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Update February 15: The track got signed, and it came out on Monday on Beatport! My first "official" release. Thanks to everyone who gave it a listen!
I won't entreat you to buy it, but here's a link if you're interested, or want proof.
http://www.beatport.com/track/trip-to-the-andromeda-galaxy-original-mix/3276945
http://soundcloud.com/khazedub/electrode-khaze-trip-to-the
I've posted several blogs about my dubstep / electro house production. Hopefully the one AFTER this one will be about the big success I had in subjecting my music to professional critique.
This track is a collaboration between me and a guy from California (Electrode, I linked his FB page on SoundCloud if you want to check him out - he does sweet electro house).
The song is pretty much exactly what I try to go for. At least, it represents one of the many feelings I try to capture in my music. It's melodic with "epic" chords and an electro feel (it is not traditional old school U.K. dubstep, no, but I respect and enjoy that style very much). I'd love to hear what you guys think, Electrode and I have worked really hard on this one!
For my other songs I SoundCloud I have downloads enabled. Since I sent this one to labels I don't want "unsolicited" copies out there. But, I don't really care about that, except I suppose I should in a professional capacity. If you like the song, PM me for a download link for the full version (this preview is half the song).
Thanks for listening!
http://soundcloud.com/khazedub/electrode-khaze-trip-to-the
Edit: Every play makes the track look better to a record company, and listening is an easy way to show support if you like it!
 
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Wow, really nice stuff :D What programs do you use? Hope you make it some where, sounds different than what I usually hear out of dubstep now a days.
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On November 25 2011 07:01 RUCoordinator wrote:
This shit is fire.
Thanks! 
On November 25 2011 07:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Wow, really nice stuff :D What programs do you use? Hope you make it some where, sounds different than what I usually hear out of dubstep now a days.
I use:
Ableton Live for arranging / writing / editing / effects
Native Instruments Massive for creating sounds
Izotope Ozone for mastering (record labels tend to master their own songs, so this is just for a "good enough" job to get it out there
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im not expert on dubstep but it sounds pretty nice, gl with the record label
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On November 25 2011 07:08 optical630 wrote:
im not expert on dubstep but it sounds pretty nice, gl with the record label
Thanks. Neither am I actually, so much of it is people arguing what dubstep actually is... I played guitar in melodic death metal bands for 6 years (you can see a video in one of my older blogs), and started producing 15 months ago. I just write notes that please my ear! And basslines that I hope will make people move.
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Wow i really like this man..
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On November 25 2011 07:16 FraCuS wrote:
1:00 was pretty epic lol
Hah thanks. The drops in mainstream dubstep definitely trend heavily towards "aaaaand...... DANCE NOW OMFG." And I figure it's alright to stick with the orthodoxy every now and then.
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I feel that you should work more on ironing out the transitions. After 1:58 and 2:38 I was pretty surprised to find myself where I was.
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On November 25 2011 07:32 Fontong wrote:
I feel that you should work more on ironing out the transitions. After 1:58 and 2:38 I was pretty surprised to find myself where I was.
Obviously I was going for the "oh this is so pretty and majestic now what just happened." But it's definitely hard to know how much "sense" a transition is going to make by the time you've heard it (literally) 100 times and changed it over and over again.
I think it often occurs with the genre, there are plenty of times I've been dancing in clubs and been like "...what?" I'll keep it in mind, thanks for giving it a thorough listen!
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Similar style to NiT GriT. Nice, my type of music ^_^
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On November 25 2011 07:49 FataLe wrote:
Similar style to NiT GriT. Nice, my type of music ^_^
That's a TL.netter right? I'll have to check his stuff out!
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not my preferred style of electronica, but still very good!
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I am liking it it has like an old school Nintendo kinda thing going on. GL
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On November 25 2011 07:55 Ancestral wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 07:49 FataLe wrote:
Similar style to NiT GriT. Nice, my type of music ^_^ That's a TL.netter right? I'll have to check his stuff out!
Lol, i'm pretty sure Grit is not on TL.
Your track is solid, I like the extra melodicness, which I always look for in dubstep.
