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Part 1: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=271453
Part 2: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=271998
Interlude: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=272765
On and on I went. A worker rusher. That's what I was, what I had become. When I would log onto SC2 my mouse would wander unthinkingly to the Find Match button. Before I would realize what I was doing, my SCVs were en route to the nearest enemy base. After hundreds of worker rushes, I had lost sight of what I was doing or why I was there.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5DDP9.jpg) Bronze league: Come for the panda decal. Stay for the bat-shit crazy.
The mystique of those first worker rushes had long since worn off. The games were short and they quickly became routine. Send workers, attack move, win game. Send workers, attack move, lose game. Over and over and over. It was so habitual that each time a bronzie decided to prolong the games unnecessarily I became enraged. It was more vexing when someone was doing it not out of spite, but out of some misguided newbie notion that he could still win the game. It's one thing to spend time teching to mutas to kill a floating CC just because someone is angry. It's another, more mentally taxing ordeal when 10 times a day you have to try to explain to people the logistical futility of lifting off to an island with 1 SCV while I still have 7 drones. It's like trying to explain to a tone deaf person who loves to sing that their singing is hurting the neighborhood cats. Whether you say "Look bro, you aren't a very good singer," or "Cut that shit out, it's causing Mr. Fluffkins to yowl," there is no way of doing it that will satisfactorily convince the singer that he should stop. Now imagine that you live in a high rise apartment where every tenant is one of those people, and you are tasked with silencing each of them. That is what worker rushing is like. It's a quagmire of BM, ignorance, and rage. Half of my games devolve into an elementary school math lesson taught to people who don't know how to count. It's frustrating.
So, after seeing the tenth Terran of the day lift off his Command Center and call me a noob, it takes every fiber of my being to resist rapidly typing out a paragraph explaining why the situation at hand, i.e. the fact that he just lost to a fucking worker rush, would seem to indicate the opposite of what he had proposed—that he was the noob, not me. That, in fact, you are all noobs. That the fact that you even have a similar MMR to someone who only worker rushes means that you are dogshit, and should be ashamed. Why are you here? Why are you in this game? Is not Farmville more suited to your level of skill? Agh!
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/wVtNo.jpg) So try asking for store credit?
Soon, I became so angry that my get-wins-quick scheme had a few irritating road blocks that I began to take it out on other, more innocent players. When I started just insulting bronze kids for no reason, that's when I recognized a problem. There was no justifying this. Why was I doing this? What was I gaining from it? They weren't leaving the games any faster just because I was explaining in great detail how retarded they were. If anything they remained indignant and stayed longer. So slowly, I decided to start changing my behavior. I couldn't quite bring myself to be completely mute, as I had been when I first started my journey. No, it is impossible to remain silent in the face of such irrationality, but I did resolve to become better.
So, dissatisfied with how my stay in the bronze league had altered my attitude, I decided to set up some rules for myself.
Rule 1: I would not GLHF. Neither sentiment would be sincere, as I do not wish my opponents good fortune nor care if they enjoyed themselves. I would GG if they GG first, but that's all.
Rule 2: I would try not to BM.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZrGDS.jpg) Exception: once in a lifetime pun opportunities
Rule 3: I would begin every game with a worker rush. If my opponent lifts to an island I would tech and kill him. In the event that I would meet a player who had BMed me before, I would not worker rush and instead utilize all my strength to crush him as best as I could under the weight of my middling platinum level macro as retribution.
Rule 4: If someone politely asked how to defeat my "strategy" without first calling me a faggot, I would answer them truthfully. If someone really wanted to learn how to play better, then I would respect that, despite how self-evident the response to a worker rush should be to anyone with any hope of ever improving.
Rule 5: I would use the portrait of Dr. Ariel Hanson until the Dark Voice is obtained, so as to disguise my number of wins from my opponent. I noticed that it became easy to detect enemy worker rushers because they would use portraits that were rewards for 250+ games.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bLM4D.jpg) I… may need to amend this clause.
So, new rules in mind, I decided to set a new course. I still had the eventual mission of winning my 3000 games, but If I focused only on that extremely far off goal, every little annoying delay would just anger me that much more. I would just frustrate myself to the point where I was once again flaming 13 year olds. To avoid that, I determined that I would stay in bronze not only for the quick wins, but for the stories. I would become a sort of Starcraft anthropologist, studying the primitive inhabitants who dwell in the lowest tiers of Starcraft 2. Thus, a blog was born.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/M3vJV.jpg) Do you think Jane Goodall ever wanted to throw the feces back at the monkeys? I know I do.
When I first arrived in the bronze league, I noticed something peculiar. Things are not always as they seem; people are not always who they appear to be. I quickly discovered that there were others like me; adventurers from higher leagues exploring the depths of bronze for interest or personal gain.
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/S4Yk9.jpg) Not all bronzies are happy with this arrangement.
Some were nice, others malicious. Some were simply loss botting, some were worker rushing, some were just trying out a new race and overshot when they were mass leaving games to lower their MMR. When I had first worker rushed myself down to bronze, I decided to start 6 raxing people. I didn't really have a build order or even know what I was doing, but the fact that I used hotkeys, control groups, and both hemispheres of my brain was enough to completely roll over every bronze opponent. Until one game, where a Terran managed to hold off the rush in convincing fashion. Then, he dropped Blue Flame Hellions into my base while transitioning into Marine/Tank. The game ended up being 50 minutes long and I felt utterly lost and behind the entire time. I checked his league after the game: he was platinum the previous season. I had lowered myself 3 leagues only to play the match up I hate the most against someone in the league I used to be in! This incident convinced me to only worker rush, for it was the quickest way to reveal if I was truly facing a bronze player, and not a higher level player masquerading as one.
Many of the players I met were, to my astonishment, master leaguers. In fact, I worker rushed one of them. And won.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r2KTK.jpg) No, he was not AFK. Yes, this is real. This happened. And you have to know that this replay exists, because I do, and I can't carry that burden alone. Others must share my confusion.
Most of my encounters with those of the master league have been negative, however. I know not whether they have, having played thousands more games in the bronze league than I, fallen victim to the primal urge to be a complete douchebag that I try desperately to avoid, or if they're just plain old douchebags. But, perhaps emboldened by the air of superiority that their master league achievement tag gives them, they are the douchiest of all the douches. While bronzies are content with blind, irrational fury, the masters have their own brand of sadistic crazy. Whereas I only want quick wins, these gentlemen want to inflict pain. Like this fellow, who told me I was shit before the game even started, and then proceeded to insult me for worker rushing even though he was also worker rushing, too.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nshcy.jpg) I know the ESRB label said " Game Experience May Change During Online Play," but I did not foresee that experience involving creepy psuedo-rapist prostitute shop-talk after a failed worker rush.
Another group wishes not to cause pain, but fight for righteousness. I call them les enragés, for they have been worker rushed time and time again and they are pissed (and because I'm a bit of a Francophile).
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7TxcG.jpg) I'm not sure, but I think he's mad.
Rather than learn how to attack move and defeat those worker rushing them, though, these trouser-wearing plebeians refuse to stand for what they deem the "faggotry" that I and others like myself perpetrate against their kind in their league. So they mete out justice with their weapons of choice: delirium and frantic, often penis-related insults. These internet warriors make up for what they lack in sense with sheer tenacity. Even those who choose to appear friendly on the outset of a game can quickly turn hostile when confronted by workers. For every GLHF, there is a following diatribe about the great lengths to which I will go to satisfy my love for dicks or a detailed account of my mother's sexual history. Or sometimes, something completely inexplicable.
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/HrsBN.jpg) Now I'm just not sure.
The most extreme version of an enragée is what I like to call a "terrorist." This person has discovered that his Command Center has an ability called "Lift Off" and by God he's going to use it no matter how many people get hurt in the process.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6mkjY.jpg) If I don't get a million dollars in unmarked bills and a Cessna with enough fuel to get to Cuba, you better bet your ass that I'm gonna float over here and wait for you to kill me. Just fucking try me.
One of the sadder groups I've encountered are the self-loathers. As I have hinted at, "bronze, bronzie, and bronze leaguer" are as much insults as they are demonyms. It is a phenomenon similar to the situation where if you say "Mike's a Jew," it's not racist, but if you wrinkle your nose and sneer "Mike's a Jew," you're an anti-semite. What I found strange, however, was that even among the bronze themselves, they use their own station as a slur.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/R0Ieb.jpg) Yes, that is generally the only place this is allowed to occur.
Players in the bronze league have convinced themselves that they are only in bronze because of some cosmic injustice. They are good players, they couldn't be bronze, right? It's just because of all the cheesers that they lose. If they could play macro games they'd be diamond for sure. It's just that a bronze player has to prepare for even more all-ins than grand masters, because the players in bronze are less predictable. Well, that's at least what they tell themselves. I thought the "forever bronze" meme was just a joke, but apparently it has a basis in reality: these people think they are stuck, the hopeless victims of some affliction that is anybody's fault but their own.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0bzIv.jpg) Well, that wasn't very nice, either.
Basically, my experiences in the bronze league boil down to a clusterfuck of hatred. People hating themselves, people hating me, people trolling just to cause hate. Most people just f10n out of the game, but nobody wants to look at 400 screen captures of people leaving the game wordlessly. There are, of course, nice people, but they aren't particularly interesting, either.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/EUxFd.jpg) Here's one, just so people will stop thinking I'm a complete asshole.
People have said that Starcraft 2 is the nicest gaming community. But down in the bronze league, I'm not seeing it. On progamer's streams, I'm not seeing it. Is there some "Isle of Niceness" between the two extremes? Perhaps, I most definitely saw less BM in gold and platinum than I do in the depths. I continue onward, however, because despite all the flaming and idiocy I still get a big fucking grin on my face when I successfully worker rush despite the nearly impossible odds. Also I want to have panda decals on my buildings.
