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gCgCrypto
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany297 Posts
November 22 2011 11:18 GMT
#261
O captain my captain!


You may call me a dreamer, but I am not the only one
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
blAke139
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Switzerland199 Posts
November 22 2011 11:20 GMT
#262
That's why I love this scene. Really good write-up Geoff!
I don't know if making SC2 related music really counts as what you say is needed, but I gave and give my best. More is to come

StarCraft 2, what up! You can't put us down cause we come up! :D
Check out my original SC2 Songs: http://www.youtube.com/user/blAkeMusic4Life
FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
November 22 2011 11:23 GMT
#263
Great write up I think we are already halfway there like the numbers arent out for this last mlg so we might have gotten 200k already. Stadiums and ESPN I dont think will happen too fast but eventually why not im not doubting that it will happen just I wouldn't say it will happen next year but im all for it and id be happy going to an event like that and id love to see stog and games on ESPN
SelectStaR
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom129 Posts
November 22 2011 11:31 GMT
#264
Its not just a game, its a hobby!
Lead By Example
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 22 2011 11:32 GMT
#265
On November 22 2011 20:20 blAke139 wrote:
That's why I love this scene. Really good write-up Geoff!
I don't know if making SC2 related music really counts as what you say is needed, but I gave and give my best. More is to come

StarCraft 2, what up! You can't put us down cause we come up! :D


Ey you're the guy who made a couple songs on sc2 right? I love em,<3.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
maiko
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Germany13 Posts
November 22 2011 11:34 GMT
#266
After reading the whole thing I must say, really inspiring and motivating.
Here a just a few thought that came to my mind i wanted to share.

Right now I am living in a small city and going to college. I moved together with my girlfriend about a year ago and
showed here, that I was really passionate about eSports, SC2 and so on. When we watched the first
games together, she didnt understand a thing. I remember a nice evening where we sat on the balcony and i told
her the whole SC Lore as good as I could remember it from sclegacy articels. Some months ago, it was her birthday and I got
her a copy of SC2. Right now, we watch all big events together, she is a huge MKP fan and we do a prediction game for
every GSL Season together which is really fun. It is so nice to have someone around, that you can share your hobby with!

Furthermore, I wasnt always happy with the social contacts I had the last years in college. I mean the guys I knew from
college were nice and fun to hang out with but I was lacking something. Some months ago i stumbled upon a threat about
a BarCraft in my town. Actually it was just a guy who just moved here asking if there were any other SC2 geeks around.
Right now we have met several times at one of our places and had a great time together. I met a lot of people I have so much
in common with. Not just passion for games but also like MTG and poker and so on. Some days ago I thought I will never have to be afraid again to got somewhere on this planet and feel lonely or dont find any friends. There will be some SC2 people around everywhere i can have fun with and eventually become friends with. So awesome of an idea!

I have been thinking about doing my own little SC2 webshow for months. I did some casting in the past and after reading
this post I am really motivated once again to finnaly just get started. Seriously if you have an idea, just get started. This is
actually the hardest part I think.

Last but not least: When I read the part about the flooding in Australia I literally almost started crying. It is really impressing
and moving how far you can reach and what you can archive!

Incontrol keep going and everybody else take a good example and support what you love in life!
Greetings!
MalakhWing
Profile Joined November 2010
United States16 Posts
November 22 2011 11:36 GMT
#267
It was nice to meet you in Anaheim earlier this year. When we shook hands I said, "Thank you for all you do for the community." I can't help but repeat those words again. Great write up and I hope to see this come to fruition one day.
ParkBomLove
Profile Joined October 2011
Korea (South)22 Posts
November 22 2011 11:37 GMT
#268
iNcontroL is HELPING esports.

Wonderful post to read, hopefully it will motivate everyone as much it has myself!
Andypk
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland512 Posts
November 22 2011 11:38 GMT
#269
Well said Geoff, and a great write-up! I hope a lot of people take this to heart, I know I'm going to be telling more people about esports! I think I'll start by retweeting this on twitter!
Mikkerthebhu
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 11:47:19
November 22 2011 11:41 GMT
#270
On November 22 2011 19:49 DarkSider wrote:
I might be classed as a selfish bastard but I have only one question if somebody could clarify:

Why would I as a viewer want sc2 to become huge ?

All top players would say hell yeah i want bigger prize pool and more tourneys because i want to make bling-bling but for a viewer what sc2 becoming huge could mean ? Most of the viewers would follow blindly what their idols say but i do have this worry:

If sc2 gets too big then we have a big yummy cake from which many will try to get a bigger slice. If sc2 is broadcasted on tv we might get tournaments with exclusive broadcasting rights (idk how happy the tv station would be to sign a contract and have the stream be available online aswell), maybe we get payperview etc. For example after the GSL success which had a free stream we got AOL to follow which wasn't free anymore. (This is still a game and probably a large majority of players/viewers are too young to have a way to buy online tickets and whatnot to view those events. Or they just can't afford the 10-20$)

Also too big prizes might hurt aswell since some great players who could provide entertaintment of highest caliber to us would feel too big to train 8-12 hours a day when they have several hundread thousand $ in their bank account. I just assume many top players if they had the money they wouldn't waste their youth in front of a monitor - i might be wrong.
And also with huge prizes you get thausands more Leenok wannabe who don't go to school hoping for 1 Jackpot in sc2 to change their life. And inevitably most of them will get no education and fail in sc2 too.