Your bass is pretty uninteresting though, with dubstep being the hot genre it is now, every talented producer is pumping this stuff out. You really have to do something memorable to make any impression at all. Right now your bass isn't doing that, its low end is a bit weak and mostly it just doesn't sound unique or cool compared to 9million other bedroom dubstep projects. Really sit down with Massive and an effects chain and see if you can get a sound thats even a bit different and recognizable from what you've been hearing in other tracks, it is possible. Most of the real recent dubstep breakout artists have a signature bass sound that is instantly recognizable (at least until everyone else copies it). Hell you even have guys getting minor acclaim and signed like Dubsidia who literally can only do one unique bass apparently and just suck balls at actual track composition...lol
The only other thing is that I think you are abusing the stereo panning a bit, it sounds ok in headphones but its always better to use stereo with restraint. Otherwise it start sounding very funky when you play the track on, for instance, a set of widely spaced PA's at a show.
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Good tune over all, though, I would have liked to see your lead cut out at the last part of the breakdown, just before the drop, that would have the drop so much bigger. Also I miss some hats or something airy in the background, but then again im using shit headphones atm ^^
Anyway big ups, and keep it up!
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Not too bad, I like some of the core ideas, though from a composition perspective there are just waaaaaay too many parallels going on to make me really like it. The bass and lead doubling each other is fine to a degree, but too much of it and the sound becomes one dimensional and really bland. Also regarding the lead and foreground middle ground material I felt that there needed to be more layers, or more contrasting/nuanced elements to balance out the linear shape of the piece, as it stands now, it just feels like there's a hunk of stuff that is entirely too similar (melodically or timbrally) in shape and direction to really balance out the spectrum well. Does that make sense to you?
Keep it up though
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Absolutely loved it. Sounded great!
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On November 25 2011 08:53 sob3k wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 07:55 Ancestral wrote:On November 25 2011 07:49 FataLe wrote:
Similar style to NiT GriT. Nice, my type of music ^_^ That's a TL.netter right? I'll have to check his stuff out! Lol, i'm pretty sure Grit is not on TL. Your track is solid, I like the extra melodicness, which I always look for in dubstep. Your bass is pretty uninteresting though, with dubstep being the hot genre it is now, every talented producer is pumping this stuff out. You really have to do something memorable to make any impression at all. Right now your bass isn't doing that, its low end is a bit weak and mostly it just doesn't sound unique or cool compared to 9million other bedroom dubstep projects. Really sit down with Massive and an effects chain and see if you can get a sound thats even a bit different and recognizable from what you've been hearing in other tracks, it is possible. Most of the real recent dubstep breakout artists have a signature bass sound that is instantly recognizable (at least until everyone else copies it). Hell you even have guys getting minor acclaim and signed like Dubsidia who literally can only do one unique bass apparently and just suck balls at actual track composition...lol The only other thing is that I think you are abusing the stereo panning a bit, it sounds ok in headphones but its always better to use stereo with restraint. Otherwise it start sounding very funky when you play the track on, for instance, a set of widely spaced PA's at a show.
You're criticism is great; it's really detailed and tells me people really listen and appreciate music! In response (not defense, just response )
1. I've been told I use too little stereo panning before. It's definitely a line you have to straddle. With this one, I thought "no one shall make that criticism again!"
2. As far as interesting bass sounds, there's a trade-off between trying to be new and unique and making something you can be pretty sure people will like. I have two sounds that I really just haven't heard anywhere, but only one is in this song, and then only minimally. If you listen to my last 6 or 7 SoundCloud tracks though, you'll at least notice a pattern. Also, my brain is more melody-oriented, so that's why my songs are always "chiptuney," because when I have a sweet melody in mind I tend to neglect the sound. Some people like that, though. Trust me, though, I spend lots of time on synthesis and will only get better.
3. There ARE a lot of people making dubstep. And I think it takes several things to "make it": musical ability, live performance, promotion, personality (S-factor), and originality. I think my melody style (which is pretty consistent) is pretty unique, actually. But some parts are only MODESTLY unique, and what producer denies that he sometimes here's something and things "I am going to try to make that same sound." It's honestly a good learning experience.
