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On November 22 2011 16:48 theBizness wrote:
IMO Section 2B is crucial and on point, considering the amount of complaining regarding fees/passes/tickets. Maybe you can't buy all the tournament passes/team shirts/sponsoring products, but you can sure as hell write an e-mail/give a social media shoutout to a host city's mayor/chamber of commerce, your favorite team/player/tournament's sponsors, or the manager of an establishment that hosted a barcraft. Even when you're just watching streams/browsing TL it doesn't cost you anything to watch/look at a few ads. Posting on Starcraft specific sites to congratulate tournaments organizers/sponsors/players is great, but to outsiders (which a majority of corporate sponsors/various venues are) it doesn't amount to much. When they see the value, they will want in and value is measured in terms of statistics.
ETA: while you may not get a personalized response from the CEO of a company if you contact them, rest assured they have people keeping tabs on these things, and often times people in charge of reading and responding to any e-mails/letters/etc.
Agreed! In ANY professional sport if you went out to tried to buy every team-sponsored product you'd go broke. But you can still give eSports the best possible promotion that doesn't cost you a dime... just a little bit of your time. Retweet, repost, like, and promote. Contact the sponsors via their Twitter and Facebook accounts. Look what happened with the GSL when Pepsi sponsored them? Tastosis told viewers to tweet at Pepsi thanking them and Pepsi came back with a fan contest! They heard loud and clear from the fans that their sponsorship was appreciated and they took notice of it!
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On November 22 2011 16:53 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 16:45 Grobyc wrote:
I was also expecting to to be about your sub-par proposal to Anna at a run-down local restaurant where she only said yes because it's you, despite the terrible terrible setting it was situated in.
Oh well... I suppose this is decent anyway. Exactly my thoughts :O
I originally thought he was going to say something about Tumba's proposal or some shit like that and then I saw the wall of text and I was like, "Oh boy, this cannot be good."
He's definitely a dreamer. Anyway, I already said my spiel a few pages down. Take it for what you will. As nice as Geoff's ideas sound, there are better ways of implementing some of them, others we don't quite need and as for the rest? We aren't quite ready for.
I ask everyone who read's his blog to think critically about it rather than just be Yes Men. It's one thing to say something; it's another thing to do it.
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3/5.
Fine read, but could be better  yes, the message is 5/5, but the blog isn't. Get some graphics or structure it in a better way.
And inC, I don't know about saving lives, that honestly sounds like a troll to me, but you DO make a difference. No, I'm not gonna be all like "you're my favorite player" or spout any other biased shit which would pretty much make my statement void, I'm just gonna outright say, you do make a difference in SC2, and thus in A LOT of peoples lives.
Have a good life, and we'll all conquer this world.
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Best blog I've ever read. So passionate about everything you do. Good read
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Very good summary, and I feel that this is snowballing to be the way you want whether or not people are actively "trying to help e-sports." Ppl just like to watch and thats all that it needs for the natural progression into mainstream.
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Very nice post. I will record me reading this for my Youtube channel tomorrow.
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Awesome post, that was inspiring !
Well I'm off to create a twitter account.
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I'll do my part Incontrol, theres no starcraft club at my college, there will be one soon :D
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On November 22 2011 15:33 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Can I interrupt this unapologetic stroke-fest?
You're still a good salesman, Geoff. I remember when everyone slurped up your promotion of the first NASL.
Anyway, your dream of SC2 is certainly not mine. Your dream sounds like turning esports into a MAJOR cash cow consumer power, like other sports league, such as say the NFL. Watch our games, buy our products, buy our sponsor's products, pay for my coaching, pay for exclusive memberships, and so on.
This fits well with your wanting coverage of esports to be like that of ESPN. ESPN certainly has a successful business model financially, but take a closer look at what it would be like to have esports of this variety: 24-hour coverage of every little sc tournament, a bunch of talking heads, so-called analysts that will over-analyze every minor detail to its death and make reckless blanket statements about the game and playesr, tons of time devoted to rumors and gossip and "off-monitor" incidents and infractions, trades, signings, interviews, and so on, so we can all follow along like drones.
