On November 25 2011 06:41 masterbreti wrote: It all depends on the type of content you want.
Rift is what I'm playing right now and its fun. Though its not the most fun I've ever had in a mmo. It for sure quenches the thirst for a mmo when I have it.
Runes of magic is good as well .But its a wow clone so maybe not.
I really enjoyed Fallen earth. Auctually it is one of my favorites to play, but I can't give the time investment that it cometimes requires.
If you're looking for something a little more simple with a lot of depth the more you play it you might want to try runescape. A lot of people bash it but for what it is, its auctually pretty decent. The graphics are not too bad and the combat is ok. its not going to wow you or anything. Its just a really solid mmo that enjoys a healthy life in its realm.
Can you go in depth about what you want/don't want. Its ver vague from the op.
I have closed beta tested something like 30 different mmo's and played about 100. I can find what you are looking for but you have to give me more details.
I want a relatively new game. Either very competitive PvP with a high skill cap..or a very hardcore longass pve game with many levels. not clunky controls with way too good graphics. A good sized player base is a must. Some specific questions would be nice
ok. I'll put a list of questions down and just answer yes or no to them and I should be able to find something for you.
Open world PvP? tons of ingame content? in depth crafting? Sandbox? solo content? sci-fi? willing to pay to play? grinding?
This one can be more than yes or no.
Is there anything specific you don't like in a mmo? like design or graphics or gameplay?
On November 25 2011 05:43 EEhantiming wrote: yea, they really ruined a great game
The company is in complete shambles at the moment. They are in re-model mode:
Dear players,
Thank you all for taking the time to read this letter. I’m Min Kim. I’m one of the founders of Nexon America and I’ve been with Nexon since 2003. MapleStory veterans may remember me from the early days of MapleStory Global. Since 2007 I’ve been working on things like our prepaid cards, marketing, and free-to-play evangelism efforts. Unfortunately, that has taken me away from what I enjoy most – working on our games and services.
Just recently however, Nexon America has made some internal changes and I am honored to announce that I will be back at the helm of our game services in my new role as Nexon America’s head of Live Games. There are a lot of changes coming and I’m going to tell you about some of the big things happening at Nexon over the next year.
The purpose of Live Games is to better monitor and manage our production, marketing, and communication efforts. It’s closely integrated with the rest of Nexon America and our developers in Korea. In fact, I just came back from a Korean trip to meet with all of our developers and trust me when I say that we’ve got some really cool and exciting things coming up from some of the best game makers in the world.
More important than a new structure, exciting content and cool games though, is our renewed commitment to show you the best in us. We’re planning many improvements at Nexon America both internally and in the games we service, but when considered together, they all stem from the same idea – getting back to basics. To you, our loyal customers, Nexon’s back to basics focus will provide:
• Better and more frequent communications with our players • Increased reliability and stability of our game services • Better Web and game experiences • Improving game security • Improving the quality of our customer service • Providing the best content and support for both existing and upcoming games
We hope you can put your faith in us to bring you the play you deserve.
It took them long enough to even address it. -_-;;
Anyway, if you really want to get enthralled in a MMO I recommend you check out each company and community before playing.
SCDPetrify,
Based off your answers I would play on a private lineage server or Ragnork. Yes, they aren't the newest but a lot of the new ones are knock-offs of other F2P/subscription based games and not what you are really looking for.
On November 25 2011 06:41 masterbreti wrote: It all depends on the type of content you want.
Rift is what I'm playing right now and its fun. Though its not the most fun I've ever had in a mmo. It for sure quenches the thirst for a mmo when I have it.
Runes of magic is good as well .But its a wow clone so maybe not.
I really enjoyed Fallen earth. Auctually it is one of my favorites to play, but I can't give the time investment that it cometimes requires.
If you're looking for something a little more simple with a lot of depth the more you play it you might want to try runescape. A lot of people bash it but for what it is, its auctually pretty decent. The graphics are not too bad and the combat is ok. its not going to wow you or anything. Its just a really solid mmo that enjoys a healthy life in its realm.
Can you go in depth about what you want/don't want. Its ver vague from the op.
I have closed beta tested something like 30 different mmo's and played about 100. I can find what you are looking for but you have to give me more details.
I want a relatively new game. Either very competitive PvP with a high skill cap..or a very hardcore longass pve game with many levels. not clunky controls with way too good graphics. A good sized player base is a must. Some specific questions would be nice
ok. I'll put a list of questions down and just answer yes or no to them and I should be able to find something for you.