Love that you took the time to write that out, I love constructive, considerate criticsm.
On November 25 2011 08:55 mcJ wrote:
Good tune over all, though, I would have liked to see your lead cut out at the last part of the breakdown, just before the drop, that would have the drop so much bigger. Also I miss some hats or something airy in the background, but then again im using shit headphones atm ^^
Anyway big ups, and keep it up!
When you can add any instrument any where you want, it can be easy to over do it. And you only have so much "volume" for every different sound and frequency range. I think I get the right amount of air for my style, but it's all a balance and a trade-off.
As far as the drop, you're right that that would have been more dramatic. I hadn't considered it, my thought process was "slow build, breakdown, and then a straight kick roll into the drop, ?????, profit." Good to know what people listen for though. And it's not always what producers hear in their own songs that they hear ad nauseum. Glad you enjoyed it for the most part.
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On November 25 2011 09:07 wo1fwood wrote:Not too bad, I like some of the core ideas, though from a composition perspective there are just waaaaaay too many parallels going on to make me really like it. The bass and lead doubling each other is fine to a degree, but too much of it and the sound becomes one dimensional and really bland. Also regarding the lead and foreground middle ground material I felt that there needed to be more layers, or more contrasting/nuanced elements to balance out the linear shape of the piece, as it stands now, it just feels like there's a hunk of stuff that is entirely too similar (melodically or timbrally) in shape and direction to really balance out the spectrum well. Does that make sense to you? Keep it up though
I think I get what you're saying. The actual parts of the song themselves are quite complicated rhythmically. The melody is also a full 16 bars long (4 bars for the chord progression, but the lead changes). It is repetitive, which is a requirement in dance music so people can get a feel for the track and, you know, dance. Too crazy = bad, too repetitive = bad, too simple = bad, not repetitive enough = bad. You don't want to say "listen, hey, you know everything that's going on and what will happen next, and it's easy to understand it all!" but you also don't want "listen, JUST TRY and figure out WTF is going on!"
Just like the amount of bass and ambiance, it's a spectrum of possibilities, some of which are stylistic, and some of which are musical or production fundamentals. I prefer vast landscapes of sound, a constantly evolving melody, and jagged basslines, but even with those things I sometimes make compromises because I wouldn't even like such a song if someone else wrote it. So I think what you're saying makes sense, and I definitely consider these things!
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oh you're khaze!
i have your mixtape on my itunes still and i get a song on shuffle sometimes
sick shit yo!
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Ey that's actually good. Nice job mate and good luck to your endeavors.
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Actually, if i was sending demos i wouldnt release the track to the public first. Track gets old before its released.
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Hi,
I really like your track. I do have one criticism though (I hope you don't mind). It really felt like there was a serious lack of low-end in the track. Obviously I don't have the actual file so I can't give more direct feedback on the frequency range/spectrograph, but it really sounded to me like everything was squished into the midrange in terms of bass.
For equipment, I was listening on a pair of Beyerdynamic 770DT pro (250ohm impedance) studio phones, an external 16bit HRT usb DAC, and a Shanling PH3000 headphone amplifier. Note: headphones are a bit too bass heavy to be considered reference class, but still fairly neutral.
PS: can I get the actual file?
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On November 25 2011 09:50 Fission wrote:
Hi,
I really like your track. I do have one criticism though (I hope you don't mind). It really felt like there was a serious lack of low-end in the track. Obviously I don't have the actual file so I can't give more direct feedback on the frequency range/spectrograph, but it really sounded to me like everything was squished into the midrange in terms of bass.
For equipment, I was listening on a pair of Beyerdynamic 770DT pro (250ohm impedance) studio phones, an external 16bit HRT usb DAC, and a Shanling PH3000 headphone amplifier. Note: headphones are a bit too bass heavy to be considered reference class, but still fairly neutral.
PS: can I get the actual file?
