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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
Getting ahead in econ was so much more important than it is now! | ||
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Frostfire
United States419 Posts
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On November 29 2011 08:20 Frostfire wrote: I meant maps to install/download whatever, I'm new so I don't know much, I just know I've seen people playing on maps I can't seem to find Dx. Another thing I hate so far about this game is the damned blacked out fog of war! If I'm new, how am I supposed to know where my opponent spawns?! The good thing about sc2 is that even with blacked out fog of war there is a map preview so I can see all the spawn positions rofl. Edit: Even if there was blacked out fog of war * Good thing about iccup ladder is there is only 2 maps you need to know. Fighting Spirit and Python. haha. Fighting Spirit is just so good for straight up play, no fancy features, easy to get 3rd 4th 5th, that everyone plays on it. On November 29 2011 09:23 Frostfire wrote: Oh, about workers, is there any tricks I can do to remember to assign? Now I'll randomly look and see 2 SCVs sitting there. And how can I split my workers in the beginning faster? I heard you had to assign all 4 to individual places to mine, in stead of the 3/3 split I do in sc2 Send all your workers to mine and select each one individually and select a patch, there's no real trick to it, just gotta be fast. Even I stuff it up 50% of the time. | ||
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FFGenerations
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for split practice i 1000% recommend simply restarting the game 100 times , splitting your workers, then restarting again | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On November 29 2011 09:28 FFGenerations wrote: for splits, you can watch some pro replays to see what they're doing (or someone will tell you) for split practice i 1000% recommend simply restarting the game 100 times , splitting your workers, then restarting again I honestly wouldn't bother, its boring, it will get better with time and barely makes a difference. | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11603 Posts
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On November 29 2011 08:36 Frostfire wrote: What sucks is in Sc2 I always hotkey my CC on 5,in BW I keep seeting CC to 5 and just try to scan off of that D: now I'm kinda getting the hang of having comsats on 8,9 and 0, but since I'm only 14 my hands are stretching to hit those keys. If you use F3 for your CC instead (you are going to rally your scv anyway) you can free up closer hotkeys for your comsats. Or you can always make comsats 6,7 and not use 890. Just means you have to simcity better so you can click your starport without scrolling too much or put your starports on 89. | ||
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Frostfire
United States419 Posts
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On November 29 2011 09:36 Frostfire wrote: I also hate the fucking marine hotkey. .-. I'm the opposite actually lol, I hotkey my first few barracks on 678 which is much easier to access M than A. In the late game my pinkie gets tired from pressing A all the time, M is much more ergonomic :D On November 29 2011 09:38 corumjhaelen wrote: Marine, muta overlord, probe and pylon hotkey are just annoying as hell^^ Probe is good if you Nexus on 09. 0p9p is much faster than 4s5s. Corsair/Observer is O which makes stargate/robo on 8 really good too. Frees up 1234567 for groups. Also nothing worse than pressing V for an inject only to realise you have made overlords (or visa-versa), and maybe MMA killed his own CC because he wanted to make marines  | ||
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StarStruck
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On November 29 2011 08:42 Frostfire wrote: I only watched the Chill vs CombatEx showmatch cast by Day[9]. I literally have never seen any other matches. I don't judge games by their graphics haha, as long as they work and you can distinguish things from one another it's a good game to me (:If that's the case, then I certainly recommend you watch some VOD and possibly look for comments/analysis based on the matches (featured articles) or better yet if your up watch some Pro League and join the chat/LR thread as there are a lot of people who can tell you actually what happened in the match on the fly. That way you get to learn some of the basics and see what the pro's do right away. On November 29 2011 09:17 Frostfire wrote: I'm only low plat, I should be gold in sc2. Where would that put me? That's irrelevant at the moment. Right now you have to learn some of the basics, so that you aren't playing in the dark so much. =) | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28920 Posts
main piece of advice is, allllllllllways do something. do everything as fast as you can, all the time,and never stop doing something. | ||
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