Don't get me wrong, I would love a couple more big offline tournaments but if sc2 changes from "home game" to an industry I wonder if the change would be good or bad.


Don't worry, you don't come out as an selfish bastard! To me you don't sound like a fan of the game and scene, but a guy who is pretty much content at the current position SC2 is in. I am a fan, and I will put my dream in contrast to your worries.

I would love if Starcraft was recoqnized beyond its own playerpool to be a respectable "sport/activity". Even to a degree that becomming a professional gamer is respectable choice of profession. I dream of watching starcraft on television and being able to talk about the game with complete strangers without being shunned. Lets be honest, it is not like gaming is anywhere close to be a hobby you go around and brags about. Gaming is in general still taboo.

My first reason for making SC2 bigger: Minimizes the taboo and makes the whole "gaming" idea more acceptable.
Second reason, it will give me a lot more accessable content.
Third reason, if starcraft hits TV, then it can have a unifieing role (which indeed would be great). At the moment TL seems to be the unifieing factor, highlighting all the major tournaments etc.
Fourth reason, the whole industry would grow: Bigger audience -> more sponsors -> greater prizepools -> More professional gamers -> more content -> higher competition for viewers -> more quality shows -> Potentially reaching TV-quality -> Get an even wider audience -> making gaming acceptable -> repeat.
There is most likely some flaws and holes in this argument, but this is me dreaming, thus only looking at the positive side of things.

Now, the bad side. Could SC2 be torn by interest groups and collapse on its own weight? If it had reached the point that it had become that huge, then all of my dreams had already come true. But would this be sustainable? If we compare it to soccer. Then soccer has reached a point where there is a unique professional league in every single country. There are huge international events. There are sooo many of them. There are even national teams! There is so much content that you would never be able to watch it all. There are more professional soccer players than you would ever know of. How come Starcraft cannot become as huge as soccer? Again this is me dreaming. But the analogy fits. You do only mention minor(though important) problems to an idea, but nothing that cannot be overcome with simple solutions.

If you were a true fan of the game and scene, then there is nothing better than sharing your passion with the rest of the world.
Carpe Diem
pajal
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1 Post
November 22 2011 11:42 GMT
#271
[image loading]

yeah i'm sure he totally wants esports to grow cause he loves the community

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Deleted User 169839
Profile Joined April 2011
25 Posts
November 22 2011 11:45 GMT
#272
Nice writeup, Incontrol is kinda like the MLK of esports.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 11:49:26
November 22 2011 11:49 GMT
#273
On November 22 2011 20:42 pajal wrote:
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[image loading]


yeah i'm sure he totally wants esports to grow cause he loves the community


Please leave this blog and never return, if you think geoff is doing this for money then you really are stupid.
alteredclone
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States110 Posts
November 22 2011 11:55 GMT
#274
On November 22 2011 20:42 pajal wrote:
[image loading]

yeah i'm sure he totally wants esports to grow cause he loves the community


you are directly contributing to my lack of faith in humanity.
Graphics@alteredclone
blamous
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 12:17:22
November 22 2011 12:11 GMT
#275
And here begins the Church of Starcraft. ;-)

GoGo! Spread the gospel! Tell the world what SC2 has done for you!
Get YOUR games cast on NuubCast!
Ditone
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore22 Posts
November 22 2011 12:11 GMT
#276
5/5 fantastic write up :D
Really gives me hope for the future!
Perfection is a human impossibility. Losing doesn't matter (ish). More gg, more skill :D
sagiy19
Profile Joined October 2011
Israel11 Posts
November 22 2011 12:19 GMT
#277
OMG, 2010 is going to be amazing!
blAke139
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Switzerland199 Posts
November 22 2011 12:20 GMT
#278
On November 22 2011 20:32 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 20:20 blAke139 wrote:
That's why I love this scene. Really good write-up Geoff!
I don't know if making SC2 related music really counts as what you say is needed, but I gave and give my best. More is to come

StarCraft 2, what up! You can't put us down cause we come up! :D


Ey you're the guy who made a couple songs on sc2 right? I love em,<3.


Yeah, that's me thanks mate! I'm totally gonna make a heart now: <3
Check out my original SC2 Songs: http://www.youtube.com/user/blAkeMusic4Life
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
November 22 2011 12:36 GMT
#279
Esports attraction to audiences is one thing and its great but I still do think that to reach the next level esports needs a higher caliber RTS

While i watched every game of every mlg and ipl and iem, i kind of do it out of fandom, because the games feel really repetitive
Cheydahi
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom37 Posts
November 22 2011 12:45 GMT
#280
Thank you iNcontrol for that. Reading through it makes me want to get up and do something for SC2 and its development. I did e-mail Monster after trying their drinks and found that I really enjoyed it. I mentioned in the mail that it was due to their sponsership of EG and esports. These companies do listen and as such I was sent a very nice reply and some "goodies" in the mail.

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