I keep the bass at an average of +12dB for the peak in the key of the song over a ~10 second period. This isn't really how you should mix, and I know that. This is just a quick master. It's the same "amount" of bass in the final master as a lot of commercial songs, but judging gross spectra of an entire track is neither scientific nor musical.
If it gets on a reputable label, they'll help with making sure the master is good, everything cuts through, nothing gets squashed, and it's fat. Until then, I think it gets the musical point across very well. But discerning ears such as yours can certainly tell it's not a pro master.
And the file is coming your way!
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On November 25 2011 09:53 Ancestral wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:46 Starparty wrote:
Actually, if i was sending demos i wouldnt release the track to the public first. Track gets old before its released. I'm not promoting it heavily or anything. Also, I'm not at all famous. I've DJ'ed a few times, and some people on TL recognize me from TL ( above), but this track probably won't get that many views just from my posting it a few places. The promotion effort will go way up if I get it on a label, and this isn't a one off. If the labels like this, I can write more like it! The REAL reason I'm posting, as I'm sure you understand, is because I'm excited We've talked about music a little bit on TL and I know you know more about the industry than I do, in pretty much every respect. But I don't think I'll dash my chances at fame by being giddy .
No, and you can always put different links here than the ones you send as a demo. What labels have you sent to? Big, small?
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On November 25 2011 06:58 Ancestral wrote:http://soundcloud.com/khazedub/electrode-khaze-trip-to-theI've posted several blogs about my dubstep / electro house production. Hopefully the one AFTER this one will be about the big success I had in subjecting my music to professional critique. This track is a collaboration between me and a guy from California (Electrode, I linked his FB page on SoundCloud if you want to check him out - he does sweet electro house). The song is pretty much exactly what I try to go for. At least, it represents one of the many feelings I try to capture in my music. It's melodic with "epic" chords and an electro feel (it is not traditional old school U.K. dubstep, no, but I respect and enjoy that style very much). I'd love to hear what you guys think, Electrode and I have worked really hard on this one! For my other songs I SoundCloud I have downloads enabled. Since I sent this one to labels I don't want "unsolicited" copies out there. But, I don't really care about that, except I suppose I should in a professional capacity. If you like the song, PM me for a download link for the full version (this preview is half the song). Thanks for listening! http://soundcloud.com/khazedub/electrode-khaze-trip-to-theEdit: Every play makes the track look better to a record company, and listening is an easy way to show support if you like it!
I thought this was just decent until that drop.
Then, chills.
This is not my favorite style of dubstep, and I doubt I'd be listening to this if you hadn't asked, but I can tell you've got skills. And the drop gave me chills. Fission mucking accomplished, I'd say.
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On November 25 2011 09:58 Starparty wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:53 Ancestral wrote:On November 25 2011 09:46 Starparty wrote:
Actually, if i was sending demos i wouldnt release the track to the public first. Track gets old before its released. I'm not promoting it heavily or anything. Also, I'm not at all famous. I've DJ'ed a few times, and some people on TL recognize me from TL ( above), but this track probably won't get that many views just from my posting it a few places. The promotion effort will go way up if I get it on a label, and this isn't a one off. If the labels like this, I can write more like it! The REAL reason I'm posting, as I'm sure you understand, is because I'm excited We've talked about music a little bit on TL and I know you know more about the industry than I do, in pretty much every respect. But I don't think I'll dash my chances at fame by being giddy . No, and you can always put different links here than the ones you send as a demo. What labels have you sent to? Big, small?