On a serious note: I now understand why people have formed LGBT gaming communities. I used to not really see the point, but after spending time in the bronze league, I can see why. I'm just imagining some 15 year old kid just figuring out that he's gay, coming home from a shitty day in high school and then seeing this shit (read bottom to top):
Rednecks can be amusing, however.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0Ff52.jpg) Uh, enjoy vag, pusshound? I don’t even know what to say.
So I'll be removing "faggot" from my insult repertoire, because even though I never really intended it as an anti-gay slur, there's way too much of it online anyway.
Part 4: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=283221
 
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I'm not sure what to say.
This sounds really fun. I'm considering it (or something similar), though I'm more serious about playing SC2 and getting better so perhaps I will leave it to you for now 
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This is actually pretty funny.
Also, who said that the SC2 community is nice? The amount of moderation in the SC2 forums alone is proof that it is not.
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"You should not use your own rank as an insult" xD
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This is my favotite blog on TL, auto 5 stars it`s that funny.
Also, how many games until the panda decal?
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So this is the real world, the real world of the bronze league. Well written blog, it gave me a few laughs and gratefulness that I don't have to deal with this in Master league
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On a serious note: I now understand why people have formed LGBT gaming communities. I used to not really see the point, but after spending time in the bronze league, I can see why. I'm just imagining some 15 year old kid just figuring out that he's gay, coming home from a shitty day in high school and then seeing this shit
Srsly. Ditto for girls. It's like the people who have a problem with it have never been online or something.
So I'll be removing "faggot" from my insult repertoire, because even though I never really intended it as an anti-gay slur, there's way too much of it online anyway.
Good on you. =)
Also... how do people lose to a-move workers...? ...?? Man.
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"something im prepared to do"
lolol
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I feel I can safely say you're an idiot
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i enjoyed the read. good luck with your darkvoice portrait farming escapades!
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Through every blog my respect for this great man Gheed increases.
Only few have the stamina and strength to do what you do.
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I imagine you might have figured this out already, but here's some advice for you:
If you see your opponent is Terran, leave the game immediately. Things will go so much smoother.
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I SIRLed. I LOLed. I voted 5/5. I can't say I support what you're doing, but it makes for a hell of a great read.
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You sir are a king of trolling, "You shouldn't use your own rank as an insult".
I support you even though I hate your kind
Continue fighting
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Troll people, insult them, bury them in their own stupidity.
I would rage against you but I would like to be you to be rage at.
So delightful are the promises of the human heart.
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I'm pretty BM on the Ladder( I'm masters). Especially if i get Cheesed.
i win alot of 8 pool double spine crawler rushes in ZvZ's on the Ladder; I bet i could pwn you if you tried to worker Rush me.
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http://drop.sc/52214
I worker rushed a Plat terran today for my placement match and won.
Unfortunately I didn't get any funny BM, he just left the game without saying anything.
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I don't know how the hell the OP is allowed to post on Team Liquid. I thought we had some standards here or at least a little self-respect. But no, we house these charlatans and subsequently get bamboozled and shellacked.
Just FYI, don't do business with the OP. I payed a good 2000 gold for a rare and ancient unidentified belt....know what he sent me?
Cracked Sash. Ethreal no less. I tried to get my money back, but he already swapped out his wares and insisted we never did business.
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Haha, lots of amusing stories but I don't know how you manage to enjoy it. Its certainly not as stressful as regular starcraft I guess :p
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Cant believe i read your whole blog, but i have to admit it's pretty funny, even though i cant understand how one can grind out so many games only for a few achievements..
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I found nothing funny at all with the OP. To do it once in a while is fine, but to write on TL as you "are cleaver" for using this, is just terrible. That is all.
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Hahaha, funny blog.
GL to Dark Voice!
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Good read, even if just for the pictures
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So much time into a useless post and more time wasted in playing sc2 to worker rush. Probably because your still a virgin. Sad.
User was banned for this post.
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On November 02 2011 20:05 deepestmofo wrote:
So much time into a useless post and more time wasted in playing sc2 to worker rush. Probably because your still a virgin. Sad.
LOL its kinda of funny though its like his own Little Story and Adventure into the Depths of Bronze and worker Rushing Thousands/Hundreds of Games.
God Kid You must really get off on pwning those Bronzies with Workers Ladder Anxiety Much?
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The Fortunes of War. Gheed's Fortunes of War.
Glad this was spotlighted, or I would've missed. Humorous, good catalog of responses, good variety in pictures.
And the noob responses. You get the sense that they try to mix it up. They try to craft something so insulting that you are offended. But they are all accusations of closet homosexuality, tales of adventure with my mom, or comparisons of myself to male/female anatomy. It's great.
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This is pretty fantastic. A good story is always welcome.
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Oh wow, spotlight. Haha, thanks whoever did that.
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On November 02 2011 20:10 Gheed wrote:
Oh wow, spotlight. Haha, thanks whoever did that.
I hope bronze leaguers recognize your id and prepare the shit.
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>Worker rush every game.
>Wonder why people lift their CC to prolong the game.
Usually I would laugh but the fact that you got mad when people did this kind of irritated me -_O.
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Pretty lame imo. You're just wasting people's time just so you can get some picture. Bronzies are humans too
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Great read, I was in silver and gold and never once have I been worker rushed.
I feel like I am missing out.
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This is pretty amazing, hahaha
Don't listen to any haters. You can play the game any way you want and the results are hilarious
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On November 02 2011 20:05 deepestmofo wrote:
So much time into a useless post and more time wasted in playing sc2 to worker rush. Probably because your still a virgin. Sad.
I'm not sure what you aim to accomplish with calling him a virgin. Really, what did he do to you to deserve such needless insults? He wrote a well-thought out blog post with good wording and with a lot of effort put into it. Not to mention the effort and perseverance in character it takes to worker rush SO much and still have some sense of humor about it. It's a fun project, and I don't think what he does in his free-time is or should be a concern of yours.
Leave Gheed alone 
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On November 02 2011 20:05 deepestmofo wrote:
So much time into a useless post and more time wasted in playing sc2 to worker rush. Probably because your still a virgin. Sad.
That's got nothing to do with anything
Funny, Gheed
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Great write-up Gheed! I also like how your name rhymes with the vice which you exhibit. I hope you'll keep on going and will write many more of these anthropological reports.
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Good read. Do you ever plan on taking ladder serious again or just stick to bronze to interact with enraged people?
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thanks for the replay pack know i can learn to worker rush
oh wait i'd rather not go to bronze like you
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I know i shouldn't condone portrait farming; but this was absolutely amazing! What a read! Hilarious and insightful =D
Thanks gheed!
P.S. awesome work on that masters league guy LOL
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This made my head hurt. People really don't like losing do they heh.
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lol reading the responses can be a good way to see who still doesn't know how to defend cheese
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So Gheed are you going to become a psychologists for the Bronze Leaguers that you defeat with your worker rush.
It must be so disheartening to Lose to Worker Rushes. -_-
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wow im speechless (but at least i can still write)
I dont know whether to be disgusted at the amount of hate this has been spreading at the lower tiers of the ladders
Be indifferent because anyone playing starcraft could learn to beat this, if they spend 60 mins of forums or asked some1 in a chat channel
Or be happy on your behalf that starcraft 2 accomodates everyone, even someone willing to play 3000 boring games to farm a portrait.
ill let you know if i decide anything 
/Bluehawk
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Awesome, I love antropology xD
Also love the rage/qq in this topic
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Humans certainly are interesting creatures, aren't they?
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On November 02 2011 19:03 EatThePath wrote:
Also... how do people lose to a-move workers...? ...?? Man.
See the interlude for just how I'm winning games.
On November 02 2011 19:30 Ghin wrote:
If you see your opponent is Terran, leave the game immediately.
I have heard that the first person to get the dark voice icon did that. However, Blizzard said (in a kind of roundabout way) that leaving a bunch of games would be manipulating the ladder. I doubt they would do anything, but I don't want to spam leave games anyway. I fear that if I left too many games it will become difficult to find a match, which was what happened at the top/low end of the Warcraft 3 ladder. Plus a disproportionately high number of bronze league players are Terran.
On November 02 2011 19:50 XRaDiiX wrote:
I bet i could pwn you if you tried to worker Rush me.
I would certainly hope so.
On November 02 2011 20:16 OrangeSoda wrote:
Good read. Do you ever plan on taking ladder serious again or just stick to bronze to interact with enraged people?
Eventually I'll rise back up. We'll see how badly my skills (such that they were) have deteriorated.
RE: 'Why waste my time' posts: I do it because it's fun, and it gives me something to write about, which I have fun doing. My losses are 1 minute long, my wins average 5 minutes, and I usually do it while watching TV or a stream. So I'm not wasting any more of my time than anyone else who plays a video game.
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That, in fact, you are all noobs. That the fact that you even have a similar MMR to someone who only worker rushes means that you are dogshit, and should be ashamed. Why are you here? Why are you in this game? Is not Farmville more suited to your level of skill? Agh! Rather than learn how to attack move and defeat those worker rushing them, though, these trouser-wearing plebeians refuse to stand for what they deem the "faggotry" that I and others like myself perpetrate against their kind in their league. So they mete out justice with their weapons of choice: delirium and frantic, often penis-related insults. These internet warriors make up for what they lack in sense with sheer tenacity. Don't be so high and mighty. People just aren't good at the game. That's why they're in bronze. Yeah, sure, they get mad all the time. If you don't like it, there's an option to mute your opponents ingame as well as in chat.
If you want to humiliate people who you know aren't good at the game just to get achievements or decals, be my guest. But don't take a shit on their faces and demand that they enjoy eating it too.
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So much of this reminds me of when I tanked my account after switching races.
Every once in a while you run into another who's ventured down from the higher leagues. You show up at their ramp ready to end the game only to see a...forcefield!?...with units and workers a plenty ready to defend? Their defense holds and you realize you've run into another.
What has brought you too to these forsaken lands? You do no belong here.