Open world PvP? tons of ingame content? in depth crafting? Sandbox? solo content? sci-fi? willing to pay to play? grinding?
This one can be more than yes or no.
Is there anything specific you don't like in a mmo? like design or graphics or gameplay?
Open world PvP? Yes! tons of ingame content? Not needed, but would be nice. in depth crafting? If its a pvp focused game, no. If it is PvE, yes. Sandbox? I'll take it o.o solo content? Not needed sci-fi? Would be awesome willing to pay to play? Yep grinding? I'll grind if I have to, but quests and other fun ways of leveling are best.
Is there anything specific you don't like in a mmo? like design or graphics or gameplay? Clunky/over realistic graphics. WoW graphics are fine for me. I don't like the games where when you attack you run to your enemy, I like to have lots of control over my character. Jumping is a MUST. Guild wars would be awesome, any kind of like big team PvP is fun.
You might actually like Rusty Hearts then. It's still in Open Beta, but the player base is rather small and like I said, they are in the process of making more changes in the game.
The only thing Rusty Hearts doesn't have is the fact the world is closed, i.e. you run dungeons and it's more medieval, i.e. vampires, witches, werewolves, yadda yadda.
The game doesn't really have much of a grind and the story is whimsical. I wrote about it a month or so ago. Anyway, that's my 2 cents.
Well, Star Wars the Old Republic comes out soon, and a lot of people are excited for that. But if you don't like WoW, I don't think you'll like SWTOR because from what I've heard and scene it basically just looks like a reskin of wow
GW2 looks really sick though, and I can't wait for that to come out so I can take a better look.
You could try out Lord of the Rings Online. It went free to play over the summer. I havnt played it for several years, but it was fun when I did. Star Wars: The Old Republic comes out in December, but honestly every gameplay video I have seen looked like a copy and paste of WoW with Mass Effect conversations thrown in. However, I got a beta key from curse and can try it this weekend and see how it is first hand.
Edit: Guild Wars 2 looks sick but I don't think that it even has a release date.
On November 25 2011 06:41 masterbreti wrote: It all depends on the type of content you want.
Rift is what I'm playing right now and its fun. Though its not the most fun I've ever had in a mmo. It for sure quenches the thirst for a mmo when I have it.
Runes of magic is good as well .But its a wow clone so maybe not.
I really enjoyed Fallen earth. Auctually it is one of my favorites to play, but I can't give the time investment that it cometimes requires.
If you're looking for something a little more simple with a lot of depth the more you play it you might want to try runescape. A lot of people bash it but for what it is, its auctually pretty decent. The graphics are not too bad and the combat is ok. its not going to wow you or anything. Its just a really solid mmo that enjoys a healthy life in its realm.
Can you go in depth about what you want/don't want. Its ver vague from the op.
I have closed beta tested something like 30 different mmo's and played about 100. I can find what you are looking for but you have to give me more details.
I want a relatively new game. Either very competitive PvP with a high skill cap..or a very hardcore longass pve game with many levels. not clunky controls with way too good graphics. A good sized player base is a must. Some specific questions would be nice
ok. I'll put a list of questions down and just answer yes or no to them and I should be able to find something for you.
Open world PvP? tons of ingame content? in depth crafting? Sandbox? solo content? sci-fi? willing to pay to play? grinding?
This one can be more than yes or no.
Is there anything specific you don't like in a mmo? like design or graphics or gameplay?
Open world PvP? Yes! tons of ingame content? Not needed, but would be nice. in depth crafting? If its a pvp focused game, no. If it is PvE, yes. Sandbox? I'll take it o.o solo content? Not needed sci-fi? Would be awesome willing to pay to play? Yep grinding? I'll grind if I have to, but quests and other fun ways of leveling are best.
Is there anything specific you don't like in a mmo? like design or graphics or gameplay? Clunky/over realistic graphics. WoW graphics are fine for me. I don't like the games where when you attack you run to your enemy, I like to have lots of control over my character. Jumping is a MUST. Guild wars would be awesome, any kind of like big team PvP is fun.
Thanks !
Darkfall seems to be your fit. It is a PvP focused sandbox game. It doesn't have a huge playerbase but those who do play it are very active and very competitive. I would say about 15,000 subscribers, if not more. PvP is open world. You can build a city with your guild in game and make defenses so that you can take on a opposing guilds forces if they decide to invade and ruin your city.
If not that I would suggest Earthrise then. Much smaller playerbase but going f2p in the next month. Has a lot of pvp option but does not have the competitiveness of darkfall. A decent amount of PvE content too.
Damn, Firefall just barely got mentioned, but it sounds like something you might get on-board with, OP.