Medium, for the style. I'll PM you the names, just because I know nothing of business and don't want to mention a label if it gets on another one. Don't hesitate to pass a word onto them that you know this great artist, or mention it to any other labels if you've got ins 
On November 25 2011 10:00 Aylear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 06:58 Ancestral wrote:http://soundcloud.com/khazedub/electrode-khaze-trip-to-theI've posted several blogs about my dubstep / electro house production. Hopefully the one AFTER this one will be about the big success I had in subjecting my music to professional critique. This track is a collaboration between me and a guy from California (Electrode, I linked his FB page on SoundCloud if you want to check him out - he does sweet electro house). The song is pretty much exactly what I try to go for. At least, it represents one of the many feelings I try to capture in my music. It's melodic with "epic" chords and an electro feel (it is not traditional old school U.K. dubstep, no, but I respect and enjoy that style very much). I'd love to hear what you guys think, Electrode and I have worked really hard on this one! For my other songs I SoundCloud I have downloads enabled. Since I sent this one to labels I don't want "unsolicited" copies out there. But, I don't really care about that, except I suppose I should in a professional capacity. If you like the song, PM me for a download link for the full version (this preview is half the song). Thanks for listening! http://soundcloud.com/khazedub/electrode-khaze-trip-to-theEdit: Every play makes the track look better to a record company, and listening is an easy way to show support if you like it! I thought this was just decent until that drop. Then, chills. This is not my favorite style of dubstep, and I doubt I'd be listening to this if you hadn't asked, but I can tell you've got skills. And the drop gave me chills. Fission mucking accomplished, I'd say.
Thanks man. I love your attitude to. I hate "going there," but yes, I love Kode9. I also love that other guy who is the opposite of Kode9 and who is very popular. Thanks for branching out, that's what I had to do to find the more traditional style and I loved it! Even though they really are very different musics. Given the vast number of talented bedroom producers (and talented famous ones), there's no dearth of talent.
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On November 25 2011 09:57 Ancestral wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:50 Fission wrote:
Hi,
I really like your track. I do have one criticism though (I hope you don't mind). It really felt like there was a serious lack of low-end in the track. Obviously I don't have the actual file so I can't give more direct feedback on the frequency range/spectrograph, but it really sounded to me like everything was squished into the midrange in terms of bass.
For equipment, I was listening on a pair of Beyerdynamic 770DT pro (250ohm impedance) studio phones, an external 16bit HRT usb DAC, and a Shanling PH3000 headphone amplifier. Note: headphones are a bit too bass heavy to be considered reference class, but still fairly neutral.
PS: can I get the actual file? I keep the bass at an average of +12dB for the peak in the key of the song over a ~10 second period. This isn't really how you should mix, and I know that. This is just a quick master. It's the same "amount" of bass in the final master as a lot of commercial songs, but judging gross spectra of an entire track is neither scientific nor musical. If it gets on a reputable label, they'll help with making sure the master is good, everything cuts through, nothing gets squashed, and it's fat. Until then, I think it gets the musical point across very well. But discerning ears such as yours can certainly tell it's not a pro master. And the file is coming your way!
Hey, thanks for the reply! One thing I realized almost immediately after posting is that any lack of range I was picking up on was almost certainly a byproduct of compression for hosting on soundcloud (128kbps mp3). The 256kbps file sounds considerably better in that regard, and I'm sure an uncompressed master would be significantly better again. All things considered the mastering is good
Best of luck, friend.
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Just listened to everything you have uploaded, great stuff! You have some sounds like ephixa and helicopter showdown, though the songs aren't the same. Great job, I'd definitely pay money for a full release!
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On November 25 2011 10:20 Fission wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:57 Ancestral wrote:On November 25 2011 09:50 Fission wrote:
Hi,
I really like your track. I do have one criticism though (I hope you don't mind). It really felt like there was a serious lack of low-end in the track. Obviously I don't have the actual file so I can't give more direct feedback on the frequency range/spectrograph, but it really sounded to me like everything was squished into the midrange in terms of bass.
For equipment, I was listening on a pair of Beyerdynamic 770DT pro (250ohm impedance) studio phones, an external 16bit HRT usb DAC, and a Shanling PH3000 headphone amplifier. Note: headphones are a bit too bass heavy to be considered reference class, but still fairly neutral.