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Loved reading this. Your writing style is very good and you mix humor with classical English, it kind of feel as if Edgar Allan Poe rose from the dead to troll bronzies.
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So funny, good job sir xD
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oh nooblark i remember ppl raging about him lols
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Good reading
Made me go read the 3 other parts also
gg
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despite the fact that i would hate meeting you on ladder, this is one of the best reads i have had on TL.
this is the true face of starcraft. sort of sparta.
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Im a BM bitch but some of that is pretty harsh lol
On a side note, losing to a worker rush is pretty hillarious.
I lost to it once when i first got the game, my immediate question was, how do i attack move? i knew it existed, i just didnt know how
I dont understand how people can be so bad at this game i know most people start in bronze and progress up like i did, but there arent as many newcomers to SC2 like before, so this is the same old noobie boobies
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Insanely funny post. On the side note, I think the reason there are a lot of people in bronze thinking that they are only stuck at bronze because of cheese is that with that kind of mentality, you will be stuck in bronze.. am I making sense o_O
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The problem with excessive trolls is that it's the NA bronze league, not bronze league in general. SEA is much friendlier.
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Haha that was a fun read, thanks for posting :D
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lol - it's hilarious that some people get mad at this. Just like all mass-cheesing - worker rushers are actually helping the rest of the SC2 population learn to play the game better at the expense of their own time (even though they probably don't see themselves that way :p). It's good that bronze leaguers get worker rushed to death because if they couldn't even be bothered to google worker rush and learn how to stop it, they are certainly not ready for playing proper games.
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I love these, keep going I cannot wait until you're the worker rush bonjwa.
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I just read the full worker rush series. It was great, thank you for this.
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Great read! You write really well and have wit. Now i'm thinking of trying this haha.
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You are an artist dude =)
Nice post !
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I'm surprised you aren't banned on bnet. I'd think people would report you. Worker rushing isn't bannable, but it appears you do throw around your fair share of insults.
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Thankyou - I laughed more at your worker rush blogs than I have done at anything in a long while. 
I cannot tell you how tempted I am to go and hit the EU ladder right away and do the same thing!
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On November 02 2011 21:13 Inori wrote:Show nested quote +That, in fact, you are all noobs. That the fact that you even have a similar MMR to someone who only worker rushes means that you are dogshit, and should be ashamed. Why are you here? Why are you in this game? Is not Farmville more suited to your level of skill? Agh! I'm kinda having hard time understanding if this is troll or for reals. if it's the latter, then a.) Some people are just starting, they might not even know that workers can attack b.) These are some high and mighty words coming from someone that didn't even get out of plat
Heya there, this is the quote police!
Don't grab quotes out of context like that. He was clearly describing himself getting frustrated. Those were the thoughts coming to his head while angry... Good writing, on top of that.
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"Uhm, enjoy your vag, pusshound?" made me lol irl.
But I don't think I'm alone in asking:
a) How long until dark voice?
b) Will you ever take ladder seriously again?
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Cool blog, while I don't necessarily condone what you're doing I do find it funny to read about, and surprised at the amount of hate you got, not on the ladder obviously that's very expected but on TL, some of you dudes need to lighten up.
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Why do people portrait farm?
Seems pretty pointless
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On November 02 2011 21:16 Scorch wrote:
I'm surprised you aren't banned on bnet. I'd think people would report you. Worker rushing isn't bannable, but it appears you do throw around your fair share of insults.
If Deezer hasn't been banned in any of his incarnations, what makes you think this guy would be? People who quit over losing to him probably would not have made it far anyway.
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lol good writeup. i thought it was cute.
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Hilarious. Although in my experience (from way back) bronzies are mostly quite nice.
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Idk, these worker rush posts - a collection of negativity stemming from a useless ritual even the OP finds no fun in. It's kind of sad/psycho.
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I want to love your stories, but just... please... stop calling people faggots.
Just stop.
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Players in the bronze league have convinced themselves that they are only in bronze because of some cosmic injustice. They are good players, they couldn't be bronze, right? It's just because of all the cheesers that they lose. If they could play macro games they'd be diamond for sure. It's just that a bronze player has to prepare for even more all-ins than grand masters, because the players in bronze are less predictable. Well, that's at least what they tell themselves. I thought the "forever bronze" meme was just a joke, but apparently it has a basis in reality: these people think they are stuck, the hopeless victims of some affliction that is anybody's fault but their own.
Someone's been browsing the B.Net forums
Interesting, it just confirms what everyone already thought about the bronze league. I admire the ones that ask how they can defend it rather than rage about it, showing an actual interest in improvement.
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Lovely read, as always.
The rage in this thread adds to the hilarity. I'm surprised noone called him fag yet, since it seems to be the choice word. I guess virgin will have to do.
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God, these blogs are so funny. Keep it up!
Edit- I wonder how many people have quit playing SC2 for good because of the OP?
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How close are you to getting the portrait? :O
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being a boss aint no thang
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very well done blog. it reminds me of cracked.com articles, with the pictures with hilarious captions underneath.
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You know, I don't think it's really acceptable to rage as much as people do when you lose to cheese. We've all been cheesed before, and it's not like it's the other guy's fault. It's not like he's cheating or something, he's doing something that's possible in the confines of SC2 and you weren't prepared for it and lost. Honestly I think losing to a worker rush is the best example because... you just have to A-move your workers and you win. It's not like a proxy 2 gate/rax or an early pool. You just A-move.
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Almost feel like doing a little expedition to the bronzeleague with a couple of scvs after reading this.
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Read all four blog posts, absolutely great. Well done very funny!
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oh wow, this is the funniest thing I've read in weeks. 5/5. LOL.
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On November 02 2011 22:35 CurrrBell wrote:
You know, I don't think it's really acceptable to rage as much as people do when you lose to cheese. We've all been cheesed before, and it's not like it's the other guy's fault. It's not like he's cheating or something, he's doing something that's possible in the confines of SC2 and you weren't prepared for it and lost. Honestly I think losing to a worker rush is the best example because... you just have to A-move your workers and you win. It's not like a proxy 2 gate/rax or an early pool. You just A-move.
it's not cheese. read the whole thing mang
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Sorry, but I personally disapprove to this style of play... Just because people of higher leauges technically CAN do this pic farming in bronze league just does not mean it's okay to do so and I really don't get the point where this is super satisfying to own noobs just to get some portraits lol
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This is amazing, great read!
Does bring back a bad beta memory for me though.
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HAhahah, this is hilarious
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On November 02 2011 22:50 Creager wrote:
Sorry, but I personally disapprove to this style of play... Just because people of higher leauges technically CAN do this pic farming in bronze league just does not mean it's okay to do so and I really don't get the point where this is super satisfying to own noobs just to get some portraits lol
lol
His mmr is literally matched equal to theirs; An absurdly low MMR where worker rushing apparently is viable. You don't value portraits as much as others, either, which makes it easy to dismiss the difficulty of obtaining portraits through high level macro play. It might as well should be a feat; it takes years without playing an unreasonable amount of time per day/week.
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On November 02 2011 19:54 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
I don't know how the hell the OP is allowed to post on Team Liquid. I thought we had some standards here or at least a little self-respect. But no, we house these charlatans and subsequently get bamboozled and shellacked.
Just FYI, don't do business with the OP. I payed a good 2000 gold for a rare and ancient unidentified belt....know what he sent me?
Cracked Sash. Ethreal no less. I tried to get my money back, but he already swapped out his wares and insisted we never did business.
I literally fell out of my chair laughing. This was almost as good as the OP.
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On November 02 2011 19:54 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
I don't know how the hell the OP is allowed to post on Team Liquid. I thought we had some standards here or at least a little self-respect. But no, we house these charlatans and subsequently get bamboozled and shellacked.
Just FYI, don't do business with the OP. I payed a good 2000 gold for a rare and ancient unidentified belt....know what he sent me?
Cracked Sash. Ethreal no less. I tried to get my money back, but he already swapped out his wares and insisted we never did business.
God yeah. Keep him away from D3.
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Funny concept, but it's unfortunate that hatespeech towards homosexuals is your go-to insult. Could've been funny.
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this is awesome and sad at the same time.
It would however be nice if the gaming community would learn some real words :D
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That was very well written OP. At first I was quite disgusted by your behaviour but I'm really happy that you realized that you had started taking it too seriously for your own good as well. I like the rules you setup for yourself and I think passive-aggressive trolling in response to BM is definitely much more entertaining than the BM you had originally started with.
However, just remember that some of these people are just starting and you may be the first person they played online. As someone who has ladderphobia I know how debilitating it can be to finally summon the courage to play a game and then end up dying to something silly. Of course, I know better now and know that if I lose to something stupid then it's my own stupid fault, but someone new might not feel the same way. I'm just saying be careful because that sort of thing can be quite a traumatizing experience to newbs.
Anyway, enjoyed the read. Good luck with your portrait farming!
P.S.
If an experience like this can teach you to remove "faggot" from your vocabulary then I think it's already worthwhile.
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On November 02 2011 23:07 SCJethro wrote:
Funny concept, but it's unfortunate that hatespeech towards homosexuals is your go-to insult. Could've been funny.
I think you've missed a South Park episode on the meaning of "fag" "faggot", here's a link, but watch the entire show and look up the etymology of "faggot".
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Starcraft 2 is an incredibly hard, frustrating game, outside of the game, we have the best gaming community ever. We continuously support charities, etc... Seems pretty unfair to bash the whole community based on what you see IN the game.
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Yes, it is a well written blog and entertaining in some way, but what you are doing is horrible...
Do you realise that you are ruining the sc2 experience for hundreds of people just picking up starcraft 2? People that have heard from some friend about how awesome the game is, went and bought it and started some ladder games which placed them at the bottom. completely normal. Then they run into people like you... They are starting to understand that it is important to build scvs at the start, and they are just starting to pick up the habit of pressing "s" rather than using the mouse to build scvs.
