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DueSs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States765 Posts
November 22 2011 06:56 GMT
#161
On November 22 2011 15:33 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Can I interrupt this unapologetic stroke-fest?

You're still a good salesman, Geoff. I remember when everyone slurped up your promotion of the first NASL.

Anyway, your dream of SC2 is certainly not mine. Your dream sounds like turning esports into a MAJOR cash cow consumer power, like other sports league, such as say the NFL. Watch our games, buy our products, buy our sponsor's products, pay for my coaching, pay for exclusive memberships, and so on.

This fits well with your wanting coverage of esports to be like that of ESPN. ESPN certainly has a successful business model financially, but take a closer look at what it would be like to have esports of this variety: 24-hour coverage of every little sc tournament, a bunch of talking heads, so-called analysts that will over-analyze every minor detail to its death and make reckless blanket statements about the game and playesr, tons of time devoted to rumors and gossip and "off-monitor" incidents and infractions, trades, signings, interviews, and so on, so we can all follow along like drones.

This is a very rah-rah post where we're all supposed to "improve" esports by spreading its goodness across cyberspace and expanding its power! We will sell it to everyone!

I think the scene needs a lot of work. If anything, it needs to contract, not expand. There are so many events, so many tournaments, so many players, everyone seems to have at least one decent accomplishment under their belt. They're devalued, in a way, because they are so numerous.

I will not retweet this, I will not like this, I do not gobble everything said by veteran posters or progamers, I have a hard time trusting anything you say, crafty though you may be. You've completely romanticized what is a consumer-based enterprise. Video games should be treated as hobbies, not lifestyles. Says who? Says me, different opinion. We should not eat-sleep-breathe starcraft to the extreme that we are headed towards.

Look how excited and empowered all of you are! Yeah! Wouldn't it be great if you had this enthusiasm about other aspects of your lives? Oh well.



Oh good Lord--it took about 2 minutes of looking at your previous posts to understand you.
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
November 22 2011 06:56 GMT
#162
On November 22 2011 15:52 HydraLF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 15:33 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Can I interrupt this unapologetic stroke-fest?

You're still a good salesman, Geoff. I remember when everyone slurped up your promotion of the first NASL.

Anyway, your dream of SC2 is certainly not mine. Your dream sounds like turning esports into a MAJOR cash cow consumer power, like other sports league, such as say the NFL. Watch our games, buy our products, buy our sponsor's products, pay for my coaching, pay for exclusive memberships, and so on.

This fits well with your wanting coverage of esports to be like that of ESPN. ESPN certainly has a successful business model financially, but take a closer look at what it would be like to have esports of this variety: 24-hour coverage of every little sc tournament, a bunch of talking heads, so-called analysts that will over-analyze every minor detail to its death and make reckless blanket statements about the game and playesr, tons of time devoted to rumors and gossip and "off-monitor" incidents and infractions, trades, signings, interviews, and so on, so we can all follow along like drones.

This is a very rah-rah post where we're all supposed to "improve" esports by spreading its goodness across cyberspace and expanding its power! We will sell it to everyone!

I think the scene needs a lot of work. If anything, it needs to contract, not expand. There are so many events, so many tournaments, so many players, everyone seems to have at least one decent accomplishment under their belt. They're devalued, in a way, because they are so numerous.

I will not retweet this, I will not like this, I do not gobble everything said by veteran posters or progamers, I have a hard time trusting anything you say, crafty though you may be. You've completely romanticized what is a consumer-based enterprise. Video games should be treated as hobbies, not lifestyles. Says who? Says me, different opinion. We should not eat-sleep-breathe starcraft to the extreme that we are headed towards.

Look how excited and empowered all of you are! Yeah! Wouldn't it be great if you had this enthusiasm about other aspects of your lives? Oh well.



Its shocking to hear that more money in the pool, more sponsorship, more awareness from blue chip companies and media is a bad thing for the scene.

Not everyone treat this as a hobby, professional players make a living out of it, you may treat it as a hobby but you can't say its a bad idea to build on the infrastructure for it to support more people who try to make it as a profession.

Of course you are entitled to not support or retweet this as you disagree.

So you are going to trust 100% in the vision of the guy who less than a year ago was asking for GSL restreams (support esports guys)? I'm not saying I disagree with his general message but don't be so quick to jump on everything he said with no scrutiny.
Kybuar
Profile Joined September 2010
United States93 Posts
November 22 2011 06:59 GMT
#163
This is an awesome post. I already try to get as much people as possible into SC2. I talk about it all the time at school, and have gotten quite a few into it. I also have a second sc2 account just for this. I tell people if they are not sure if they want to purchase the game that they can play on that second account, I teach them on there too. Hell even my senior project is about competitive SC2.