Release is next month (maybe), F2P with microtransactions. I tend to avoid MMOs at launch to give devs time to sort out the major problems, but...well, free-to-play, so I'll at least try it out, for sure.
Eve-o was a lot of fun and I recommend at least trying it, but it's not for everyone. I don't recommend Final Fantasy or Lineage at all, but my time with those was very limited. Guild Wars 1 is still great to go back to for a while every few months -- if you liked it, there's really no reason not to pick it up and play every once in a while. It's a great distraction for a bit, haven't quite had any other MMO experience like that one.
And, if you're looking for something new, this Firefall thing looks like it could be worth a shot.
On November 25 2011 10:06 masterbreti wrote: If not that I would suggest Earthrise then. Much smaller playerbase but going f2p in the next month. Has a lot of pvp option but does not have the competitiveness of darkfall. A decent amount of PvE content too.
Have you been playing Earthrise recently? I tried it upon release but a combination of poor server performance and awful client coding made the game incredibly aggravating to play and it was far from enjoyable.
As to the OP, what was that about MMOFPSs? Tabula Rasa isn't running anymore. PlanetSide is not shit. It's just winding down at the moment. I haven't played seriously for 2 years now, since the populations have dwindled, the playerbase degenerated into scum, rampant hacking and non-existent support from SOE. But it was one of the most incredible experiences in gaming (imo). You should definitely keep an eye on the sequel, it's shaping up really nicely.
Guild wars 2 will be epic, I can't wait. I was even finishing off the rest of my titles in gws1 to get w/e it is you get in gws 2 for achieving GWAMM. Just need to finish grinding for the 3 money titles 3/4 ways there, after this all I would have left is to finish off legendary master of the north. 5 year Dervish only, lol, I just can't seem to get into any other profession. Sadly after they completely re-built the class after a patch, I quit. I say its worse, but crap dervs would say its better. No one new the derv like I did pre patch, I made do with the patch and was happy at one point before they started to add in the monthly environments effects in pvp, which are just horrible. The class worked far different after the patch, but adrenaline and the new enchant removal system with dervs was just a horrible move.
On November 25 2011 10:06 masterbreti wrote: If not that I would suggest Earthrise then. Much smaller playerbase but going f2p in the next month. Has a lot of pvp option but does not have the competitiveness of darkfall. A decent amount of PvE content too.
Have you been playing Earthrise recently? I tried it upon release but a combination of poor server performance and awful client coding made the game incredibly aggravating to play and it was far from enjoyable.
As to the OP, what was that about MMOFPSs? Tabula Rasa isn't running anymore. PlanetSide is not shit. It's just winding down at the moment. I haven't played seriously for 2 years now, since the populations have dwindled, the playerbase degenerated into scum, rampant hacking and non-existent support from SOE. But it was one of the most incredible experiences in gaming (imo). You should definitely keep an eye on the sequel, it's shaping up really nicely.
I played it again a few weeks ago. My computer wasn't able to handle the game very well but I didn't get any lag or any problems that were not my own fault.
Closed Beta by the end of the year. Open Beta when that's done, game released as soon as that is done.
For those wondering what that means, let me put it like this. Anet said that they are finishing the game in Alpha entirely, and CB is to iron out the finer details, and OB is to stress test servers. GW1's closed and open beta combined were less than a month combined. For all intents and purposes, the game is finished right now as I type this. Honestly, it should be out by March/April as long as they don't completely wet the bed.
On November 25 2011 12:14 SCDPetrify wrote: FireFall seems sick I'll definitely be trying that one out. Currently in the process of trying to get back my incredibly old Guild Wars account too .
And neither of those 2 games looked very interesting to me Master, well Earthrise DOES but its not very user friendly or anything.
What would my games be if I took away FPS? xD
THANKS
then I think Fallen earth would be your type of thing. post nuclear war type thing. A ton of crafting though, auatually everything in game is crafted. You can craft motorcycles and such. I would check it out. It just went f2p not too long ago. Worth the download anyways.
If you're tired of the combat system in WoW at all you could give DC Universe Online a shot. It's F2P so if you don't end up liking it you didn't lose anything. From what I've seen of it, it's got some good elements.
@Fruscainte(and everyone else "recommending" Guild Wars 2): There is absolutely no reason for him to wait for Guild Wars 2. By the things they've shown, it will have shitty PvP compared to what other games have, even though it will have fun, but not very challenging, PvE. They already stated that they're focusing on PvE because they think that their PvP is already at a high level, but they never show anything like that.