Suddenly when they are trying to keep track of their supply to know when they should build the depot, they see probes running in to their base, and they panic and watch their scvs being killed. FUCK! They see the probes starting to attack their command center. What to do?! WHAT TO DO??
They remember that cool move from the campaign that you can lift of building, and they realise that your probes cant attack air, so they lift off. They have found a solution to this new problem and they feel smart. Hmm, now what. they start looking a the minimap to see if there are any good places to go.
Then what happens? They guy they are playing start lecturing them on how retarded they are and how little they know about starcraft... He treats them like little children that dont understand anything. They feel insulted, they just picked up the game, they are not stupid, just inexperienced against this attack.
The next day they meet their friend that introduced starcraft to them. The friend greets him with an expecting smile and asks
"Hey, did you try playing? How was it?"
The bronze leaguer opens the mouth. And closes it again. They with a disappointed voice he replies
"Well, the games seems cool, but battlenet is full of kids being bad mannered it kindof takes the fun out of it..."
The friend knows all too well what he is talking about. He loves starcraft and have played many years, and have learned to ignore the darker sides of battle net. He wants to transmit the love for the game to the bronze leaguer, but cannot find words to explain how he should ignore the bad manners he encounters. All he manages to say after a short pause is
"hmm, yeah, some are like that.."
By the end of the year, the friend sees the bronze leaguers account in his friends list.
89/100, bronze. 4 wins.
Last online: 5 months.
He sighs and removes him from the friend list. He know that he will never log in again. He couldn't even convince him to play a 2on2...
Well done on blocking the influx of new players to sc2.
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While this is hysterical enough to deserve a spotlight, in the name of all that is sacred about starcraft it should not have been spotlighted. Copycats will ruin the bronze league for the next few days.
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Does it really work much anymore? With the longer maps than were available a year ago, I found it very frustrating to do (I tried it for 50 games about 6 months ago) with the longer rush distances.
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On November 02 2011 23:17 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 23:07 SCJethro wrote:
Funny concept, but it's unfortunate that hatespeech towards homosexuals is your go-to insult. Could've been funny.
I think you've missed a South Park episode on the meaning of "fag" "faggot", here's a link, but watch the entire show and look up the etymology of "faggot".
I'm not bothering to watch it, but I'll assume you're making a frivolous argument about connotation versus denotation, despite the fact the we all know which connotative use is being employed. -_-
As such, I hope you're just kidding. But sadly, you're probably not.
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The worst part is that he seems proud of what he's doing... The only redeeming part of the post as a whole is the last sentence.
I have a bronzie friend that's horrible and every week or so, she needs someone to go play some games on her account to get the MMR back up to a point where she's not constantly facing worker rushers... so she can actually have some fun. If she didn't know anyone to do that for her, she would have given up on the game already. You're driving people away from the game.
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On November 02 2011 23:25 psychopat wrote:
The worst part is that he seems proud of what he's doing... The only redeeming part of the post as a whole is the last sentence.
I have a bronzie friend that's horrible and every week or so, she needs someone to go play some games on her account to get the MMR back up to a point where she's not constantly facing worker rushers... so she can actually have some fun. If she didn't know anyone to do that for her, she would have given up on the game already. You're driving people away from the game.
What the fuck? People win games for her instead of, I don't know... teaching her how to a-move?
This is literally the easiest thing in the game to beat. If she's constantly facing worker rushes, she should be winning (because it's so easy to do) and getting her MMR to a decent point on her own.
OT: Love this series, it's hilarious :D Hope there'll be another :D
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She's a bad bronzie trying to have fun; what do you expect? Doesn't scout yet and rarely checks the minimap so she's not aware they're coming until they've already flooded in. By the time she reacts, she's already lost the SCV building the depot/barracks and usually another one, making it a "fair" fight in terms of numbers so it comes down to micro. Since most of the people doing this are gold+, there's a decided difference in micro abilities. That means she loses and gets frustrated and doesn't play for a while (since she'll just get matched up against the same guy if she queues up again anyway)
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Why is this spotlighted... I think doing this to "bronzies" is really fucking BM. Besides, what's the point of achievements if you're not actually achieving anything?
Well written though, I guess
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How far are you right now?
Also have you noticed that everybody who bm's you is terran? XD
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On November 02 2011 23:39 psychopat wrote:
She's a bad bronzie trying to have fun; what do you expect? Doesn't scout yet and rarely checks the minimap so she's not aware they're coming until they've already flooded in. By the time she reacts, she's already lost the SCV building the depot/barracks and usually another one, making it a "fair" fight in terms of numbers so it comes down to micro. Since most of the people doing this are gold+, there's a decided difference in micro abilities. That means she loses and gets frustrated and doesn't play for a while (since she'll just get matched up against the same guy if she queues up again anyway)
This sounds wrong, I have a similar friend who plays (with the same faults) and one of the first things we did on customs was practice about 10 games against worker rushing (I was doing the worker rushing). She's never lost to that again... Teach her, don't win games for her...
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Why does this got featured? Some dude bming and hating around and being proud of it? Is there some kind of joke to it that doesn't make the OP a huge douche that enjoys making fun of lowbies and calling them faggots?
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because the writing is fantastic! I am totally using that anti-heterosexual slur next time I get the rage.
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On November 02 2011 23:25 psychopat wrote:
I have a bronzie friend that's horrible and every week or so, she needs someone to go play some games on her account to get the MMR back up to a point where she's not constantly facing worker rushers... so she can actually have some fun.
This seems super counter-intuitive. Why not teach her how to play? And does she want to have fun or to win? :/
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On November 02 2011 23:50 Pholon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 23:25 psychopat wrote:
I have a bronzie friend that's horrible and every week or so, she needs someone to go play some games on her account to get the MMR back up to a point where she's not constantly facing worker rushers... so she can actually have some fun. This seems super counter-intuitive. Why not teach her how to play? And does she want to have fun or to win? :/
Yeah time would be better spent teaching her a basic build order. ;/
No need to hate Gheed for what he's doing btw. Just no need. Sure he worker rushes but he doesn't ruin the "SC2 experience". Blame SC2's design flaws (that worker rushes are viable at all) if anything. Either way, it was an excellent read and I laughed quite a bit irl. ^^
Gheed I'm curious do you follow the competitive SC2 scene?
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On November 02 2011 23:54 Incognoto wrote:
No need to hate Gheed for what he's doing btw. Just no need. Sure he worker rushes but he doesn't ruin the "SC2 experience". . ^^
I agree. The fact that a lot of people are enjoying this read only further extends the SC2 experience to more advanced people who can enjoy the mindless bm of lower league people!
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On November 02 2011 23:47 MisterFred wrote:
because the writing is fantastic! I am totally using that anti-heterosexual slur next time I get the rage.
So as long as it's well-written we can call people faggots now?
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On November 02 2011 23:41 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 23:39 psychopat wrote:
She's a bad bronzie trying to have fun; what do you expect? Doesn't scout yet and rarely checks the minimap so she's not aware they're coming until they've already flooded in. By the time she reacts, she's already lost the SCV building the depot/barracks and usually another one, making it a "fair" fight in terms of numbers so it comes down to micro. Since most of the people doing this are gold+, there's a decided difference in micro abilities. That means she loses and gets frustrated and doesn't play for a while (since she'll just get matched up against the same guy if she queues up again anyway) This sounds wrong, I have a similar friend who plays (with the same faults) and one of the first things we did on customs was practice about 10 games against worker rushing (I was doing the worker rushing). She's never lost to that again... Teach her, don't win games for her...
"Oh right, now I can play starcraft 2! Let's go!"
"Hmm, wait... before you play your first game, we need to run drills for an hour or two."
"What, why? I want to play..."
"Yeah, i understand, but there are these people that want to get this in-game achievement above anything else, and to get that they have to abuse starting players like you. Just to make them not ruin the experience for you we will have to run these drills for an hour before you start."
*sob* "but want to blay be gabe... TT"
Welcome to starcraft! >_>
And what about those that pick up starcraft that does not have experienced sc2 friends that will babysit them? We wont hear about them here on teamliquid naturally, as any friend of anyone on TL will have at least on friend with sc2 experience. But I'm sure there are plenty of them.
This kind of stories makes me want to drop my rating to low bronze and just be really nice to everyone and help them out and let them have fun down there. Cute little cuddly bronzies!! They are the future players, and maybe more importantly, they are the future audience of e-sports. I know this expression is being thrown around a lot, but here it actually applies. You're hurting e-sports dude!
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I respect that you realized how dumb it is to BM these people
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If this blog looked something like this:
bm'ing bronzies and worker rushing is fun rofl, it even works sometimes!
With some extra padding, it wouldn't of got spotlighted. To my knowledge, anyway. Whoever spotlighted this probably wasn't thinking "Oh! This guy worker rushes and BM's! Two great things, let's spotlight that sucker!"
No. I don't presume to speak for TL staff here, but if you look at what actually gets spotlighted (in blogs, at least) it's usually long, well-written, funny blogs that had a lot of effort put into them. This blog is exactly that; and it's not like he's advocating rape or anything too horrible.
These people acting as if this is actually ruining the entertainment of "100's of people" are being a little silly, to be honest. It's not that big of a deal.
Really, I've had these kinds of people from bronze-gold who get really frustrated when they lose just in general. SC2 isn't really that much of a pick up and play game as most console games are, if you want to be somewhat competitive at your level you can't expect it to be all funsies.
Oh, and get over him calling somebody a "faggot" once. Yes, it's silly to use slurs like that, but acting all offended that this blog got featured because the OP said "faggot" once is overboard.
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I read the whole thing, and it made me laugh pretty hard.
Your wit made me smile, although I feel sad for those who don't know how to stop a worker rush (because I'm sure that most people- regardless of level, unless they're at master or GM- have encountered a build that they just auto-lose to).
If what you're doing makes you happy, keep doing it. I'm not one for BM, but the conversations seem pretty damn amusing. And heck, cheese and all-ins are part of the game.
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What I learned:
1.Calling people a fag is a popular insult (seriously it makes me sad how popular this is).
