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Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
November 24 2011 18:33 GMT
#1
Sooo I'm bored. Trying to find a new MMO to play. I've played WoW off and on for many years and it is getting just super repetitive. A new 'serious' mmo would be awesome, but I don't want to get into some late like L2, EVE...

The idea of an MMOFPS would be pretty sick but I assume they are all failures, I guess the best so far would be Tabula Rasa.

So just googling around here are some ideas I have so far...

Age of Conan: Seems decent - not sure how big the player base is; but it also seems a lot like WoW.

Global Agenda: Kind of an MMO, I played it during beta and don't really remember why I stopped. I remember it being just a more complex TF2.

Vindictus: No, not what I'm looking for

Final Fantasy IXXIXIXIXXIXIXI (the new one): Haven't ever played a FF MMORPG, will probably give it a shot.

Guild Wars 2: Of course, the holy grail, I love PvP and I want this game NOW!

Tera: Now even sure if its out in US yet, I know its been out in Asia forever. Kind of just looks like another animey good graphics shitty gameplay game.

Lineage 2: Loved the game, kind of dying and way too botty.

Any ideas? I love PvP, PvE is fine too as long as its a challenge.

*
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 24 2011 18:46 GMT
#2
What more are you looking for in a game?
Ragnarok Online? Classic RPG MMO :3
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
clownzim
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 18:51:05
November 24 2011 18:49 GMT
#3
well l2 will be free starting from November's 30, with the new expansion goddess of destruction. i didnt touch l2 since 2008 but it seems to way more "noob" friendly these days, i got a char to lvl 18 with a couple of hours, this used to take at least a day if u fresh start. and another fact for l2 after servers merges and the announce of its been free a lot of PLAYERS came back to the game and it seems to be pretty funny now :D
i walked around with my "high level(78)" char and didnt saw those bot lines every where anymore. of course that bot's will ever exist, but they are way less now. and u can lvl up till 90+ guess caps is lvl 99 now or no caps lvl
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Spray
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States402 Posts
November 24 2011 18:49 GMT
#4
the star wars one comes out soon i think
HuK Fighting~~!
CCitrus
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada164 Posts
November 24 2011 18:54 GMT
#5
Rift is still relatively new. I played a character to max level before I remembered that I don't like MMOs. It's a good one too, really does some interesting things with the class system to get extra flexibility and replay value out of each character.

Plus, something WoW lost a long time ago: world PvP!
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
November 24 2011 18:54 GMT
#6
On November 25 2011 03:46 Torte de Lini wrote:
What more are you looking for in a game?
Ragnarok Online? Classic RPG MMO :3


Competitive in some way, large skill gap...
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
November 24 2011 18:55 GMT
#7
SWTOR beta NDA has been lifted a few days ago, you can check out a bunch of videos on youtube (jesse cox does some seemingly decent level 1 to 5 play throughs for all classes, totalbiscuit has a view vids up). The downside is you probably can't just go and play it, but you could try to get into the beta, maybe there is some way? or if you're not in a hurry, wait for release.
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
November 24 2011 18:56 GMT
#8
On November 25 2011 03:54 CCitrus wrote:
Rift is still relatively new. I played a character to max level before I remembered that I don't like MMOs. It's a good one too, really does some interesting things with the class system to get extra flexibility and replay value out of each character.

Plus, something WoW lost a long time ago: world PvP!


I played Rift to 25 or so.... It was too "clunky"... But yeah it was decent. And wwyyyyyy tooo much aggro.
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
November 24 2011 18:57 GMT
#9
On November 25 2011 03:55 MisterD wrote:
SWTOR beta NDA has been lifted a few days ago, you can check out a bunch of videos on youtube (jesse cox does some seemingly decent level 1 to 5 play throughs for all classes, totalbiscuit has a view vids up). The downside is you probably can't just go and play it, but you could try to get into the beta, maybe there is some way? or if you're not in a hurry, wait for release.


I got accepted into Saturdays beta...but the thought of a mmo based after a movie doesn't really appeal to me.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
November 24 2011 19:00 GMT
#10
On November 25 2011 03:33 SCDPetrify wrote:
Sooo I'm bored. Trying to find a new MMO to play. I've played WoW off and on for many years and it is getting just super repetitive. A new 'serious' mmo would be awesome, but I don't want to get into some late like L2, EVE...

The idea of an MMOFPS would be pretty sick but I assume they are all failures, I guess the best so far would be Tabula Rasa.