Sorry for the ramble, just wanted to point out how I love to show people this great game, and its community.
Sachem
Profile Joined May 2011
United States116 Posts
November 22 2011 07:05 GMT
#164
"Vision is the ability to see things as they will be, not as they are"

I'm 4/5 for getting people into SC2. One more for this year!
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
November 22 2011 07:05 GMT
#165
Bravo. I'll admit I have ideas that I haven't expressed or put time into, and I'm sometimes quieter than I should be. I'll think of this as my first step toward moving E-Sports forward!
Ok Starcraft 2 Commentator
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 07:10:03
November 22 2011 07:09 GMT
#166
Duravi you've been a troll in other threads that regard me as well.. so it's no real surprise to see you here doing the same.

News flash: Things I have done a year ago may contradict things I say/do in the future.. it's called growth. If you have something to say to my message please do. If you want to try and character assassinate to somehow attack my message that people should moderate themselves (I mean seriously, are you trying to fight this point?) by pointing out I myself was in need of that advice a year ago?

Really?

Didn't think so. Please function as a participating figure in the thread or move along and wait until SOTG tomorrow to start up your crap again.
HydraLF
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong626 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 07:32:35
November 22 2011 07:09 GMT
#167
On November 22 2011 15:56 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 15:52 HydraLF wrote:
On November 22 2011 15:33 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Can I interrupt this unapologetic stroke-fest?

You're still a good salesman, Geoff. I remember when everyone slurped up your promotion of the first NASL.

Anyway, your dream of SC2 is certainly not mine. Your dream sounds like turning esports into a MAJOR cash cow consumer power, like other sports league, such as say the NFL. Watch our games, buy our products, buy our sponsor's products, pay for my coaching, pay for exclusive memberships, and so on.

This fits well with your wanting coverage of esports to be like that of ESPN. ESPN certainly has a successful business model financially, but take a closer look at what it would be like to have esports of this variety: 24-hour coverage of every little sc tournament, a bunch of talking heads, so-called analysts that will over-analyze every minor detail to its death and make reckless blanket statements about the game and playesr, tons of time devoted to rumors and gossip and "off-monitor" incidents and infractions, trades, signings, interviews, and so on, so we can all follow along like drones.

This is a very rah-rah post where we're all supposed to "improve" esports by spreading its goodness across cyberspace and expanding its power! We will sell it to everyone!

I think the scene needs a lot of work. If anything, it needs to contract, not expand. There are so many events, so many tournaments, so many players, everyone seems to have at least one decent accomplishment under their belt. They're devalued, in a way, because they are so numerous.

I will not retweet this, I will not like this, I do not gobble everything said by veteran posters or progamers, I have a hard time trusting anything you say, crafty though you may be. You've completely romanticized what is a consumer-based enterprise. Video games should be treated as hobbies, not lifestyles. Says who? Says me, different opinion. We should not eat-sleep-breathe starcraft to the extreme that we are headed towards.

Look how excited and empowered all of you are! Yeah! Wouldn't it be great if you had this enthusiasm about other aspects of your lives? Oh well.



Its shocking to hear that more money in the pool, more sponsorship, more awareness from blue chip companies and media is a bad thing for the scene.

Not everyone treat this as a hobby, professional players make a living out of it, you may treat it as a hobby but you can't say its a bad idea to build on the infrastructure for it to support more people who try to make it as a profession.

Of course you are entitled to not support or retweet this as you disagree.

So you are going to trust 100% in the vision of the guy who less than a year ago was asking for GSL restreams (support esports guys)? I'm not saying I disagree with his general message but don't be so quick to jump on everything he said with no scrutiny.


You need to remind me where did I say I support gsl restream. Also it's regardless of whatever incontrol have said in the past. You are focusing and hating on the person instead of this blog post.
Sure.
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 07:26:55
November 22 2011 07:13 GMT
#168
On November 22 2011 16:09 iNcontroL wrote:
Duravi you've been a troll in other threads that regard me as well.. so it's no real surprise to see you here doing the same.

News flash: Things I have done a year ago may contradict things I say/do in the future.. it's called growth. If you have something to say to my message please do. If you want to try and character assassinate to somehow attack my message that people should moderate themselves (I mean seriously, are you trying to fight this point?) by pointing out I myself was in need of that advice a year ago?

Really?

Didn't think so. Please function as a participating figure in the thread or move along and wait until SOTG tomorrow to start up your crap again.