2. People in bronze has no idea how to react to dumb stuff.
Well written though, and I had some good laughs.
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On November 03 2011 00:04 marttorn wrote:If this blog looked something like this: With some extra padding, it wouldn't of got spotlighted. To my knowledge, anyway. Whoever spotlighted this probably wasn't thinking "Oh! This guy worker rushes and BM's! Two great things, let's spotlight that sucker!" No. I don't presume to speak for TL staff here, but if you look at what actually gets spotlighted (in blogs, at least) it's usually long, well-written, funny blogs that had a lot of effort put into them. This blog is exactly that; and it's not like he's advocating rape or anything too horrible. These people acting as if this is actually ruining the entertainment of "100's of people" are being a little silly, to be honest. It's not that big of a deal.
No, it's not that big of a deal. I don't want the OP to die in a fire or something. But I would like people being banned for calling others faggots and making a blog about how proud they are of their BMing and being a dick, instead of spotlighting them. But I guess making newbies hate Starcraft is okay now, cause LOL it's so funny.
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5 Stars as always <3 ur blog
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On November 02 2011 19:54 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
I don't know how the hell the OP is allowed to post on Team Liquid. I thought we had some standards here or at least a little self-respect. But no, we house these charlatans and subsequently get bamboozled and shellacked.
Just FYI, don't do business with the OP. I payed a good 2000 gold for a rare and ancient unidentified belt....know what he sent me?
Cracked Sash. Ethreal no less. I tried to get my money back, but he already swapped out his wares and insisted we never did business.
I lolzed.
Epic blog, sir. Honestly I would never have guessed masters can lose to a worker rush.
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This was really fun to read. You remind me of my friend, expect he's not portrait farming, he just really likes to worker rush cause he actually finds it fun. Keeping fighting to good fight.
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On November 03 2011 00:09 blackone wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 00:04 marttorn wrote:If this blog looked something like this: bm'ing bronzies and worker rushing is fun rofl, it even works sometimes! With some extra padding, it wouldn't of got spotlighted. To my knowledge, anyway. Whoever spotlighted this probably wasn't thinking "Oh! This guy worker rushes and BM's! Two great things, let's spotlight that sucker!" No. I don't presume to speak for TL staff here, but if you look at what actually gets spotlighted (in blogs, at least) it's usually long, well-written, funny blogs that had a lot of effort put into them. This blog is exactly that; and it's not like he's advocating rape or anything too horrible. These people acting as if this is actually ruining the entertainment of "100's of people" are being a little silly, to be honest. It's not that big of a deal. No, it's not that big of a deal. I don't want the OP to die in a fire or something. But I would like people being banned for calling others faggots and making a blog about how proud they are of their BMing and being a dick, instead of spotlighting them. But I guess making newbies hate Starcraft is okay now, cause LOL it's so funny.
It looks to me like all the "faggot" insults are from his opponents not him.
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On November 03 2011 00:11 diophan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 00:09 blackone wrote:On November 03 2011 00:04 marttorn wrote:If this blog looked something like this: bm'ing bronzies and worker rushing is fun rofl, it even works sometimes! With some extra padding, it wouldn't of got spotlighted. To my knowledge, anyway. Whoever spotlighted this probably wasn't thinking "Oh! This guy worker rushes and BM's! Two great things, let's spotlight that sucker!" No. I don't presume to speak for TL staff here, but if you look at what actually gets spotlighted (in blogs, at least) it's usually long, well-written, funny blogs that had a lot of effort put into them. This blog is exactly that; and it's not like he's advocating rape or anything too horrible. These people acting as if this is actually ruining the entertainment of "100's of people" are being a little silly, to be honest. It's not that big of a deal. No, it's not that big of a deal. I don't want the OP to die in a fire or something. But I would like people being banned for calling others faggots and making a blog about how proud they are of their BMing and being a dick, instead of spotlighting them. But I guess making newbies hate Starcraft is okay now, cause LOL it's so funny. It looks to me like all the "faggot" insults are from his opponents not him.
Then you haven't looked at the very first picture in the OP.
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On November 03 2011 00:12 blackone wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 00:11 diophan wrote:On November 03 2011 00:09 blackone wrote:On November 03 2011 00:04 marttorn wrote:If this blog looked something like this: bm'ing bronzies and worker rushing is fun rofl, it even works sometimes! With some extra padding, it wouldn't of got spotlighted. To my knowledge, anyway. Whoever spotlighted this probably wasn't thinking "Oh! This guy worker rushes and BM's! Two great things, let's spotlight that sucker!" No. I don't presume to speak for TL staff here, but if you look at what actually gets spotlighted (in blogs, at least) it's usually long, well-written, funny blogs that had a lot of effort put into them. This blog is exactly that; and it's not like he's advocating rape or anything too horrible. These people acting as if this is actually ruining the entertainment of "100's of people" are being a little silly, to be honest. It's not that big of a deal. No, it's not that big of a deal. I don't want the OP to die in a fire or something. But I would like people being banned for calling others faggots and making a blog about how proud they are of their BMing and being a dick, instead of spotlighting them. But I guess making newbies hate Starcraft is okay now, cause LOL it's so funny. It looks to me like all the "faggot" insults are from his opponents not him. Then you haven't looked at the very first picture in the OP.
Alright I guess he says it once, and then later says he understands it's a problem and he's not going to do it anymore. He also doesn't say he's proud of BM'ing, in fact he said he realized he needed to stop. It seems like you wanted to complain about something and made this guy into your strawman.
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On November 03 2011 00:09 blackone wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 00:04 marttorn wrote:If this blog looked something like this: bm'ing bronzies and worker rushing is fun rofl, it even works sometimes! With some extra padding, it wouldn't of got spotlighted. To my knowledge, anyway. Whoever spotlighted this probably wasn't thinking "Oh! This guy worker rushes and BM's! Two great things, let's spotlight that sucker!" No. I don't presume to speak for TL staff here, but if you look at what actually gets spotlighted (in blogs, at least) it's usually long, well-written, funny blogs that had a lot of effort put into them. This blog is exactly that; and it's not like he's advocating rape or anything too horrible. These people acting as if this is actually ruining the entertainment of "100's of people" are being a little silly, to be honest. It's not that big of a deal. No, it's not that big of a deal. I don't want the OP to die in a fire or something. But I would like people being banned for calling others faggots and making a blog about how proud they are of their BMing and being a dick, instead of spotlighting them. But I guess making newbies hate Starcraft is okay now, cause LOL it's so funny.
He didn't make one about how "proud" he was that he's making bronzies BM him. As I said, in one single game which he happened to show the chatlog of, he called somebody a faggot. Soon after, he said that wasn't smart and made fun of people that do such things.
He's not "making newbies hate starcraft" either, and without knowing all these people you can't say that. If these people that got worker rushed actually have "what it takes" to keep playing Starcraft they won't get all demoralized and quit after one loss to a worker rush. Maybe they'll get pissed, but that's also just part of playing the ladder.
He wasn't really "being a dick" either. Worker rushing is a dick move? Expecting people to know how to 1A is a dick move? He only ever really was a dick to people when they were a much bigger dick to him first. He replies to them with wit and cleverness. And he doesn't call everyone faggots lol ^^;
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On November 03 2011 00:16 marttorn wrote:
He wasn't really "being a dick" either. Worker rushing is a dick move? Expecting people to know how to 1A is a dick move?
Worker rushing while having an intentionally low MMR so you play against people who play their very first games of Starcraft is absolutely a dick move. It's like going to a primary school football game as a 150kg guy, slamming some kid to the ground and saying "haha that's part of the game". And than making a blog about that. And doing it 3000 times.
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On November 03 2011 00:18 blackone wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 00:16 marttorn wrote:
He wasn't really "being a dick" either. Worker rushing is a dick move? Expecting people to know how to 1A is a dick move? Worker rushing while having an intentionally low MMR so you play against people who play their very first games of Starcraft is absolutely a dick move. It's like going to a primary school football game as a 150kg guy, slamming some kid to the ground and saying "haha that's part of the game". And than making a blog about that. And doing it 3000 times.
If he did that, he would be a dick. This is a game. He's not necessarily playing against kids, who can't emotionally handle losing a game of starcraft, even if it is their very first game. Which it probably isn't.
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And it's gone from the spotlight!
Impressive TL moderating as usual, one of the greatest signs of that being the ability to recognize a mistake.
And to the OP:
Worker rush in bronze if you have to, it's ok. But please realise that you are doing this at the very entrance to the sc2 community. Try to be a bit nice and welcoming. You can act as a guide for the n00bz entering the wonderful world of sc2. If you find that you need a cause to kill the boredom of grinding worker rushes, then take on the cause to guide all the beginners to GSL, to day[9] to teamliquid. In this way, you can be proud of your portrait in a completely different way. It can be a sign of "I was the catalyst for hundreds of people entering the sc2 community. I gave GSL 50 new subscribers."
Good luck, have fun.
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Some commenters here taking this a little too serious it's just meant to be a bit of fun. I personally was quite entertained.
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On November 03 2011 00:23 Cascade wrote:And it's gone from the spotlight! Impressive TL moderating as usual, one of the greatest signs of that being the ability to recognize a mistake. And to the OP: Worker rush in bronze if you have to, it's ok. But please realise that you are doing this at the very entrance to the sc2 community. Try to be a bit nice and welcoming. You can act as a guide for the n00bz entering the wonderful world of sc2. If you find that you need a cause to kill the boredom of grinding worker rushes, then take on the cause to guide all the beginners to GSL, to day[9] to teamliquid. In this way, you can be proud of your portrait in a completely different way. It can be a sign of "I was the catalyst for hundreds of people entering the sc2 community. I gave GSL 50 new subscribers." Good luck, have fun.
Gloating makes you a beautiful person.