This is a very rah-rah post where we're all supposed to "improve" esports by spreading its goodness across cyberspace and expanding its power! We will sell it to everyone!
I think the scene needs a lot of work. If anything, it needs to contract, not expand. There are so many events, so many tournaments, so many players, everyone seems to have at least one decent accomplishment under their belt. They're devalued, in a way, because they are so numerous.
I will not retweet this, I will not like this, I do not gobble everything said by veteran posters or progamers, I have a hard time trusting anything you say, crafty though you may be. You've completely romanticized what is a consumer-based enterprise. Video games should be treated as hobbies, not lifestyles. Says who? Says me, different opinion. We should not eat-sleep-breathe starcraft to the extreme that we are headed towards.
Look how excited and empowered all of you are! Yeah! Wouldn't it be great if you had this enthusiasm about other aspects of your lives? Oh well.
this is has some good points
I dont want sc2 to become a conglomerate, but I would like to see it succeed, I think we need less tournaments but better tournies
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I'm always looking to find ways to get more involved.
For right now, I run the BarCraft events in St. Louis, MO: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=263553
I wish I had more connections with people in places that could use me. I'm honored to have people out to barcraft, but I feel like I could do so much more.
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Yeah right.... Incontrol....
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InControl wants more money. Its cool, but really you're not bettering eSports. You're increasing cash flow to your pocket. Good for you, but don't constantly hide behind "its better for the community, its for the community".
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We need a cultural revolution, development of a society were gamers are accepted as normal people, just as they are in Korea
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I agree with the spirit of iNControl's post, but not the message. While it is great for e-sports to expand, we must also be cautious at the same time. Too much rapid expansion may trigger sponsor bubbles and the effects of hundreds of millions of dollars pouring in is still unknown on e-sports as a whole. The current structure between players, fans and the tournament establishments must be examined and possibly reformed if it is going to handle exponential growth over the coming years. I do not want my MLG or NASL being locked out over player salary disputes. I do not want sponsors to leave rapidly when the returns on their investments are not what they expected due to too much fan mail and not enough buying.
These are all points that I have not elaborated upon and unfortunately I do not have the time to give them the proper argument they deserve. Nevertheless, I think caution and some more discussion on the possible negative impacts of growth on the e-sports scene is needed very much in here. When the fan base increases exponentially, so does the money and so does the greed factor. I do not intend to troll, I merely wish for people to start discussing rather than posting 1-2 sentences about how much they agree with 5/5.
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cant believe the trolls even showed up in this thread...pretty much proves that nobody from EG can say anything without getting hated on... Once again losers try to twist and mess up an awesome message from a very important part of our community
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Your (our) dream will come true soon enough. If u asked me 5 years ago: Will u ever see such huge events in e-sports that are accepted internationally and witch bring not only players but ppl together to enjoy e-sports? I would have said "no..but i dream it will" ... now 5 years later we see it starting...and it didn't start with a few ppl and streams..it actually started in brute force.
The fact that it started in such an aggressive way just shows u how much ppl were wanting this and for how long they waited. We just needed something to spark it inside us..and that was SC2... (sry CS/Dota/LoL..and other games but even if u are e-sport games..u would have never had this impact on e-sports..that sc2 had..let's be serious..no game would have ever had bar events dedicated solely to an e-sport game, that bring people physically together).
I am now 100% sure that in 3-5 years from now...what Incontrol says (and what we all hope) will come true.
Let's put it another way... we are "the next generation" of politicians....parents, etc. We are all gamers even if soft or hardcore. We know what the beauty and impact of a well made game could have on lives. We will probably be even playing side by side with our kids then QQing that "Z/P/T are OP" on the forums because our kids cheesed us LOL
The future iNcontrol is talking about is closer then he thinks...and for someone who is part of a non-esport country but always craved to see e-sports grow..it almost brings tears of joy to my eyes.
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Wait, SC2 is turning into a religion?
I'm in! :D
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