Umm you are saying communities like reddit and TL need to get rid of people who do negative things. Asking for restreams while banning people doing the same isn't negative? So according to you they should have gotten rid of you? If you feel you deserve more chances why don't those same people you are pointing out? That is the only part of your post I disagree with. The rest is very good. I'm no troll, I've said positive things about you before as well, but apparently you only pay attention to the negative ones.
Eminard
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3 Posts
November 22 2011 07:14 GMT
#169
I completely agree as well. More people (including myself) need to examine what can be done to further the cause of eSports as a serious competition among professional teams and individuals.

After reading this, I started brainstorming possible venues that would be a good goal to aim for. Due to what I'm going to call MLG's multi-denominational environment, there really isn't a good venue format beyond what they already have. Renting Exhibit Halls lends itself perfectly to division of the eSports events involved. One hall for CoD, one for LoL, one for Halo, and one for SC2. It's perfect for different stages and different competitions.

However, when it comes to single events such as a stand-alone Starcraft Tournament, I think existing sporting arenas provide great spaces to watch games. Take a basketball venue. You gain better seating capacity and even get assigned seating, you get built-in audio/video systems from jumbotrons and speakers, and you have access to event facilities such as concession stands, restrooms, even a souvenir store if desired. You also gain a large floor space (the court itself) to setup additional seating, staging, and special areas for things like autograph signings during the event. But their capacity really doesn't exceed much beyond 18,000-20,000... which is close to current eSports attendance.

To advance it further, why not hit Baseball Stadiums. Outdoor ones excluded (rain and technology never mix well), a domed facility still provides all the features of a basketball arena, while giving more capacity and more floor space on the field itself for pool play, autograph signing, and more.

Finally... the grand-daddy of them all.... Football Stadiums. Capacities into the 60-80,000. Take Cowboys Stadium. Can you imagine a SC2 game up on their giant screen over the field? Skyboxes could be used as practice lounges for teams or boxes for event sponsors. Massive capacity for spectators and field-level events too.

And with any venue... what about extra fan interactivity? What if your smart phone or iPad could give you real-time information about the games being played. Check a player's production queue of the game you're watching live on your phone and see how long that Colossus is going to take before it pops out. Find out how many workers were killed so far. Blizzard really could jump on the eSports bandwagon if they offered some kind of API to the tournaments to allow for the game stats to go out live beyond just one screen. New on-screen graphics tournament-branded, interactive player apps for iPhone/Android to show game status and tournament results. The possibilities are endless with an API. Who knows what someone might think of.

Finally... to assist tournaments that rely on replies... how about a multiplayer replay capability? Let more than one person view/sync to a single replay file to improve commentary provided by a team of casters. This again goes back to Blizzard taking the initiative to get eSports to the next level.

But even without Blizzard's help... there is much we can do to further eSports... retweet, repost, like, promote. Don't just participate on gaming forums. Participate on global forums. Bring new people. Watch a tournament in your living room and invite your friends. Like iNcontroL said... "do anything and everything you can".
Remb
Profile Joined August 2011
United States190 Posts
November 22 2011 07:17 GMT
#170
Did you guys know that a majority of GSL's viewership is from Korean television (only covers Code S)? A call for televised SC2 has been done in a thread before, but his views were rather extreme.

I believe that SC2 should eventually be televised as it is without changes to format, style, or approach. Actively watching a stream (or god forbid download a media player) is viewed as 'too much effort' for a lot of people. There are hundreds of thousands of potential casual viewers who would follow a SC2 broadcast program with a strategically placed time slot on cable TV.

The question is: Is there a network intelligent enough to execute it successfully?
A virtuous act is performed habitually, and not once from incentive alone.
Eminard
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3 Posts
November 22 2011 07:20 GMT
#171
On November 22 2011 16:17 Remb wrote:
Did you guys know that a majority of GSL's viewership is from Korean television (only covers Code S)? A call for televised SC2 has been done in a thread before, but his views were rather extreme.

I believe that SC2 should eventually be televised as it is without changes to format, style, or approach. Actively watching a stream (or god forbid download a media player) is viewed as 'too much effort' for a lot of people. There are hundreds of thousands of potential casual viewers who would follow a SC2 broadcast program with a strategically placed time slot on cable TV.

The question is: Is there a network intelligent enough to execute it successfully?


This might be going to the "enemy" in SC2's case... but what about partnering with a console to stream content. XBOX Live already boasts ESPN 3's live streaming sports games. The same could be done with SC2 tournaments... or any tournament for that matter. I agree cable is the easier choice for some viewers... but consoles are another alternative content delivery system that could be utilized.
Latrommi
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States222 Posts
November 22 2011 07:21 GMT
#172
Incontrol, you're awesome. Don't stop being such a strong advocate for eSports!
Possibly the best thread ever http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=232912&currentpage=All
Xintho
Profile Joined November 2011
1 Post
November 22 2011 07:22 GMT
#173
I had to make a TL account after reading this post. Thank you Geoff for this amazing post. I've just recently started watching the tournament scene when Raleigh happened this year. Before that I would just occasionally watch a game on youtube. Myself and two friends went to the first BarCraft event hosted in Pittsburgh, PA. Ever since then I've been watching every bit of SC2 that I can. I helped start the Pittsburgh BarCraft / StarCraft group and have tried to spread the word as much as possible.