PS: can I get the actual file? I keep the bass at an average of +12dB for the peak in the key of the song over a ~10 second period. This isn't really how you should mix, and I know that. This is just a quick master. It's the same "amount" of bass in the final master as a lot of commercial songs, but judging gross spectra of an entire track is neither scientific nor musical. If it gets on a reputable label, they'll help with making sure the master is good, everything cuts through, nothing gets squashed, and it's fat. Until then, I think it gets the musical point across very well. But discerning ears such as yours can certainly tell it's not a pro master. And the file is coming your way! Hey, thanks for the reply! One thing I realized almost immediately after posting is that any lack of range I was picking up on was almost certainly a byproduct of compression for hosting on soundcloud (128kbps mp3). The 256kbps file sounds considerably better in that regard, and I'm sure an uncompressed master would be significantly better again. All things considered the mastering is good Best of luck, friend.
Honestly I appreciate that. So yeah, my mastering isn't perfect, but just from mastering everything myself, since I don't have money and would rather make it to where a label pays for mastering by writing good songs than getting great masters by having deep pockets, I've gotten MUCH better since I started in August last year. I'm glad you found it to be reasonably good, because I always make the mastering disclaimer but, to show a little pride, my masters aren't THAT bad.
On November 25 2011 10:21 cowsrule wrote:
Just listened to everything you have uploaded, great stuff! You have some sounds like ephixa and helicopter showdown, though the songs aren't the same. Great job, I'd definitely pay money for a full release!
Thanks. The SoundCould format is good for that, I'm glad you just let em play! Also you're comparing me to some established artists, so I appreciate that. And I'm glad you found my sound unique! Although I'm sure you've noticed it still varies quite a bit, but with some common themes.
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Loved the drop. Sounds like the kinda stuff that would play in a dubstep club. Keep up the good work! :D
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Usually I don't like dubstep much at all - I only like the softer stuff. I really really like this!
Here's to you - Good Luck in the future! let us know how you do
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I like this a lot! I wish you the best in your pursuit of a label!
I saw on soundcloud that people could pm you for the full version? I don't have an account on soundcloud but I sure as heck would love the full version if you're giving it out.
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Very nice, I love this. Will be linking it to a few friends =)
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On November 25 2011 11:47 Djzapz wrote:
Very nice, I love this. Will be linking it to a few friends =)
Thanks a lot for the interest. Sent you the .mp3 .
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Well, let's see.
The beginning is alright, nothing really standing out. I like your main section from 1:00 to 1:30, it's nice.
But between 1:30 and 1:50 you lost me completely, and not in a good way. That section does not make sense to me from how the track was developing and where it is going. Redo completely.
The little section at 1:56 to 2:02 sounds horrible. I am not sure what you messed up there, but it sounds cheap, there is some strange noise in the background, and the length is off. You should make it longer and give it time to build up, or have a sudden drop, or redo.
The part from 2:02 to 2:10 is very good, it makes sense as part of the track and the main melody section follows after. But it's too short .Extend it.
Overall it's a decent effort, but I would not grade you higher than 50-60. The main problem is your composition, it sounds at times like you made the sections separately and did not think enough about how they interact with each other. Possibly you may have spent too much time inside the track, as compared looking at it from the outside.
Also listen to the people telling you not to use stereo panning -- it's bad style.
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Not a critic in any way shape or form. Know nothing about the technicalities. Just your average person who like to listen to electronic music late at night while playing video games, watching streams, or surfing TL. I just wanted to say that I like it a lot, listened to it 20+ times and would buy it off iTunes right now if it was there. So hopefully you find that encouraging or something. Keep it up.
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This gives me the urge to play mario and pokemon and everything I played shittons in the past, eat pizza, cuddle my gf and just smile all day,
Happy dubstep indeed! Great work!
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On November 25 2011 14:29 Jinsho wrote:
Well, let's see.
The beginning is alright, nothing really standing out. I like your main section from 1:00 to 1:30, it's nice.
But between 1:30 and 1:50 you lost me completely, and not in a good way. That section does not make sense to me from how the track was developing and where it is going. Redo completely.
The little section at 1:56 to 2:02 sounds horrible. I am not sure what you messed up there, but it sounds cheap, there is some strange noise in the background, and the length is off. You should make it longer and give it time to build up, or have a sudden drop, or redo.
The part from 2:02 to 2:10 is very good, it makes sense as part of the track and the main melody section follows after. But it's too short .Extend it.
