EPTA Decent Proposal - Page 13
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teide
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ChriS-X
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MHath
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On November 22 2011 16:36 discodancer wrote: I think MountainJewJunkie has some valid points. I liked the one about contracting - sc2 looks like a giant clusterfuck right now. There is no way in hell tournaments like OP suggested would happen "once a month", that's just absurdity. People will not drive for 10 hours every 4 weeks, that's not how market works. If it's twice a year - sure, you can gather a stadium, but that's about it. Also the level of interest needs to be assessed beyond 1 year of MLG, most of the fans are still short-term viewers, they might ditch sc2 for any other major game that comes out, like D3 or w/e. So yeah, OP is fantasizing a bit too much for my liking. The idea of contraction is an interesting one. I think once a month would work, but maybe it would be in the format of having 1-4 'Major' ones, and the others being a little smaller. If 4, it would be like the 'grand slams' in sports like tennis and golf. If 1, it would be like MLG right now. Having a monthly large tournament would work if there aren't a hundred other tournaments going on throughout the year. Right now in USA alone there's MLG, IPL, NASL with multiple tournaments a year. There are also things like IEM NYC and others I can't think of right now. Outside of USA, there are others like Dreamhack and the rest of the IEM tournaments. Then there are the qualifier tournaments that add to this. Ideas to consider: If the model of 1 monthly tournament were to happen in USA, how would it? Would it be by one of the major 3 'winning', or the three working out a way to co-exist. Would it work to have each of the three run 4 tournaments a year, either in a row or alternating? If one wins, how should it be formatted with concerns to how many ''championship" tournaments and how many "regular" tournaments? Also, would it be a monthly weekend LAN like previous tournaments in USA, or would it be Korean style like GSL, with games all month? If it's GSL style, it will conflict with GSL, and I don't know if that's a winnable battle when trying to get the best players in the world to come compete (at least not right now). If it's a monthly weekend LAN, it could be scheduled to not conflict, and both can accommodate the best players in the world. I don't think the idea of contraction in terms of the number of large tournaments contradicts what he was saying. This is more about having more viewers, more sponsors, and helping out the players more. I think it should there should be a mention about not using Adblock (or disabling it just for SC stuff). I think it's a pretty important topic. I thought the title was a reference to the book/movie "Indecent Proposal". Was that your intention? | ||
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Leargle
United States173 Posts
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Pingop
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- Incontrol <3 | ||
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Rudoman
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HystericaLaughter
Australia720 Posts
Especially the story about the Australian floods, being Australian myself (personally unnafected by the floods) I have a strong connection with that disaster | ||
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sirdharma
France7 Posts
On November 22 2011 18:17 sharkeyanti wrote: I don't follow yours or any other SC2 notable's exploits, so forgive me if this seems unbecoming. We the non-Korean eSports community have had this discussion before with this and other games. I see the merit of a pep-talk for those who believe in SC2 as a viable large-market sport. What this blog fails to address is why anyone else should feel this way. If your scope would have been to broad, I understand. I just don't see what a "rallying of the troops" does for SC2. I support cleaning up forums and such, but active consumerism based on who has a hand in the SC2 scene just seems phony. And, that whole section about consuming in general felt somewhat like product placement. The logic seems sound, but wouldn't outreach to a potential competitor encourage more revenue and exposure? Creating an insular system of advertising and promotion has worked very well for SC2 in its infancy, but what if ASUS suddenly loses interest? Or maybe a company's stock goes way down, and they can no longer fund a $50k tournament. The passion is there for the game, which is nice to see, but I do fear too fast a monetization of the game's assets. Maybe I'm just too blase to have the right fervor for SC2's rise. I would definitely be curious to see a well-done survey of SC2 players in relation to SC2 competition viewers. Is it a healthy percentage or a rabid fan base? Appreciate the article, but question the merits of putting SC2 on the march. Why does moving more cash around make the game/community better? What sharkeyanti says. I mean no disrespect (nor troll), but weighing the success of a sport by the money it generates sounds very "american". I like InControl's ideas on social media and raising awareness, but the whole consumerism part is actually scary to me. While I just wanted to raise that objection I have not doubt in InControl's passion and dedication to that game. Thanks for that! | ||