So just googling around here are some ideas I have so far...

Age of Conan: Seems decent - not sure how big the player base is; but it also seems a lot like WoW.

Global Agenda: Kind of an MMO, I played it during beta and don't really remember why I stopped. I remember it being just a more complex TF2.

Vindictus: No, not what I'm looking for

Final Fantasy IXXIXIXIXXIXIXI (the new one): Haven't ever played a FF MMORPG, will probably give it a shot.

Guild Wars 2: Of course, the holy grail, I love PvP and I want this game NOW!

Tera: Now even sure if its out in US yet, I know its been out in Asia forever. Kind of just looks like another animey good graphics shitty gameplay game.

Lineage 2: Loved the game, kind of dying and way too botty.

Any ideas? I love PvP, PvE is fine too as long as its a challenge.



Lineage 2 actually is transferring to a free to play model just today! On the 30th the revamped levelling will be patched in. People say it's very much accelerated even now and L2 had generally decent PVP, so out of those games you've mentioned I'd check out L2 and see if the game as it is now appeals to you..


KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 19:07:09
November 24 2011 19:01 GMT
#11
I hate to be that guy(because I love MMOs) but you should give up on new MMOs, at least until this "make everything shiny and good looking and fuck gameplay, copy everything!"-era is over. They are, right now, all the same bullshit in different shape.

On November 25 2011 03:33 SCDPetrify wrote:
Guild Wars 2: Of course, the holy grail, I love PvP and I want this game NOW!

If you are waiting for GW2 because of the PvP I'd recommend playing GW1 or DaoC instead. Everything that made PvP in GW good is taken away in GW2 and replaced with typical MMO stuff that you see in every other game, whereas GW1 is still awesome and DAoC has one of the best PvP I've ever seen.

Guild Wars 2 will have huge PvE content, but the PvP really lacks quality as the strategic features are very limited now and the new battlesystem just lacks everything that doesn't include spaming one button.(I know I will get again a lot of hate for this, but I swear I'm not looking for a huge discussion on this.)

Basically this:
Tera: Now even sure if its out in US yet, I know its been out in Asia forever. Kind of just looks like another animey good graphics shitty gameplay game.

Applies to any other new MMO thats coming out as well.
It's just what sells, having good gameplay mechanics is just not important to everyone anymore, but whether the game looks good or not definitely is. So this is what devs focus on.
The beginning of this video sums up pretty good whats going on(you don't have to watch everything as it really sums up the whole thing lol)



So yea, for PvP I'd recommend Guild Wars 1, DAoC and Lineage 2. If you'd also likegeneral grinding or PvE fun go for Ragnarok Online, Star Wars Galaxies, Everquest 2... And I guess Lineage 2 has some pretty decent PvE as well(at least for my taste.)

EVE online is also very active, you can totally get into the game still!

There's also fallen earth that has the best of both sites, but it recently went F2P...(Another proof that innovation doesn't sell)

I'd also recommend WoW because it is fun until the max level, but you already played it ..soo.. xD
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
November 24 2011 19:10 GMT
#12
On November 25 2011 03:57 SCDPetrify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 03:55 MisterD wrote:
SWTOR beta NDA has been lifted a few days ago, you can check out a bunch of videos on youtube (jesse cox does some seemingly decent level 1 to 5 play throughs for all classes, totalbiscuit has a view vids up). The downside is you probably can't just go and play it, but you could try to get into the beta, maybe there is some way? or if you're not in a hurry, wait for release.


I got accepted into Saturdays beta...but the thought of a mmo based after a movie doesn't really appeal to me.


It's not based after a movie, but if you're looking for PVP primarily then I wouldn't recommend SWTOR, at least in its current form.
BW forever || Thall
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
November 24 2011 19:11 GMT
#13
daoc looks pretty cool... how's the player base?

On November 25 2011 04:01 KeksX wrote:
I hate to be that guy(because I love MMOs) but you should give up on new MMOs, at least until this "make everything shiny and good looking and fuck gameplay, copy everything!"-era is over. They are, right now, all the same bullshit in different shape.

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 03:33 SCDPetrify wrote:
Guild Wars 2: Of course, the holy grail, I love PvP and I want this game NOW!

If you are waiting for GW2 because of the PvP I'd recommend playing GW1 or DaoC instead. Everything that made PvP in GW good is taken away in GW2 and replaced with typical MMO stuff that you see in every other game, whereas GW1 is still awesome and DAoC has one of the best PvP I've ever seen.

