EPTA Decent Proposal - Page 16
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SnowK
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goofankle
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Parnass
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mizU
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
I know that everyone and you above everyone has been waiting for you to finally get your big breakout performance/win. But THIS is why we're all still behind you. Even if that big win is a long distance off, you won't be losing any support along the way. That's for certain. Keep up the great work man! | ||
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ajdoj14
United States32 Posts
I agree with the fact that seeing growth would be amazing and definitely is possible. However, the quality of play to bring those kinds of masses must be high. A big part of the ridiculous games at MLG were mainly Koreans, Idra, Huk, or Naniwa. If these are going to be consistently done, on a regular basis, you will see less Koreans, or foreigners traveling to play due to other obligations, example GSL. Overall I feel like the level of play of North America would have to vastly improve to bring this kind of hype. Late game isn't nearly as exciting without koreans playing the VERY top of the foreign scene. I do love the "we the people" section talking about being too critical and going out of your way to make pros feel bad, and also the many examples that were shown on how to personally get involved. I would love to see more of these types of examples because I am sure that there are 1000's of people who would be willing to donate parts of their time to help out with TL or other organizations. That many little contributions and a couple people organizing could help to make a large difference. GL in 2012 Incontrol, wanna see you make a deep run in a big tournament soon! | ||
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Panthae
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AveSharia
United States62 Posts
Player agents. At this time we have players negotiation six figure salaries for themselves and of course that is the extreme case but it will become more and more common.. additionally it doesn't take a six figure salary to necessitate the need for an agent. We have none though. Sports agents don't understand how to monetize a SC2 player. They don't know the first thing about our market. This is something someone could do and the first to do it would have all the business. Are you that person? Create. I've seen a few posts, and I can't help but wonder if we should form some kind of network for gamer-lawyers. I've worked on quite a few contracts at the outset of business relationships, but I wouldn't offer myself up as a go-to for these kinds of contracts. I imagine most SC2 players who are lawyers have never even seen a professional sports contract, let alone an e-sports contract. I know I haven't. I see the hurdle iNControl identities ("Sports agents don't understand how to monetize a SC2 player," I don't either,) and raise the multi-jurisdictional problem as well. If player contracts are governed by California law, you'll need to have a California lawyer. As far as I know, there aren't any major pro teams based in Michigan; so while I'd love to help, there's just not a lot I can do. I can draft an agreement with a team based in Britain, and have it, by its terms, be governed by Michigan law, but what international team would sign that? I can even represent a Michigan gamer (as his "agent,") in negotiating a California contract, but if it ever comes to enforcement of that contract, I'm going to have to outsource the lawsuit to a lawyer in California. So who wants to hire an agent that can negotiate a contract, but can't enforce it? I know I wouldn't. Maybe the starting point is to just get lawyers/agents who game talking. If we can network, and we can break the jurisdictional problems down with referrals, I'm sure we can monetize (promise). Anyone want to share LinkedIn info? | ||
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Zorkmid
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On November 22 2011 23:27 Panthae wrote: How is this not sponsored yet. Because you pay for those posts.... | ||
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Mr_Advantage
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Zorkmid
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On November 22 2011 23:47 Mr_Advantage wrote: Great thread. One question I have is how would you go about going into some of this stuff? What would i major at college if I wanted to be the manager of a team, or what would I need to learn to become a player agent? You probably want a law degree and some marketing background. BTW 5/5 | ||
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Johnzee
United States216 Posts
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JoeAWESOME
Sweden1080 Posts
Dreamhack is stepping it up by having the eSport area in the Icehockey stadium next to Elmia so it is a step towards what you were saying. But yeah, nice write up! | ||
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Nozzbozz
England5 Posts