I recently started putting on episodes of Funday Monday on when I have friends over to play Magic: The Gathering and a whatever else we decided to do with our time. I posted about MLG on my Facebook wall and just recently started adding players and the like to my Twitter account as well.

I'm glad to see someone with actual competitive experience make a post like this supporting everything the community has been doing and encouraging us all to do more. It's also very refreshing to see so many people on Reddit and TL that are excited about the growth of e-sports as I am.

Keep doing what you do. Both for your team and the community. It's really encouraging to see so much passion coming from not only the viewers and spectators but from the players, casters, producers and sponsors as well.
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
November 22 2011 07:25 GMT
#174
Great post loved reading every word of it and I can't agree with you more. This post is really inspiring going to start trying a little bit more to spread the word.

I support Incontrol 100% as the leading voice in the push for SC2! Anything to push eSports I'm a fan of.
Whalecore
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway1111 Posts
November 22 2011 07:25 GMT
#175
Awesome write-up. I will do my part!
Playgu
Arvd
Profile Joined September 2011
England54 Posts
November 22 2011 07:28 GMT
#176
5/5 Awesome write up.

I do not even know what to say after that. It just seems so good that whatever I say will not do it justice
"The better you get the more you realize you are really bad."
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
November 22 2011 07:28 GMT
#177
On November 22 2011 15:33 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Can I interrupt this unapologetic stroke-fest?

You're still a good salesman, Geoff. I remember when everyone slurped up your promotion of the first NASL.

Anyway, your dream of SC2 is certainly not mine. Your dream sounds like turning esports into a MAJOR cash cow consumer power, like other sports league, such as say the NFL. Watch our games, buy our products, buy our sponsor's products, pay for my coaching, pay for exclusive memberships, and so on.

This fits well with your wanting coverage of esports to be like that of ESPN. ESPN certainly has a successful business model financially, but take a closer look at what it would be like to have esports of this variety: 24-hour coverage of every little sc tournament, a bunch of talking heads, so-called analysts that will over-analyze every minor detail to its death and make reckless blanket statements about the game and playesr, tons of time devoted to rumors and gossip and "off-monitor" incidents and infractions, trades, signings, interviews, and so on, so we can all follow along like drones.

This is a very rah-rah post where we're all supposed to "improve" esports by spreading its goodness across cyberspace and expanding its power! We will sell it to everyone!

I think the scene needs a lot of work. If anything, it needs to contract, not expand. There are so many events, so many tournaments, so many players, everyone seems to have at least one decent accomplishment under their belt. They're devalued, in a way, because they are so numerous.

I will not retweet this, I will not like this, I do not gobble everything said by veteran posters or progamers, I have a hard time trusting anything you say, crafty though you may be. You've completely romanticized what is a consumer-based enterprise. Video games should be treated as hobbies, not lifestyles. Says who? Says me, different opinion. We should not eat-sleep-breathe starcraft to the extreme that we are headed towards.

Look how excited and empowered all of you are! Yeah! Wouldn't it be great if you had this enthusiasm about other aspects of your lives? Oh well.


Stepping on the soap box again, eh?

You have nearly 6,000 posts on a Starcraft forum, I think you're the last person that should be spouting this kind of shit off.
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
KiL.SEA
Profile Joined November 2011
Malaysia2 Posts
November 22 2011 07:28 GMT
#178
This is Amazing!

*this is my first post in TL*
sebsejr
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
213 Posts
November 22 2011 07:36 GMT
#179
Wauw Geoff. Incredibly writeup! really enjoyed it, and i think what you talk is really relevant. I try to do most the things you talk about, but this will encourage me to do even more! thanks geoff! <3

<3
Bswhunter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia954 Posts
November 22 2011 07:36 GMT
#180
On November 22 2011 14:54 SleepTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 14:35 BFCrimson wrote:
Has anyone considered how amazingly equipped the Dallas Cowboys Stadium would be for an event? The main stage right in the middle of the field with in house barcrafts going on. The hugest screen I've ever seen capable of broadcasting the game to the masses we could pack in that stadium. I bet you someone has to have thought of this before me.

Cowboys Stadium (Wiki)


It costs like $24,000 PER HOUR to rent the stadium.

Imagine the story if we got it to happen thou. Imagine just how awesome that would be, if SC2 fans ended up doing such an event.
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