5,in BW I keep seeting CC to 5 and just try to scan off of that D: now I'm kinda getting the hang of having comsats on 8,9 and 0, but since I'm only 14 my hands are stretching to hit those keys.

i got tiny hands too, can't even reach ctrl+6 comfortably in games xd you got a long ways to go, but I'm a perennial D and the game is still enjoyable for me! I just play with friends or play UMS, and follow the proscene, don't really play competitively hehe If you want to get better, lots of people willing to help you out with the basics on TL! Good luck!
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11367 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 23:48:14
November 28 2011 23:44 GMT
#31
On November 29 2011 08:36 Frostfire wrote:
What sucks is in Sc2 I always hotkey my CC on 5,in BW I keep seeting CC to 5 and just try to scan off of that D: now I'm kinda getting the hang of having comsats on 8,9 and 0, but since I'm only 14 my hands are stretching to hit those keys.


I don't main Terran, but to be honest, 0 to 's' is more than I can stretch too. Rather than trying to stretch, I just use pointer-pinky and move that extra inch to the left. But I don't know the proper way. I don't think there's many people that have fingers long enough to do it properly (without having bear paws.)

Edit
Only seen the Chill grudge match??? You need to check out a couple threads on recommended games- maybe Jangbi vs Fantasy or something. Or perhaps for English casting, some old GOMtv Tasteless casts.
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Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
November 28 2011 23:45 GMT
#32
In sc2 I main Zerg, and hotkey my queens 5+, once I get to like 8, it's really hard to inject D:
"In solitude, we are least alone"
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
November 28 2011 23:46 GMT
#33
the funny thing is that, when sc2 came out, i freakin motherfuckin loathed the queen inject "mechanic" which to me is completely utterly pointless part of gameplay. now sc2 players like yourself are feeling the same way about unit selection and macro :D
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Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
November 28 2011 23:52 GMT
#34
freakin motherfuckin
lololol, but anyway, I don't know I jsut got used to it cause that's what was there, I see a macro hatch without a queen and think of it as worthless
"In solitude, we are least alone"
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
November 28 2011 23:52 GMT
#35
Posts like this make my day everytime. <3
Atleast you know that its ctrl+# I thought it was shift+# and for the first two months played like a scrub, without hotkeys.
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 23:55:27
November 28 2011 23:53 GMT
#36
Oh, I remember Stylish has some very basic tips on hotkeys and stuff. this VOD is pretty helpful for Terran if I remember well :

I'd advise you to watch a few progames in each match up to, to see how each match up plays out. Maybe watch Sayle casting PL live.
And yeah, don't hesitate to ask for help, I'm sure many people would love to help you =)
Edit : and yeah I've seen that showmatch like 10 times and showed it to friends that don't play sc... <3 day9
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37041 Posts
November 28 2011 23:56 GMT
#37
ahahahahahah!!!!

Welcome to BW : ] This world is going to be SO DIFFERENT than SC2

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TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
November 29 2011 00:15 GMT
#38
On November 29 2011 08:16 Servius_Fulvius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 08:01 Frostfire wrote:
Hello TL,

I just bought and installed Brood War, due to everyone saying it's such a great game and I'm missing out if I don't play it.

THIS GAME IS FRIGHTENING. So much multitasking, no building multi-select, no auto mine, and the worst one to me is, NO BIG CONTROL GROUPS. If I wanna play Zerg, how the hell am I gonna send a force of more then 24 zerglings running in at a line into the scary Terran seige tank - bunker base?! I haven't installed any ladders yet, I still can't beat a computer with any of the races! I think I like Terran the most though, that sexy medic. I hate how you cant stim with a medic in your control group though! Hopefully I will get the hang of this scary game. Any tips about installing ladders, build orders, general strategy or unit counters would be much appreciated as I can't even beat the a.i!

I will keep updated on my progress


You send more than 24 zerglings using more than 2 hotkeys. Takes mad skillz.

Terran is usually regarded as the hardest race when starting. Either way, you're faced with a massive learning curve to competency. Getting D+ on iccup 2 summers ago required more hard work and practice than any of my sc2 promotions! Good luck!

D+ is basically mid masters in Sc2 lol. I was low D+ in Brood War (2100 points) and went immediately to diamond and then masters when it came out, and I don't pretend to be good at the game by any means.
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Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
November 29 2011 00:17 GMT
#39
I'm only low plat, I should be gold in sc2. Where would that put me?
"In solitude, we are least alone"
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
November 29 2011 00:18 GMT
#40
On November 29 2011 08:36 Frostfire wrote:
What sucks is in Sc2 I always hotkey my CC on 5,in BW I keep seeting CC to 5 and just try to scan off of that D: now I'm kinda getting the hang of having comsats on 8,9 and 0, but since I'm only 14 my hands are stretching to hit those keys.

I have very small hands too, but I played bw back when I was like 9 and my hands were even smaller. I learned to jump across the keyboard and accurately hit the far numbers. I use the right control key to bind stuff to them so there's no need to stretch and it becomes a matter of speed and accuracy instead. Now it's very easy for me to use them without much thought. I have no idea how long it may take to be learn how to do this, but it's something I pretty much had to learn in bw and you may want to consider doing it this way rather than stretching. Even now, I actually can't bind stuff to 9 and 0 without this method.
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