Great post and well written, sums up some very good points and ideas. I especially like the points about simply talking to people about SC2; I myself have experienced how well this works in changing the way people think about eSports... but more on that later. This response will be long, as I feel the post deserves it. So, I'd like to talk about myself for a moment (Never pass the chance right? ). Throughout my life gaming has been there, be it Age of Empires, Call of Duty, World of Warcraft or of course Starcraft 2. During all of this time, almost 12 years of my life, I didn't share what I experienced; I didn't share what I was doing and how much I loved it. This changed after I started playing SC2 and was introduced to the Day[9] daily by a friend. From that exact moment, inspired by the 100th episode of the daily, I let myself embrace the passion I have for eSports. As a person, how do I feel? Better than I ever have done before. You might think, what does this have to do with the post? What I am trying to say is that, if you are a gamer, a nerd, a geek... whatever... DON'T be scared to accept that. As soon as you accept it you will find that people don't care an awful lot about it... at this point, talk to them. Talk to them about what it is you do, show them what eSports is; you will be surprised at how many people have a genuine interest in the subject; they break the bonds of societies taboos and open their minds to ‘the other side’ so to speak. Personally, I recently started college with a class of people I have never met before. They had never encountered SC2 before, let alone any of the people involved with it. Within 8 weeks the class now know who Day[9] is, what Starcraft2 is, they have heard of MLG and they know that I love all of it. This has made me feel so much more comfortable in myself as a person and it has already given SC2 two more customers with a new interest in eSports. It's life changing really... So, the post...haha. The point I am trying to make is that by sharing SC and eSports with friends, family, even people who you have met for the first time is so amazing. You are helping people understand something they previously would have shunned and kept away from, you are helping eSports grow. And for me at least, every time I speak freely about it I accept what I do even more. And now, whenever I see one more person watching a SC2 stream at college I can see eSports growing... and it happened by me simply talking to them. So iNcontroL I most certainly agree with you that it’s the simple things that count. So, you wanted ideas, I’ll try and make a few. Fan connections: Just too simply have more tournaments for fans to be encouraged and attended by big names (players, casters, members of the community). I know it will be hard due to practice etc and tight schedules but I feel it will do multitudes to the community in terms of making them feel more valued and closer to the people who they look up to. This would therefore help eSports grow because a more passionate fanbase is more likely to tweet, stream, link, post and talk about the things they love. Also, if the eSports community is absolutely amazing people will be more likely to want to get involved with it (attracting new people to eSports community). A different style of show: (If there are any shows like this then we need more of them) I don’t believe anyone can watch a SC video for the first time and claim to understand what exactly is going on; it’s impossible, they don’t know the units, tactics, races… anything. I think this is one reason that puts people off looking into the subject further. Literally 3 hours ago at college my friend and I were watching the MLG finals between Naniwa and Leenock (don’t worry, it was a break  ), another member of the class looked over and said “Every time I look over all I see are little men running at each other”. He looked over a few more times but never really settled to watch the stream with us. I think that this will be the case in most situations such as this.My idea therefore is to have shows which don’t focus as much on the gameplay of Starcraft itself but to discuss what Starcraft actually is. So this could be the stories behind Starcraft lore, why are things happening, what does it mean. I know that once I watched the lord of the rings movie I couldn’t wait to buy Battle for Middle Earth… Gameplay will have to feature at some point in it of course but just not as much. Allow me to clarify, I don’t mean we need a feature length Starcraft movie (although that would be absolutely awesome), nor do I mean we need some guys discussing the hardcore lore of the game. What we need is a light hearted show to help trigger people’s interest in the game, what content is in the show I don’t entirely know past what I have said. I suppose really this would be like the Newbie Tuesday’s on the Day[9] daily just with the addition of story time and pretty pictures It’s not great but it’s an idea.Anyways, before I ramble even more I shall conclude. Great post, absolutely loved it and it was also a pleasure to read a lot of the responses from people. It’s so amazing to know the type of support eSports is gathering. More posts like this are needed though I feel and they need to be posted everywhere. They need to be shown where they wouldn’t normally get to- facebook would be a great place to drop a link and get people from a different scene reading it. Once people open their minds they are ready to understand. | ||
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Calebcalebcaleb
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Roxy
Canada753 Posts
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Arcanne
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
Why are we acting as if it's now or never and the world ends tomorrow? Time is on our side and i would rather see esports reach the heights it deserves without bursting out into a giant mess of shit. | ||
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