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On November 03 2011 00:37 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 00:23 Cascade wrote:And it's gone from the spotlight! Impressive TL moderating as usual, one of the greatest signs of that being the ability to recognize a mistake. And to the OP: Worker rush in bronze if you have to, it's ok. But please realise that you are doing this at the very entrance to the sc2 community. Try to be a bit nice and welcoming. You can act as a guide for the n00bz entering the wonderful world of sc2. If you find that you need a cause to kill the boredom of grinding worker rushes, then take on the cause to guide all the beginners to GSL, to day[9] to teamliquid. In this way, you can be proud of your portrait in a completely different way. It can be a sign of "I was the catalyst for hundreds of people entering the sc2 community. I gave GSL 50 new subscribers." Good luck, have fun. Gloating makes you a beautiful person.
Sorry, I'll try to be more like the OP.
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On November 02 2011 23:50 Pholon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 23:25 psychopat wrote:
I have a bronzie friend that's horrible and every week or so, she needs someone to go play some games on her account to get the MMR back up to a point where she's not constantly facing worker rushers... so she can actually have some fun. This seems super counter-intuitive. Why not teach her how to play? And does she want to have fun or to win? :/
You do teach, but progress is a gradual thing. It's the same as if I had a GM giving me lessons; I wouldn't immediately go up a league because I've got some bad habits to overcome and I need to train myself to do some things better (like glancing at the minimap more often or tapping through my stuff to see what's almost done being built). She can fight it off sometimes now but still loses to it more often than not. That in itself is a huge improvement considering her APM is probably somewhere in the 15-30 range.
Having fun is obviously the important thing. Heck, it's pretty much the only thing unless you're trying to make a living off of the game. Losing to a worker rush is probably the least fun thing in the game. Winning against it isn't much better; it just feels like a giant waste of time. Kind of the same as losing to or fighting off a cannon rush or something equally stupid, but the feeling is even more pronounced because you didn't even get to play as much.
She's still at the stage where she's content building up her 1 base campaign-style and then moving out eventually. She likes to try out units and figure out what's good against what and so forth. I've seen her have slugfests with other (real) bronzies that were "epic" games in their own right with swings of momentum and such. Those are the ones where she's raving about how awesome the game was and queuing up to play again. Constantly getting worker rushed takes the opportunity for fun games away. When that happens, all you get is ranting about why some people get off on ruining others' fun, how they don't even want to play the game and how SC2 sucks.
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Quality blog as always Gheed! :D
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I didn't expect a blog like this to have a point. Well played, sir.
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tl scared me for a while.
glad dropping yourself to bronze, worker rushing and writing a self-righteous blog about it doesn't merit a spotlight after all.
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On November 03 2011 00:42 Cascade wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 00:37 Ghanburighan wrote:On November 03 2011 00:23 Cascade wrote:And it's gone from the spotlight! Impressive TL moderating as usual, one of the greatest signs of that being the ability to recognize a mistake. And to the OP: Worker rush in bronze if you have to, it's ok. But please realise that you are doing this at the very entrance to the sc2 community. Try to be a bit nice and welcoming. You can act as a guide for the n00bz entering the wonderful world of sc2. If you find that you need a cause to kill the boredom of grinding worker rushes, then take on the cause to guide all the beginners to GSL, to day[9] to teamliquid. In this way, you can be proud of your portrait in a completely different way. It can be a sign of "I was the catalyst for hundreds of people entering the sc2 community. I gave GSL 50 new subscribers." Good luck, have fun. Gloating makes you a beautiful person. Sorry, I'll try to be more like the OP.
To be honest he is not gloating, he is writing a story about his experiences, journalists do stuff and write their experience afterwards in articles. To be honest, if you are angry about the blogs, you missed the point entirely, in my opinion.
His use of the word faggot actually makes sense within the confines of the text.
As for his supposed intentional bronze level, that is what the worker rushing strategy entails. Losing a lot of games with it. This is not intentional, this is how the ladder works. You don't even know how many games he has lost to get those 300 some games.
I think this is sad that this got de spotlighted, since the whole story has a reflection behind it, this is not mindless "ladder trolling", and it's quite clear and well written.
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dude I love your blogs so much. Crack me up every time ^^
People who are trashing this (and there are a lot of you) clearly don't understand what is actually happening and should read ALL the blog posts from the start.
As many of you have stated "I can't believe TL allows you to post".
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The anti-gay slurs are really getting out of hand on SC2... sad thing to see. I really feel bad for all the homosexuals playing online because seeing that kind of abuse everyday would probably make even the hardiest gay person cringe.
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I enjoyed this alot.
On November 03 2011 00:50 nunez wrote:
tl scared me for a while.
glad dropping yourself to bronze, worker rushing and writing a self-righteous blog about it doesn't merit a spotlight after all.
I don't think it was self righteous. I thought it was true gonzo journalism, not alot of us on TL know much about bronze league. Gheed is here to illuminate the depths of the lowest league.
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Did any of you who are BMing the OP bother to read his previous 3 posts or even the entirety of this one? All of the people who say he's blocking or discouraging newcomers to SC2 is actually more insulting because you're pretty much implying those people don't have half the brain needed to overcome basic problems such as this, and need to be babied until they do.
The whole series is amazing. Please keep writing these!
I especially loved the first part.
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I'm really sad that this got un-spotlighted. That was the only reason I even found out about this series. I think a lot of people missed the point of this blog. Even as a single entry it is already an interesting tale of reformation. It is far from derogatory or offensive or anything else people have mentioned. He made mistakes, he's amending it. This is all in this one entry. If the entire series is read it gives even better context.
Although, I think the second entry would probably be a better target for spotlighting. Or maybe the last entry if there is indeed redemption, as the story seems to foreshadow.
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StarCraft 2 players ARE the nicest community on the Internet, but that is like being valedictorian of summer school.
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This is a great blog, but I have to ask you Gheed...
Aren't you at all worried that when this project is all said and done that you, like an inmate attempting to assimilate back into society, will be left bewildered by this experience and unable to return to a "normal" state of play? I mean, I presume you may know what happens to Morgan Freeman's character in The Shawshank Redemption... just be careful when you go back playing normally is all.
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Aww, it's a shame this got defeatured, I really like this blog.
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Special thanks to whoever removed this from being featured.
Edit: Not sarcasm
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Ok, I've read all three parts now. The two first ones are, like this last one, very well written and funny. I admit I lolled.
And I don't care much for which exact words he use when he BMs.
It however doesn't change the fact the he, and all the other farmers for this portrait, set out to play around 2000 games (1000 wins times 50% winrate) vs beginners giving them games they will absolutely not enjoy. For most starters I guess the first 10 games or so will decide if they like the game or not. (a number I just invented, but it sounds reasonable, right?) 2000 games corresponds to all the games for 200 fresh sc2 players... This guy even decided to BM them in the meanwhile... That really doesn't help to welcome new players and grow the community. I think a lot more people would be playing and watching sc2 if everyone would be nice, or at least not BM, in ladder games. This guy is standing at the entrance to the community and tripping people over as the try to enter, and insult them when they are down.
If you don't care about the sc2 community as a whole, then I understand you standpoint completely, and I agree that it was enjoyable to read. But maybe you can understand my point as well, that from a community perspective, this probably shouldn't be encouraged, no matter how funny or well written.
However, if you say that this is no big deal, and that the newbs just have to learn to defend the worker rushes and get used to the BM, then I feel that you probably dont understand the mindset of many first-time sc2 players. That would be true if the only purpose of new players would be to grow the new code-S winner. Then he would indeed need to learn to defend a worker rush, and get used to the BM. However, if we want to grow also the crowd WATCHING the code-S player, and effectively paying his salary, then we should be more careful when playing around in bronze i think.
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Even ignoring the BM, your screenshots are really awesome. Especially the one about ass bagels. But the dialogue! It's so amazing. This is wonderful!
Honestly, this was really funny. I enjoyed it.
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One of the best blogs i've seen. lmao
Americans seem to enjoy using the word "faggot".
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On November 03 2011 01:28 Cascade wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Ok, I've read all three parts now. The two first ones are, like this last one, very well written and funny. I admit I lolled. And I don't care much for which exact words he use when he BMs. It however doesn't change the fact the he, and all the other farmers for this portrait, set out to play around 2000 games (1000 wins times 50% winrate) vs beginners giving them games they will absolutely not enjoy. For most starters I guess the first 10 games or so will decide if they like the game or not. (a number I just invented, but it sounds reasonable, right?) 2000 games corresponds to all the games for 200 fresh sc2 players... This guy even decided to BM them in the meanwhile... That really doesn't help to welcome new players and grow the community. I think a lot more people would be playing and watching sc2 if everyone would be nice, or at least not BM, in ladder games. This guy is standing at the entrance to the community and tripping people over as the try to enter, and insult them when they are down. If you don't care about the sc2 community as a whole, then I understand you standpoint completely, and I agree that it was enjoyable to read. But maybe you can understand my point as well, that from a community perspective, this probably shouldn't be encouraged, no matter how funny or well written. However, if you say that this is no big deal, and that the newbs just have to learn to defend the worker rushes and get used to the BM, then I feel that you probably dont understand the mindset of many first-time sc2 players. That would be true if the only purpose of new players would be to grow the new code-S winner. Then he would indeed need to learn to defend a worker rush, and get used to the BM. However, if we want to grow also the crowd WATCHING the code-S player, and effectively paying his salary, then we should be more careful when playing around in bronze i think.
SC2 is brutal, theres no easy way to learn. You just have to keep losing until you work out how to adapt. Worker rushing just forces Bronze players to learn.
I don't see how someone worker rushing will suddenly make all new players leave the game. I think it will motivate them to find out how to beat this strategy, then they are well on their way to becoming a SC2 player.
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Wait.
How the hell can you win by worker rushing.. Wouldn't the other guy have more workers?
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On November 03 2011 02:32 JieXian wrote:
Wait.
How the hell can you win by worker rushing.. Wouldn't the other guy have more workers?
That is the irony that transpires from this blog the most, in my opinion.
