EPTA Decent Proposal - Page 10
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discodancer
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zalien
United States216 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On November 22 2011 16:09 iNcontroL wrote: Duravi you've been a troll in other threads that regard me as well.. so it's no real surprise to see you here doing the same. News flash: Things I have done a year ago may contradict things I say/do in the future.. it's called growth. If you have something to say to my message please do. If you want to try and character assassinate to somehow attack my message that people should moderate themselves (I mean seriously, are you trying to fight this point?) by pointing out I myself was in need of that advice a year ago? Really? Didn't think so. Please function as a participating figure in the thread or move along and wait until SOTG tomorrow to start up your crap again. InControl taking the high road, like a boss. Only the Critics(TM) are allowed to change their positions at will. They can call a player a washed-up nothing, and when he comes back, claim you saw that coming a mile away. You're anonymous. You're the crowd. Real life isn't like that. It isn't made up of pure noble sentiment and flawless white knights. I'm really compelled to aggree with the self-moderation urge in the internet community. Companies don't wanna support a sector that will lash out the second it perceives something wrong. The best of us gotta rise to the challenge and let others know that the company you praised for backing a pro-team just yesterday isn't know you should shout a string of expletives over some new product that doesn't suit you. I'm not saying the vitriol will stop just because there's a vocal consensus that it ought to, but the more you let the people around you know that you moderate your responses, let it play out in time--that's improvement. The fact that Geoff sorta stands out as a tough-guy that whines a lot is because he's one of the few the regularly addresses the problem. Start a Drama thread on TL and you're gonna get responses like flies to .... well ... you know. That's nature, that's one level. The next is letting that kind of behavior characterize the entire community. Trash on the SC2 noobs, trash on the casters that are uninformed, compare both to every vile thing your mind comes up with. THAT behavior shouldn't be tolerated, and thank God TeamLiquid moderates that extensively (KellyMilkies for ex.) Personally practice behavior that rises above the internet cesspool at large. My two cents. | ||
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Camer51
United States8 Posts
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moshthepitt
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Duravi
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a9arnn
United States1537 Posts
 . Consider me more motivated than before I read this! | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On November 22 2011 16:41 Duravi wrote: Ok, in a more eloquent way without singling out anything about you Incontrol, what I want to say is a large part of the reason we have the quality of events that we do now is due to the massive negativity on TL an Reddit after events like MLG Dallas and Blizzcon. You can be critical without being a spiteful jackass, that's his point. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
Oh well... I suppose this is decent anyway. | ||
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
On November 22 2011 16:44 KrazyTrumpet wrote: You can be critical without being a spiteful jackass, that's his point. So you don't think all the spiteful jackasses had anything to do with the massive improvement of MLG? | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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sashamunguia
Mexico423 Posts
 I actually wonder a lot about what effect does writing an email to a company that sponsored X player/event/whatever has. I mean yeah it should be great, but I want to know how great is it and on in what way.On the other side, love emails are not as good as a 200% income increase, and may be even sad to see a 0% increase in sales with a ton of love emails. I would love to see those 10 documentals finally come out, I would love to see an MLG hosted in Mexico, I would love to see more products like vizene or beer or band-aids on an esports event, not major companies, but diverse products, products each and everyone of us needs and are not related to computers. That will be the day | ||
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skipgamer
Australia701 Posts
I really wish you could take on some other role within an organisation beyond being a player Geoff. I know playing is your focus I just can't help but think your views, insight and charisma could be of more value to the industry than your star power. | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
ETA: while you may not get a personalized response from the CEO of a company if you contact them, rest assured they have people keeping tabs on these things, and often times people in charge of reading and responding to any e-mails/letters/etc. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 22 2011 16:45 Duravi wrote: So you don't think all the spiteful jackasses had anything to do with the massive improvement of MLG? Constructive criticism is always warranted. How you initiate it is an entirely different story. | ||
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Bawbjohnson
United States174 Posts
I have bought products from companies that support e-sports. I have followed players and teams on Facebook and Twitter. I have let players know how awesome I think they are either in person (at events like MLG) or through PM's. In short, I agree with everything you have said. 5/5, Great blog Geoff! | ||
infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
On November 22 2011 16:45 Grobyc wrote: I was also expecting to to be about your sub-par proposal to Anna at a run-down local restaurant where she only said yes because it's you, despite the terrible terrible setting it was situated in. Oh well... I suppose this is decent anyway. Exactly my thoughts :O | ||
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HydraLF
Hong Kong626 Posts
On November 22 2011 16:41 Duravi wrote: Ok, in a more eloquent way without singling out anything about you Incontrol, what I want to say is a large part of the reason we have the quality of events that we do now is due to the massive negativity on TL an Reddit after events like MLG Dallas and Blizzcon. Negativity does not equal hurting esports. It is a pressure the community can apply on individuals or events to improve. After this Blizzcon it is hard to imagine the next will have as poor of coverage, and immediately after they hired people for esports specifically. By saying TL and reddit should be stricter on those you would stifle that pressure. Community negativity has a purpose and a place. Yes it is dumb when people hate on you for playing Deus Ex 3. But if you try to stop people from complaining about stupid shit like that the moderation may bleed over into things that could actually help. Freedom comes with a price. Criticism is good when it is well presented with clear argument, not the content-less 1-2 line rants/trolls you see most of the time. The idiocy really get out of control a lot of time on Reddit and (to a lesser part due to stricter moderation) TL. Maturity will definitely attract more investors into the scene and outsiders will be more comfortable in finding out what this ESPORTS thing is about. | ||
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how
United States538 Posts
p.s. you should follow suite with tyler and start a vlog | ||
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dnld12
United States324 Posts
Keep it up! | ||
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