Overall it's a decent effort, but I would not grade you higher than 50-60. The main problem is your composition, it sounds at times like you made the sections separately and did not think enough about how they interact with each other. Possibly you may have spent too much time inside the track, as compared looking at it from the outside.
Also listen to the people telling you not to use stereo panning -- it's bad style.
WELL, thanks for not holding back! I'm sorry you didn't like the composition. However, as far as stereo panning, you NEED it. The other fellow was saying I went overboard. Obviously, a track can't be mono.
On November 25 2011 21:42 Atreides wrote:
Not a critic in any way shape or form. Know nothing about the technicalities. Just your average person who like to listen to electronic music late at night while playing video games, watching streams, or surfing TL. I just wanted to say that I like it a lot, listened to it 20+ times and would buy it off iTunes right now if it was there. So hopefully you find that encouraging or something. Keep it up.
Of course I find that encouraging! I know I won't get rich even if a label pushes this song, but I'm a senior in college so the more important thing is making music that people like, and if you're willing to buy it, you must like it!
On November 25 2011 22:56 KeksX wrote:
This gives me the urge to play mario and pokemon and everything I played shittons in the past, eat pizza, cuddle my gf and just smile all day,
Happy dubstep indeed! Great work!
Awesome! I'm glad you got those feelings. I hope at times it also made you want to destroy the dance floor . Add that and it's as good as I could imagine.
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On November 25 2011 10:20 Fission wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 09:57 Ancestral wrote:On November 25 2011 09:50 Fission wrote:
Hi,
I really like your track. I do have one criticism though (I hope you don't mind). It really felt like there was a serious lack of low-end in the track. Obviously I don't have the actual file so I can't give more direct feedback on the frequency range/spectrograph, but it really sounded to me like everything was squished into the midrange in terms of bass.
For equipment, I was listening on a pair of Beyerdynamic 770DT pro (250ohm impedance) studio phones, an external 16bit HRT usb DAC, and a Shanling PH3000 headphone amplifier. Note: headphones are a bit too bass heavy to be considered reference class, but still fairly neutral.
PS: can I get the actual file? I keep the bass at an average of +12dB for the peak in the key of the song over a ~10 second period. This isn't really how you should mix, and I know that. This is just a quick master. It's the same "amount" of bass in the final master as a lot of commercial songs, but judging gross spectra of an entire track is neither scientific nor musical. If it gets on a reputable label, they'll help with making sure the master is good, everything cuts through, nothing gets squashed, and it's fat. Until then, I think it gets the musical point across very well. But discerning ears such as yours can certainly tell it's not a pro master. And the file is coming your way! Hey, thanks for the reply! One thing I realized almost immediately after posting is that any lack of range I was picking up on was almost certainly a byproduct of compression for hosting on soundcloud (128kbps mp3). The 256kbps file sounds considerably better in that regard, and I'm sure an uncompressed master would be significantly better again. All things considered the mastering is good Best of luck, friend.
You can upload any quality you like. Soundcloud caps you on minutes of music, not the size of your files. There is always a moderate compression done by soundcloud which kills stuff that is bass heavy. But its usually too bass heavy if SC makes it clip
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I like! I like! Keep up the good work. Don't stop posting!
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I'm digging the Grit-esque style!
I don't know shit about critiquing music, but I'd buy this track if it was an itunes single np
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well done dude, i'm pretty new to producing but i've got a sound cloud too if you wanna check my one track lol
http://soundcloud.com/benbottle/new-work-in-progress
Your track accomplishes great melodies that I think is often missed in modern dance, im fairly new to genre. This track has alot of substance I love it.
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On November 26 2011 19:39 Bottles wrote:well done dude, i'm pretty new to producing but i've got a sound cloud too if you wanna check my one track lol http://soundcloud.com/benbottle/new-work-in-progressYour track accomplishes great melodies that I think is often missed in modern dance, im fairly new to genre. This track has alot of substance I love it.
This could be great with some lyrics on it.
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Came to hate, stayed to listen.
Nicely done
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