And if it wasn't succesful that first time, maybe he wouldn't even have tried again. But it worked once, twice then the flame was lit.
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Reading this earlier before I went to class really made my day.
Chase the dream my friend, chase the dream.
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I love that this whole thing has become a weird social experiment. Your writing is great and this whole blog is very compelling! For the record most people I play in Masters are very mannered.
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i think i was one of your victims when I was bronze! for some dumb reason i attacked w my drones when i coulda won if my lings popped in say 20 more seconds since my pool was eventually done morphing! hhahahaha funny stuff man enjoy them Panda marks! lolol
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I was expecting something really bad when i started reading, then it got funny, nice.
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Do you think Jane Goodall ever wanted to throw the feces back at the monkeys? I know I do.
ROFL!!!
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Read this in class earlier. Sure made my class fly by
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It's funny that the OP gets so much shit for being BM while, I imagine, it's mostly his opponents that do the bming. And don't give me that "waste my time" and "unenjoyable games" crap, if we'd all play like our opponents expect us to this game would suck balls. =(
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I didn't think that I would enjoy that as much as I did. Props to you sir.
Edit: The whole worker rush thing is kinda fun - I have done it once in diamond league. I qued up for a game and as it started my friends showed up. Not wanting to just leave, I A moved my workers across the map and won. Don't really know how it worked but it did.
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I smiled a bit. props to you sir
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Lol... thats horrible. 1000random??
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To paraphrase Nietzsche, "If you look into bronze league, bronze league looks into you."
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I don't know why people are so receptive to this. Portrait farming is kind of dumb.
edit: i have read them, thank you. and i still don't :/
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On November 03 2011 06:01 Alejandrisha wrote:
I don't know why people are so receptive to this. Portrait farming is kind of dumb.
Reading the thread and the previous threads will surely provide an answer to your question.
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going to agree with the others saying you're a douche. though it is funny.
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One of the most entertaining reads (all 4 parts) I've had in a while. Both for the entertaining story and the deep introspective commentary to go with it.
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I wuuuve this blog. Makes me wish i had a smurf account real bad like :/
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On November 03 2011 04:13 Pholon wrote:
It's funny that the OP gets so much shit for being BM while, I imagine, it's mostly his opponents that do the bming. And don't give me that "waste my time" and "unenjoyable games" crap, if we'd all play like our opponents expect us to this game would suck balls. =(
Agreed, my friend. I wish people wouldn't be so uptight about it. If anything he's helping the bronzies learn how to defend worker rush. It's not like Blizzard doesn't allow it.
Maybe the losses to worker rush will motivate them to get better and they will defeat the worker rusher eventually; returning the favour
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If anyone is upset at this blog then I am amused by them. All this does is put a face.. well, a monikor I suppose, on the widely perpetrated strategy for portraits.
Whatever I can't care either way. You're teaching newbies the valuable lesson everyone must earn- to get to the next level you have to learn to beat your leagues cheese first.
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My god, I almost cried at how beautifully this is written.
Gheed for life!
Well, except it sucks your name's gheed. That bastard took WAAAAAAAY to much of my gold as I gambled away my lifes D2 earnings.
PLEASE keep us updated as you continue your epic journey!
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Very nice as usual, all 5/5
I was just checking your blog yesterday for an update to the story!
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Really enjoyed reading that. Comical, cynical, yet a little reflective at the same time. Thanks for the effort!
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This makes me want to go back to SC:BW to cheese a ton against random people on b.net . Thanks for the inspiration! Step 1: Join clan. Step 2: Cheese them all. Step 3: get raged at Step 4: Profit.
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Been looking forwards to this since your last blog. Excellent once again. Although:
+ Show Spoiler +
People have said that Starcraft 2 is the nicest gaming community. But down in the bronze league, I'm not seeing it. On progamer's streams, I'm not seeing it. Is there some "Isle of Niceness" between the two extremes? Perhaps, I most definitely saw less BM in gold and platinum than I do in the depths. I continue onward, however, because despite all the flaming and idiocy I still get a big fucking grin on my face when I successfully worker rush despite the nearly impossible odds. Also I want to have panda decals on my buildings.
If you only get called a homophobic slur in 1/4 of games (and in sc2 its more honestly like 1/10th of games at most) then the game compares very favourably to other games. Because shockingly they're worse.
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On November 02 2011 18:25 Gheed wrote:
Players in the bronze league have convinced themselves that they are only in bronze because of some cosmic injustice. They are good players, they couldn't be bronze, right? It's just because of all the cheesers that they lose. If they could play macro games they'd be diamond for sure. It's just that a bronze player has to prepare for even more all-ins than grand masters, because the players in bronze are less predictable. Well, that's at least what they tell themselves. I thought the "forever bronze" meme was just a joke, but apparently it has a basis in reality: these people think they are stuck, the hopeless victims of some affliction that is anybody's fault but their own.
You have captured the mentality of a Bronze player perfectly. It's exactly how I felt a couple months back.
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I don't get it.
How do you win? Do you just pull all your 6 workers + make one more and go straight to someone else's base?
Provided that you can even find him the first time on a 4-players map, by the time you are there he would have at least 2 more workers than you. How do you win?
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On November 07 2011 12:19 Sufficiency wrote:
I don't get it.
How do you win? Do you just pull all your 6 workers + make one more and go straight to someone else's base?
Provided that you can even find him the first time on a 4-players map, by the time you are there he would have at least 2 more workers than you. How do you win?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=272765
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On November 07 2011 12:25 Gheed wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 12:19 Sufficiency wrote:
I don't get it.
How do you win? Do you just pull all your 6 workers + make one more and go straight to someone else's base?
Provided that you can even find him the first time on a 4-players map, by the time you are there he would have at least 2 more workers than you. How do you win? http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=272765
OK This is as I have suspected - winning rate is very low and only works on people who have never played RTS before.
Honestly I don't think this is as good as Human no-hero tower rush on WC3. I can achieve a roughly 45% winrate with that =\.
Or 6pool. I don't think this is as good as 6 pool.
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I wanna read part 4 so badly but it's 5 am for me :< . As always good read I appreciate the effort you put into all of this.
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Amazing. Simply amazing. If you were to write a book in the same fashion that you've written this blog, I'd buy it! Love it.
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On November 03 2011 01:03 Blaec wrote:Unspotlitten I enjoyed this alot. Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 00:50 nunez wrote:
tl scared me for a while.
glad dropping yourself to bronze, worker rushing and writing a self-righteous blog about it doesn't merit a spotlight after all. I don't think it was self righteous. I thought it was true gonzo journalism, not alot of us on TL know much about bronze league. Gheed is here to illuminate the depths of the lowest league.
This even further confirms what I think is the source of interest of this blog: Really, not many of us know much about bronze. I for one have never been in it (this is not saying I'm a good player, given I have been stuck at low diamond/high plat from the very release of SC2), but I find mighty interesting that what should be considered the "place were we all start" is in fact unknown to many middle/high skilled players (which I feel compose the majority of the TL community, watch streams and know something about the pro-scene).
Not being good or bad on itself, I suppose that if we follow what another poster said about "adopting" bronze players, we could actually do some good for the overall popularity of SC2. I don't like the idea to kill my hardly earned MMR, but I will for sure broadcast in some chats my offer until I have 5 pupils. Hell, inspired on the original post, I'll even set some rules:
- I'll play with them at least 2 games per session
- I won't help anyone who insists in complaining about balance
and based on experience, I will see if I need to modify any.
Damn! Thank you OP, I think reading this has given me another way yet to enjoy this game!
Edit: Weird sentence
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At the risk of opening myself up to ridicule I would like to comment as a bronze league player who fell victim to this a couple of months ago. I purchased SC2 in July having never played an RTS before. When I started laddering I was still having trouble getting to 15 OC without fucking my build up. It literally took every ounce of my concentration not to fuck my opening BO up. Seeing an enemy worker in my base was usually enough to screw me up, especially if it was a probe as I was absolutely terrified of getting canon rushed.
When I lost to this I saw one SCV at my base really early, like I had just started my 10 depot. I had a feeling something fishy was going on but still had no idea when I was supposed to scout and figured it was just an early scout. Regardless, I sent a worker out to deal with the scout at which point I saw all his SVC and realized I was being attacked with all his workers. The lone SVC I sent out to deal with the scout died, the SVC making the depot died, and I mismicroed the rest of my workers (I didn't really know about a-move and right clicked on things to attack them) and lost.
I'm not the type of person to give a troll the satisfaction of BM, but I did lift my CC to force him to go make vikings. I figured, if you're going to waste my time I'm going to waste yours. I told a friend about what happened and he mocked me, told me how to stop it from happening, and I moved on and kept laddering. I'm still awful but out of bronze league and have never lost to a worker rush since. However, I feel like while I should find this post funny or accept that fact that it's my fault for being so bad as to actually lose to a worker rush, I think it's still a pretty dick move.
You have people in bronze league who like me are trying very, very hard to learn a game and while things like this are instructive, your overall approach is pretty destructive imo. You were doing this against people who, like me, may not even really know why you would a-move rather than right click, or who maybe have never even had to use their workers to attack something before. I wonder if you actually demoralized anyone enough that they stopped playing SC2? In 1k wins you may have, and I think that's kind of lame.
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On November 08 2011 02:00 Elbows wrote:
At the risk of opening myself up to ridicule I would like to comment as a bronze league player who fell victim to this a couple of months ago. I purchased SC2 in July having never played an RTS before. When I started laddering I was still having trouble getting to 15 OC without fucking my build up. It literally took every ounce of my concentration not to fuck my opening BO up. Seeing an enemy worker in my base was usually enough to screw me up, especially if it was a probe as I was absolutely terrified of getting canon rushed.
