Worker Rush Part 3: A New Approach - Page 10

On November 02 2011 18:25 Gheed wrote:
Players in the bronze league have convinced themselves that they are only in bronze because of some cosmic injustice. They are good players, they couldn't be bronze, right? It's just because of all the cheesers that they lose. If they could play macro games they'd be diamond for sure. It's just that a bronze player has to prepare for even more all-ins than grand masters, because the players in bronze are less predictable. Well, that's at least what they tell themselves. I thought the "forever bronze" meme was just a joke, but apparently it has a basis in reality: these people think they are stuck, the hopeless victims of some affliction that is anybody's fault but their own.

On November 07 2011 12:19 Sufficiency wrote:
I don't get it.

How do you win? Do you just pull all your 6 workers + make one more and go straight to someone else's base?

Provided that you can even find him the first time on a 4-players map, by the time you are there he would have at least 2 more workers than you. How do you win?

On November 03 2011 01:03 Blaec wrote:
Unspotlitten

I enjoyed this alot.



I don't think it was self righteous. I thought it was true gonzo journalism, not alot of us on TL know much about bronze league. Gheed is here to illuminate the depths of the lowest league.

On November 08 2011 02:00 Elbows wrote:
At the risk of opening myself up to ridicule I would like to comment as a bronze league player who fell victim to this a couple of months ago. I purchased SC2 in July having never played an RTS before. When I started laddering I was still having trouble getting to 15 OC without fucking my build up. It literally took every ounce of my concentration not to fuck my opening BO up. Seeing an enemy worker in my base was usually enough to screw me up, especially if it was a probe as I was absolutely terrified of getting canon rushed.

When I lost to this I saw one SCV at my base really early, like I had just started my 10 depot. I had a feeling something fishy was going on but still had no idea when I was supposed to scout and figured it was just an early scout. Regardless, I sent a worker out to deal with the scout at which point I saw all his SVC and realized I was being attacked with all his workers. The lone SVC I sent out to deal with the scout died, the SVC making the depot died, and I mismicroed the rest of my workers (I didn't really know about a-move and right clicked on things to attack them) and lost.

I'm not the type of person to give a troll the satisfaction of BM, but I did lift my CC to force him to go make vikings. I figured, if you're going to waste my time I'm going to waste yours. I told a friend about what happened and he mocked me, told me how to stop it from happening, and I moved on and kept laddering. I'm still awful but out of bronze league and have never lost to a worker rush since. However, I feel like while I should find this post funny or accept that fact that it's my fault for being so bad as to actually lose to a worker rush, I think it's still a pretty dick move.

You have people in bronze league who like me are trying very, very hard to learn a game and while things like this are instructive, your overall approach is pretty destructive imo. You were doing this against people who, like me, may not even really know why you would a-move rather than right click, or who maybe have never even had to use their workers to attack something before. I wonder if you actually demoralized anyone enough that they stopped playing SC2? In 1k wins you may have, and I think that's kind of lame.

On November 08 2011 02:07 Subversive wrote:

I see where you're coming from and I sympathise, but realistically, it's no different for a zerg player who loses repeatedly to 6 raxes or a terran getting continuously 4 gated. It's still as annoying as fuck and just something you need to learn to counter.

If we had the concept that people should never do anything that their opponent doesn't see coming then you'd first have to remove all cheese and all-ins, then remove all timing attacks and eventually, and following this logic, any attack at all. You may as well stop playing.

On November 08 2011 02:14 Elbows wrote:


If I lose to someone cheesing or doing something silly like this because it's something they want to try and they're actually a bronze level player, that's fine. I think my problem is with a diamond/plat level player doing this hundreds of times specifically to fuck with people who suck at the game for lulz. Funny, I get it, but still dick.

On November 08 2011 22:57 Subversive wrote:

Yeah that's reasonable. Any type of smurphing is pretty irritating. On the other hand, and to be fair, he is literally taking the worst strategy, rather than something viable. I can see why it might irritate though.