On November 29 2011 09:17 Frostfire wrote: I'm only low plat, I should be gold in sc2. Where would that put me? It matter what you are in sc2, if you havent really played brood war before it's going to shock you because of things like control groups and automatic mining. You'll probably land up with the keyboard and mouse symbol (lower than D-) if you go into the ladder and cant even beat the computer. I've played masters who look like total noobs in bw because mechanics are a lot more important here. You could win games with just pure macro even if your strat made no sense what so ever. Get comfy with you could join a clan and practice with people there, or just play with the computer till you get comfortable while practicing a build a match up. Alternatively...you can create as many accounts as you can...so try to execute a build, if you go below a particular rank where no one wants to play, just create another account The funniest part of sc2 people playing broodwar is to watch terran go mass bio against toss | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On November 29 2011 08:16 Servius_Fulvius wrote: You send more than 24 zerglings using more than 2 hotkeys. Takes mad skillz. Terran is usually regarded as the hardest race when starting. Either way, you're faced with a massive learning curve to competency. Getting D+ on iccup 2 summers ago required more hard work and practice than any of my sc2 promotions! Good luck! Nope. Hand micro everything. Hotkey lurkers, mutas, (queens), defilers only On November 29 2011 10:25 dartoo wrote: It matter what you are in sc2, if you havent really played brood war before it's going to shock you because of things like control groups and automatic mining. You'll probably land up with the keyboard and mouse symbol (lower than D-) if you go into the ladder and cant even beat the computer. I've played masters who look like total noobs in bw because mechanics are a lot more important here. You could win games with just pure macro even if your strat made no sense what so ever. Get comfy with you could join a clan and practice with people there, or just play with the computer till you get comfortable while practicing a build a match up. Alternatively...you can create as many accounts as you can...so try to execute a build, if you go below a particular rank where no one wants to play, just create another account The funniest part of sc2 people playing broodwar is to watch terran go mass bio against toss To be fair, that's actually a really easy way to win a lot of TvPs ~D/D+ if you have good macro. Nobody knows how to play against it, and suddenly their 12 dragoons and 1 zealot dies to 2 control groups of mnm ^^ On November 29 2011 09:36 Frostfire wrote: I also hate the fucking marine hotkey. .-. Wait till you get a spire.... | ||
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
On November 29 2011 10:26 synapse wrote: Wait till you get a spire.... no one ACTUALLY goes 5sm6sm7sm though... always preselect 9 larvae and then spawn em all at the same time | ||
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
On November 29 2011 09:17 Frostfire wrote: I'm only low plat, I should be gold in sc2. Where would that put me? Very low D-. To OP: I'll be honest, it took me a good month of grinding iccup games for me to reach a solid D level. I was moving up to D+ but my macro wasn't flawless and it felt like it was taking forever so I kinda quit. BW requires a TON of commitment, because if you stop practicing for even a month you can slip pretty far (unless you're NonY, of course). You should also start watching proleague. It's actually on at a decent hour this year for some reason! And the more games you play on iccup/brain/fish, the more impressed you'll be by Flash and Bisu. Jaedong used to be crazy good as well but he's fallen off a bit lately after his transition/vacation to Team 8. You should be using all 10 of your hotkeys and all of your F-key screens (I think you can make 4). Also remember that you can shift+# to add units to a hotkey. Instead of #, select more units, ctrl+#. Just select more units and shift+#. Double tapping a hotkey centers the camera on the middle of the unit group. So if you have two mutas on opposite corners of the map (or a muta and a larva) and they're on the same hotkey, when you double tap (or maybe alt+tap too?) the center will move to the middle of the map. Usually it centers on the units because they are clumped when you actually use the hotkeys. And if you play P, use 0,9 for your Nexus so you can 0p9p. Some people use 9 for robo so they can 9o0p, but I find you don't really need that many observers. Also get used to jumping your hand around the keyboard. Build pylon is b->p, marines are m and zealot legspeed is l. | ||
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
On November 29 2011 10:26 synapse wrote: To be fair, that's actually a really easy way to win a lot of TvPs ~D/D+ if you have good macro. Nobody knows how to play against it, and suddenly their 12 dragoons and 1 zealot dies to 2 control groups of mnm ^^ Archons+zealots? Zealots and ht shuttles? Reavers? | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
Watch the proleague (good match in few hours!), watch some vods and old BW shows. | ||
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