When I lost to this I saw one SCV at my base really early, like I had just started my 10 depot. I had a feeling something fishy was going on but still had no idea when I was supposed to scout and figured it was just an early scout. Regardless, I sent a worker out to deal with the scout at which point I saw all his SVC and realized I was being attacked with all his workers. The lone SVC I sent out to deal with the scout died, the SVC making the depot died, and I mismicroed the rest of my workers (I didn't really know about a-move and right clicked on things to attack them) and lost.
I'm not the type of person to give a troll the satisfaction of BM, but I did lift my CC to force him to go make vikings. I figured, if you're going to waste my time I'm going to waste yours. I told a friend about what happened and he mocked me, told me how to stop it from happening, and I moved on and kept laddering. I'm still awful but out of bronze league and have never lost to a worker rush since. However, I feel like while I should find this post funny or accept that fact that it's my fault for being so bad as to actually lose to a worker rush, I think it's still a pretty dick move.
You have people in bronze league who like me are trying very, very hard to learn a game and while things like this are instructive, your overall approach is pretty destructive imo. You were doing this against people who, like me, may not even really know why you would a-move rather than right click, or who maybe have never even had to use their workers to attack something before. I wonder if you actually demoralized anyone enough that they stopped playing SC2? In 1k wins you may have, and I think that's kind of lame.
I see where you're coming from and I sympathise, but realistically, it's no different for a zerg player who loses repeatedly to 6 raxes or a terran getting continuously 4 gated. It's still as annoying as fuck and just something you need to learn to counter.
If we had the concept that people should never do anything that their opponent doesn't see coming then you'd first have to remove all cheese and all-ins, then remove all timing attacks and eventually, and following this logic, any attack at all. You may as well stop playing.
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On November 08 2011 02:07 Subversive wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 02:00 Elbows wrote:
At the risk of opening myself up to ridicule I would like to comment as a bronze league player who fell victim to this a couple of months ago. I purchased SC2 in July having never played an RTS before. When I started laddering I was still having trouble getting to 15 OC without fucking my build up. It literally took every ounce of my concentration not to fuck my opening BO up. Seeing an enemy worker in my base was usually enough to screw me up, especially if it was a probe as I was absolutely terrified of getting canon rushed.
When I lost to this I saw one SCV at my base really early, like I had just started my 10 depot. I had a feeling something fishy was going on but still had no idea when I was supposed to scout and figured it was just an early scout. Regardless, I sent a worker out to deal with the scout at which point I saw all his SVC and realized I was being attacked with all his workers. The lone SVC I sent out to deal with the scout died, the SVC making the depot died, and I mismicroed the rest of my workers (I didn't really know about a-move and right clicked on things to attack them) and lost.
I'm not the type of person to give a troll the satisfaction of BM, but I did lift my CC to force him to go make vikings. I figured, if you're going to waste my time I'm going to waste yours. I told a friend about what happened and he mocked me, told me how to stop it from happening, and I moved on and kept laddering. I'm still awful but out of bronze league and have never lost to a worker rush since. However, I feel like while I should find this post funny or accept that fact that it's my fault for being so bad as to actually lose to a worker rush, I think it's still a pretty dick move.
You have people in bronze league who like me are trying very, very hard to learn a game and while things like this are instructive, your overall approach is pretty destructive imo. You were doing this against people who, like me, may not even really know why you would a-move rather than right click, or who maybe have never even had to use their workers to attack something before. I wonder if you actually demoralized anyone enough that they stopped playing SC2? In 1k wins you may have, and I think that's kind of lame. I see where you're coming from and I sympathise, but realistically, it's no different for a zerg player who loses repeatedly to 6 raxes or a terran getting continuously 4 gated. It's still as annoying as fuck and just something you need to learn to counter. If we had the concept that people should never do anything that their opponent doesn't see coming then you'd first have to remove all cheese and all-ins, then remove all timing attacks and eventually, and following this logic, any attack at all. You may as well stop playing.
If I lose to someone cheesing or doing something silly like this because it's something they want to try and they're actually a bronze level player, that's fine. I think my problem is with a diamond/plat level player doing this hundreds of times specifically to fuck with people who suck at the game for lulz. Funny, I get it, but still dick.
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I'm in masters.
I"ve never held off a worker rush.
*cry*
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On November 08 2011 02:14 Elbows wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 02:07 Subversive wrote:On November 08 2011 02:00 Elbows wrote:
At the risk of opening myself up to ridicule I would like to comment as a bronze league player who fell victim to this a couple of months ago. I purchased SC2 in July having never played an RTS before. When I started laddering I was still having trouble getting to 15 OC without fucking my build up. It literally took every ounce of my concentration not to fuck my opening BO up. Seeing an enemy worker in my base was usually enough to screw me up, especially if it was a probe as I was absolutely terrified of getting canon rushed.
When I lost to this I saw one SCV at my base really early, like I had just started my 10 depot. I had a feeling something fishy was going on but still had no idea when I was supposed to scout and figured it was just an early scout. Regardless, I sent a worker out to deal with the scout at which point I saw all his SVC and realized I was being attacked with all his workers. The lone SVC I sent out to deal with the scout died, the SVC making the depot died, and I mismicroed the rest of my workers (I didn't really know about a-move and right clicked on things to attack them) and lost.
I'm not the type of person to give a troll the satisfaction of BM, but I did lift my CC to force him to go make vikings. I figured, if you're going to waste my time I'm going to waste yours. I told a friend about what happened and he mocked me, told me how to stop it from happening, and I moved on and kept laddering. I'm still awful but out of bronze league and have never lost to a worker rush since. However, I feel like while I should find this post funny or accept that fact that it's my fault for being so bad as to actually lose to a worker rush, I think it's still a pretty dick move.
You have people in bronze league who like me are trying very, very hard to learn a game and while things like this are instructive, your overall approach is pretty destructive imo. You were doing this against people who, like me, may not even really know why you would a-move rather than right click, or who maybe have never even had to use their workers to attack something before. I wonder if you actually demoralized anyone enough that they stopped playing SC2? In 1k wins you may have, and I think that's kind of lame. I see where you're coming from and I sympathise, but realistically, it's no different for a zerg player who loses repeatedly to 6 raxes or a terran getting continuously 4 gated. It's still as annoying as fuck and just something you need to learn to counter. If we had the concept that people should never do anything that their opponent doesn't see coming then you'd first have to remove all cheese and all-ins, then remove all timing attacks and eventually, and following this logic, any attack at all. You may as well stop playing. If I lose to someone cheesing or doing something silly like this because it's something they want to try and they're actually a bronze level player, that's fine. I think my problem is with a diamond/plat level player doing this hundreds of times specifically to fuck with people who suck at the game for lulz. Funny, I get it, but still dick.
Yeah that's reasonable. Any type of smurphing is pretty irritating. On the other hand, and to be fair, he is literally taking the worst strategy, rather than something viable. I can see why it might irritate though.
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On November 08 2011 22:57 Subversive wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 02:14 Elbows wrote:On November 08 2011 02:07 Subversive wrote:On November 08 2011 02:00 Elbows wrote:
At the risk of opening myself up to ridicule I would like to comment as a bronze league player who fell victim to this a couple of months ago. I purchased SC2 in July having never played an RTS before. When I started laddering I was still having trouble getting to 15 OC without fucking my build up. It literally took every ounce of my concentration not to fuck my opening BO up. Seeing an enemy worker in my base was usually enough to screw me up, especially if it was a probe as I was absolutely terrified of getting canon rushed.
When I lost to this I saw one SCV at my base really early, like I had just started my 10 depot. I had a feeling something fishy was going on but still had no idea when I was supposed to scout and figured it was just an early scout. Regardless, I sent a worker out to deal with the scout at which point I saw all his SVC and realized I was being attacked with all his workers. The lone SVC I sent out to deal with the scout died, the SVC making the depot died, and I mismicroed the rest of my workers (I didn't really know about a-move and right clicked on things to attack them) and lost.
I'm not the type of person to give a troll the satisfaction of BM, but I did lift my CC to force him to go make vikings. I figured, if you're going to waste my time I'm going to waste yours. I told a friend about what happened and he mocked me, told me how to stop it from happening, and I moved on and kept laddering. I'm still awful but out of bronze league and have never lost to a worker rush since. However, I feel like while I should find this post funny or accept that fact that it's my fault for being so bad as to actually lose to a worker rush, I think it's still a pretty dick move.
You have people in bronze league who like me are trying very, very hard to learn a game and while things like this are instructive, your overall approach is pretty destructive imo. You were doing this against people who, like me, may not even really know why you would a-move rather than right click, or who maybe have never even had to use their workers to attack something before. I wonder if you actually demoralized anyone enough that they stopped playing SC2? In 1k wins you may have, and I think that's kind of lame. I see where you're coming from and I sympathise, but realistically, it's no different for a zerg player who loses repeatedly to 6 raxes or a terran getting continuously 4 gated. It's still as annoying as fuck and just something you need to learn to counter. If we had the concept that people should never do anything that their opponent doesn't see coming then you'd first have to remove all cheese and all-ins, then remove all timing attacks and eventually, and following this logic, any attack at all. You may as well stop playing. If I lose to someone cheesing or doing something silly like this because it's something they want to try and they're actually a bronze level player, that's fine. I think my problem is with a diamond/plat level player doing this hundreds of times specifically to fuck with people who suck at the game for lulz. Funny, I get it, but still dick. Yeah that's reasonable. Any type of smurphing is pretty irritating. On the other hand, and to be fair, he is literally taking the worst strategy, rather than something viable. I can see why it might irritate though.
It has been well documented that the slightest intelligent strategy could bring you to masters. The beauty of this blog is that it's quite objectively the worst possible strategy.
PS : I did that with a friend in 2v2 a long time ago... Brought us to Gold in 20 games or so...
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Astonishingly great write-up. I will be reading Part 4 tomorrow for sure as soon as I have the time at hand
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"You should not use your own rank as an insult" --rofl. I'd probably rage quite a bit losing like that, but this is still comedy gold.
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If you got the Blizzcon ticket, you get a panda paw decal w/o having to play 3000 games in bronze! :D :D :D
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