Don't recommend a game because it has shiny graphics. You are not better than everyone shitting on the game for no reason(I'm not either, even if it sounds like that. I'm just telling you to wait until we know that it's good and not just get told that it's good by ArenaNet) There is no point, game mechanics wise, to recommend Guild Wars 2 right now. Even IF it will be good in the end and all my points are invalid and I'm completely wrong, right now there's no indication whatsoever of that. Right now all you see is shiny graphics and shitty mechanics. If you really want to play Guild Wars, play Guild Wars 1 and check out Guild Wars 2 after it's release in a trial version or something, then you can talk about playing it.
The same goes with SWTOR and everything like that. You have no idea how the game will look, everything indicates that it will be bad however, so the best deal is to just wait for the released game and then check it out. If Guild Wars 2 will have great PvP I'll be the first one to point it out, but right now it's just too early to say that, we should be rather skeptical so that ArenaNet keeps working hard on it.
If we talk about MMOs we have to stop talking about how "epic" everything is that has better graphics than WoW. This happened all the time the past years and none of the times it worked out.
@masterbreti: What did change in the f2p version anyway? Always wondered if I started it again, was hell of a fun game.
Also, does anyone know more about the battlemechanics in firefall? I never tried it but it kinda looks like it could be fun and similar to an "ultima online pvp realm"... But is it really good or are the videos just good?
@Fruscainte(and everyone else "recommending" Guild Wars 2): There is absolutely no reason for him to wait for Guild Wars 2. By the things they've shown, it will have shitty PvP compared to what other games have, even though it will have fun, but not very challenging, PvE. They already stated that they're focusing on PvE because they think that their PvP is already at a high level, but they never show anything like that.
Don't recommend a game because it has shiny graphics. You are not better than everyone shitting on the game for no reason(I'm not either, even if it sounds like that. I'm just telling you to wait until we know that it's good and not just get told that it's good by ArenaNet) There is no point, game mechanics wise, to recommend Guild Wars 2 right now. Even IF it will be good in the end and all my points are invalid and I'm completely wrong, right now there's no indication whatsoever of that. Right now all you see is shiny graphics and shitty mechanics. If you really want to play Guild Wars, play Guild Wars 1 and check out Guild Wars 2 after it's release in a trial version or something, then you can talk about playing it.
The same goes with SWTOR and everything like that. You have no idea how the game will look, everything indicates that it will be bad however, so the best deal is to just wait for the released game and then check it out. If Guild Wars 2 will have great PvP I'll be the first one to point it out, but right now it's just too early to say that, we should be rather skeptical so that ArenaNet keeps working hard on it.
If we talk about MMOs we have to stop talking about how "epic" everything is that has better graphics than WoW. This happened all the time the past years and none of the times it worked out.
@masterbreti: What did change in the f2p version anyway? Always wondered if I started it again, was hell of a fun game.
Also, does anyone know more about the battlemechanics in firefall? I never tried it but it kinda looks like it could be fun and similar to an "ultima online pvp realm"... But is it really good or are the videos just good?
Well, you clearly haven't looked at all into GW2 with that little statement of "All we see is shiny graphics and shitty mechanics." Considering they, and other people have released thousands of videos, articles, etc. detailing every little aspect of the game for the past few months. I mean, at this point, we know almost EVERYTHING about this game except for some late game content and the finer details of PvP. It's not like SWTOR where we don't know anything of the actual game up until this point. The developers are being very open. We know what we're getting because we have been getting a steady stream of information of real gameplay, showing things that they promise in action. There's not even a point to list off every single thing you type as wrong (which they are :>) because if you looked into the subject with any real purpose you would be overloaded with the amount of information that is out there on the game.
Also, no one is saying that they want to kill WoW with GW2 as you imply. Even Anet says they don't want to do it. Competition is what makes a good game, and WoW should be the competition. Anyone who says that they are going to "kill WoW' is fooling themselves, just look at the past few MMO's in the recent years. GW2 has outright stated multiple times that they are NOT a WoW killer. They are their own game, with their own formula and their own strategy.
Oh, and GW1 is nothing like GW2. I don't know why you recommend people that game to wait for GW2 honestly, unless they want to know the story.
P.S. - If you don't like PvP as it is, that's all fine and dandy. It does look kind of meh-tier right now, and I'm hoping when they leave Family/Friend Alpha and move into Closed Beta next month that they make it a little more interesting. However, considering how World vs World vs World is looking right now, I can't fucking wait for that man. I'm not one for competitive 5v5 or 10v10, but WvWvW looks astoundingly fun.
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