Guild Wars 2 will have huge PvE content, but the PvP really lacks quality as the strategic features are very limited now and the new battlesystem just lacks everything that doesn't include spaming one button.(I know I will get again a lot of hate for this, but I swear I'm not looking for a huge discussion on this.)

Basically this:
Show nested quote +
Tera: Now even sure if its out in US yet, I know its been out in Asia forever. Kind of just looks like another animey good graphics shitty gameplay game.

Applies to any other new MMO thats coming out as well.
It's just what sells, having good gameplay mechanics is just not important to everyone anymore, but whether the game looks good or not definitely is. So this is what devs focus on.
The beginning of this video sums up pretty good whats going on(you don't have to watch everything as it really sums up the whole thing lol)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGar7KC6Wiw


So yea, for PvP I'd recommend Guild Wars 1, DAoC and Lineage 2. If you'd also likegeneral grinding or PvE fun go for Ragnarok Online, Star Wars Galaxies, Everquest 2... And I guess Lineage 2 has some pretty decent PvE as well(at least for my taste.)

EVE online is also very active, you can totally get into the game still!

There's also fallen earth that has the best of both sites, but it recently went F2P...(Another proof that innovation doesn't sell)

I'd also recommend WoW because it is fun until the max level, but you already played it ..soo.. xD

OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
November 24 2011 19:12 GMT
#14
I know Cabal Online is old but it's still a good MMO in my opinion. I had many fun years playing Cabal. Flashy graphics, and a 'challenging' combo system that makes a big difference in PvP (but of course, gear still matters).
[TLMS] REBOOT
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
November 24 2011 19:26 GMT
#15
Don't forget all the bots and the grinding. The small maps which are connected via portals are pretty nice as well.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 19:31:56
November 24 2011 19:29 GMT
#16
On November 25 2011 04:11 SCDPetrify wrote:
daoc looks pretty cool... how's the player base?


The EU and NA servers just merged, so it got a little bit laggier(not too much though) but much more competetive in the RvR!

The PvE is pretty ...well, it is there but you have to organize yourself(players already do, you can get M10 raids etc at least once a week). But PvP is 100% active still.
kierpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States757 Posts
November 24 2011 19:36 GMT
#17
A lot of my friends are starting to play SWOTR and Dragon's Nest.


:< I work in the MMO industry, so I can't look at MMOs as non-work

I work on a game that's sort of like Monster Hunter, but it won't be out 'till next year. It's called RaiderZ.
I cook things! :3 | Twitter: @kierpanda | www.eatgamelive.com
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 19:39:47
November 24 2011 19:39 GMT
#18
On November 25 2011 04:36 kierpanda wrote:
A lot of my friends are starting to play SWOTR and Dragon's Nest.


:< I work in the MMO industry, so I can't look at MMOs as non-work

I work on a game that's sort of like Monster Hunter, but it won't be out 'till next year. It's called RaiderZ.

I cannot imagine how the monster hunter concept would work with MMO mechanics other than to just call it MMO and make it a shitfest of instances like vindictus or something.

Care to elaborate? It might help the OP, so it's not that offtopic. (Implying that you are allowed to, obviously)
kierpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States757 Posts
November 24 2011 19:46 GMT
#19
On November 25 2011 04:39 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 04:36 kierpanda wrote:
A lot of my friends are starting to play SWOTR and Dragon's Nest.


:< I work in the MMO industry, so I can't look at MMOs as non-work

I work on a game that's sort of like Monster Hunter, but it won't be out 'till next year. It's called RaiderZ.

I cannot imagine how the monster hunter concept would work with MMO mechanics other than to just call it MMO and make it a shitfest of instances like vindictus or something.

Care to elaborate? It might help the OP, so it's not that offtopic. (Implying that you are allowed to, obviously)


It's very roughly based off Monster Hunter. It shares a lot of the same crafting mechanics (hunt monsters for materials) and the non targeting system.

The world is open, but there are a few boss instances as well. There are some bosses that openly roam fields though.

Also, there's no set classes in this game... So weapon type determines which kind of skills you're allowed to use. You basically get to pick your skills from four different skill trees to build your own character.
I cook things! :3 | Twitter: @kierpanda | www.eatgamelive.com
RAGEMOAR The Pope
Profile Joined February 2011
United States216 Posts
November 24 2011 19:51 GMT
#20
Global Agenda is dead. The community is gone to shit.
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