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Avelii
Switzerland18 Posts
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Mikkerthebhu
Denmark154 Posts
InControl, you have the potential to be one of the most influencing personalities in all of sc2 history! Off topic: In chance you will read this, I have seen your stream, and I came to the conclusion that your current hotkey layout/setup is probably slowing your gaming potential. I would love to write/talk with you about it because I got a lot of ideas which I would like to share. I am currently working on some tutorial videos (in danish) and I would love your view on exactly this matter (hotkeys). If you are interested please PM. Just in case, this is not me trying to put you into a bad spotlight. I hope this message doesn't come out that way! Best of wishes from Mikkerthebhu | ||
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sicajung
United Kingdom297 Posts
on a serious note: A very awesomely written blog post. pleasure to read and will do whatever I can for E-Sports, still whatever I do is nothing compared to what uve done for e-sports and the community. props. keep up dude. | ||
pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
still waiting "INCONTROL IS WRITING BLOGS INSTEAD OF TRAINING" on reddit frontpage though | ||
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Osmoses
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ytter
Denmark17 Posts
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DarkSider
Romania66 Posts
Why would I as a viewer want sc2 to become huge ? All top players would say hell yeah i want bigger prize pool and more tourneys because i want to make bling-bling but for a viewer what sc2 becoming huge could mean ? Most of the viewers would follow blindly what their idols say but i do have this worry: If sc2 gets too big then we have a big yummy cake from which many will try to get a bigger slice. If sc2 is broadcasted on tv we might get tournaments with exclusive broadcasting rights (idk how happy the tv station would be to sign a contract and have the stream be available online aswell), maybe we get payperview etc. For example after the GSL success which had a free stream we got AOL to follow which wasn't free anymore. (This is still a game and probably a large majority of players/viewers are too young to have a way to buy online tickets and whatnot to view those events. Or they just can't afford the 10-20$) Also too big prizes might hurt aswell since some great players who could provide entertaintment of highest caliber to us would feel too big to train 8-12 hours a day when they have several hundread thousand $ in their bank account. I just assume many top players if they had the money they wouldn't waste their youth in front of a monitor - i might be wrong. And also with huge prizes you get thausands more Leenok wannabe who don't go to school hoping for 1 Jackpot in sc2 to change their life. And inevitably most of them will get no education and fail in sc2 too. Don't get me wrong, I would love a couple more big offline tournaments but if sc2 changes from "home game" to an industry I wonder if the change would be good or bad. | ||
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Talic_Zealot
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LETS DO THIS SHIT BITCHES!! | ||
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iEatWoofers
Switzerland108 Posts
 And I agree with you to 99%... I'm just not sure about TV. Seems like the whole TV-Entertainment-Business is pretty aweful/corrupt. I wouldn't want my favourite players and casters to have to censor or change themselves just to be on TV. IMO TV is dying slowly but surely anyway. It's all going to be about the internet in the future, so I think we'd be better off prioritizing Streams etc. much more heavily than old-school TV. Don't forget that a LOT of people are watching all these tournaments and streams from Europe, Asia, Africa and Australia (etc.) too. And we might not get ESPN 2 or any of these other channels on TV (at least I don't). (Please don't ever let shows like SOTG be only on TV) So while going on TV might reach a broader US-audience, the rest of the world probably won't benefit from it at all... or will they stream the tournaments for the rest of the world? Most likely not. And don't think that other sports-channels would pick it up fast around the world... I could barely watch basketball on tv where I live -.- But stadiums would really be awesome ;-) | ||
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CursedRich
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